14 hours ago, Terdolph said:

What "prep work"? 

 

As far as I know nothing has been done.

They put a dumpster on Chester with a Gilbane and Marous banner on it. “Prep”.  Maybe a half assed effort to lobby to keep the tax credit secure.

Edited September 19, 20195 yr by marty15

On 9/17/2019 at 12:44 PM, marty15 said:

Statler is 99% completed. Talks of the Marriott getting a full reno soon. 1st phase just included 1st floor lobby/restaurant/etc. The rooms and meeting space/banquet rooms weren’t included.

 

On 9/17/2019 at 12:44 PM, marty15 said:

Statler is 99% completed. Talks of the Marriott getting a full reno soon. 1st phase just included 1st floor lobby/restaurant/etc. The rooms and meeting space/banquet rooms weren’t included.

They'd better paint the rest of the Statler windows that glorious blue or else....  Someone told me they will but so far nothing, and it sure doesn't look like a first-rate, quality renovation with the windows the two very different colors (including the limestone highest floors).  They need to be painted anyway! 

38 minutes ago, lafont said:

 

They'd better paint the rest of the Statler windows that glorious blue or else....  Someone told me they will but so far nothing, and it sure doesn't look like a first-rate, quality renovation with the windows the two very different colors (including the limestone highest floors).  They need to be painted anyway! 

They should be painted based on the initial plans I believe.

On 9/18/2019 at 6:16 PM, WindyBuckeye said:

I know a listing agent has been picked and some site prep was started but maybe waiting on their other projects to wrap up first.

This is all so disappointing.  I had thought interior work was going on all these months. The corridors have been closed off so long and Rickey Tanno's has been gone for so long.  I assume the salon has too.

Edited September 27, 20195 yr by lafont

On 9/24/2019 at 8:53 AM, WindyBuckeye said:

They should be painted based on the initial plans I believe.

I'm thinking they'll try to get away with not painting the remainder of the windows.  Why would they have stopped in mid-summer?  However, the two colors, with the old and discolored brown paint, certainly distract from any first-class renovation.  Meanwhile, the deep blue with gold highlights on East Twelfth is gorgeous....

CRAIN'S - More workforce housing rather than office - by a large measure too.

https://www.crainscleveland.com/real-estate/centennials-office-component-might-shrink

 

Edited September 29, 20195 yr by ExPatClevGuy
Clarity / Fix link / Add photo from article

I still believe this should have been named The Corinthian, based on the design of the building.

Another downsize, and nothing even started yet. Where have we seen this before?

^The building is still the same size. The only thing that is (reportedly) changing is the office / housing mix. Plans evolve. 

1 hour ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

Another downsize, and nothing even started yet. Where have we seen this before?

 

This isn't the same as a new build. 

 

I read this as the developers want to decrease initially planned amount of office space and increase the amount/square footage of residential space.

Edited September 29, 20195 yr by MyTwoSense
To save the forum from reading ? ?

Don't ask him to expand his comment, please.  Does anyone really want to hear it?

1 hour ago, MyTwoSense said:

I still believe this should have been named The Corinthian, based on the design of the building.

 

Agree that that is a far more interesting name, although the style is more accurately Ionic, but The Ionic is a bit of an awkward name. 

9 minutes ago, X said:

Don't ask him to expand his comment, please.  Does anyone really want to hear it?

To me, the columns at the base of the building appear to be Ionic, not Corinthian, although the latter style title sounds classier, lol.

7 hours ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

Another downsize, and nothing even started yet. Where have we seen this before?

 

Why? Are they demolishing part of the building? 

1 hour ago, urb-a-saurus said:

To me, the columns at the base of the building appear to be Ionic, not Corinthian, although the latter style title sounds classier, lol.

The bank lobby columns are Corinthian (I'm saying that with my Spanish accent). ? 

Yeah, inside is definitely Corinthian, outside columns Ionic. Corinthionic it is!

10 hours ago, marty15 said:

Yeah, inside is definitely Corinthian, outside columns Ionic. Corinthionic it is!

 

Lawd!  You kids.

22 hours ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said:

Another downsize, and nothing even started yet. Where have we seen this before?

Another poor post, and nothing valuable even stated yet. Where have we seen this before?

14 hours ago, MyTwoSense said:

The bank lobby columns are Corinthian (I'm saying that with my Spanish accent). ? 

16 hours ago, MyTwoSense said:

The bank lobby columns are Corinthian (I'm saying that with my Spanish accent). ? 

