January 12, 20232 yr 44 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said: No. It’s gonna lop a decent amount off capacity. The 500-level is effectively being removed at the wings. EDIT. Just saw on Twitter the Guardians say it won’t affect capacity. I guess for every seat lost, they’re replacing it with an SRO spot. Based on the rendering, it looks like the "shipping containers" in this area will be reverting back to seating.
January 12, 20232 yr ^ There’s only a couple of them there. All the rest are to the left of where you’ve highlighted, running down the entire length of the stand. My hovercraft is full of eels
January 12, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, TBideon said: "“As we surveyed our fans, we continuously heard feedback that aligned with the success we saw with the Corner Bar – a focus on more social spaces and compelling fan experiences in the ballpark offering unique ways to enjoy a game." I'm pretty sure most fans just want to watch the game in relative peace, especially when with families. Compelling fan experiences? Get the f out of here. Now for a Ballpark Village like in St. Louis, much more applicable. How do a couple sections of "fan experience" with social areas and bars ruin relative peace for families when there are 10s of thousands of seats already dedicated to that? This isn't 30 years ago when the ballpark opened and baseball was more popular, MLB teams need to find ways to get people into the ballpark. But like i said, idk how these areas ruin your ability to watch baseball in the traditional fashion of sitting in your seat.
January 13, 20232 yr I really like it. My only critique is the administration building. It looks horrendous with its unique roof lopped off. Like some 70’s-80’s office building on Shaker. Someone needs to tell them no bueno on that one.
January 13, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, marty15 said: I really like it. My only critique is the administration building. It looks horrendous with its unique roof lopped off. Like some 70’s-80’s office building on Shaker. Someone needs to tell them no bueno on that one. They were probably thinking that roof is a bit of a dated 90's post-modern thing. And since they have to take it off to add an extra floor anyway, why replace it?
January 13, 20232 yr Not sure how the new admin building fits in architecturally but from the pics of the enhancementthe rest of the reno looks really great. Like everyone else l'm glad to see the container boxes go. They fit like a square peg in a round hole. I actually liked the look of the old Terrace Club (thought it looked like it was ie. exclusive. But l get it. We're in different times now so it was no longer feasible. The change to that section looks seamless. In fact both the old Terrace Club and the upper right field deck changes look modern enough while at the same time fitting into what is an old retro designed ballpark. And the changes allow for what fans of today appear to want. Which is flexibility in how they enjoy the game. And for me the best thing about the ballpark continues to be the location. Love how it is placed within downtown with some great views of the skyline. Whenever l see a stadium sitting in some field somewhere surrounded by a sea of parking my first thought is what a waste. Cities are meant to be active. Removing a stadium from downtown also removes its energy. The fan experience is wasted on a parking lot. Thank god we didn't have to deal with that.
January 13, 20232 yr 11 hours ago, cadmen said: And for me the best thing about the ballpark continues to be the location. Love how it is placed within downtown with some great views of the skyline. Hopefully in the future some new buildings will be added to the portion of the skyline which is visible from the ballpark, specifically from home plate camera. I see they are removing seats from the upper section of left field. I hope the exposed beams will look OK. I assume they are needed to maintain the structural integrity. Edited January 13, 20232 yr by LibertyBlvd
January 13, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said: Hopefully in the future some new buildings will be added to the portion of the skyline which is visible from the ballpark, specifically from home plate camera. I see they are removing seats from the upper section of left field. I hope the exposed beams will look OK. I assume they are needed to maintain the structural integrity. It will match what they are doing in right field.
January 13, 20232 yr Like everybody else, I have always absolutely hated those shipping containers. Tacky with a T. I think what they are doing is creative. That is if they have to get rid of the seats in the first place which I’d rather them not do, but that ship has sailed.
January 13, 20232 yr It is sad that they continue to reduce capacity. I think it is now the second smallest in MLB. Yet there are still lots of empty seats, especially on weekdays. Perhaps the Guardians and the business community need to be more aggressive in getting some of those seats filled. Edited January 13, 20232 yr by LibertyBlvd
January 13, 20232 yr Then they need to fix their prices? Remember how the bleacher seats used to fill every game? That's when they were ten bucks. Why is the upper deck empty but the ground level standing areas full? District tickets have been cheaper than the nosebleed seats. That's even before using the loaded value.
January 13, 20232 yr The shipping containers being phased out is great, but I wonder how often that space will be staffed. During the first month or so of the season you can only access like the first few sections in each direction and even on some weekend games concessions aren't open up top. Also per the stadium not being filled - I work across the street - I'd make my way to a LOT more games (weekday too!) if I wasn't taken to the cleaners every time I wanted to attend.
