Correct. At this point, the only thing happening with the Gateway East Garage is that it's being bought by the Guardians.

On the Planning Commissions Oct 20th Agenda

 

There is a plethora of signage that The Guardians are seeking to add or adjust to the ballpark.  I feel most of this is overkill and redundant.  Also the left field district and right field district signage is unimaginative and would love to see what they will look like from inside the ballpark.  

I’d be happy if they replaced the hokey baseball bat sign. Too cartoony. 

I believe the plan is to remove the curved truss sign showing #12. The renderings/presentation is confusing

 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/enwn6tzytpoqyzg/AACJWT6K-2NeNEOejUTSfk8Ea/Downtown Flats Design Review?dl=0&preview=Cleveland+Guardians+Signage.pdf&subfolder_nav_tracking=1

I was hoping they would take this opportunity to at least refine the Guardians script logo, though a general design refresh would have been welcome. Inside the stadium the graphics lean into the art deco aesthetic with the fonts used and pinstriping on the score boards. It would be more cohesive, and I think, interesting if the script was in a similar style. 

 

I was also hoping there would be some "Guardians of Baseball" statues added to the brick façade on Carnegie/Ontario.

46 minutes ago, Luke_S said:

I was hoping they would take this opportunity to at least refine the Guardians script logo, though a general design refresh would have been welcome. Inside the stadium the graphics lean into the art deco aesthetic with the fonts used and pinstriping on the score boards. It would be more cohesive, and I think, interesting if the script was in a similar style. 

 

I was also hoping there would be some "Guardians of Baseball" statues added to the brick façade on Carnegie/Ontario.

 

46 minutes ago, Luke_S said:

I was hoping they would take this opportunity to at least refine the Guardians script logo, though a general design refresh would have been welcome. Inside the stadium the graphics lean into the art deco aesthetic with the fonts used and pinstriping on the score boards. It would be more cohesive, and I think, interesting if the script was in a similar style. 

 

I was also hoping there would be some "Guardians of Baseball" statues added to the brick façade on Carnegie/Ontario.

Great Idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unless it’s been renewed and I missed it, next year is the last year of the naming agreement with Progressive. It’s only a small thing, but the physical decoupling of the Guardians logo and the sponsors name on the corner of E9th and Carnegie, makes a change up easier. Most importantly though, it does get rid of that ‘stuck in the 90s’ and yellowing logo monument. 

I also wish the large digital billboards would not be added to the exterior. I like that the upper concourse had unobstructed views of the ballparks surroundings.  

 

Progressive Insurance must be renewing their naming rights if they are going through all of this design review with their name attached to the renovations. Otherwise a huge waste of time and money

Edited October 19, 20231 yr by dave2017

15 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said:

Unless it’s been renewed and I missed it, next year is the last year of the naming agreement with Progressive. It’s only a small thing, but the physical decoupling of the Guardians logo and the sponsors name on the corner of E9th and Carnegie, makes a change up easier. Most importantly though, it does get rid of that ‘stuck in the 90s’ and yellowing logo monument. 

 

I can tell you they are talking about renewing FYI at least internally

This is what the design will be including the remaining curved truss sign.   To me it's a lot of wasted money

I hope they don’t remove the curved truss sign. That is iconic.

 

All the other enhancements are more than welcome.  The blue and red lightning is particularly classy.
 

I would put LED screens where they are proposing the player photos. That way the photos could be dynamic instead of static.

1 hour ago, ragarcia said:

I would put LED screens where they are proposing the player photos. That way the photos could be dynamic instead of static.

Good idea!  It would allow for the display of players past and present.

That red & blue lighting intensity needs to be toned down and play at a softer level. Too much color can have the effect of looking noisy rather than impressive.

Something a little more subtle will come off as higher class. it should look less a like a fairground attraction tent, a carnival ride, or <<clutching my pearls>> a minor league ballpark.

🔴🔵🔴🔵🔴🔵 This isn't a balloon to be popped, it's a significant piece of architecture in our major urban center.  It can be lighted to look stylish & fun without coming off as silly.

 

Edit: Maybe amp up this lighting during home-stands or special events. 

There is affordable technology to program brightness & color on-the-fly, and avoid the nonstop glow of a circus wagon .

Edited October 20, 20231 yr by ExPatClevGuy

 

8 hours ago, dave2017 said:

This is what the design will be including the remaining curved truss sign.   To me it's a lot of wasted money

Holy hell, WAY too much “Progressive Field” on that corner.  I think two times is the limit. If it already says “Progressive Field” twice in my direct line of sight, do I really need to be welcomed to “Progressive Field” a third time?!

6 hours ago, brtshrcegr said:

Holy hell, WAY too much “Progressive Field” on that corner.  I think two times is the limit. If it already says “Progressive Field” twice in my direct line of sight, do I really need to be welcomed to “Progressive Field” a third time?!

 

I'll hazard a guess the top sign is intended for drivers on the innerbelt, the middle one for drivers on Carnegie and Ontario, and the bottom one for pedestrians.

25 minutes ago, JohnSummit said:

 

I'll hazard a guess the top sign is intended for drivers on the innerbelt, the middle one for drivers on Carnegie and Ontario, and the bottom one for pedestrians.

 

Agreed.  I'll also guess that Progressive is paying for them and may have even specified same.

 

Just because they don't want to make their employees park downtown doesn't mean they don't want a presence there.

I would love to see how the Progressive Field logo at the top looks like from inside the ballpark.   