Damn @freefourur beat me to it

 

Edited September 30, 20195 yr by surfohio

5 hours ago, surfohio said:

Damn @freefourur beat me to it

 

I'm glad you kids "got it"

Survey crew on site today. They appear to be looking at the exterior and may be working interior as well, but that's out of sight. FWIW 

1 minute ago, KJP said:

Survey crew on site today. They appear to be looking at the exterior and may be working interior as well, but that's out of sight. FWIW 

I think the story of Millennia downsizing the office component means this building is about to start. Millennia has been super successful with residential and they know that market well. I think with their other projects wrapping up, it is time to tackle this last big empty building on Euclid.

Inside the construction of Union Trust Bank, East 9th St. & Euclid Ave., 1922

 

 

Does anyone recall the Guvnor's Pub, that used to be on the lower level of the East Ninth side of the building?  My dining room fixture is said to have been from there, and I haven't found any useful photos of the restaurant's interior.

On 10/3/2019 at 9:56 PM, freethink said:

Inside the construction of Union Trust Bank, East 9th St. & Euclid Ave., 1922

 

 

Great pic!

 

Thats the nice thing about CLEVELAND, because back in the day we was the 5th LARGEST CITY and later in 1950 we had a population around 900,000 people. 

 

And because of that LEGACY we have such great institutions like ART MUSEUM, WRHS, CLEVELAND ORCHESTRAL, METROPARKS, ect.

 

Not to mention the great architecture like 925/UNION TRUST BUILDING, TERMINAL TOWER, PLAYHOUSE SQUARE THEATRES, and many others!

 

And because we have SAVED MANY OF THESE GREAT BUILDINGS, we our now rebuilding CLEVELAND one project at a time!

 

And combined with all of the great NEW CONSTRUCTION, it is one of the reasons most of the new/renovated apartment complexes have been completed in the Downtown Neighborhoods over the past couple of decades!

 

Bingo Larry!

 

You hit the nail on the head. This is what makes Cleveland very unique; even compared to its contemporaries back in the day; Minneapolis, Detroit, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Baltimore or Kansas City.

 

There are few cities, the size of Cleveland with as many cultural and institutional treasures; each with it's own phenomenal history. In fact, except for NYC, most of today's ten largest cities can only dream of having the assets a city the size of Cleveland came to acquire during its heyday.

 

Treasure them, protect them and support them to ensure that all of Cleveland's citizens can enjoy them for centuries to come.

Edited October 5, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

16 hours ago, lafont said:

Does anyone recall the Guvnor's Pub, that used to be on the lower level of the East Ninth side of the building?  My dining room fixture is said to have been from there, and I haven't found any useful photos of the restaurant's interior.

Dang if I can't find a single image of the Guv'nor Pub in any database I've checked, but here are some employment ads from the PD in 1973 & 1991.

I don't think there are any stones left to turn over looking for remembrances of that place.  It's remarkable nobody ever appears to have written a review of the place, though it won a Best Chili award once in the annual Scene Magazine reader's poll. ?

5 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said:

Bingo Larry!

 

You hit the nail on the head. This is what makes Cleveland very unique; even compared to its contemporaries back in the day; Minneapolis, Detroit, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Baltimore or Kansas City.

 

There are few cities, the size of Cleveland with as many cultural and institutional treasures; each with it's own phenomenal history. In fact, except for NYC, most of today's ten largest cities can only dream of having the assets a city the size of Cleveland came to acquire during its heyday.

 

Treasure them, protect them and support them to ensure that all of Cleveland's citizens can enjoy them for centuries to come.

 

Thanks Frmr CLEder!

 

A city with a GREAT LEGACY like CLEVELAND is like a older fixer upper with GREAT BONES!!

 

IF you do a proper renovation and upgrade the systems then you will have a valuable asset to pass on to the next generation!!

 

Now back to your regular programming...

 

The 925 Building with approximately

1.3 million sq. ft. will really add new life and active uses to EAST 9 & EUCLID with many new apartments, offices, restaurants, retail,  and with one of the LARGEST BANK LOBBIES  in the country!

 

Can't wait....

In that same lunch meeting last week in which I mentioned the Cross Country Mortgage HQ move, there was a mentioning of a high profile, historic building in CLE as an upcoming project to soon be announced.  I probed the guy by saying is it by chance on Euclid and 9th Street?  He said I can't confirm nor deny that, but it will be announced soon.  I believe this outfit will be a partner with Millennia on this, which I would say is a very promising thing given their track record.  Couple his comment with the fact that the $25m credit expires at the end of the year, I would expect an announcement any day or week now.  

