An epic high school hockey final last night in Nationwide Arena was declared a tie after seven overtime periods couldn't determine a victor.  After seven overtime periods, coaches from Cleveland St. Ignatius and Sylvania Northview agreed to share the state title as the OHSAA final ended in a 1-1 tie.

 

Just to put the length of this game into perspective - a normal hockey game is 60 minutes - this game lasted 200 minutes with the seven extra periods.  The equivalent of three consecutive games plus an extra period. (I stand corrected. OHSAA hockey has 15 minute periods and 8 minute overtime periods. They played 101 minutes (45+56). So it's the equivalent of two consecutive high school games plus 11 extra minutes.)

 

Plain-Dealer: OHSAA hockey state final declared tie between St. Ignatius, Sylvania Northview after 7 overtimes (slideshow, video)

 

ESPN: Two schools share title after 7 OTs

 

Incredible game by both teams, but especially by the Northview goalie. Ignatius was relentless throughout the match, but especially during the 7 overtimes. They outshot Northview 78-32 overall, including outshooting them 41-12 during the overtime periods.

that was very cute and it made the news everywhere. definately was the right thing to do.

A tie? That's as bad as a loss. Yes I realize 7 OT's is insane but is this a rule in the playoff system?

Just to put the length of this game into perspective - a normal hockey game is 60 minutes - this game lasted 200 minutes with the seven extra periods.  The equivalent of three consecutive games plus an extra period.

 

Wooah there. I think you may be confusing NHL playoff overtime rules. OHSAA Hockey has 15 minute periods and 8 minute overtime periods. They played just 101 (45+56) minutes. Not 200.

The first high school baseball game I attended pissed me off when it stopped after the 5th inning.

Just to put the length of this game into perspective - a normal hockey game is 60 minutes - this game lasted 200 minutes with the seven extra periods.  The equivalent of three consecutive games plus an extra period.

 

Wooah there. I think you may be confusing NHL playoff overtime rules. OHSAA Hockey has 15 minute periods and 8 minute overtime periods. They played just 101 (45+56) minutes. Not 200.

 

Correction -- three 20-minute periods and seven 8-minute overtime periods -- 116 minutes.    [i stand corrected.  The game did last almost four hours, however.]

 

Add in time for a Zamboni to refresh the ice surface after every other period and the game lasted about four hours.  An epic game, no doubt -- Northview's goalie was outstanding under all the pressure St. Ignatius put on him.  Kids from both teams were cramping up; I'm guessing that that was a big part of the reason to call the game.  Great, great game.

Iggy Nation seems a bit hot under the collar about this one.

 

It seems to me that the easy way to prevent this in the future is to go to shootout after a certain number of OTs

Andy Baskin was losing his mind over this today on 93.3. I see their point but a decision was made and they have to live with it.

Most hockey people I know lose their minds just as much over the shootout as a tie.

Andy Baskin was losing his mind over this today on 93.3. I see their point but a decision was made and they have to live with it.

 

I had to turn off 92.3. Every time I turned it back on, they were still going at it. Best as I can tell, Baskin spent 2-3 hours ranting about this. Yep, it sucks. But until they change rules allowing shootouts or otherwise having a rule about how/when to end a tied game, that's life.

A few random thoughts:

 

-High school periods are 15 minutes, not 20, so they did indeed play 101 minutes.

 

-Basking played hockey for Heights back in the 1980s.

 

-I hate shootouts, a better way of deciding a winner IMO might have been to take players off of the ice after each OT period until getting down to 3-on-3 and letting them play like that until someone scores.

Andy Baskin was losing his mind over this today on 93.3. I see their point but a decision was made and they have to live with it.

 

I had to turn off 92.3. Every time I turned it back on, they were still going at it. Best as I can tell, Baskin spent 2-3 hours ranting about this. Yep, it sucks. But until they change rules allowing shootouts or otherwise having a rule about how/when to end a tied game, that's life.

 

 

 

This is America: Explosive rage over ties.

Andy Baskin was losing his mind over this today on 93.3. I see their point but a decision was made and they have to live with it.

 

...over a high school hockey game?

^it's a fairly big deal to a lot of people.  Dan Ross (president of OHSAA") was even interviewed on The Dan Patrick show today.  The people making the most noise are Iggy Nation and a certain segment which is painting this as another example of the "every kid gets a trophy" wussification of America

Boy they sure would hate college football before overtime happened in 1996. I guess those guys were wusses and all got trophies too.

...over a high school hockey game?

 

Well, imagine you're a kid and you played the whole season and a playoffs only to end in a tie in the state championship. Why have even have a championship game if it could conceivably end in a tie?

^it's a fairly big deal to a lot of people.  Dan Ross (president of OHSAA") was even interviewed on The Dan Patrick show today.  The people making the most noise are Iggy Nation and a certain segment which is painting this as another example of the "every kid gets a trophy" wussification of America

 

Right about the time I was in school, they were just starting to push the idea that a tie was the ideal result for contests in gym class.  It seemed dumb then, still does.  For one thing, de-emphasizing competition in physical activity makes it less attractive to boys, a gap video games are more than happy to fill.  Hence "childhood obesity", which the pontificators hate to admit is much more prevalent among boys.  There's something to that latter point.

