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The developers' press release I posted earlier referred to the project as a TOD, and thus credited the HealthLine.

 

This city wouldn't know TOD if it hit 'em square in the face.  I neither believe this building was so located because of the HL nor that most people living there will use it... The complex will actually be a couple blocks from the UC Red Line station.  Unfortunately, new station design closes off entry for potential riders coming from west of the station so that, without some kind of ped walkway over the crazy-busy Cedar-Carnegie-MLK junction, Rapid usage won't be feasible for One Univ Circle residents, even for 1-seat rides to Ohio City or the Airport.

 

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The developers' press release I posted earlier referred to the project as a TOD, and thus credited the HealthLine.

 

This city wouldn't know TOD if it hit 'em square in the face.  I neither believe this building was so located because of the HL nor that most people living there will use it... The complex will actually be a couple blocks from the UC Red Line station.  Unfortunately, new station design closes off entry for potential riders coming from west of the station so that, without some kind of ped walkway over the crazy-busy Cedar-Carnegie-MLK junction, Rapid usage won't be feasible for One Univ Circle residents, even for 1-seat rides to Ohio City or the Airport.

 

 

Still a long way to go.  If this thing ever gets to the planning commission, its people like us that are tasked to make sure they try to bring that into it.

why do neither the PD or Crains articles not show the rendering that we have on this page?

 

We didn't use that old rendering because Mitchell Schneider and Sam Petros told me that it's not representative of the project. That rendering was released to us as part of a piece that Steven Litt wrote a while back about the idea of higher-density, higher-rise development in University Circle. But it doesn't necessarily reflect the architecture and design of One University Circle. So re-publishing it seemed likely to mislead or confuse readers.

 

The developers are in the process of selecting a local and national architect and a general contractor with experience on high-rise residential projects.

 

Michelle

 

 

since an architect has not yet been retained it is fair to say that nobody know exactly what the building will look like at this point. (see michelle's post upthread).

(sigh... whatever)

 

So happy to see this moving forward. Not sure which of the rennderings I like better.

 

^doesn't really matter since they are both simply pretty pictures somebody pulled out of thin air and do not rep. the finished product.

19 action news stood in front of the wrong spot. The reporter stood in front of the museum of arts and referenced the building site as the  old institute of art campus.  Hmmm.  Very misleading/inaccurate reporting

^doesn't really matter since they are both simply pretty pictures somebody pulled out of thin air and do not rep. the finished product.

 

Yes, I know... more so than most people.

Was just commenting on the renderings as they stand with out going into any real thoughts on it.

19 action news stood in front of the wrong spot. The reporter stood in front of the museum of arts and referenced the building site as the  old institute of art campus.  Hmmm.  Very misleading/inaccurate reporting

 

Absolutely shocked :wink:  This deserves a very embarrassing e mail to somebody.

(sigh... whatever)

 

So happy to see this moving forward. Not sure which of the rennderings I like better.

 

 

I do like the one that 19 posted, though that style has been done before, and better.

19 action news stood in front of the wrong spot. The reporter stood in front of the museum of arts and referenced the building site as the  old institute of art campus.
Someone probably was told that the site was formerly the Cleveland Institute of Art, which it was....about 90 years ago. Since then a Howard Johnson's hotel has come and gone and now is the Children's Museum. I imagine that the News Dept. was thinking of the current CIA site and sent the hapless reporter there. Research, research, research!!

Someone probably was told that the site was formerly the Cleveland Institute of Art, which it was....about 90 years ago. Since then a Howard Johnson's hotel has come and gone and now is the Children's Museum.

Wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the history of the site.

 

I'm already anxious to see the photo thread of the views from the building. Damn those will be cool.

Someone probably was told that the site was formerly the Cleveland Institute of Art, which it was....about 90 years ago. Since then a Howard Johnson's hotel has come and gone and now is the Children's Museum. I imagine that the News Dept. was thinking of the current CIA site and sent the hapless reporter there. Research, research, research!!

