^ Honestly, that's just impressive marketing.

I like that Mystic Triangle band. The world needed a new fake NWOBHM band.

I like that Mystic Triangle band. The world needed a new fake NWOBHM band.

 

Okay, how many of us knew what that means without Googling?

Here is a snap of my uncle last weekend...yes this is the shirt he wore to the Rolling Stones concert at OSU.  Hipster?

Does Tommy Hilfiger really count as fashion? But what do I know, since Gigi Hadid became the new "designer" for that label. No, that's not her in the picture! Just the jacket.

These last couple summers, maxiskirts finally made a summertime casual comeback among under 40 women, after repeated attempts by the fashion industry to encourage longer skirts (and hence wardrobe replacement).

 

So I guess my miniskirt analogy about the non-omnipotence of marketing no longer holds, though it did take 30 plus years.

Does Tommy Hilfiger really count as fashion? But what do I know, since Gigi Hadid became the new "designer" for that label. No, that's not her in the picture! Just the jacket.

 

Growing up in the inner city and being a teen going into the new millennium, I wore a lot of Tommy Hilfiger clothes and so did a lot of my classmates. I'm not sure if he reached all facets of society - it seems like he tried to appeal to the collegiate crowd a little later and failed in that department but he seemed to be really attuned to trends in what people were actually wearing on the street and designed accordingly and for a while managed to establish a close relationship with the hip hop community... at least until the rumors spread.

 

It's interesting how such a successful brand can be be destroyed by rumors that are founded on absolutely nothing. If you haven't been living under a rock, you've probably heard that he's racist and made statements about how he wished that minorities didn't wear his clothes (or some variation of that.) If you think about it, he was popular when the internet first blew up and it was easy to spread rumors without "debunkers" like Snopes.com also reaching out to people and it being as easy as it is now to trace where/how rumors got started online. Back then it seemed like when rumors were spread enough, they were basically accepted as true.

 

It's also interesting that his demise came at the same time that P.Diddy, Russell Simmons, Jay-Z, etc. all became hugely successful with their hip hop clothing brands.

 

I always liked Tommy Hilfiger. He has a cool logo, his quintessential colors and styles are still sort of unique yet classic-looking and I remember the clothes being fairly good quality.

 

 

It's also interesting that his demise came at the same time that P.Diddy, Russell Simmons, Jay-Z, etc. all became hugely successful with their hip hop clothing brands.

 

 

I don't trust those three. Add in Kanye and Beyonce. Jay-Z, Beyonce and Kanye don't want ANYONE else to be important in music. Simmons shills usury. P.Diddy ruined mainstream hip-hop for years by making it only about clothing and money. It turned into hair metal, and not the good ones like Ratt or Def Leppard. Poison instead.

 

 

It's also interesting that his demise came at the same time that P.Diddy, Russell Simmons, Jay-Z, etc. all became hugely successful with their hip hop clothing brands.

 

 

I don't trust those three. Add in Kanye and Beyonce. Jay-Z, Beyonce and Kanye don't want ANYONE else to be important in music. Simmons shills usury. P.Diddy ruined mainstream hip-hop for years by making it only about clothing and money. It turned into hair metal, and not the good ones like Ratt or Def Leppard. Poison instead.

 

I watched about 10 minutes of Kanye's recent fashion shows. What a joke.  Plus, the album he put out earlier this year is unlistenable.  He's a complete idiot.  His music and clothes and acting and art would get laughed out of a sophomore-level college class. 

 

GCrites80s[/member] : It's a conspiracy, dude. Diddy, Simmons and Jay-Z were all at the secret Black Crusaders Millennium/Y2k Party sipping Dom. P and strategically planning the demise of Tommy Hilfiger so they could take over the Hip Hop fashion industry more effectively, lol!

 

Obviously I'm joking and it makes sense that successful rappers who can relate to the culture more, would win out over Tommy Hilfiger and Ralph Lauren but you know what, I still never understood how P.Diddy, Jay-Z, Russell Simmons and some other well-known rappers all of a sudden became worth over a couple hundred million dollars at that time (and manage to grow their wealth.) Master P's success just completely alludes me. None of them seemed to produce anything of much value other than music and early success with clothing, let alone being involved in anything sustainable for long-term growth lol! It's no wonder people think they sold their souls to illuminati. They invest in fads and products so reliant on fly-by-night brand recognition and status, it seems like most of them would have gone bankrupt by now. Yeah, no doubt they were influential and successful early on but those clothing brands can't have anywhere near the sales that they used to. It seems to me that they would all be losing money on it at this point and considering the other types of business ventures they would get into (P.Diddy hustling Ciroc- which in my stints as a bartender I've absolutely never had anyone request and his Deleon Tequila that no one has ever heard of and is going up against Patron) it just seems extremely risky and I'm just wondering how the hell most of them pulled it off. I don't think those clothing brands have anywhere near the status they once did. At some point, you start losing your ss[/member] if you don't have a well-timed exit strategy. Dr. Dre, I understand. I think he's technically a billionaire now but for most of his life his investments were in his own music talent and talent he discovered and he would command half a million dollars per beat (since the song would go on to be a guaranteed hit.) Anything outside of that was probably a sound and diverse portfolio. He ventured out by investing in Beats headphones which was obviously really smart - the best record producer attaching his name and reputation to a well-marketed, premium audio brand that Apple aquired and cashed him out at $450 million on.

