21 hours ago, Whipjacka said:

hopefully they didn't over promise the the renderings again

Unfortunately, renderings almost always look better than the completed version.

On 3/8/2024 at 9:56 AM, downtownjoe said:

Agreed! I can't wait for all the seats to be blue. SRO and cheap monthly passes are the way of the future. Pack them in at a cost effective way. I prefer SRO to "good" seats (most of the time). More places we have to stand and drink, the better. 

 

big yes to more standing areas. lately when i go to ball games i stand and walk around as much as sit in my seat anyway, regardless of where our seats are. 👍

Not sure it is fair yet to assess whether the final product will look good or look like the renderings. Still have to finish construction, painting & graphics, FFE, & people to make it look like the rendering. Plus, a cloudy sky in the background always makes the viewer subconsciously think it looks worse. If the update photos had been taken on a sunny day with blue skies, we may not think anything of it.

 

The open space in upper right doesn't look very good IMO. Maybe they can put up banners of Feller, Boudreau, Doby, etc. in that space to honor them as they did previously when the shipping containers were there.

 

Edited March 16, 20241 yr by LibertyBlvd

1 hour ago, LibertyBlvd said:

The open space in upper right doesn't look very good IMO. Maybe they can put up banners of Feller, Boudreau, Doby, etc. in that space to honor them as they did previously when the shipping containers were there.

 

Good idea!

I think the upper deck portion looks quite a bit better than what was feared.

I am (shockingly) happy with the blue seats. I initially thought they'd look odd and be too pronounced but they honestly look great. I am still unsure why this decision was made. What was wrong with the existing seats? They were functional, looked great, and served their purpose. Still seems like an unnecessary cost when there are plenty of other areas that will still need attention. 

Random question. Does anyone know what happens to the old seats? I hope they are repurposed (donated), and not thrown in a landfill. 

1 hour ago, OHinMD said:

I am (shockingly) happy with the blue seats. I initially thought they'd look odd and be too pronounced but they honestly look great. I am still unsure why this decision was made. What was wrong with the existing seats? They were functional, looked great, and served their purpose. Still seems like an unnecessary cost when there are plenty of other areas that will still need attention. 

They look better on TV.  Blend in with Guardians gear.  

I believe the decision to change the seat color was partially due to the lifespan of the green seats. They are showing their wear and tear. When they had the opportunity for replacement they thought why not make the change to the match the team colors.  As for the green seats, many were moved to the upper right to add back the seats that the shipping containers occupied.

9 hours ago, OHinMD said:

I am (shockingly) happy with the blue seats. I initially thought they'd look odd and be too pronounced but they honestly look great. I am still unsure why this decision was made. What was wrong with the existing seats? They were functional, looked great, and served their purpose. Still seems like an unnecessary cost when there are plenty of other areas that will still need attention. 

Random question. Does anyone know what happens to the old seats? I hope they are repurposed (donated), and not thrown in a landfill. 

The old seats are sitting in storage. Some were destroyed, but based on my tour last week, the majority are still in good shape

I thought the green seats looked OK - they blended in with the grass on the field. It's possible some of the new seats will be padded, at least those in the pricier sections.  The team sent me a survey last year asking lots of questions about the seats and I remember there were a few about whether or not the seats should be padded.

 

Edited March 19, 20241 yr by LibertyBlvd

There are actually a lot of blue padded seats, it looked like the first 10 rows from dugout to dugout were all padded. 

 

How it looks at night

Okay I mean... two different colored seats looks putrid... 

Sign looks good. The "C" is great too. Does anyone have those renderings where they also wanted to light up the outside of the upper decks with red/blue? 

Those looked awesome and hope that is still in the plans. Would look kickass next to Rocket Mortgage with their curtain glass wall lit at night.

On 3/19/2024 at 10:07 AM, zbaris87 said:

There are actually a lot of blue padded seats, it looked like the first 10 rows from dugout to dugout were all padded.

 

The problem that I foresee is padded seats retaining water.... you won't be able to just wipe them dry like the plastic seats.

^ I’m sure they’ve thought of that. They’ll be vinyl-coated or something like that. There’s plenty of other outdoor stadiums in the world with padded seats. 

 

3 hours ago, dave2017 said:

Roger that @dave2017

Perhaps the real reason for the installation of blue seats is to match all the Progressive signage.

17 minutes ago, LibertyBlvd said:

Perhaps the real reason for the installation of blue seats is to match all the Progressive signage.

 

14 hours ago, dave2017 said:

 

But, the singage does get progressively larger!

1 hour ago, dski44 said:

 

But, the singage does get progressively larger!

You have to be able to see it from the Executive Suite in Mayfield Heights! 😐

DRONE OHIO's Facebook page has some amazing photographs of the renovation progress!  It appears they are adding pennant style banners in the upper right field area. They appear to be attached to the back side of the light towers.  I am surprised they went with metal siding that is reminiscent of the shipping containers on the upper deck buildings. They renovations are an improvement over the last renovation but these just look like additions/subtractions to a once great ballpark. Enjoy the link. 

 

https://www.facebook.com/100044113059848/posts/960732425407184/?paipv=0&eav=Afa3jpBaVHFg0ggU5ZtYU2xMzs9qcW5YkL5W97S8isK-0xp-wuQYwpSApKvbgLDL7xM&_rdr

 

 

Edited March 26, 20241 yr by dave2017

 

Maybe they will be removing the smaller one below.

