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33 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

 

I had to look it up.  I assumed that the name had some geographic basis, not absolutely nothing to do with anything.  Out of all of the new brewery names, only like 4 out of the 30+ have a name that actually means something, and I don't think any of them are named after the owner.  But the made-up names are nowhere near as flamboyant as they think they are, i.e., it's a fraction of a typical race horse lineup.  Instead it's like a bunch of normies coming up with band names for a battle of the bands. 

 

I remember when Sam Adams appeared around 1990, and the way the beer had nothing whatsoever to do with Sam Adams or even Boston.  Throw a new label on that same beer and the beer snobs would think it's great.  Talk about how it's "hop-forward". 

 

 

 

Three Points refers to the the triangle shape of Pendelton. 

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29 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

 

I had to look it up.  I assumed that the name had some geographic basis, not absolutely nothing to do with anything.  Out of all of the new brewery names, only like 4 out of the 30+ have a name that actually means something, and I don't think any of them are named after the owner.  But the made-up names are nowhere near as flamboyant as they think they are, i.e., it's a fraction of a typical race horse lineup.  Instead it's like a bunch of normies coming up with band names for a battle of the bands. 

 

I remember when Sam Adams appeared around 1990, and the way the beer had nothing whatsoever to do with Sam Adams or even Boston.  Throw a new label on that same beer and the beer snobs would think it's great.  Talk about how it's "hop-forward". 

 

 

The name does have a geographic basis. It's named after the neighborhood of Pendleton, which is defined by three points. The intersections of Sycamore/Liberty, Reading/Liberty, and Central Parkway/Sycamore. I think it's a rather creative name, personally. 

 

Also, Sam Adams is brewed by the Boston Beer Company, headquartered in Boston. It was launched on the day of the Boston Marathon and is named after a famous Bostonian who also brewed beer. I can't think of a more Boston name. 

^Sam McAdams?

55 minutes ago, jmecklenborg said:

 

 

Out of all of the new brewery names, only like 4 out of the 30+ have a name that actually means something, and I don't think any of them are named after the owner.

 

 

All the good brewery names were trademarked 5+ years ago. Now it's slim pickens (which, Google tells me, is itself already a brewery name).

6 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

 

All the good brewery names were trademarked 5+ years ago. Now it's slim pickens (which, Google tells me, is itself already a brewery name).

 

There is a already a Three Points brewery in New York City, which is what came up first when I googled this place.  The "about us" story is basically the same. 

 

Plus, there is a Brewery Cliché Name Generator:

https://www.fantasynamegenerators.com/brewery-names.php

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think there's a difference between 3 Points Brewery and Threes Brewing

 

There's also Sixpoint Brewery and Five Boroughs Brewing Company.

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Cincinnati brewery owner acquires craft distillery

 

The owner of a growing Cincinnati brewery is adding to his portfolio of craft beverage companies through the acquisition of a Norwood craft distillery.

 

Bob Slattery, a partner in Fifty West Brewing Co., announced Tuesday the acquisition of the Shumrick and Leys Distillery at 2810 Highland Ave. He's rebranding the spirits manufacturer to Robert James Distillery.

 

“We plan to continue traditional distilling techniques but also look forward to exploring new technologies to improve quality and accelerate the aging processes that haven’t changed in hundreds of years," Slattery said in a news release. "As networks of smaller distilleries employ these technology updates, they can band together to disrupt big liquor in ways previously not possible."

 

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Here's why Fifty West's Bob Slattery wanted to buy a distillery

 

Fifty West partner Bob Slattery has always had his eye on the craft beverage industry, from having opened Slatt's Pub to being a founder of one of the fastest-growing breweries in the country, so it shouldn't have come as much surprise when he announced April 23 his acquisition of a local craft distillery.

 

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Brewery bringing pizza, live music to the East Side

 

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A "fraternal brewing collective" from Anderson Township has decided to make an honest go of the beer business and is opening a brewery that will combine craft beer, pizza and live music.

 

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Greater Cincinnati craft distillery opens bar and lounge

 

A craft spirits distillery just across the Ohio River from Cincinnati opened its new bar and lounge space over the weekend.

 

Second Sight Spirits at 301 Elm St. in Ludlow unveiled its expansion on April 27, which includes a bar, lounge and stage for live entertainment.

