May 17, 20187 yr Nice that they have already got a extension of the deadline to start construction in relation to the Ohio historic tax-credit program: The Ohio Development Services Agency, which oversees the historic tax-credit program, had warned Hudson that the state might rescind the award if the company didn't show that the 925 revamp had some momentum. A department spokeswoman said officials recently met with the project team and extended the deadline to start construction to Sept. 1, 2019. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/05/millennia_buys_downtown_clevel.html
May 22, 20187 yr Aerial Agents @aerialagents 22m22 minutes ago More The LARGEST bank lobby in the world is in Cleveland, Ohio and it has a new owner. @MillenniaCo has purchased this historic building on the corner of E.9th and Euclid in a $40 Million deal. If this was built in the same form and fashion today, it would cost $2 Billion. FULL VIDEO: "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 22, 20187 yr It’s pretty amazing when you can fly a drone and do those kind of maneuvers INSIDE a building and still have plenty of room. Cool stuff!
May 23, 20187 yr Anyone else see the future Skylift terminal on the roof? Ha! You know what that was for, right? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 23, 20187 yr Anyone else see the future Skylift terminal on the roof? Ha! You know what that was for, right? I do :-)
May 23, 20187 yr Anyone else see the future Skylift terminal on the roof? Ha! You know what that was for, right? I do not, PLEASEEEEE enlighten
May 23, 20187 yr Anyone else see the future Skylift terminal on the roof? Ha! You know what that was for, right? I do not, PLEASEEEEE enlighten The building features a rooftop ticket lobby and waiting room designed for dirigible flights to New York and Chicago; the roof was never utilized because of the high winds from Lake Erie.[4] https://wikivisually.com/wiki/The_925_Building
May 23, 20187 yr ^The space was used as a restaurant - the most recent use was Sammy's at the Metropolitan. I always had a soft spot for the place as that's where I inked my book deal back in 2001 :) This flickr album has some good shots: https://www.flickr.com/photos/heidzillas/sets/72157624252534252/ clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 23, 20187 yr The building features a rooftop ticket lobby and waiting room designed for dirigible flights to New York and Chicago; the roof was never utilized because of the high winds from Lake Erie.[4] https://wikivisually.com/wiki/The_925_Building We have a winner! But I liked his photo, posted earlier, better. YABO713[/member] "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 23, 20187 yr Anyone else see the future Skylift terminal on the roof? Ha! You know what that was for, right? I do not, PLEASEEEEE enlighten The building features a rooftop ticket lobby and waiting room designed for dirigible flights to New York and Chicago; the roof was never utilized because of the high winds from Lake Erie.[4] https://wikivisually.com/wiki/The_925_Building The "high winds" myth seems to be everywhere, including local media outlets of all stripes, but high winds were not the reason service never began upstairs at the Union Trust building. Rather, the GENERAL AIR SERVICE CORPORATION, begun by Clevelander Benedict Crowell and other national and local money men (like John Penton, The Hannas, Squire, Chester Bolton and more) went bankrupt just prior to, or shortly after, the Union Trust Bank Building opening for business in 1924. In fact, there's plenty of intrigue about the German Government suing Zeppelin for selling German national defense secrets to General Air Service Corp in the 1920s. This Front Page New York Times article from Feb 25, 1922 covers some of the development plans for the organization. - https://search.proquest.com/docview/99590849/fulltextPDF/6AF1B46D333B4D90PQ/6?accountid=46320 My grandfather and father both had offices in the Huntington (Union Commerce) Building for many years. My grandfather would attend the Midday Club in the old airship waiting room with my grandmother, and when I was old enough I would join my dad there for breakfast at Sammy's Metro Club. - My dad once suggested I get together with my pals and submit a contract proposal to bldg manager Hines Interests to disassemble a large iron superstructure on the roof. I suspect it was a water tower though, and not a mooring post for dirigibles. Here's some background published in 1922 on the company that tried to start airship service in New York, Cleveland, Chicago, and other US Cities; with an eye on future international service - https://tinyurl.com/y9uuoc4m
May 23, 20187 yr Nice that they have already got a extension of the deadline to start construction in relation to the Ohio historic tax-credit program: The Ohio Development Services Agency, which oversees the historic tax-credit program, had warned Hudson that the state might rescind the award if the company didn't show that the 925 revamp had some momentum. A department spokeswoman said officials recently met with the project team and extended the deadline to start construction to Sept. 1, 2019. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/05/millennia_buys_downtown_clevel.html Gotta admit, those Hudson folks at least have a cool website. https://www.hudsonholdings.com/
May 25, 20187 yr What are some buildings similar to 925 Euclid around the country that have been successfully adapted for a few different use types?