3 hours ago, LibertyBlvd said:

Maybe they will be removing the smaller one below.

 

lol nope, so now there's three progressive signs at the entrance. 

 

Edit: this is from design review presentation/what was approved

Edited March 28, 20241 yr by GISguy

I hope Progressive ponied up more money for the additional signage.

Branding is one thing, but wow.  I was prepared to be disappointed when I saw the initial garish red & blue circus-lighting plan. 

Still... yeesh, look at what has happened to our once proud and regal looking MLB stadium!

Just about everything in this image looks like it was conceived by design school sophomores while the art professor was on a cigarette break.

 

1. What company was the Guardians' professional design consultant on this project? Have they only done work for minor league parks, cause that's what this now looks like

2. How much utility does Progressive Insurance get from this sloppily imperfect billboard? I'd say the look of the finished product devalues their corporate image. 

 

😬😬😬😬😬

Edited March 28, 20241 yr by ExPatClevGuy

^ "Progressive" haphazardly slapped over the Jacobs logo....GUARdians a lazy makeover of INdians font logo lol.

 

The Dolans have absolutely no taste whatsoever. 

And the GUARdians logo on the uniforms looks very minor league-ish.  Ugh.

At least they spelled it correctly. 

Actually you got to hand it to the Dolans and their clever preservation of 'DIANS in the name.

 

So they add GUAR. What is GUAR?

 

a leguminous Indian plant, grown as a fodder crop and for the gum obtained from its seeds 

 

See what they did there? Those sly foxes!  

And they are a fodder crop for other teams. Dolan plants them, grows them and just when they start to peak he sells them.

4 hours ago, ExPatClevGuy said:

"Branding is one thing, but wow.  I was prepared to be disappointed when I saw the initial garish red & blue circus-lighting plan." 

 

 

Yeah it reminds me of the lighting scheme on most K&D buildings.  Taste isn't their strong point either.   

 

Edited March 28, 20241 yr by willyboy

Lanceaerial's instagram post show the led lighting being tested on the exterior!  It's a bit garish when running through multiple colors . I don't mind the solid blue

https://www.instagram.com/p/C5FFuGDp_z6/

Edited March 29, 20241 yr by dave2017
added photo

Wow,  what's all this bashing of the Guardians, on Opening Day no less?!

 

Please return to our regularly scheduled vitriol towards the Browns 😉

Edited March 29, 20241 yr by DO_Summers

It's not bashing. It's sharing updates that were made and what to expect when you see Progressive Field for this season. I'm excited to see the ballpark renovations that have been implemented and think many items are a great solution.  I can't wait for the second phase to be completed for the 2025 season!

Edited March 29, 20241 yr by dave2017

Today... better get used to it

Nice to see Progressive finally decided to move back downtown. 

On 3/28/2024 at 9:42 AM, GISguy said:

 

lol nope, so now there's three progressive signs at the entrance. 

 

Edit: this is from design review presentation/what was approved

This reminds me of the office episode, when Bob Vance repeats what he does over and over again.

Edited March 30, 20241 yr by cle_guy90

IMO...it would look so better and make more sense that if they truly needed the large Progressive sign on the top; that they move the home base sign upwards, get ride of "progressive field on it, make the Guardians logo larger and centered on home base with the word "baseball" underneath . Maybe even add "home of" under the large progressive sign. Then keep "Welcome to Progressive Field" at the entrance. 

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Edited March 30, 20241 yr by dave2017

I thought maybe those angled beams might have posed some restrictions on what they could put there, but after looking at Coors field and their two tiers of standing areas with the same type of supports in the way, it looks like this was just value engineered.

Welp, I guess it's a little better than the shipping containers, but IMO still not a good look.

^ are those bathrooms on the field facing side? 🙀😂

All the Progressive Filed signage looks absolutely horrible.  The stadium was a classy top three when it opened and not close to that any longer.  

1 hour ago, newyorker said:

All the Progressive Filed signage looks absolutely horrible.  The stadium was a classy top three when it opened and not close to that any longer.  

100% agreed!  I understand the need for Progressive to have the benefits for naming rights. I just don't need multiple, repetitive signage on every free wall space.  The new Cleveland Guardian font is not the best design choice. The " Pennant District" shows that.    I would have loved all the additional monetary funds spent on Progressive Field signage and seat color changes had gone for upgraded designs that didn't feel like value engineered add ons. I just feel we look at these adjustments and remember how great this park was and nobody states this as an improvement over what we had prior to 2014  All of the renovations that the Dolan's have made are questionable.  I will be interested how it is perceived from the public once the season begins

 

Does anyone know why Manica replaced NBBJ as the architect?  NBBJ's proposed upgrades/design showed an integrated design that really worked for the entire upper deck. was it because the design was too expensive and if so why didn't they figure that out prior to presentation to us. Manica's design, while ok, just looks value engineered.

Edited March 31, 20241 yr by dave2017

From the Ohio City forum:

3 hours ago, ArtMasterCLE said:

Sasaki also did the project planning for Gateway in the early 1990’s, the eventual home of Jacobs Field and Gund Arena.

Does anyone have a copy of the original site plans for Gateway -- how closely do they match what was built, and are there elements omitted so far that should be revisited and added?