June 24, 201410 yr Does anyone do any of these subscription services? Do they send everyone in America the exact same clothes every month? That means you'll be wearing the clothes every other person is wearing. Unless you're in the middle of America anything they have you can get as Bloomingdales.
August 10, 201410 yr Is this normcore? Photo taken from this story: http://www.cincinnati.com/story/opinion/contributors/2014/08/09/feeney-hero-doesnt-roll-over/13824207/
August 11, 201410 yr Normcore is even harder to define than hipster fashion. I think it requires a bit of grunge and an active attempt to look normal. You can accidentally look like a hipster, for instance if you’re an actual lumberjack. You can’t accidentally be normcore, because then you’re just normal. One’s active participation is required to be normcore. You have to be aware of fashion trends, and actively avoid them at all costs. If you avoid fashion trends because you and all your friends get your clothes at Meijer, you can’t be normcore.
August 30, 201410 yr Suddenly all of the UC party girls are wearing these late 90s black halter top thingies. These things were popular for like 3 months back in 1989: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JugUQJv9YlY Overall high school and college-aged fashion in 2014 seems to center around a revival of dumb cheap stuff from 1988-1991.
September 1, 201410 yr I don't think normcore has goatees. Technically that's a Van Dyke, which is what most Americans call a goatee. A Goatee (at least the traditional way as far as I understand) is just the bottom without the mustache. I still rock a very short-trimmed goatee, and it has never hurt me, but I usually have a two or three-day LA shadow going too. I tried doing the all over shadow beard, but it was just way too much damn work with the lines. I refuse to grow a full, unkept, untrimmed beard which is the mainstream San Francisco-Oakland white style. This is a good thing since my lack of the big beard directly communicates who my friends are and who I date. It effectively shuts out 75% of SF/Oak white people. I don't have any white friends in Oakland, and only a handful in Berkeley. Almost all of my white friends are in SF (mostly north side), LA, and NY.
September 1, 201410 yr I'm more certain than ever that at some point the NY hipsters will discover Steelers tailgaters, and make that a look/movement. I can envision literally thousands of people in Pittsburgh gear who have never actually been there. Sounds like Columbus post-2000 or so. I never knew any Steelers fans growing up, but now... Actually, Steelers clothes are sold in the Bay Area. My local Target has it right next to Giants and Athletics clothing. The Steelers jumped the shark a long time ago. It's already a dying hipster trend around here. I now question if any of that hipster fashion started in New York. I'm reading articles from the early to mid-90's on Mission District gentrification with the word hipster in it. It has been a term in the Bay Area for at least two decades. None of these people ever went to a Steelers game or could probably name a single player (except maybe "that rapey dude from Ohio"). I'm not a Steelers fan, but I respect Pittsburgh, and didn't want it to become a hipster fashion statement. Keep in mind the wealthy have long fetishized blue collar style. Thank God they haven't discovered Detroit Tigers and Toledo Mud Hens style yet. I'm usually one of the few people wearing that Tigers hat...and many times it's a conversation starter. I've also worn a Mud Hens hat around, which has been a great conversation starter too. The Steelers for some reason became the big Rust Belt target...
September 2, 201410 yr I'm usually one of the few people wearing that Tigers hat... Well, you and Thomas Magnum. You should bring back the nut huggers to go with it.
September 24, 201410 yr Is a flip phone norm-core? http://time.com/3318573/flip-phones-millennials-iphone6/ For the record I do have a flip phone because I get it for free from work. In fact I forgot to turn off the ringer tonight and I got a call while sitting in the front row at a talk given by the pop culture writer Chuck Klosterman. So I treated the room to a circa-2004 cell phone distraction, with its cheesy ring!
September 24, 201410 yr Is a flip phone norm-core? http://time.com/3318573/flip-phones-millennials-iphone6/ For the record I do have a flip phone because I get it for free from work. In fact I forgot to turn off the ringer tonight and I got a call while sitting in the front row at a talk given by the pop culture writer Chuck Klosterman. So I treated the room to a circa-2004 cell phone distraction, with its cheesy ring!