 

The new bar and lounge was made possible as the distillery, known for its rum and as a stop along the Kentucky Bourbon Trail Craft Tour, took over the former Wynner's Cup space adjacent to its still and tasting room.

 

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Brewery named for Cincinnati riverboat heritage opening along Ohio River

 

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A brewery and restaurant named for Cincinnati's heritage as a riverboat town is opening along the banks of the Ohio River.

 

Dead Low Brewing is coming to 5959 Kellogg Ave. in the East End with a goal of opening in July. The brewery will house a taproom, full-service restaurant, outdoor beer garden, performance stage and rentable private event space.

 

Deal Low is founded by brother and sister Christine Hall and Paul Ganim and their friend Kyle Havens. Ganim and Havens are longtime homebrewers and friends and founding members of the fraternal brewing cooperative Big Ash (which is opening its own brewery in Anderson Township). Hall and Ganim have previously launched multiple businesses together as well.

 

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5959 Kellogg would put it way out in California, not the East End.

12 minutes ago, Ram23 said:

5959 Kellogg would put it way out in California, not the East End.

 

Looks like they bought out the "Touch of Elegance" reception hall.  

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That's a pretty good location.  It's not hard to imagine a lot of people leaving Riverbend or company picnics at Coney Island will stop in, not to mention the other reception hall right next door, site of my high school's 1995 Winter Formal.  

 

Actually it looks like that place has been turned into an indoor soccer and maybe basketball and gymnastics venue:

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Boston Beer Company and Dogfish Head Agree to Merge in $300 Million Deal

 

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“We talked about how challenging the industry is getting, the indie craft definition, brands that consumers think are indie craft, active lifestyle beers, and we discovered how beautifully complementary and not competitive our portfolios were,” he said.

 

In a press release, the two companies said the merger would “create a powerful Amercian-owned platform for craft beer and beyond.”

 

“This combination is the right fit as both Boston Beer and Dogfish Head have a passion for brewing and innovation, we share the same values and we will learn a lot from each other as we continue to invest in the high-end beer category,” Koch said, via the press release.

 

This seems like a really big deal that has the potential to impact Boston Beer Company's presence in Cincinnati. I would predict that in the near future, they will start brewing some Dogfish Head beers at the Sam Adams brewery in the West End. If we're lucky they might even revamp the Sam Adams Tap Room in the Film Center building to feature more Dogfish Head beers -- Dogfish Head is known for having a wide variety of interesting experimental beers that are only available in their tap rooms.

Braxton expanding with new facility that will embrace Kentucky's bourbon heritage

 

Covington's Braxton Brewing Co., one of the Cincinnati region's largest craft breweries, is expanding into a third facility, one that will embrace the bourbon heritage of its native state.

 

Braxton is opening the Braxton Barrel House in the former Fort Mitchell Remke Market building at 2501 Dixie Highway in a redevelopment by 360 Property Partners. The goal is to open by early fall.

 

The Braxton Barrel House will have a 1,500-2,000-square-foot patio and a taproom, but the centerpiece will be a 20,000-square-foot rickhouse in the building's subterranean warehouse. That rickhouse will serve as a barrel aging facility for a unique program Braxton is introducing to the region.

 

"We believe it's the first of its kind," Braxton CEO Jake Rouse told me. "It's a facility that blends bourbon culture with beer culture."

 

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Craft brewery partners with Klosterman on summer beer

 

A Greater Cincinnati craft brewery is collaborating with Klosterman Baking Co. on a summer beer inspired by one of the bakery’s classic products.

 

Blue Ash’s Fretboard Brewing and Klosterman will release the Klosterman Honey Wheat Lager, a summer lager based on the classic Klosterman Rich n’ Good honey buns, bread and rolls.

 

Amy Schmitz, director of marketing at Klosterman, told me that fans responded well to last year’s partnership, the Klosterman Rye Bier. She said that partnering with an up-and-coming brewery to create a co-branded beer was an attractive opportunity.

 

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Silverton's first brewery opens this weekend; here's what to expect

 

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Silverton's first craft brewery, one that's taken pains to minimize its environmental impact while providing a list of creative beer styles, is officially opening this week.

 

HighGrain Brewing Co. is hosting its grand opening May 31 in the former Silverton Town Hall at 6860 Plainfield Road.

 

The brewery bills itself as a sustainable, eco-friendly establishment. One of its brews that will be on tap for the grand opening was created for the U.S. Green Building Council's Sustainable Suds challenge, where the brewery planted trees to offset the carbon created from cultivating and shipping the grain used in the beer to boiling the water with its gas-fired boiler.

