Posted October 3, 201410 yr btw, Metropolitan at the 9 is getting early rave reviews on websites such as TripAdvisor... This is high end territory and The 9 may become our only 4-star hotel (if I recall, the Ritz dropped off the list...). Of course, we'll have to see how the new Hilton comes online... Laudatory comments are coming from everywhere, including traveler sophisticates from NYC ... and from overseas, too. Behold: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g50207-d6730957-Reviews-Metropolitan_at_The_9-Cleveland_Ohio.html
October 3, 201410 yr Here's a good quote from someone who lives in NYC: There is simply nothing like this anywhere I have been in the country. When I first visited I tried drawing comparisons to hotels in NYC and honestly came up blank. The 9 makes the Standard Hotel/Hotel on Rivington/The Hudson Hotel look passé
October 3, 201410 yr Here's a good quote from someone who lives in NYC: There is simply nothing like this anywhere I have been in the country. When I first visited I tried drawing comparisons to hotels in NYC and honestly came up blank. The 9 makes the Standard Hotel/Hotel on Rivington/The Hudson Hotel look passé This guest had a great time!
October 3, 201410 yr btw, Metropolitan at the 9 is getting early rave reviews on websites such as TripAdvisor... This is high end territory and The 9 may become our only 4-star hotel (if I recall, the Ritz dropped off the list...). Of course, we'll have to see how the new Hilton comes online... Laudatory comments are coming from everywhere, including traveler sophisticates from NYC ... and from overseas, too. Behold: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g50207-d6730957-Reviews-Metropolitan_at_The_9-Cleveland_Ohio.html Not to be Debbie Downer, but TA is generally used by people are are not seasoned travelers. "Traveler sophisticates from NYC"? :wtf: I would also mention, the "newness" of the property. When the Aloft came on line it was number 1. When the Westin came online it too went to no. 1. Where are they both now? I in no way taking away from the FACT that this is a stand out property and moving forward other boutique brands will need to meet this type of expectation. The Hilton in no way will match this. The Hilton is a standard brand and it is a convention size hotel. The Autograph collection is Marriott boutique brand. Two different types of hotels from a brand and a function perspective.
October 4, 201410 yr Here's a good quote from someone who lives in NYC: There is simply nothing like this anywhere I have been in the country. When I first visited I tried drawing comparisons to hotels in NYC and honestly came up blank. The 9 makes the Standard Hotel/Hotel on Rivington/The Hudson Hotel look passé Anyone that thinks the Standard or Hudson are comparable shouldn't be quoted. This development mirrors more like the Cosmopolitan in Lost Wages.
October 4, 201410 yr btw, Metropolitan at the 9 is getting early rave reviews on websites such as TripAdvisor... This is high end territory and The 9 may become our only 4-star hotel (if I recall, the Ritz dropped off the list...). Of course, we'll have to see how the new Hilton comes online... Laudatory comments are coming from everywhere, including traveler sophisticates from NYC ... and from overseas, too. Behold: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g50207-d6730957-Reviews-Metropolitan_at_The_9-Cleveland_Ohio.html Not to be Debbie Downer, but TA is generally used by people are are not seasoned travelers. "Traveler sophisticates from NYC"? :wtf: I would also mention, the "newness" of the property. When the Aloft came on line it was number 1. When the Westin came online it too went to no. 1. Where are they both now? I in no way taking away from the FACT that this is a stand out property and moving forward other boutique brands will need to meet this type of expectation. The Hilton in no way will match this. The Hilton is a standard brand and it is a convention size hotel. The Autograph collection is Marriott boutique brand. Two different types of hotels from a brand and a function perspective. Ah, I was waiting for MTS to chime in!... I knew you'd straighten me out on this because you know quality, particularly in terms of travel... This is level of boutique hotel is new territory for Cleveland in modern times, no? I will say, as someone who tends to track comments like these, of the new hotels that have gone online in Cleveland recently, none have been as generally strong as they have been for The 9 (U. Circle’s Courtyard has been pretty strong too). And yes, my understanding is that the Autograph Collection is Marriott's premiere brand – or certainly one of them. ... With this in mind (and not to sound overly elitist), I'm sure this particular brand attracts a certain class of customer -- and those loyal to the brand -- and at this level, you'd expect travelers to be unusually discerning and demanding. So the fact that these customers are heaping this kind of praise on this hotel, is saying something ... at least to me, it is... And let’s be honest, given the fact that this IS Cleveland and, whether they choose to admit it or not, these travelers likely come in a preconceived negative outlook toward the city, consciously or unconsciously, makes these comments even more impressive... And MTS, I'd think this crowd is not one to be bowled over by a hotel’s newness... If anything, I'd expect these folks would be more critical and less forgiving of a property (and hence, in many ways, ... the City) for miscues and staff not being up to snuff… by all accounts, therefore, The 9 is passing with flying colors.