2 hours ago, JohnSummit said:

 

I'll hazard a guess the top sign is intended for drivers on the innerbelt, the middle one for drivers on Carnegie and Ontario, and the bottom one for pedestrians.

Fair enough.  Given only the top sign is probably visible to Innerbelt drivers, then one of the bottom two (which appear visible to both pedestrians and surface street drivers) has to go. 

They should put a few more Progressive Field signs on and around the stadium to make sure people know where the Gaurdians play.  

Edited October 21, 20231 yr by newyorker

If Progressive wants to be so ubiquitous l suggest they really put their money where their mouth is and build a hq downtown. Let them put their name on that!

some construction updates

Man that hurts.. 

 

Can we just go back to the days of the centerfield bleachers and mezzanine level? 

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Whew that is a lot of cash




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38 minutes ago, GREGinPARMA said:

Whew that is a lot of cash




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$3 billion in Cleveland dollars*

Was not aware they are going with blue seats. Always liked the green. 

 

From LanceAerial's instagram.  I agree with @freethink

 

I guess the seating will not be replaced all at once this season and the other green seats will be replaced the following year. It will be odd to see this not fully completed until 2025

Edited December 15, 20231 yr by dave2017
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Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but I really liked the green. Much classier. 

7 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said:

Not a big deal in the scheme of things, but I really liked the green. Much classier. 

I agree. It's a throwback to seats in historic stadiums.

Ugh. I liked the green. Blue just looks so cold. Gund Arena originally had blue seats which I hated. They were eventually replaced with red.

 

Edited December 15, 20231 yr by LibertyBlvd

9 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said:

Ugh. I liked the green. Blue just looks so cold. Gund Arena originally had blue seats which I hated. They were eventually replaced with red.

 

Matching colors makes it easier to hide empties on game days.  

 

AT&T Arena in San Antonio famously used black seats with various colored ones mixed in as an attempt to look like people on TV.  

 

 

If the stadium is full you won't see the seats. A seat color doesn't matter to me, the product does.

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1 minute ago, MyPhoneDead said:

If the stadium is full you won't see the seats. A seat color doesn't matter to me, the product does.

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I don't disagree.  And I'm sure the teams would much rather have a butt in every seat as well!   But with the current Cavs and Guards offerings, it's doubtful.  

I liked the multi-colored seats at the old Richfield Coliseum.  But I suppose it's easier to do all one color. I probably would have gone with red instead of blue. Oh well. 

The Cleveland Guardians released a new website to track the renovations happening at Progressive Field. Many new renderings and updated design details They have also given names to the new areas.  Check it out

 

https://guardians.fanportal-mlb.com/renovations/

https://guardians.fanportal-mlb.com/renovations/carnegie-club-&-lounges

https://guardians.fanportal-mlb.com/renovations/north-coast-social-loges-&-club

https://guardians.fanportal-mlb.com/renovations/pennant-district-groups-space

https://guardians.fanportal-mlb.com/renovations/terrace-hall-&-terrace-garden

Edited January 13, 20241 yr by dave2017

Let's hope it looks as good when completed. The renderings of the previous renovation were a little deceptive, specifically pertaining to right field upper deck.

 

 

Edited March 8, 20241 yr by dave2017

I actually don't know how I feel about the upper decks. Is that essentially the final form? If so it looks like something is missing.

45 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said:

I actually don't know how I feel about the upper decks. Is that essentially the final form? If so it looks like something is missing.

Looks a billion times better than shipping containers. I'm guessing they still have stuff to install.

27 minutes ago, Ineffable_Matt said:

Looks a billion times better than shipping containers. I'm guessing they still have stuff to install.

Agreed! I can't wait for all the seats to be blue. SRO and cheap monthly passes are the way of the future. Pack them in at a cost effective way. I prefer SRO to "good" seats (most of the time). More places we have to stand and drink, the better. 

1 hour ago, MyPhoneDead said:

I actually don't know how I feel about the upper decks. Is that essentially the final form? If so it looks like something is missing.

I hope they have more to add to it. I don't remember it looking that empty in the renderings. Looks like they just chopped off the upper deck right now lol

hopefully they didn't over promise the the renderings again

Worlc class signage is up!!

Phew, I had no idea what the place was called. Not like there wasn't a HUGE sign above it.

 

I kid, but the added PROGRESSIVE ads that were in the renderings are going to be a lot.

That upperdeck area with the increased airflow should be more environmentally friendly. Definitely saves on air conditioning.

5 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

hopefully they didn't over promise the the renderings again

 

TBH it looks like this is what we were getting into. Just looks more disappointing in reality haha

 

 

 

 

 

 

Question is: how often will it be open? The concessions upstairs are barely open as is. 

Edited March 8, 20241 yr by GISguy

28 minutes ago, GISguy said:

 

TBH it looks like this is what we were getting into. Just looks more disappointing in reality haha

 

 

 

 

 

 

Question is: how often will it be open? The concessions upstairs are barely open as is. 

I think it all depends on attendance this season. It’s disappointing these areas won’t be fully built out like the Corner (although the terrace area looks promising). But it makes sense for these areas to be flexible depending on demand. They’re really in the least desirable areas of the park and I can’t think of a better way to activate it. 
 

Obviously opening day will be a time to experience it all. I’m sure after that we’ll see quite a lull (and plenty of commentary) until the weather heats up. 

I was playing around and wondered what the outfield upper canopy were to be removed would look like.  I would just add another LED ribbon along the old line of where the canopy started and would add to more awnings over the restroom facilities to strengthen the overall look

 

Edited March 9, 20241 yr by dave2017
cleaned up rendering and added view from outside ballpark