 

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Silverton's first craft brewery is now open; take a look inside

 

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Silverton's first craft brewery just opened in the village's former town hall, and it's taking great strides to minimize its environmental impact.

 

HighGrain Brewing Co. opened at 6860 Plainfield Road on May 31. Flip through the photos for a look inside.

 

HighGrain takes eco-friendly steps like planting trees to offset its carbon footprint from cultivating and shipping its grain, buying its electricity from a wind farm and using a high-efficiency geo-thermal HVAC system. None of its beer will be transported off-site, saving on fuel emissions.

 

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Braxton Brewing sets date to unveil its rooftop bar

 

Covington's Braxton Brewing Co. has set the opening date for the debut of its rooftop bar, and it's a significant milestone for the Northern Kentucky brewery.

 

Braxton is unveiling its 5,000-square-foot rooftop bar at its flagship brewery at 27 W. Seventh St. on July 20, a date that coincides with the brewery's fourth anniversary.

 

“The past four years have been the ride of a lifetime. We’ve built a brewery focused on innovation and approachability, without compromising who we are," CEO Jake Rouse said in a news release.

 

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7 minutes ago, taestell said:

 "several signed letters of intent from new-to-market food and beverage tenants." 

 

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FWIW, I have heard that MadTree's owners have zero desire to enter the urban core. It's a shame because I think they could open a tap room somewhere downtown and it would be very successful.

14 minutes ago, taestell said:

FWIW, I have heard that MadTree's owners have zero desire to enter the urban core. It's a shame because I think they could open a tap room somewhere downtown and it would be very successful.

 

For whatever reason those guys absolutely love the ground John Cranley walks on, it makes me wanna barf, hearing them talk high praises about that man. 

Why would MadTree want to open a location in the urban core?  Their current location is a quick uber/drive away, putting something that close would just split up their business.  They already have plenty of brewing capacity in the current location so I don't think they're going to open any other locations in Cincy. 

4 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

Why would MadTree want to open a location in the urban core?  Their current location is a quick uber/drive away, putting something that close would just split up their business.  They already have plenty of brewing capacity in the current location so I don't think they're going to open any other locations in Cincy. 

 

I'm not talking about a big new brewing facility, just a small tap room that would capitalize on the success of the urban core. Think about Platform on Main Street, Sam Adam's by Findlay Market, the future BrewDog location in Pendleton, or even the Moerlein Lager House -- none of those locations are the "primary" place where beer is brewed for those brands, just an auxiliary tap room/restaurant. I think a MadTree tap room at Fountain Square, The Banks, or even NOTL would do extremely well and not take away any business from their main facility.

On 7/22/2019 at 2:23 PM, Cincy513 said:

Why would MadTree want to open a location in the urban core?  Their current location is a quick uber/drive away, putting something that close would just split up their business.  They already have plenty of brewing capacity in the current location so I don't think they're going to open any other locations in Cincy. 

 

I don't think this is true. I love Madtree's beer but I rarely go there. It's out of the way for me and there is nothing else around it I want to do/see. I go there once in a blue moon but it is a rarity and is usually because I'm already in the area. I never take visitors there because there is too much to see and do downtown to take time out of our day to go there. But if they had a taproom in OTR or Downtown I would go after work and I would take visitors there. The amount of business they get from me and my social circle would easily quadruple at a minimum. 

22 minutes ago, DEPACincy said:

 

I don't think this is true. I love Madtree's beer but I rarely go there. It's out of the way for me and there is nothing else around it I want to do/see. I go there once in a blue moon but it is a rarity and is usually because I'm already in the area. I never take visitors there because there is too much to see and do downtown to take time out of our day to go there. But if they had a taproom in OTR or Downtown I would go after work and I would take visitors there. The amount of business they get from me and my social circle would easily quadruple at a minimum. 

Anecdotally, I agree. I've been to MadTree exactly once (when going to a movie in Oakley), whereas I've been to Rhinegeist and Taft's Ale House dozens of times. I never went to MadTree when it was in its old location.

 

I certainly don't get the impression that they hurt for business in their current location, but I expect they'd draw a different crowd with an outpost downtown.