May 25, 20187 yr What are some buildings similar to 925 Euclid around the country that have been successfully adapted for a few different use types? Considering that this was the largest office building in the world until Chicago's Merchandise Mart opened a decade later, there aren't many parallels. But even MM, which was a wholesale marketplace, has been renovated with some retail uses, food hall, plus restaurants and offices for general leasing. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 25, 20187 yr Hudson Holdings has a building in St Louis called the Railway Exchange that is in many ways similar to 925 Euclid. It was built about 8 years before 925 Euclid and has 1.2 million square feet of space. It looks like it is going to be redeveloped in a similar manner too. https://www.hudsonholdings.com/railway-exchange
July 17, 20186 yr Channel 19 Story. http://www.cleveland19.com/story/38666102/new-life-announced-in-cleveland-for-one-of-the-biggest-banking-halls-in-the-country
July 18, 20186 yr I photographed a wedding reception here last month. I was talking with someone who knows the new buyer and they mentioned something about the project manager wishing to get rid of some of the columns... I'll be extremely pissed if this is true.
July 18, 20186 yr I photographed a wedding reception here last month. I was talking with someone who knows the new buyer and they mentioned something about the project manager wishing to get rid of some of the columns... I'll be extremely pissed if this is true. Since they're using historic tax credits, would that even be allowed? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 18, 20186 yr Sounds like he’s wishing, not trying to. The columns hold up the entire 21 story structure. They aren’t going anywhere
July 18, 20186 yr Sounds like he’s wishing, not trying to. The columns hold up the entire 21 story structure. They aren’t going anywhere You can't blame a guy for wanting a nice, open floor plan.
August 19, 20186 yr http://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/sale-suites-eyed-union-trust-space For-sale suites eyed for Union Trust space In the hunt for uses to occupy the massive Union Trust office building at 925 Euclid Ave., real estate owner and developer Frank Sinito's Millennia Cos. is contemplating a run at the missing link in downtown Cleveland's revival: condominiums. A proposal to include 60 luxury condominiums is included in an investment summary that Millennia Housing Capital Ltd., Sinito's finance-raising subsidiary, is sharing with prospective investors for the proposed $350 million project.
August 19, 20186 yr Marketing. Like selling "spring water" from a tap. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 19, 20186 yr Everything is advertised as “luxury” especially downtown apartments. I think every building pretty much does this. Remember though that they also plan to put in affordable units similar to what they put in the Swetland building (part of the 9)
August 19, 20186 yr ^as long as those "affordable" units are for-sale..... but they will probably be rental units.
August 20, 20186 yr Marketing. Like selling "spring water" from a tap. Exactly. Everything new is termed "Luxury," even if the finishes and amenities are what you would expect in even "basic" apartments. It makes it sound more appealing.
October 27, 20186 yr Is it me or do a lot of long-planned projects seem to be moving forward faster now? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 27, 20186 yr ^^And with that, outside of a couple surface lots and garages, I dare you to find a building that requires new development on Euclid between Public Square and the freeway...
October 27, 20186 yr ...honestly that’s a tough task in all of downtown (innerbelt-lake-river perimeter) west of E13th. Some of the biggest clusters may only be: + Stark’s buildings at E4th and Prospect (not sure what the deal is here, seems like a no brainer set of rehabs) + Building at E6th and St. Clair (though I think some ground level activity is happening) + Several buildings along Old River Road + Everything on Bolivar and south Obviously new construction is the next frontier to keep residential growth plugging along.