 

Thinking? Oh you give Channel 19 way too much credit. But they're everywhere -- like zombies!!

 

The rendering I've posted is the only that's been attached to this project. Yep, its very conceptual. But since they used it to sell this project, so will I!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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Any news on that residential highrise that is to go where the children's museum currently is? I haven't heard much about it since April or so. Are they keeping it shelved until a new site for the children's museum can be found?

^ I don't have much to say, but from what little I know as a lowly little intern, that project is still pretty certain to happen. They're just waiting on more funding to pull together.

Self censoring previous post. Sorry about this everybody. But it's the right thing to do.

^ Hey, fellow young urbanite, let's get drunk together!

The bad news is my friend has since had a somewhat less than amicable breakup with said person, so I'm now out of the loop on the project going forward. Which is a real shame. It was nice having another young person in my social circle that I could talk urban planning & development with while getting drunk!  :-)

 

You need to encourage your friend to get back together for UrbanOhio and the greater good!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

  • 4 weeks later...

Sorry folks. Have to self censor again. I would delete it if I could. That's all I can say.

Thanks for the info. Still could be a great project. Height is of less importance to me. Density and street presence/pedestrian interaction is what interests me more.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Extra height would be a happy bonus. Other than that, I honestly couldn't agree with you more.

  • 5 months later...

Anyone hearing anything about this project?  Is an August start date still possible?

I almost forgot about this one. Just checked the portfolio page on First Interstate's website, and I notice that the One University Circle rendering that was previously there has been removed. It's been replaced by... a stock photograph of some rolls of blue prints. I think we have to assume that means the project either has been sent back to the drawing board or is close to being scrapped altogether. And of course, being sent back to the drawing board in and of itself could end up being either a good thing or a bad thing. It thus appears that like the great Woody Hayes said about passing in football, three things might have happened to OUC and two of them are bad.

 

FIP has made obvious and clear progress on the Legacy Village expansion within the past number of months, and yet we've had absolute silence about OUC for literally a full year now. Heck, many doubted that Intessa would ever come to fruition and yet we've seen and heard more progress on that than UOC.

 

Come on FIP! We know you have people lurking on this site. Release some news - any news - to suggest that One University Circle isn't dead in the water. Your silence is deafening!

  • 1 month later...

19 action news stood in front of the wrong spot. The reporter stood in front of the museum of arts and referenced the building site as the  old institute of art campus.
Someone probably was told that the site was formerly the Cleveland Institute of Art, which it was....about 90 years ago. Since then a Howard Johnson's hotel has come and gone and now is the Children's Museum. I imagine that the News Dept. was thinking of the current CIA site and sent the hapless reporter there. Research, research, research!!

That's incorrect.  The former Cleveland Institute of Art, at that time called the Cleveland School of Art, was where the dormitories are that broke up Magnolia Drive when they were built.  The address was often given as "Juniper and Magnolia." Now what became the eastern segment of former Magnolia Drive is considered part of Juniper Road.  It was sort of a Flemish-style building constructed in 1904 and designed by Hubbell & Benes.  Interestingly, the corresponding art college in Baltimore still uses a building of similar design.  In the vicinity of the site of One University Circle was that of an earlier Western Reserve Historical Society.  It opened in 1898 and remained there as the Society's main building until it moved into the two mansions on East Boulevard in 1939-40.

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I don't work for FIP but I don't think this is dead in the water. I don't know much about timeframes or that all-important factor money, but unless I'm very mistaken "back to the drawing board" is closer to the truth than "being scrapped altogether".

Thanks for your post, PittsburgoDelendaEst. Welcome! I hope you're right.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I don't work for FIP but I don't think this is dead in the water. I don't know much about timeframes or that all-important factor money, but unless I'm very mistaken "back to the drawing board" is closer to the truth than "being scrapped altogether".