 

Admittedly, I lean pro-Iggy (little brother went there and they are St. Eds' rivals),  but the buzz among them is that their kids wanted to keep playing and the Northview kids did not.  If that's true, they have a point.  Conditioning is part of the game, especially at the higher levels.  Otherwise, Maple Heights never wins a state title in football and far fewer in wrestling.

Admittedly, I lean pro-Iggy (little brother went there and they are St. Eds' rivals),  but the buzz among them is that their kids wanted to keep playing and the Northview kids did not.  If that's true, they have a point.  Conditioning is part of the game, especially at the higher levels.  Otherwise, Maple Heights never wins a state title in football and far fewer in wrestling.[/color]

 

The kids did not get a choice.  The coaches and OHSAA commish made the decision and told the boys the game was being called.  In the post-game interviews both coaches said that their kids wanted to keep playing.

It should have been concluded, even if it came down to the 2 coaches arm wrestling at center ice!

^it's a fairly big deal to a lot of people.  Dan Ross (president of OHSAA") was even interviewed on The Dan Patrick show today.  The people making the most noise are Iggy Nation and a certain segment which is painting this as another example of the "every kid gets a trophy" wussification of America

 

Right about the time I was in school, they were just starting to push the idea that a tie was the ideal result for contests in gym class.  It seemed dumb then, still does.  For one thing, de-emphasizing competition in physical activity makes it less attractive to boys, a gap video games are more than happy to fill.  Hence "childhood obesity", which the pontificators hate to admit is much more prevalent among boys.  There's something to that latter point.

 

Admittedly, I lean pro-Iggy (little brother went there and they are St. Eds' rivals),  but the buzz among them is that their kids wanted to keep playing and the Northview kids did not.  If that's true, they have a point.  Conditioning is part of the game, especially at the higher levels.  Otherwise, Maple Heights never wins a state title in football and far fewer in wrestling.

 

Binge eating and constant food intake are the real culprits behind obesity. Most people can't get obese eating regular meals. What athletic activity can actually do is lead to overeating later in life after the sporting days are over. Athletes really need a lot of calories to function and if they carry those eating habits over to a less active lifestyle they will get fat. If you've been playing sports since age 6 and didn't stop until 23 or later you don't even remember what it's like to only really need 2000 calories or less a day. Meals like that seem tiny and will leave the ex-jock hungry all the time.

Ties don't seem to be hurting soccer's popularity worldwide.

Ties don't seem to be hurting soccer's popularity worldwide.

 

True, but ties aren't allowed in championship matches. IMO, ties shouldn't be allowed in any competitive sport. OHSAA's resistance to skill's competition to end a game is ridiculous. Give them 2 OT's, then a shootout. There, done.

 

As for the outrage over the tie, to echo ColDayMan, it's high school hockey.

Ties don't seem to be hurting soccer's popularity worldwide.

 

True, but ties aren't allowed in championship matches. IMO, ties shouldn't be allowed in any competitive sport. OHSAA's resistance to skill's competition to end a game is ridiculous. Give them 2 OT's, then a shootout. There, done.

 

As for the outrage over the tie, to echo ColDayMan, it's high school hockey.

 

Correct and in most international competitions they also have a point where they reach a shootout.  Like the USA v. Russia hockey match during the Olympics. 

 

H*ll, Two years ago a cr@p Chelsea team won the Champions League because they were able to survive until a shootout. 

 

I would like to see how an extended overtime, with removing players, would work in soccer.  30 min OT full sides, another 30 min -2 players, then maybe a shootout.

Ties don't seem to be hurting soccer's popularity worldwide.

 

They hurt it in the US, indeed that's one of the big issues (particularly the 0-0 tie) and why indoor soccer was arguably more popular than the traditional game.  Another was fewer players and a smaller field of play.

 

In youth sports it's different, for the same reasons gym classes de-emphasize competition.

 

In the US, a tie is "like kissing your sister". 

 

(Our coaches made that comment after a game once and "some smartass" made a crack referring to one of the other players and his twin sister...) :evil:

 

You could do something similar to what wrestling does.  After X overtimes, the team that scored first has the option of going on power play, or defending it.  Two minutes, if they score they win, if not the defenders do.

 

 

 

Ties don't seem to be hurting soccer's popularity worldwide.

 

They hurt it in the US, indeed that's one of the big issues (particularly the 0-0 tie) and why indoor soccer was arguably more popular than the traditional game.  Another was fewer players and a smaller field of play.

 

In youth sports it's different, for the same reasons gym classes de-emphasize competition.

 

In the US, a tie is "like kissing your sister". 

 

(Our coaches made that comment after a game once and "some smartass" made a crack referring to one of the other players and his twin sister...) :evil:

 

 

I think this was especially true during soccer's first incarnation (NASL) and the early years of MLS (90's) but as the Premier League and other European competitions have become more widely available and the associated understanding of the game has increased I do not believe ties are viewed the same way.  Especially when placed over a long season, one individual game doesn't have as large of an impact.