October 27, 20186 yr Someday, the City Club, the Superior Building, and the Rock may be converted. Among them, my guess would be the Rock. It's got simple floor layouts and has low office occupancy. Superior is probably the nicest, cheap Class C office building and City Club the most specialized, what with all the wholesale jewelers in there and all of their security features (like man-traps, shatter-proof windows, etc). But I would add that the next building to become available will be nearly 1 million square feet -- the Landmark Office Building. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 27, 20186 yr Just now, cadmen said: Dumb question: What is the Rock building? I'm guessing the Rockefeller building in the Warehouse District.
October 27, 20186 yr 2 hours ago, KJP said: But I would add that the next building to become available will be nearly 1 million square feet -- the Landmark Office Building. ...is this a hint ?
November 3, 20186 yr On 10/27/2018 at 12:06 PM, KJP said: Someday, the City Club, the Superior Building, and the Rock may be converted. Among them, my guess would be the Rock. It's got simple floor layouts and has low office occupancy. Superior is probably the nicest, cheap Class C office building and City Club the most specialized, what with all the wholesale jewelers in there and all of their security features (like man-traps, shatter-proof windows, etc). But I would add that the next building to become available will be nearly 1 million square feet -- the Landmark Office Building. Would love to see the City Club get a face lift. The exterior is so filthy that it takes much away from The Schofield being joined at the hip as it is. It has such great potential!
November 11, 20186 yr This makes me very sad. My grandfather was a vice president for Union Commerce Bank and my father's main business office was upstairs in the Huntington building. In college I worked as a teller for Huntington Bank, in the grand vaulted banking room - upstairs from what I always thought was the very classy Rickey C. Tanno Jewelry store. My dad bought all his suits from Joseph Scafidi in the Huntington Arcade, and much of my mother's jewelry was purchased or repaired at Tanno's. I honestly didn't think they were still down there; across from the old Lemon Tree cafeteria and the Guv'nor Pub retaurant. In fact I've been away so long, I didn't consider that any parts of 925 were still accessible. I was never up to the roof when it was known as the Mid Day Club, but did have the chance when it was reopened as Sammy's Metropolitan Club in the 1990s. The Union Commerce Bank building is so excellently old school in the most essential ways, with a six-chair shoe shine stand; a well stocked magazine and tobacconist kiosk built into the foyer; the polished brass safety deposit room; a full service US Post Office; and so many places that seemed to be frozen in the 1930-1950s. I hate to think of that place without Tanno's. All things must change, but the arcade downstairs was perhaps one of the last remaining vestiges of Cleveland when it was at the top of it's game and a headquarters city of the highest caliber. - Through it all was Tanno's. Rickey C. Tanno jewelry shop to close as Union Trust Building project looms (Crains)https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/rickey-c-tanno-jewelry-shop-close-union-trust-building-project-looms Edited November 12, 20186 yr by ExPatClevGuy typos
November 12, 20186 yr I hope this article results in somebody at Millennium contacting Tanno's to try and negotiate a new lease when the renovations are completed. It sounds like they would like to return to the arcade and they are a class operation and would benefit a corner that has lose so much retail over the years. I had an office in the Huntington Building and had my shirts made at Joseph Scarfidi for years. Even when I had an office in buildings quite a distance from the Huntington I would always take time off during the day and go back and have my shoes shine in that great old shoe shine stand. I always remembered how easy it was to catch a cab in front of the building back in the day since there were always 3-4 taxis lined up in front on Euclid due to all the law and accounting firms in the building.
November 14, 20186 yr The building lobby (corridors, not just the banking hall) is now closed to all 'cut through' foot traffic. Glad to see them getting ready for redevelopment but sad to lose a place to duck out of bad weather. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
November 14, 20186 yr 16 minutes ago, MayDay said: The building lobby (corridors, not just the banking hall) is now closed to all 'cut through' foot traffic. Glad to see them getting ready for redevelopment but sad to lose a place to duck out of bad weather. I used to love cutting through the basement corridor, then the tunnel under Chester in the Winter. Made those lunch runs in sub 20 degree days a lot more bearable!