I'm much more like you guys in that I went to the new Madtree the first year it first opened but haven't been back much since.  But I know a bunch of people who live downtown or in OTR who go there frequently because they have friends who live in Oakley.  But more importantly I don't think Madtree cares about any business they're potentially missing out on. 

 

They are making tons of money the way they're operating right now and I don't expect much to change moving forward.  They are the opposite of Rhinegeist in that they only expanded out of necessity, their old taproom was way too small for how popular they are.  They just wanted to start a small local brewery that blew up because they picked a great location.  Whereas Rhinegeist from the beginning was about getting as big as possible as quickly as possible.  Madtree could sell a lot more beer in a lot more locations then they currently are doing but they just don't seem that interested in becoming much larger.  So while I think a downtown tap room would do great I don't expect it to ever happen.  

 

Blue sky, pie in the sky question... Not sure how much revenue Mad Tree generates each year, but I almost wonder if Rheingeist would ever buy Mad Tree out. 

2 minutes ago, troeros said:

Blue sky, pie in the sky question... Not sure how much revenue Mad Tree generates each year, but I almost wonder if Rheingeist would ever buy Mad Tree out. 

Unless something terrible happens to Madtree that would never happen.  Why would Madtree ever sell to its biggest competitor when they're making plenty of money on their own?  And why would Rhinegeist want to buy another brewery in their hometown when they already have tons of brewing space between their taproom and warehouse? 

30 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

But more importantly I don't think Madtree cares about any business they're potentially missing out on. 

 

If you're not growing, you're dying.

Mad Tree is making hand over fist. They're growing even without opening an unnecessary 2nd location downtown. In 2018, they expanded into the Nashville market. They recently started a cider brand though the haven't started canning it yet. Once they start selling those ciders in cans they'll make even more money. This This 2017 article from biz courier says all you need to know: 

 

"MadTree was founded in 2013 and was the first craft beer in Ohio to can its product. The brewery recently moved into a new $18 million facility in the rehabbed former RockTenn manufacturing facility at 3301 Madison Road. The upgrade will allow MadTree to produce 50,000 barrels of beer by 2018 with room to expand to 100,000 barrels by 2020. MadTree is Cincinnati's third-largest craft brewery by barrels of beer produced with 19,700 in the first nine months of 2017, according to Courier research. It's also one of Cincinnati's fastest-growing private companies, increasing revenue 85 percent since 2014, with 2016 revenue of $8.2 million."

 

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-completely pointless for Rheingeist to merge with Madtree

-Madtree not dying

-one X factor threat for microbrews is this hard seltzer stuff like White Claw. Exploding in popularity this summer. Not much craft to it so there’s little opportunity for microbreweries to differentiate themselves making their own seltzer brands

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1 hour ago, DEPACincy said:

 

If you're not growing, you're dying.

They're growing, just at the slow rate they want to grow at.  For every Rhinegeist that has blown up there are tons of breweries and other businesses that expanded too fast and flopped.  Just look at Blank Slate. 

5 minutes ago, Cincy513 said:

They're growing, just at the slow rate they want to grow at.  For every Rhinegeist that has blown up there are tons of breweries and other businesses that expanded too fast and flopped.  Just look at Blank Slate. 

 

Last I'll comment so we can get back on topic here. I didn't mean to imply they are dying. I know they are growing. They have a great business. What I meant was that you're either growing or you're dying and they are clearly growing, so I reject the idea that they'd never consider opening a taproom downtown. Fifty West is opening a taproom in Chillicothe of all places. Moerlein opened one in the airport. A taproom is easy money, especially in places with tons of foot traffic. The folks are Madtree are smart and it wouldn't surprise me if at some point down the road they see how much money they could make from a downtown presence and decide to add a taproom there, or (to bring it back to the topic) at the newly renovated NOTL.

The "If you're not growing, you're dying" mantra mostly applies to publicly traded companies. And not during "flight to quality" events.

A taproom of an established brewery in the city or even a new brewery would be a nice addition to the new Levee.  Hofbrauhaus I'm sure wouldn't love that but the trade off of more foot traffic could end up being a win in the long run.  

The new owner should have never moved Wiedemann brewery out of Newport, they could have been a great addition to the levee. I am sure the new location is great but the history of Wiedemann belongs in Newport not St. Bernard...

3 hours ago, cincydave8 said:

Mad Tree is making hand over fist. They're growing even without opening an unnecessary 2nd location downtown. In 2018, they expanded into the Nashville market.