October 4, 201410 yr I just hope that Marriott does an adequate job maintaining it. I stayed in an Autograph Collection hotel in the Detroit area, and it was awful. The carpet was pulling back from the baseboards (like a 1/2" gap), the woodwork was caked in layers of paint, and there was a broken outlet in the bathroom that was clearly a replacement already as it didn't match the wallpaper cutout from the previous cover plate. They also piled a bunch of non-washable pillows on top of my bed pillows, which totally grossed me out. I don't often take the time to fill out guest surveys, but I did for that stay.
October 4, 201410 yr btw, Metropolitan at the 9 is getting early rave reviews on websites such as TripAdvisor... This is high end territory and The 9 may become our only 4-star hotel (if I recall, the Ritz dropped off the list...). Of course, we'll have to see how the new Hilton comes online... Laudatory comments are coming from everywhere, including traveler sophisticates from NYC ... and from overseas, too. Behold: http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g50207-d6730957-Reviews-Metropolitan_at_The_9-Cleveland_Ohio.html Not to be Debbie Downer, but TA is generally used by people are are not seasoned travelers. "Traveler sophisticates from NYC"? :wtf: I would also mention, the "newness" of the property. When the Aloft came on line it was number 1. When the Westin came online it too went to no. 1. Where are they both now? I in no way taking away from the FACT that this is a stand out property and moving forward other boutique brands will need to meet this type of expectation. The Hilton in no way will match this. The Hilton is a standard brand and it is a convention size hotel. The Autograph collection is Marriott boutique brand. Two different types of hotels from a brand and a function perspective. Ah, I was waiting for MTS to chime in!... I knew you'd straighten me out on this because you know quality, particularly in terms of travel... This is level of boutique hotel is new territory for Cleveland in modern times, no? I will say, as someone who tends to track comments like these, of the new hotels that have gone online in Cleveland recently, none have been as generally strong as they have been for The 9 (U. Circle’s Courtyard has been pretty strong too). And yes, my understanding is that the Autograph Collection is Marriott's premiere brand – or certainly one of them. ... With this in mind (and not to sound overly elitist), I'm sure this particular brand attracts a certain class of customer -- and those loyal to the brand -- and at this level, you'd expect travelers to be unusually discerning and demanding. So the fact that these customers are heaping this kind of praise on this hotel, is saying something ... at least to me, it is... And let’s be honest, given the fact that this IS Cleveland and, whether they choose to admit it or not, these travelers likely come in a preconceived negative outlook toward the city, consciously or unconsciously, makes these comments even more impressive... And MTS, I'd think this crowd is not one to be bowled over by a hotel’s newness... If anything, I'd expect these folks would be more critical and less forgiving of a property (and hence, in many ways, ... the City) for miscues and staff not being up to snuff… by all accounts, therefore, The 9 is passing with flying colors. Stragighten you out! he he he he he >:D The 9, is like the Pinnacle complex. Once it went up it was the benchmark in downtown Cleveland residential buildings. Now several developments later, we have rental housing that equals what you would find in Chicago, Boston, Philly, DC, ATL & Portland. The JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton are Marriott's top brand. Autograph Collection is a new Marriott brand of about 40 properties in the US. Some came from other brands, after their management contracts ran out. Some were independents. Autograph was introduced to compete with Starwoods W & Le Meridien Brands, Hyatt's Andaz Brand as well as the Kimpton, Thomson, James Hotels and the Morgan's hotels group Mondrian brand. Recently the Hilton created the Curio brand, which will also complete in this category. Yes this property will attract top tier customers, a segment Cleveland has LONG ignored. When the Le Meridien and Kimpton open, this corner will attract a hip (not hipster) fickle, service oriented, stylish audience. You're right people may have come with preconceived notions of Cleveland, but I think - and thank God - that is starting to melt away. However, Marriott has hyped this property very well. It's a "flagship" property As I said before it's SISTER property is the Cosmopolitan in Vegas they hyped the Cleveland property as well as the Glenn and Algonquin properties. I'm not intouch (professionally) with Marriott as I am with Starwood and Hyatt, but Marriott has but a lot of money into this brand expansion. Which says a lot about their belief in Cleveland and strangle hold in Cleveland. Marriott has the most number of properties/rooms in Cleveland proper. So for Marriott this property has to be a "winner". Again, it's not that the hotel is receiving good vibes its by whom. TA is not on the level of some other travel sites when people who are seasoned travelers, know the brands, properties, published benefits back and forth. I want nothing for the best, but I'm a realist. We still have a long way to go when it comes to leisure travel and residential living but we're on our way.