 

Someone's a Browns fan :evil:

One holdup is the Children's Museum which occupies the current space. The Beckwith Mansion in Midtown which is to be their future home is still in the process of obtaining funds/tax credits for it's renovation. They are looking for Historic tax credits, idk if they are in this current round(14) which are to be announced by 6/30.

 

So what happened with the 6/30 round?

The Beckwith Mansion applied but did not win tax credits this round.

Is the project totally dependent on this funding?  Another six months of no progress?

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Progress is being made and designs will be coming out soon. I believe it will be closer to 20 stories.

^ Well that's really great to hear!

At 20 stories it won't be nearly as impressive, plus, if there was to be ground floor retail, the more residents above it to support it the better. To really stand out, this building should be at least 35 stories....Medical Mutual building is 31 stories--would be nice to see something a little taller than that at this site.  Perhaps make the top 15 stories condos--above 20 of apts--that will certainly attract people that wouldn't pay such high fees just to rent.

The Medical Mutual building is ten stories.

 

The Medical Mutual building is ten stories.

 

I think Pugu might be referring to One Cleveland Center which was originally built for Medical Mutual

 

 

 

The Medical Mutual building is ten stories.

 

I think Pugu might be referring to One Cleveland Center which was originally built for Medical Mutual

 

Wow i had no idea and was confused. Thanks for clarifying.

 

What are the cliffs notes on the story behind the move?

^They actually never moved in in the first place

mrclifton88---yes, thanks for clarifying. the building I was referring to is on the SE corner of E9 and St. Clair. I guess the name is different now---"One Cleveland Center". But for years---including the formative period in my head---it was called the "Medical Mutual Building"---and thus that's the name I use (and remember) for that buidling. I had no idea that there is a 10-story buidling out there by that name as well--that is confusing!

mrclifton88---yes, thanks for clarifying. the building I was referring to is on the SE corner of E9 and St. Clair. I guess the name is different now---"One Cleveland Center". But for years---including the formative period in my head---it was called the "Medical Mutual Building"---and thus that's the name I use (and remember) for that buidling. I had no idea that there is a 10-story buidling out there by that name as well--that is confusing!

 

That's crazy.  My whole life I've only known it as One Cleveland Center.  I never knew it was originally built for Medical Mutual.

At 20 stories it won't be nearly as impressive, plus, if there was to be ground floor retail, the more residents above it to support it the better. To really stand out, this building should be at least 35 stories....Medical Mutual building is 31 stories--would be nice to see something a little taller than that at this site.  Perhaps make the top 15 stories condos--above 20 of apts--that will certainly attract people that wouldn't pay such high fees just to rent.

 

Nearly as impressive as what? The last news about this several months ago was that they were thinking of only 12 to 14 floors, so back up to 20 is very good. This will end up being around the same height as the Ernst and Young tower in the flats and the tallest building in University Circle, so I don't see a problem. If 30 stories were feasable, I'm sure the developer would do it, but it's easy to entertain fantasies and "what ifs" when it's someone else's money.

"If 30 stories were feasable, I'm sure the developer would do it, but it's easy to entertain fantasies and "what ifs" when it's someone else's money."

 

Agreed. Fyi, the Medical Mutual headquarters is the Rose Building and 1375 East Ninth has been known as One Cleveland Center since at least seven years after its construction but moving on from *that* discussion ...

20 stories is plenty big for a non-downtown, new-construction residential tower, especially when it has no recent precedents in the area. If this market-rate building fills up quickly, I expect there will be copy-cats.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

20 stories will definitely stand out in this area and should easily be visible from miles away, esp from downtown.  I don't believe that any of the nearby Clinic campus buildings even approach this height.  I could be wrong, though, but they seem rather squat IIRC.

20 stories will definitely stand out in this area and should easily be visible from miles away, esp from downtown.  I don't believe that any of the nearby Clinic campus buildings even approach this height.  I could be wrong, though, but they seem rather squat IIRC.

 

IIRC, the two tallest buildings on the Clinic campus are the W.O. Walker and Crile buildings, which are both around 15-16 stories and 200 feet

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