 

I don't understand why so many people are pushing back on the idea that they could open a tap room somewhere in the urban core. Saying that a it is "unnecessary" is like saying that MadTree's expansion into the Nashville market is "unnecessary" ... they didn't need to expand, but doing so allowed them to sell more beer which is the point of their business. And again, I'm not suggesting they open a "2nd location" as big as their massive brewery in Oakley, just a lil ol' tap toom like Sam Adams opened by Findlay Market or Platform did on Main Street.

 

It wasn't "necessary" for Moerlein to open the Lager House at Smale Park, but it's cool that people visiting our urban core can now enjoy a locally brewed beer from a local brewery right on our riverfront. We could have ended up with a chain like Rock Bottom, Gordon Biersch, or BJ's Brewhouse there instead.

 

Anyway, as I said earlier, MadTree's ownership is not interested in opening an urban outpost so it's a moot point. It would be cool to have a Braxton brewery/restaurant at the Levee since they are very proud of their Northern Kentucky identity, but since they just invested in a massive new rooftop deck at their main brewery in Covington, and they already have an unnecessary 2nd location inside the Party Source, I don't think they are likely to open a new taproom any time soon.

I'm sorry you didn't like my phrasing but I just used the word unnecessary because I was getting the impression (as other posters were) that some posters were indicating that Mad Tree was struggling by not growing-via-downtown-taproom. Personally, I'd much rather see a brand new unique to the area brewery like 3 Points or a well known craft brewery that will draw in beer tourists like Brew Dog and Sam Adams as opposed to Mad Tree opening a 2nd location downtown. 

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In what shouldn't be much of a surprise, Queen City Brewery of Cincinnati in Blue Ash announced they're closing. Famously started of a kick starter, they mostly used malt extract instead of all grain. You can read their facebook post here.  I was at Fretboard recently on a Saturday afternoon. They were packed and have some great beers,  fun atmosphere and good bbq. Then drove over over to QCB. The place was empty, the taproom was odd to say the least and it was depressing. The beer was also bad. I'd file them under the same umbrella as Tap & Screw. Just because you make an decent home brew with a kit from Listermans doesn't mean you should open a brewery. 

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Downtown getting first new brewery in more than a decade

 

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Downtown Cincinnati is getting its first new brewery in more than a decade – and the city's first veteran-owned brewery – in a project coming to Fourth Street.

 

Rebel Mettle Brewery is coming to 412 Central Ave.

 

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So Rebel Mettle was supposed to go in the old Clyffside Brewery Building at 244-246 West McMicken Avenue.  What happens to the 1.3 Million dollar Ohio Historic Preservation Tax Credit that was awarded to that project?   That would really suck if those funds were lost. Can the credit be kept for that building and applied to another concept? 

 

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3 minutes ago, cincity said:

So Rebel Mettle was supposed to go in the old Clyffside Brewery Building at 244-246 West McMicken Avenue.  What happens to the 1.3 Million dollar Ohio Historic Preservation Tax Credit that was awarded to that project?   That would really suck if those funds were lost. Can the credit be kept for that building and applied to another concept? 

 

 

I doubt they can keep the credits with the building if they aren't building what they proposed. 

Sounds like there plans were way to ambitious. Sucks when businesses build hype and don't think far enough about how much all of it will actually cost. 

It wasn't the cost, but a timing issue. Rebel Mettle was financed separately and already purchased and received their brewing equipment and it is going to be another year till Clyffside is ready due to delays in not getting the credits in earlier rounds. The brewery simply couldn't wait. The rehab dollars for Clyffside are mostly for the building shell and event center, I don't know exactly how much is for the brewery itself. Usually production/processing equipment is not eligible, only building rehab costs so much of it may be able to be converted. Applicants have up to 2 years to begin construction so there is still a chance to keep the credits in play.

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Good, so hopefully they are still going to operate Clyffside mainly as an event center (with a taproom on the first floor, maybe collaborating with other brewers as well).  Rhinegeist and the Bell Event Center currently has a lock on the OTR wedding scene, I think there's plenty of room for another space like that.

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New brewery fills former Rivertown space

 

Rivertown Brewing's former home in Lockland has new life as another brewery reopens those doors to the public.

 

Cincy Brewing Co. hosted its grand opening on Aug. 26 at 607 Shepherd Dr. in Lockland in the space Rivertown occupied before that brewery moved to a larger space in Monroe in 2017.

 

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