September 24, 201410 yr if norm-core is trying to appear normal and fit in then wouldn't a flip phone be hipster?
September 24, 201410 yr A norm-core phone would be something like a first generation iPhone or a Samsung that’s about 4 years old. It should probably be a bit scratched up, and maybe even have a cracked screen. It should also have a ring tone that just sounds like a phone ring. I’m afraid that flip phones are completely hipster at this point, as are 90’s midi ringtones. They aren’t quite to the level of old Nokia bricks, but they’re close.
September 24, 201410 yr I don't know. I still have my Razr flip and every once in a while i take it out and wish I was still using it. The reality is I need a smartphone for all of the computer capabilities, but for just making / receiving calls you couldn't beat that Razr. I'm half tempted to just get a company phone for email and carry my Razr for calls (which also let's me keep my number vs. transferring ownership to my employer. )
September 24, 201410 yr Is a flip phone norm-core? http://time.com/3318573/flip-phones-millennials-iphone6/ For the record I do have a flip phone because I get it for free from work. In fact I forgot to turn off the ringer tonight and I got a call while sitting in the front row at a talk given by the pop culture writer Chuck Klosterman. So I treated the room to a circa-2004 cell phone distraction, with its cheesy ring! What was this talk about? Dio?
September 25, 201410 yr Is a flip phone norm-core? http://time.com/3318573/flip-phones-millennials-iphone6/ For the record I do have a flip phone because I get it for free from work. In fact I forgot to turn off the ringer tonight and I got a call while sitting in the front row at a talk given by the pop culture writer Chuck Klosterman. So I treated the room to a circa-2004 cell phone distraction, with its cheesy ring! What was this talk about? Dio? First of all, that article in The Onion was absolutely hilarious. It was some anonymous writer out-Klostermaning Klosterman. A guy actually asked him if he had seen that article. Klosterman comes back with "hey so you don't think I had about 1,000 people email me that link that day?". Then he became visibly upset because he knows The Onion stung him and stung him good! But overall he's a great talker. I could tell that the older crowd was completely baffled but if you're under 45 you should be fine. If you're under 25 you might have trouble. What I didn't realize is that he's now known by more people now for his sports writing than his rock and film criticism. So there were two distinct group of fans in the lecture hall, each with almost no knowledge of the other. Kind of like Hank the III.
September 25, 201410 yr I've read all his books and lots of articles and would certainly like to attend a talk. By now he can't be cheap either; 10-20K at least. I remember he put his personal phone number in one of his early books and told people to call him if they wanted to talk about KISS, though he was probably up for other conversations including ones about Midwestern mid-major college basketball. But what was the initial topic?
September 25, 201410 yr I've read all his books and lots of articles and would certainly like to attend a talk. By now he can't be cheap either; 10-20K at least. I remember he put his personal phone number in one of his early books and told people to call him if they wanted to talk about KISS, though he was probably up for other conversations including ones about Midwestern mid-major college basketball. But what was the initial topic? He told us he's typically paid $8,000 to speak. He actually didn't bring up KISS at all, which of course was surprising, although he did repeatedly tough on Motley Crue. But mostly he was vaguely promoting his new book on villains and talking about mediated vs. real experience. On that note I thought to ask him if he has any opinions about Google Street View, but he was too distracted with answering one question after another about some article he wrote on the Cleveland Browns draft process.
September 25, 201410 yr Oh I can totally see the Browns question causing a stir. That whole article was about how the Browns didn't tell him anything: http://grantland.com/features/chuck-klosterman-draft-day-cleveland/
November 14, 201410 yr This music video is from 1999 so 15 years ago...does this look more than minimally dated? Sure, the white frosted hair on that drummer is pretty funny, but otherwise I feel like a lot of people still look like this: Subtract 15 years from 1999 and you get 1984:
November 14, 201410 yr This music video is from 1999 so 15 years ago...does this look more than minimally dated? Sure, the white frosted hair on that drummer is pretty funny, but otherwise I feel like a lot of people still look like this: Subtract 15 years from 1999 and you get 1984: That Semisonic song has become a classic since DJs often play it after 2am. I could be wrong, but while 80s fashion could be as "dated" as any other era (I used to wear club clothes and drive the Firebird while at Case, basically to mess with stereotypes), it was less common to look "dated" than it was in the 70s. Many pics from then could be from now except for female hairstyles, quality, and of course the phones. That trend seems to have increased over time.