October 4, 201410 yr I just hope that Marriott does an adequate job maintaining it. I stayed in an Autograph Collection hotel in the Detroit area, and it was awful. The carpet was pulling back from the baseboards (like a 1/2" gap), the woodwork was caked in layers of paint, and there was a broken outlet in the bathroom that was clearly a replacement already as it didn't match the wallpaper cutout from the previous cover plate. They also piled a bunch of non-washable pillows on top of my bed pillows, which totally grossed me out. I don't often take the time to fill out guest surveys, but I did for that stay. I think many of you fail to understand what the Autograph Collection really is. It's not a "brand" of Marriott in the same way that Ritz-Carlton, Courtyard, etc are. They are independent hotels that are affiliated with Marriott's rewards program. Marriott corporate doesn't have much say in what happens at the Metropolitan (or any other Autograph Collection hotel), they are autonomous.
October 4, 201410 yr I just hope that Marriott does an adequate job maintaining it. I stayed in an Autograph Collection hotel in the Detroit area, and it was awful. The carpet was pulling back from the baseboards (like a 1/2" gap), the woodwork was caked in layers of paint, and there was a broken outlet in the bathroom that was clearly a replacement already as it didn't match the wallpaper cutout from the previous cover plate. They also piled a bunch of non-washable pillows on top of my bed pillows, which totally grossed me out. I don't often take the time to fill out guest surveys, but I did for that stay. I think many of you fail to understand what the Autograph Collection really is. It's not a "brand" of Marriott in the same way that Ritz-Carlton, Courtyard, etc are. They are independent hotels that are affiliated with Marriott's rewards program. Marriott corporate doesn't have much say in what happens at the Metropolitan (or any other Autograph Collection hotel), they are autonomous. The Autograph collection is a brand. Just like the luxury collection is a brand at Starwood and the Curio Collection is a new brand at Hilton. Each property is a "boutique" hotel, yet follow all the brand guidelines. in regard to the 9, no two properties are alike with exception of the 9 and the Cosmopolitan in Vegas. The are very close cousins. Many of the properties are former independents, historical properties or adaptive reuse properties that are unique to a specific area or region.
October 4, 201410 yr I just hope that Marriott does an adequate job maintaining it. I stayed in an Autograph Collection hotel in the Detroit area, and it was awful. The carpet was pulling back from the baseboards (like a 1/2" gap), the woodwork was caked in layers of paint, and there was a broken outlet in the bathroom that was clearly a replacement already as it didn't match the wallpaper cutout from the previous cover plate. They also piled a bunch of non-washable pillows on top of my bed pillows, which totally grossed me out. I don't often take the time to fill out guest surveys, but I did for that stay. I think many of you fail to understand what the Autograph Collection really is. It's not a "brand" of Marriott in the same way that Ritz-Carlton, Courtyard, etc are. They are independent hotels that are affiliated with Marriott's rewards program. Marriott corporate doesn't have much say in what happens at the Metropolitan (or any other Autograph Collection hotel), they are autonomous. The Autograph collection is a brand. Just like the luxury collection is a brand at Starwood and the Curio Collection is a new brand at Hilton. Each property is a "boutique" hotel, yet follow all the brand guidelines. in regard to the 9, no two properties are alike with exception of the 9 and the Cosmopolitan in Vegas. The are very close cousins. Many of the properties are former independents, historical properties or adaptive reuse properties that are unique to a specific area or region. What do you mean that the Metropolitan and the Cosmopolitan are cousins? I've never been to the Cosmopolitan, so what do they have in common that all the other properties don't? And again, as for the Autograph Collection, they're not "former independents," they are all independents. That's one of the defining features of the collection.