 

Maybe all of these guys like Diddy, Jay-Z, Master P, Cash Money's Birdman and Slim did just make really smart long-term investments or a bunch of short term investments well-handled, early on but if they did, I don't think I've ever heard of anything note-worthy. Mostly when you hear about how successful they are, you just hear about how much money they except for recent ventures which are obtainable for anyone who already has at least half of a billion dollars.

 

 

"I watched about 10 minutes of Kanye's recent fashion shows. What a joke.  Plus, the album he put out earlier this year is unlistenable.  He's a complete idiot.  His music and clothes and acting and art would get laughed out of a sophomore-level college class.  "

 

jmecklenborg[/member]: I agree. I liked his first album but that was about it. I think he's horrible at rapping. He makes pretty good beats but his lyrics and flow are aweful. I actually saw a clip of him singing Bohemian Rhapsody and I just felt so embarrassed for him, listening to it.

 

 

GCrites80s[/member] : It's a conspiracy, dude. Diddy, Simmons and Jay-Z were all at the secret Black Crusaders Millennium/Y2k Party sipping Dom. P and strategically planning the demise of Tommy Hilfiger so they could take over the Hip Hop fashion industry more effectively, lol!

 

Obviously I'm joking and it makes sense that successful rappers who can relate to the culture more, would win out over Tommy Hilfiger and Ralph Lauren but you know what, I still never understood how P.Diddy, Jay-Z, Russell Simmons and some other well-known rappers all of a sudden became worth over a couple hundred million dollars at that time (and manage to grow their wealth.) Master P's success just completely alludes me. None of them seemed to produce anything of much value other than music and early success with clothing, let alone being involved in anything sustainable for long-term growth lol! It's no wonder people think they sold their souls to illuminati. They invest in fads and products so reliant on fly-by-night brand recognition and status, it seems like most of them would have gone bankrupt by now. Yeah, no doubt they were influential and successful early on but those clothing brands can't have anywhere near the sales that they used to. It seems to me that they would all be losing money on it at this point and considering the other types of business ventures they would get into (P.Diddy hustling Ciroc- which in my stints as a bartender I've absolutely never had anyone request and his Deleon Tequila that no one has ever heard of and is going up against Patron) it just seems extremely risky and I'm just wondering how the hell most of them pulled it off. I don't think those clothing brands have anywhere near the status they once did. At some point, you start losing your ss[/member] if you don't have a well-timed exit strategy. Dr. Dre, I understand. I think he's technically a billionaire now but for most of his life his investments were in his own music talent and talent he discovered and he would command half a million dollars per beat (since the song would go on to be a guaranteed hit.) Anything outside of that was probably a sound and diverse portfolio. He ventured out by investing in Beats headphones which was obviously really smart - the best record producer attaching his name and reputation to a well-marketed, premium audio brand that Apple aquired and cashed him out at $450 million on.

 

Maybe all of these guys like Diddy, Jay-Z, Master P, Cash Money's Birdman and Slim did just make really smart long-term investments or a bunch of short term investments well-handled, early on but if they did, I don't think I've ever heard of anything note-worthy. Mostly when you hear about how successful they are, you just hear about how much money they except for recent ventures which are obtainable for anyone who already has at least half of a billion dollars.

 

 

"I watched about 10 minutes of Kanye's recent fashion shows. What a joke.  Plus, the album he put out earlier this year is unlistenable.  He's a complete idiot.  His music and clothes and acting and art would get laughed out of a sophomore-level college class.  "

 

jmecklenborg[/member]: I agree. I liked his first album but that was about it. I think he's horrible at rapping. He makes pretty good beats but his lyrics and flow are aweful. I actually saw a clip of him singing Bohemian Rhapsody and I just felt so embarrassed for him, listening to it.

 

We sell a decent amount of Ciroc.

 

Other than "All Of The Lights", I've never heard a Kanye song I like and there are plenty by Diddy/Jay-Z/Master P/BT&H that I love.

 

These days our jukebox ends up playing a lot of Drake (boring) and even "Future", who is horrible.

Seems like people rarely directly order a lot of the liquors I see at bars. I figure a lot of them are used for well drinks.

 

 

It's also interesting that his demise came at the same time that P.Diddy, Russell Simmons, Jay-Z, etc. all became hugely successful with their hip hop clothing brands.

 

 

I don't trust those three. Add in Kanye and Beyonce. Jay-Z, Beyonce and Kanye don't want ANYONE else to be important in music. Simmons shills usury. P.Diddy ruined mainstream hip-hop for years by making it only about clothing and money. It turned into hair metal, and not the good ones like Ratt or Def Leppard. Poison instead.

 

I watched about 10 minutes of Kanye's recent fashion shows. What a joke.  Plus, the album he put out earlier this year is unlistenable.  He's a complete idiot.  His music and clothes and acting and art would get laughed out of a sophomore-level college class. 