November 14, 201410 yr I could be wrong, but while 80s fashion could be as "dated" as any other era (I used to wear club clothes and drive the Firebird while at Case, basically to mess with stereotypes), it was less common to look "dated" than it was in the 70s. Many pics from then could be from now except for female hairstyles, quality, and of course the phones. That trend seems to have increased over time.[/color] Yes, you're wrong. When has it ever been "common" to look dated? Please show an example of a pic from then that could be from now? SMDH!
November 14, 201410 yr I could be wrong, but while 80s fashion could be as "dated" as any other era (I used to wear club clothes and drive the Firebird while at Case, basically to mess with stereotypes), it was less common to look "dated" than it was in the 70s. Many pics from then could be from now except for female hairstyles, quality, and of course the phones. That trend seems to have increased over time.[/color] Yes, you're wrong. When has it ever been "common" to look dated? Please show an example of a pic from then that could be from now? SMDH! *Less* common. To look "current". During the 80s, normal jeans, golf shirts, that sort of thing were the commonplace. The plaids, bell bottoms, etc were common in the 70s. IIRC
November 14, 201410 yr Those greened-out videos are very 1999. I hated it. I believe but I'm not sure that that technique was a modification of tungsten film. My point is that fashion seems to have changed much less in the past 15 years than in the 15 years before that. It is funny watching that video from 1999 and seeing a pay phone and an answering machine at the beginning...and the way the guy scrawls a note. In college we had a poster next to our phone which became covered in phone numbers and messages...my brother got the poster eventually, and some girl at a party at his house wrote her number on the poster and they ended up going out for a year or two. Remember how people used to lose people's numbers all the time?
November 14, 201410 yr Vanity Fair covered this in 2012. "Since 1992, as the technological miracles and wonders have propagated and the political economy has transformed, the world has become radically and profoundly new. (And then there’s the miraculous drop in violent crime in the United States, by half.) Here is what’s odd: during these same 20 years, the appearance of the world (computers, TVs, telephones, and music players aside) has changed hardly at all, less than it did during any 20-year period for at least a century. The past is a foreign country, but the recent past—the 00s, the 90s, even a lot of the 80s—looks almost identical to the present. This is the First Great Paradox of Contemporary Cultural History."
November 14, 201410 yr Vanity Fair covered this in 2012. "Since 1992, as the technological miracles and wonders have propagated and the political economy has transformed, the world has become radically and profoundly new. (And then theres the miraculous drop in violent crime in the United States, by half.) Here is whats odd: during these same 20 years, the appearance of the world (computers, TVs, telephones, and music players aside) has changed hardly at all, less than it did during any 20-year period for at least a century. The past is a foreign country, but the recent pastthe 00s, the 90s, even a lot of the 80slooks almost identical to the present. This is the First Great Paradox of Contemporary Cultural History." The only reason my photos I took in the 90s look "old" is because they're on film. Early 2000s digital is simply dull-looking or has a washed-out flash, and of course not many of the photos survive because there wasn't Facebook. Meanwhile there are some predictions that although people are taking exponentially more photographs now, they are saving far fewer. And a nuclear bomb could destroy all of the saved data at distances far from the blast zone.
November 14, 201410 yr The internet keeps stuff from going away. Even if something falls from the mainstream, thousands of people will still be chatting about it on the internet in some form. They'll still be able to obtain items from the eras and information on it will be readily available. I remember trying to buy Iron Maiden tapes in stores during the mid-'90s and finding it very tough. Society had "dropped" them and they wound up on some crummy label with so-so distribution. You had to order pretty much anything besides Number of the Beast and their newest one at the time. But I disagree with the article about women's looks specifically. Women do look and dress a lot differently. Maybe the casual clothes haven't changed as much, but a professional woman from 1992 does look massively different. 1992: Feathered hair, little eyebrow trimming, foundation, bright colors, no tattoos, pantyhose, non-platform shoes, no cleavage. 2012(14): Flat hair, sheer or little makeup, thin brows, 80-90% black fabrics, pants, black shoes.