October 4, 201410 yr I just hope that Marriott does an adequate job maintaining it. I stayed in an Autograph Collection hotel in the Detroit area, and it was awful. The carpet was pulling back from the baseboards (like a 1/2" gap), the woodwork was caked in layers of paint, and there was a broken outlet in the bathroom that was clearly a replacement already as it didn't match the wallpaper cutout from the previous cover plate. They also piled a bunch of non-washable pillows on top of my bed pillows, which totally grossed me out. I don't often take the time to fill out guest surveys, but I did for that stay. I think many of you fail to understand what the Autograph Collection really is. It's not a "brand" of Marriott in the same way that Ritz-Carlton, Courtyard, etc are. They are independent hotels that are affiliated with Marriott's rewards program. Marriott corporate doesn't have much say in what happens at the Metropolitan (or any other Autograph Collection hotel), they are autonomous. The Autograph collection is a brand. Just like the luxury collection is a brand at Starwood and the Curio Collection is a new brand at Hilton. Each property is a "boutique" hotel, yet follow all the brand guidelines. in regard to the 9, no two properties are alike with exception of the 9 and the Cosmopolitan in Vegas. The are very close cousins. Many of the properties are former independents, historical properties or adaptive reuse properties that are unique to a specific area or region. What do you mean that the Metropolitan and the Cosmopolitan are cousins? I've never been to the Cosmopolitan, so what do they have in common that all the other properties don't? And again, as for the Autograph Collection, they're not "former independents," they are all independents. That's one of the defining features of the collection. The Cosmopolitan is an Urban resort just as the 9 is. Most other US properties are stand alone buildings. The Autograph properties cannot be "independent" if they are managed (and operated) by Marriott and participate in the Marriott rewards program. Again, this brand was created to compete with the Luxury Collection (and some W/Le Meridien), Andaz and Curio Brands. Can we get back to the 9 as this has gone way off topic.
October 4, 201410 yr Yes, let's get back to the 9, just after this from Marriott's website: https://www.marriott.com/hotel-development/Autograph-Collection.mi "The Autograph Collection is a remarkable group of upper upscale and luxury independent hotels. These iconic properties are located in dynamic gateway cities and preferred destinations worldwide. Each one is unique, one of a kind and with its own distinct perspective." They're not managed and operated by Marriott. Here are some pictures (http://www.cleveland.com/kristel/index.ssf/2014/10/the_alex_theater_at_the_9_feat.html) and a video (http://www.cleveland.com/kristel/index.ssf/2014/10/9_must-see_things_inside_the_a.html#incart_related_stories) from Cleveland.com about the Alex Theater. Looks like a unique (and comfortable!) space.
October 4, 201410 yr Yes, let's get back to the 9, just after this from Marriott's website: https://www.marriott.com/hotel-development/Autograph-Collection.mi "The Autograph Collection is a remarkable group of upper upscale and luxury independent hotels. These iconic properties are located in dynamic gateway cities and preferred destinations worldwide. Each one is unique, one of a kind and with its own distinct perspective." They're not managed and operated by Marriott. Here are some pictures (http://www.cleveland.com/kristel/index.ssf/2014/10/the_alex_theater_at_the_9_feat.html) and a video (http://www.cleveland.com/kristel/index.ssf/2014/10/9_must-see_things_inside_the_a.html#incart_related_stories) from Cleveland.com about the Alex Theater. Looks like a unique (and comfortable!) space. They are managed and operated by Marriott or they cannot participate. They should use "boutique" in place of "independent". Back to the 9
October 4, 201410 yr They are managed and operated by Marriott or they cannot participate. They should use "boutique" in place of "independent". Back to the 9 I can't post external links, but here is text straight from Marriott themselves: " Independent hotels will be able to utilize shared services such as revenue management, leverage Marriott’s enormous buying power to secure procurement savings and take advantage of many other resources to reduce costs and increase efficiency. This gives an independent hotel access to resources that otherwise would be completely out of reach without sacrificing independence or control. " " As members of the Autograph Collection, independent hotels are able to take advantage of Marriott’s powerful distribution and marketing channels to deliver bookings and revenue, as well as many other programs and services that help reduce operating costs, leveraging all the benefits of a global brand unhindered by complex requirements and excessive standards." Here is a snippit from an article of one hotel that joined the autograph collection: "The property, owned by Brookfield Asset Management and independently managed, is expected to officially join the Autograph Collection in the fall." My understanding was there was a pretty fair degree of autonomy. I apologize if I am continuing to take this off topic...I'll go back to lurking...