 

 

Considering the sales and free marketing, not to mention the social discussion.  Do you really think he is an "idiot"?

HE'S BACK!!!! ;)

Considering the sales and free marketing, not to mention the social discussion.  Do you really think he is an "idiot"?

 

Well he's definitely not a serious artist.  He is a self-promoter (A MAN OF ACTION!!) who dabbles in music, fashion, and other realms.  Mile-wide and inch-deep. He's sort-of the Donald Trump of black culture. 

 

Considering the sales and free marketing, not to mention the social discussion.  Do you really think he is an "idiot"?

 

Well he's definitely not a serious artist.  He is a self-promoter (A MAN OF ACTION!!) who dabbles in music, fashion, and other realms.  Mile-wide and inch-deep. He's sort-of the Donald Trump of black culture. 

 

 

Sweetie, don't insult black culture with statements like that!

Seems like people rarely directly order a lot of the liquors I see at bars. I figure a lot of them are used for well drinks.

 

Not for long.

H&M accused of creating fake heavy metal bands with fake histories to launch heavy metal clothing line:

http://www.metalinjection.net/fashion/did-hm-create-fake-underground-metal-bands-with-nazi-imagery-to-push-its-new-clothing-line

 

Do you guys remember years ago when the Indy fanboys tried to make it seem like Indy was so much more progressive when they opened an H&M before Cincy? I don't know why that came to mind when I was reading through this topic, but it did.

Kanye West allegedly fires entire staff following Yeezy 4 fashion show:

http://pagesix.com/2016/10/04/kanye-had-meltdown-fired-entire-staff-after-fashion-show-disaster/

Kanye West allegedly fires entire staff following Yeezy 4 fashion show:

http://pagesix.com/2016/10/04/kanye-had-meltdown-fired-entire-staff-after-fashion-show-disaster/

 

What a douche bag.

One week with a fedora:

http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/i-bought-a-fedora-to-see-if-it-would-ruin-my-life?utm_source=dmfb

One week with a fedora:

http://www.vice.com/en_au/read/i-bought-a-fedora-to-see-if-it-would-ruin-my-life?utm_source=dmfb

 

That was actually fun to read!

Sagging is back:

It never left.

not only did it never leave, it never wasn't. as long as there has been a rikers that is.

^^ Probably the worst trend I ever was a part of. :-/

Good Grief.  I forgot about this video until just now.  190 million hits! 

 

Everything going on here is totally and completely wrong. 

Well, the rug ain't bad.

Like Steven Tyler stole Rob Zombies hair and Slash's hat.

Like Steven Tyler stole Rob Zombies hair and Slash's hat.

 

But the whole thing looks suspiciously Canadian. 

^ Jake - I hear they prefer to be called American Juniors instead of Canadian

Her mouth is huge.

Anybody else here say "Fashion Po-lice" like "Karma Police" when they see this thread?

She's going to be President one day.  And she'll be Baberaham Lincoln:

Now, all celebrities are failures if they don't become president.

 

On Mickey Mouse, class of 1928:

 

Disney's copyright for Mickey expires in 2023, unless the copyright law is changed by Congress.

http://artlawjournal.com/mickey-mouse-keeps-changing-copyright-law/

Copyright law will always be extended to keep Disney happy.

Which is doubly ironic considering how they have made a fortune on adapting fairy tales and other existing stories that don't have copyright protection.

Which is doubly ironic considering how they have made a fortune on adapting fairy tales and other existing stories that don't have copyright protection.

 

That's the American way, bro!

 

 

She's going to be President one day.  And she'll be Baberaham Lincoln:

 

Hey why not?  Bluto was.

 

 

last night Harper's Bazaar celebrated its 150th anniversary by projecting hundreds of images from the magazine onto the Empire State Building. Here are a few. Don't models have oversize egos already?? :-P lol

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

^ Who doesn't love that building??

Aliens.  Always aliens.

 

It's a cool effect, but definitely one that I could picture being abused with blatant advertising.

Reminds me a bit of this:

 

I think it'd be cool to show a shot from inside the empire looking out at the projector. That's one hell of a light bulb.

Nordstrom has lit the internet on fire with another expensive product that many are calling ridiculous.

 

On its website, the department store is selling a $425 pair of jeans that is covered in fake mud.

The Barracuda Straight Leg Jeans feature obvious splashes of what Nordstrom calls "caked-on muddy coating," giving the effect of being worn on a day in the dirt.

 

In its description for the pants, the company says they "embody rugged, Americana workwear that's seen some hard-working action" and that, when worn, they show "you're not afraid to get down and dirty."

 

When he discovered the product this week, "Dirty Jobs" host Mike Rowe posted about them on his website, saying the Nordstrom jeans were proof of "our country's war on work."

 

http://www.wkbw.com/news/national/nordstrom-sells-jeans-with-fake-mud-on-them-for-425

 

 

Hey, if you guys are interested, I have a bunch of pre-mud stained jeans and even some covered in paint that I can sell you. 33x32 boot cut and straight-leg. I'll only charge you $350 (with free shipping!) If you want to get "down and dirty" PM me.

the pants are stupid but Mike Rowe's take on things is equally stupid