6 minutes ago, RE Developer In Training said:

In that same lunch meeting last week in which I mentioned the Cross Country Mortgage HQ move, there was a mentioning of a high profile, historic building in CLE as an upcoming project to soon be announced.  I probed the guy by saying is it by chance on Euclid and 9th Street?  He said I can't confirm nor deny that, but it will be announced soon.  I believe this outfit will be a partner with Millennia on this, which I would say is a very promising thing given their track record.  Couple his comment with the fact that the $25m credit expires at the end of the year, I would expect an announcement any day or week now.  

LETS GO!

On 10/4/2019 at 7:46 PM, lafont said:

Does anyone recall the Guvnor's Pub, that used to be on the lower level of the East Ninth side of the building?  My dining room fixture is said to have been from there, and I haven't found any useful photos of the restaurant's interior.

Yes I do. They had excellent burgers.

On 10/5/2019 at 1:12 PM, Larry1962 said:

 

Thanks Frmr CLEder!

 

A city with a GREAT LEGACY like CLEVELAND is like a older fixer upper with GREAT BONES!!

 

IF you do a proper renovation and upgrade the systems then you will have a valuable asset to pass on to the next generation!!

 

Now back to your regular programming...

 

The 925 Building with approximately

1.3 million sq. ft. will really add new life and active uses to EAST 9 & EUCLID with many new apartments, offices, restaurants, retail,  and with one of the LARGEST BANK LOBBIES  in the country!

 

Can't wait....

Yes, part of this has to do when each city has grown the most.  For example Cleveland was larger than Atlanta, the big Texas cities, Denver, Toronto, or Seattle until recent decades, and it shows.  It was larger than Detroit until the 1910s and smaller than Cincinnati until the 1890s.   Youngstown used to be larger than Akron, and I think that's reflected in Youngstown's having a better art muséum.  Of course, there are exceptions.

Edited October 11, 20195 yr by lafont

Cleveland has had, and continues to have one of the world's greatest chamber orchestras and art museums.  It is also one of only two US cities to have a large urban theater complex.

 

Finally, Cleveland has one of the top Medical facilities in the world.  Only one other US city can make these claims, and it's more than 20 times the size. We all know which city that is.

Edited October 11, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

44 minutes ago, Frmr CLEder said:

Cleveland has had, and continues to have one of the world's greatest chamber orchestras and art museums.  It is also one of only two US cities to have a large urban theater complex.

 

Only one other US city can make these claims and we know which city that is.

Referenced all of that as well as our amazing restaurants and breweries when on a recent trip my Alamo rent-a-car rep said “never been to Cleveland but have heard great things.  Sell me on visiting.”

 

Don’t know if he’ll visit or not but national perception has changed a lot over the last decade.  (Trip was to LA)

15 hours ago, Sapper Daddy said:

Referenced all of that as well as our amazing restaurants and breweries when on a recent trip my Alamo rent-a-car rep said “never been to Cleveland but have heard great things.  Sell me on visiting.”

 

Don’t know if he’ll visit or not but national perception has changed a lot over the last decade.  (Trip was to LA)

It's marketing.

 

The Cleveland Orchestra and the Cleveland Museum of Art have been ranked as two of the world's best (not just the US's best) for many decades.  Playhouse Square has reserved its place since its inception and subsequent renovation.

 

The 925 is another classic and unique treasure that I hope can be preserved. 

Edited October 12, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

45 minutes ago, Terdolph said:

I love the 925 building.  I just wish they would put a bank in it and re-open the banking lobby as a banking lobby.

 

Imagine making a deposit there!

 

I just don't think that living there would be much fun.

Well I don’t think they plan on turning the lobby into a residence, so I wouldn’t sweat the thought. 

48 minutes ago, Terdolph said:

I love the 925 building.  I just wish they would put a bank in it and re-open the banking lobby as a banking lobby.

 

Imagine making a deposit there!

 

I just don't think that living there would be much fun.

 

The 1920's aren't coming back.  We have to repurpose the city that we've inherited for uses that are relevant in 2020, not keep hoping that banks are going to need massive lobbies in an era of online banking and atm's.  Massive and opulent banking lobbies, department stores, multi-story industrial buildings- these are all things of the past that aren't coming back because technology and society have moved on.  Get over it.  Join us in the 21st Century.

58 minutes ago, Terdolph said:

I love the 925 building.  I just wish they would put a bank in it and re-open the banking lobby as a banking lobby.