October 7, 201410 yr It seems like this is a debate over semantics, with the point of contention being the definition of "independent." A strict interpretation of independent at one time meant that the property was neither franchised, nor affiliated in any way, with a larger organization. But due to consolidation in the industry, this is now extremely rare among hotels, especially among larger 4 & 5 star properties. So it has become more common to use a looser interpretation of the word independent. It's widely accepted now to say that an "independent hotel" is owned by one company, and managed by either the owner or a third party management company, yet is still affiliated with a larger organization in some way, shape, or form. As this thread proves, this inevitably leads to confusion. Even more so nowadays, since it allows for considerable overlap with another completely ambiguous term that's sprouted up in recent years, the "boutique hotel." As an example of potential confusion: Is the Fontainebleau Miami Beach independent? It's owned by Turnberry Associates, run by their own in-house hospitality division, and is in no way affiliated with any national brand like Marriott or Hilton. Yet Turnberry Associates owns 8 hotels in addition to an absolute ton of residential, commercial, and retail complexes. So if their parent company owns 2,000 hotel rooms spanning 7 other properties... can the Fountainebleau really be called independent? Or, to put it another way, in what way are they truly more "independent" than The Metropolitan, which is (at the moment) the only hotel owned & operated by Geis Hospitality Group? Now surely Inn Walden in Aurora would qualify as independent. But at 27 rooms, I don't even consider Inn Walden a hotel. It's more of a large B&B, or as the name implies, an "inn." The term "independent" might lose whatever smidgen of meaning it has left if it is now being relegated to describing only B&B's. So obviously the term "independent hotel" needs to be more clearly defined. Unfortunately, given society's current infatuation with linguistic ambiguity, it's safe to say that this isn't going to happen anytime soon. Personally, I would propose that an "independent" be defined as a hotel of at least 100 rooms, that does not have any type of loyalty or rewards program, and whose ownership group owns no other hotels. I readily admit, however, that the number of hotels that fit this definition nationwide is very small. And again, when we narrow our focus to 4 & 5 star properties, the list becomes infinitesimally small. Hence, until I am provided with a good (and widely understood) definition, I'm OK with accepting the current loose interpretation of the word. /enddigressiverant All that said, using the modern loose interpretation, Marriott Autograph Collection hotels (at least here in the States) are technically "independent." As far as I am aware, none are owned by, nor directly managed by, Marriott International. They are independent franchises operating under a licensing agreement with Marriott International for marketing purposes. Mainly this means they utilize Marriott's booking system and they participate in the Marriott Rewards program. Most properties seem to be owned by companies that are big enough to have their own hospitality division (like Geis and Blackstone.) But it turns out that at least one is run by a true third party management company (Hotel ICON.) In any case, I've yet to find an Autograph Collection hotel that is either owned by, or even truly operated by, Marriott International themselves. Doesn't mean there isn't one... but I've yet to find it. The owners and/or operators of Autograph Collection properties that I've personally been to are: The Metropolitan (Cleveland) - Geis Hospitality Group & Greenwood Hospitality Group Turnberry Isle (Miami) - Turnberry Associates Union Station Hotel (Nashville) - Turnberry Associates (This property absolutely rocks. It is drop dead gorgeous.) The Lexington (NYC) - Highgate Hotels The Algonquin (NYC) - HEI Hotels Hotel Adagio (San Fran) - Evolution Hospitality Hotel ICON (Houston) - Crescent Hotels & Resorts (Wasn't impressed by most Houston hotels, but this one was kinda nice. Partially owned by Magic Johnson through Canyon Johnson Urban Funds.) The Cosmopolitan (Las Vegas) - Blackstone Real Estate The Henry (Dearborn, MI) - Greenwood Hospitality
October 7, 201410 yr I think by that second standard even some non-"boutique" hotels could qualify as independent, though. The Tudor Arms, a Doubletree, is owned by MRN, which operates just that and the Holiday Inn Express Downtown. It is not managed by Hilton corporate staff, though they have to meet certain brand standards and uses their booking system and loyalty program.