January 13, 20232 yr I hope they try to match the form and materials with the park better than their previous updates. it shouldn't feel like a renovation. that shiuld have been the lesson from the shipping containers.
January 13, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, LibertyBlvd said: It is sad that they continue to reduce capacity. I think it is now the second smallest in MLB. Yet there are still lots of empty seats, especially on weekdays. Perhaps the Guardians and the business community need to be more aggressive in getting some of those seats filled. I see maybe 3 games a year because I'm not a fan of paying $10 per coors lite and $8 per hotdog. I'd love to sit and watch a game while enjoying 2 or 3 beers since I can walk to the stadium easily. But I have little motivation to go if every outing I end up paying $15 for a ticket and $40 for concessions. I'm hoping the trend catches on in the MLB like some other stadiums offering reasonable food/drink prices. I went to an Atlanta Falcons game once and they are known for having cheap concessions and it certainly added to the experience and made it feel like my ticket was worth it.
January 13, 20232 yr $15 for a ticket seems very reasonable, especially for a competitive team. Double especially with dynamic pricing scams. These days concessions are for higher income or poor budget types.
January 13, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, TBideon said: $15 for a ticket seems very reasonable... Plus additional charge for service/convenience fee.
January 13, 20232 yr I was taken aback when I went to a game in Detroit and there were no service fees at the box office AND they still had paper tickets (enabling a healthy secondary market..but ticketmaster couldn't take their cut..) but I digress.
January 13, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, GISguy said: I was taken aback when I went to a game in Detroit and there were no service fees at the box office AND they still had paper tickets (enabling a healthy secondary market..but ticketmaster couldn't take their cut..) but I digress. You can still do that in Cleveland, no?
January 14, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: Plus additional charge for service/convenience fee. You also get a free drink/food voucher with that ticket.
January 14, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Cleburger said: You can still do that in Cleveland, no? don't think so.
January 14, 20232 yr 10 hours ago, Whipjacka said: don't think so. Well there's definitely a box office, that still has paper tickets. I am usually there to pick up comp tickets I get from visiting teams, oddly enough, so can't speak to the service fees. But in 99.9% of the venues in North America, a visit to the box office will allow you to save on the additional charges.
January 14, 20232 yr Yes there’s still a box office you can walk up to and purchase tickets. You can also bring in your own water and snacks to the stadium. You don’t have to buy overpriced concessions. This is off topic though.
January 14, 20232 yr I thought I heard ticket prices at the box office go up on the day of game, kind of a penalty for fans not purchasing tickets in advance. Getting back to the renovation, I was wondering about new building on E 9th. Is that going to be where the hotel was proposed many years ago?
January 14, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said: I thought I heard ticket prices at the box office go up on the day of game, kind of a penalty for fans not purchasing tickets in advance. Getting back to the renovation, I was wondering about new building on E 9th. Is that going to be where the hotel was proposed many years ago? No, it's going to be immediately adjacent to the stadium, in between the pedestrian ramps along East 9th.
January 15, 20232 yr I’m consistently impressed by the Guardians’ ownership in general. Progressive Field provides a wonderful gateway/welcome to the city especially when compared to what was there previously. The renovations have been pretty forward-looking and arguably necessary to maintain interest for a changing demographic in a city that has lost significant population and where dollars are finite for entertainment. As @cadmen stated upthread,, the experience of taking in a game in the heart of the city with the skyline visible just beyond the park is really perfect. (If we create something similar eventually for the Browns, It would be amazing!) I also agree that the key thing for the vitality of the area in general is the development of a family friendly ballpark village next to Progressive. Less importantly, it would sure be wonderful to see a new tower anywhere beyond the outfield! Meanwhile, here’s to another Guardians pennant run for 23…. Edited January 15, 20232 yr by CleveFan
April 24, 20232 yr Apparently the personalized pavers around the Feller statue have finally reached the end of their useful life. From a Guardians email just now:
June 30, 20231 yr Progressive Field Renovations Update The E. 9th Street Building will be in the gap between the right field ramp and stairs: Here is a view of the "gap" which will be filled with the new E. 9th building from the top of the ramp:
June 30, 20231 yr Channel 3 Story. https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/mlb/indians/cleveland-guardians-construction-progressive-field-renovations/95-b192e27b-2566-414f-9e80-7f303185f668
June 30, 20231 yr Sounds like they are turning Progressive Field into one big restaurant and bar. I hope fans will have time to actually watch the ball game. Edited June 30, 20231 yr by Htsguy
June 30, 20231 yr They are trying to attract the younger folks who want to wander around, meet their buddies, take selfies, eat/drink, etc.