November 14, 201410 yr I tell you one thing that has really changed things: clean design and dullness. Red, black and white dominate -- in fact, I am sick of seeing those three colors together. I tune it out because it is so prolific and generic. And the way action movies, TV shows and video games have gone to all dull colors. They're too boring-looking to hold my attention.
November 14, 201410 yr I think fashion reached its extreme in the mid to late 80's and very early 90's. Since then, 'pushing the envelope' has died down quite a bit. As for the youth, things haven't changed much in the past 20 or so years. Still a bunch of rich kids spending a lot of money trying not to look rich and a bunch of poor kids spending a lot of money trying not to look poor.
November 14, 201410 yr Still a bunch of rich kids spending a lot of money trying not to look rich and a bunch of poor kids spending a lot of money trying not to look poor. And both failing miserably. Especially if they open their mouths.
November 14, 201410 yr A great illustration of how little has changed in the past 15 years is Philip Lorca-Dicorsia's "Heads", the street photographs he took in Times Square 1999-2000 which now sell for ridiculous sums. It was exhibited by chance right when the terrorist attack happened and I saw the photographs that weren't sold at that show at a gallery in Boston in early 2002. They were priced around $4,000 apiece but those same prints are probably worth close to $100,000 now...for photographs of people in the late 90s who look exactly like people now: https://www.moma.org/learn/moma_learning/philip-lorca-dicorcia-head-10-2002 Do a google search for "heads" and you will so many of the others.
November 14, 201410 yr Still a bunch of rich kids spending a lot of money trying not to look rich and a bunch of poor kids spending a lot of money trying not to look poor. And both failing miserably. Especially if they open their mouths. Yeah keeping any Appalachian accent and phrases out of my speech was one of my dad's priorities when I was young. I got whacked if I said "ain't" or shouted like the people on our street. I still have trouble as an adult dealing with hillbillies and those one generation removed from the hills because if it.
November 15, 201410 yr I could be wrong, but while 80s fashion could be as "dated" as any other era (I used to wear club clothes and drive the Firebird while at Case, basically to mess with stereotypes), it was less common to look "dated" than it was in the 70s. Many pics from then could be from now except for female hairstyles, quality, and of course the phones. That trend seems to have increased over time. Yes, you're wrong. When has it ever been "common" to look dated? Please show an example of a pic from then that could be from now? SMDH! *Less* common. To look "current". During the 80s, normal jeans, golf shirts, that sort of thing were the commonplace. The plaids, bell bottoms, etc were common in the 70s. IIRC What are "normal" jeans? We didn't were golf shirts we wore Lacoste, unlike those kids who thought they were cool buy wearing, dare I laugh, Polo shirts. Plaid wasn't popular in the 70, the fabrics changed. Bell bottoms were not common they were a fad.
November 20, 201410 yr Dear Lord. More from Korea: It gets really weird at 2:20 when the "disco boys" show up. Plus, cutaways to women who appear to have looted the Neverland Ranch for some of MJ's skin whitener.
November 20, 201410 yr Dear Lord. More from Korea: It gets really weird at 2:20 when the "disco boys" show up. Plus, cutaways to women who appear to have looted the Neverland Ranch for some of MJ's skin whitener. Unlike Japan, Korean popular culture artists really want to be American, though they sometimes express this in strange ways,
December 3, 201410 yr Hell yeah: So good it needs to be posted again: http://blog.korea.net/?p=5262 Like a G6, son ...
March 24, 201510 yr H&M accused of creating fake heavy metal bands with fake histories to launch heavy metal clothing line: http://www.metalinjection.net/fashion/did-hm-create-fake-underground-metal-bands-with-nazi-imagery-to-push-its-new-clothing-line
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