 

Imagine making a deposit there!

 

I just don't think that living there would be much fun.

Well as someone old enough to say I've banked in the lobby, it was very cool.

 

However, not sure what the lobby had to do with the residencies above.

 

I believe it's premature to state how "fun" living in a development will or might be, before it's complete, let alone fully KNOWING all the details of the development.

Edited October 13, 20195 yr by MyTwoSense

No development news, hopefully more of a pre-reno pic? of the building. I think its fair to say everyone knows this building is huge, but wow, this building is yuuuuge from this angle

 

Edited October 30, 20195 yr by GISguy
Just found a construction photo from almost the same angle from: https://www.flickr.com/photos/63837784@N08/albums/72157662951329645/with/23941406482/

On 10/13/2019 at 6:52 PM, Terdolph said:

I love the 925 building.  I just wish they would put a bank in it and re-open the banking lobby as a banking lobby.

 

Imagine making a deposit there!

 

I just don't think that living there would be much fun.

Great place to film a bank robbery!

This project is in danger of losing that $25 million dollar tax credit if not started soon. This project doesn’t have time to wait for TMUD.

Edited October 30, 20195 yr by marty15

4 minutes ago, marty15 said:

This project is in danger of losing that $25 million dollar tax credit if not started soon. This project doesn’t have time to wait for TMUD.

 

I'm not highly knowledgeable on these sorts of tax credits, so maybe this is more common than I realize, but I really don't like the requirement in the TMUD bill that the TMUD tax credit has to be necessary for a project in order to be awarded. Millennia was talking the other day about how the TMUD credit is "necessary" for the Centennial development to get off the ground. Unfortunately, they HAVE to say that in order to contend for the credit. Seems like it just creates an incentive for large developers to whine and moan about how hard it is to get financing for their big project. I mean why WOULDN'T they try for the TMUD? 

There’s no way TMUD could be worth as much as $25 million for this project. Am I mistaken?

5 minutes ago, marty15 said:

There’s no way TMUD could be worth as much as $25 million for this project. Am I mistaken?

https://www.cleveland.com/business/2015/12/former_huntington_building_win.html

note that's an old article, not sure if it's the same tax credit and/or if the deadline had been extended.

I’m guessing they successfully lobbied for an extension.

 

“The Ohio Development Services Agency, which oversees the historic tax-credit program, had warned Hudson that the state might rescind the award if the company didn't show that the 925 revamp had some momentum. A department spokeswoman said officials recently met with the project team and extended the deadline to start construction to Sept. 1, 2019.”

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/05/millennia_buys_downtown_clevel.html%3foutputType=amp

 

 

Edited October 30, 20195 yr by marty15

On 10/30/2019 at 3:24 PM, marty15 said:

I’m guessing they successfully lobbied for an extension.

 

“The Ohio Development Services Agency, which oversees the historic tax-credit program, had warned Hudson that the state might rescind the award if the company didn't show that the 925 revamp had some momentum. A department spokeswoman said officials recently met with the project team and extended the deadline to start construction to Sept. 1, 2019.”

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/05/millennia_buys_downtown_clevel.html%3foutputType=amp

 

 

 

Lets get this puppy rolling!

Anyone know what this use is? An adult school?

 

Wednesday, November 27th , 2019 AGENDA BOARD OF BUILDING STANDARDS AND BUILDING APPEALS

 

Docket A-226-19 909 Euclid Avenue WARD: 3 (Kerry McCormack) HH Cleveland Huntington L.P., Owner of the B Business- Offices, Laboratories, Adult School High-Rise Building appeals from a NOTICE OF VIOLATION-FAILURE TO REGISTER, dated July 23, 2019; appellant is requesting for nine (9) months to abate the violations.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/bbs/agenda/2019/AGENDA11272019.pdf

1 hour ago, KJP said:

Anyone know what this use is? An adult school?

 

Wednesday, November 27th , 2019 AGENDA BOARD OF BUILDING STANDARDS AND BUILDING APPEALS

 

Docket A-226-19 909 Euclid Avenue WARD: 3 (Kerry McCormack) HH Cleveland Huntington L.P., Owner of the B Business- Offices, Laboratories, Adult School High-Rise Building appeals from a NOTICE OF VIOLATION-FAILURE TO REGISTER, dated July 23, 2019; appellant is requesting for nine (9) months to abate the violations.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/bbs/agenda/2019/AGENDA11272019.pdf

Looks like a general classification. Not sure though.