October 7, 201410 yr I wholeheartedly agree with you X, and that's exactly what led to all of the confusion above. The Tudor Arms would indeed meet Marriott's own definition of "independent" as cited by Devin. It would not, however, meet my personal definition of "independent." It fails my definition in two regards: 1. It participates in the Hilton Honors program. 2. MRN owns an additional hotel in the Holiday Inn Express. It seems that MyTwoSense uses a strict definition of independent, one probably very similar to my own. While TPH2, Devin, jam40jeff, and many others (including Marriott themselves) are using the more loose definition. And that's fine, I understand where both sides are coming from since there is no widely accepted true definition of the term. Personally, I try to refrain from using the phrases independent hotel and boutique hotel whenever possible. I just don't think either term does an adequate job of describing anything. But I won't jump on anyone for doing otherwise.
October 7, 201410 yr The owners and/or operators of Autograph Collection properties that I've personally been to are: The Metropolitan (Cleveland) - Geis Hospitality Group & Greenwood Hospitality Group Turnberry Isle (Miami) - Turnberry Associates Union Station Hotel (Nashville) - Turnberry Associates (This property absolutely rocks. It is drop dead gorgeous.) The Lexington (NYC) - Highgate Hotels The Algonquin (NYC) - HEI Hotels Hotel Adagio (San Fran) - Evolution Hospitality Hotel ICON (Houston) - Crescent Hotels & Resorts (Wasn't impressed by most Houston hotels, but this one was kinda nice. Partially owned by Magic Johnson through Canyon Johnson Urban Funds.) The Cosmopolitan (Las Vegas) - Blackstone Real Estate The Henry (Dearborn, MI) - Greenwood Hospitality If you could rank the AC properties that you have been to from your favorite to your least favorite, that would be great. I have only been by the Lexington/Algonquin and Union Station. I agree, Union Station looked spectacular.
October 7, 201410 yr If you could rank the AC properties that you have been to from your favorite to your least favorite, that would be great. I have only been by the Lexington/Algonquin and Union Station. I agree, Union Station looked spectacular. Sorry, I honestly couldn't. Almost all of the ones that I've been to, I haven't actually stayed at. I have been in the lobbies & public areas of all of them, and I've seen pictures of the rooms in each. But I haven't actually been inside the rooms of most of them, nor interacted with enough staff to truly gauge their level of service. I could probably subjectively rank the architectural beauty of their lobbies, and rank how friendly the receptionist or concierges was, but that's about it. I'm sure that is not at all what you were looking for. :lol: You see, I have a very odd habit of stopping into historic, luxury, and "independent" hotels (damn... I used that term) in any city that I visit. And I always ask for a pen with the hotel name on it (yes as in the writing instrument.) Why? Few reasons. 1. I collect hotel pens. 2. In my humble opinion, historic & luxury hotels (along with parks and often government buildings) tend to be among the most spectacular public spaces within any city. And hotels, unlike government buildings, are open 24/7. 3. It forces me to explore lots of different neighborhoods within the city, rather than confining myself to just the areas I'm staying in or visiting. I think it actually started off when my folks took me to The Breakers in Palm Beach, FL as a wee little tot. And in the 25+ years since then, I've amassed a collection of well over 1,000 hotel pens and pencils. I told you it was very odd!!! Typically, I just stop into the lobby and ask either a receptionist or concierges for a pen, and then wander around any public areas of the hotel that I can without trying to cause a disturbance. I also enjoy the brief interaction with the staff for a moment, especially over such an odd request as a pen. It gives me a very teeny tiny insight into their mindset. How friendly are they? How proud are they of their property and/or their city? A couple of times I have asked to see a ballroom or a hotel room, but not often. Sometimes I'll have a drink at the hotel bar or a meal at their restaurant, but again, not often. It's really more about the architecture for me... and the pens! Just one of my many eccentricities. Ask my bro Clevecane, he'll tell you... I'm a strange guy!
October 7, 201410 yr There are obviously a lot of intricacies to how hotels are branded, who owns them, what brand standards do they have to hold up etc, but my main point was that the Metropolitan is not owned by, nor managed/operated by Marriott corporate, as MTS and some others had indicated to be the case.
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