June 30, 20231 yr 56 minutes ago, Htsguy said: Sounds like they are turning Progressive Field into one big restaurant and bar. I hope fans will have time to actually watch the ball game. At least they're keeping it current and adjusting to the fanbase. The Atlantic had an article (and podcast) about how Gen Z is not too fond of slow sports eg. baseball, and if this gets people in the gates then so be it. Attendance has been up with the recent changes. Also, friendly reminder that you can bring food into the ballpark. That said, $135M of this project is coming from public funds for the lease to only extend to 2035. Someone at the WSM talk yesterday made a great point about our values and how we give money to these franchises meanwhile the market needs $30M to just keep an old building standing. Maybe one day we'll realign our values, but until then woo! baseball lol
June 30, 20231 yr They are trying to attract the younger folks who want to wander around, meet their buddies, take selfies, eat/drink, etc.Multipurpose stadium, great fan experience (I think they have the best fan experience out of our big 3) but with an increased fan experience you're more willing to buy a ticket to a game. Whether you watch or not is not their concern.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk
June 30, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, GISguy said: At least they're keeping it current and adjusting to the fanbase. The Atlantic had an article (and podcast) about how Gen Z is not too fond of slow sports eg. baseball, and if this gets people in the gates then so be it. Attendance has been up with the recent changes. Also, friendly reminder that you can bring food into the ballpark. That said, $135M of this project is coming from public funds for the lease to only extend to 2035. Someone at the WSM talk yesterday made a great point about our values and how we give money to these franchises meanwhile the market needs $30M to just keep an old building standing. Maybe one day we'll realign our values, but until then woo! baseball lol It’s actually a 25 year lease. The public entities control the 2, 5 year extensions, not the team.
June 30, 20231 yr Just now, marty15 said: It’s actually a 25 year lease. The public entities control the 2, 5 year extensions, not the team. Thanks for the clarification, I was going off the Project Funding portion of the project site: The funding for the projects will be supported by the new lease agreement which extends the current lease to 2036 (with potential options to extent to 2046) and was agreed upon between the City of Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, State of Ohio, the Gateway Economic Development Corporation and the Cleveland Guardians. The estimated total of the projects will be $202.5 million with $67.5 million coming from the Cleveland Guardians. The Guardians are also responsible to provide additional funds to cover cost overages, if any, that may result from the projects.
August 1, 20231 yr Seems like they are getting started on renovations already. This is the East 9th side.
August 1, 20231 yr 8 hours ago, viscomi said: Seems like they are getting started on renovations already. This is the East 9th side. For whatever reason I'm having issues uploading my photos to Flickr - I got a few in there last week - there's markings on the one stairwell nearest to you of where they're going to (presumably) cut through for this (like it is across the way). The project area is boarded up up top (there's the one rendering we've all seen on that part) and down below within the stadium. Maybe one of these days Flickr will cooperate. Also, sorry if this is confusing, photos are worth...yayaya.
August 10, 20231 yr On 8/4/2023 at 2:13 PM, GISguy said: As promised: Sorry, but being an 80s man, I thought of this... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 28, 20231 yr Guardians start Progressive Field renovations Ken Prendergast September 28, 2023 After yesterday’s emotional send-off to Cleveland Guardians’ Manager Terry Francona at his last home game at Progressive Field, the Major League Baseball team is wasting no time building for the future. Today, the club work put renovations to the baseball stadium into fastball mode by removing merchandise, furniture, equipment and even the grass on the baseball field, according to an e-mail sent earlier this week to the city and other stakeholders. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/09/28/guardians-start-progressive-field-renovations/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 5, 20231 yr Some more info on the renovation. Yes, more cranes! https://www.news5cleveland.com/sports/cleveland-guardians/progressive-field-renovations-well-underway-one-week-after-the-conclusion-of-the-2023-season
October 5, 20231 yr I tweeted this yesterday.... https://x.com/NeotransB/status/1709253857040105846?s=20 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 6, 20231 yr Sorry if it's been stated before.. but with that parking garage coming down, I'm assuming that the left field elevated walm way will be coming down during this project? Or will it be taken down at a later time?
October 6, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, FrankRizzo said: Sorry if it's been stated before.. but with that parking garage coming down, I'm assuming that the left field elevated walm way will be coming down during this project? Or will it be taken down at a later time? While taking down some or all the garage has been discussed, I am pretty sure there are no firm plans to do so in the near future, and its demo is not part of the current Progressive Field renovation plan which will take two years to fully implement. Edited October 6, 20231 yr by Htsguy
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