November 14, 20186 yr On 11/11/2018 at 4:13 PM, ExPatClevGuy said: This makes me very sad. My grandfather was a vice president for Union Commerce Bank and my father's main business office was upstairs in the Huntington building. In college I worked as a teller for Huntington Bank, in the grand vaulted banking room - upstairs from what I always thought was the very classy Rickey C. Tanno Jewelry store. My dad bought all his suits from Joseph Scafidi in the Huntington Arcade, and much of my mother's jewelry was purchased or repaired at Tanno's. I honestly didn't think they were still down there; across from the old Lemon Tree cafeteria and the Guv'nor Pub retaurant. In fact I've been away so long, I didn't consider that any parts of 925 were still accessible. I was never up to the roof when it was known as the Mid Day Club, but did have the chance when it was reopened as Sammy's Metropolitan Club in the 1990s. The Union Commerce Bank building is so excellently old school in the most essential ways, with a six-chair shoe shine stand; a well stocked magazine and tobacconist kiosk built into the foyer; the polished brass safety deposit room; a full service US Post Office; and so many places that seemed to be frozen in the 1930-1950s. I hate to think of that place without Tanno's. All things must change, but the arcade downstairs was perhaps one of the last remaining vestiges of Cleveland when it was at the top of it's game and a headquarters city of the highest caliber. - Through it all was Tanno's. Rickey C. Tanno jewelry shop to close as Union Trust Building project looms (Crains)https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/rickey-c-tanno-jewelry-shop-close-union-trust-building-project-looms Does anyone have, or know where i can find pictures of the Union Trust arcade? I never knew it existed!
November 15, 20186 yr It's not really an arcade like the others - with a high ceiling. It is (was?) just a hallway with shops. When I worked there in the early 80's there was a Burrows, Guvernor's Pub, a coffee shop, a newsstand, shoe shine stand, the jewelry store above and Post Office that I can remember, plus others. Then a tunnel under Chester took you to the cafeteria (Forum?) that was in the basement of the Ohio Savings Plaza.
November 15, 20186 yr I may have taken pictures down there. I'll have to look for them. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 15, 20186 yr I think the Forum cafeteria was on Euclid Ave. and the building it was in was torn down when the BP building was constructed.
November 18, 20186 yr The Colonnade Cafeteria was in the basement of the Ohio Savings Plaza on E 9th at some point. [Corrected: I wrongly remembered it as The Forum] When I worked at Huntington, there was a tunnel under Chester Ave that connected to the Colonnade dining hall at the basement level, and to the Ohio Savings Garage, which was used jointly by workers in both buildings. These images of the arcade are screenshots from the website of the Ohio Development Services Agency (ODSA.) Since it's a govt agency, I can presume they are in the public domain and are free to share. It's exactly as I remember it - minus any signs of life, or the many tenants. - The last image (construction) was a new one for me, so I dropped it in here just for fun. Post Office windows near the Chester Avenue side, close to Perk Plaza (formerly called Chester Commons) Stairs from the arcade up to Chester Avenue near E 9th. Also, access to the main banking hall during business hours. Shops, and the American Express Travel office Convenience Store and the former Lemon tree cafe on the left. Location of Joseph Scafidi Custom Tailors on the right. Entrances to the shoe shine stand, florist shop, Guv'nor Pub, and safety deposit room obscured by the first column Beyond all are elevators & stairs that take you up the Euclid Ave side of the building. To the left of the sundries shop are freight elevators and a passage out to the large alley that runs out behind the Huntington Bldg & John Hartness Brown Bldg. 1926 Photo-op for your your great grandpa's new Buick Edited November 18, 20186 yr by ExPatClevGuy Grammar/Typos & incorrect data
November 18, 20186 yr ^Wasn't the cafeteria in the basement of the Ohio Savings Building called the Collonade? I believe there was also a location in the Leader Building.
November 18, 20186 yr Hah, You're right! Thanks - fixed it. I must have misremembered it using the wrong allusion to the ancient world. Edited November 18, 20186 yr by ExPatClevGuy
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