April 7, 20214 yr This is an exciting development for the Wasson Way. I'd really like to know how the trail will extend beyond MLK and Reading. The giant intersection seems inhospitable and it's really unfortunate if we don't create great connections to UC, downtown, and Central Parkway/Clifton/Northside/Mill Creek.
April 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Miami-Erie said: This is an exciting development for the Wasson Way. I'd really like to know how the trail will extend beyond MLK and Reading. The giant intersection seems inhospitable and it's really unfortunate if we don't create great connections to UC, downtown, and Central Parkway/Clifton/Northside/Mill Creek. The MLK mixed-use path sucks, but it does create a connection (for the more casual bikers) to the Central Pkwy bike trail, and close to the Mill Creek Greenway. Southward though is going to have to be a bike lane (which wouldn't likely happen if BRT along Reading happens) or mixed-use path along Reading, there's no room anywhere else.
April 7, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, 10albersa said: The MLK mixed-use path sucks, but it does create a connection (for the more casual bikers) to the Central Pkwy bike trail, and close to the Mill Creek Greenway. Southward though is going to have to be a bike lane (which wouldn't likely happen if BRT along Reading happens) or mixed-use path along Reading, there's no room anywhere else. Yeah it definitely sucks since it's concrete instead of asphalt. I think the current plan for points south and east of the MLK/Reading intersection is to route people around it via the Blair Avenue bridge which already has bike lanes. From there, bikers can get to Lincoln Avenue and then University Avenue.
April 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Dev said: Yeah it definitely sucks since it's concrete instead of asphalt. I think the current plan for points south and east of the MLK/Reading intersection is to route people around it via the Blair Avenue bridge which already has bike lanes. From there, bikers can get to Lincoln Avenue and then University Avenue. Are we referring to the MLK path between Clifton Avenue and Hopple? It's asphalt. I run on it all the time.
April 7, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, DEPACincy said: Are we referring to the MLK path between Clifton Avenue and Hopple? It's asphalt. I run on it all the time. The portion that goes from Clifton to Reading is mixed-use (and some is just normal sidewalk too, I think). The asphalt portion has got to be a beast to run on, that's a healthy incline over a long distance.
April 7, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, 10albersa said: The portion that goes from Clifton to Reading is mixed-use (and some is just normal sidewalk too, I think). The asphalt portion has got to be a beast to run on, that's a healthy incline over a long distance. Yes, this is the portion I was referring to and it is not yet complete.
April 14, 20214 yr Here’s a link (at bottom of page) to the construction cam for the innovation corridor. https://www.terrexllc.com/what-we-have-done/digital-futures-complex/#
April 14, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Here’s a link (at bottom of page) to the construction cam for the innovation corridor. https://www.terrexllc.com/what-we-have-done/digital-futures-complex/# I don't think I've seen these renderings before but I find it interesting that they include people walking along MLK. Seems hilariously optimistic considering the sidewalk is right up against the curb with no buffer or tree canopy.
April 14, 20214 yr UC’s Digital Futures Building topped off in Uptown The development and construction team, along with the University of Cincinnati, celebrated a milestone in the construction of the Digital Futures Building in the Cincinnati Innovation District. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/04/14/ucs-digital-futures-building-topped-off.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 28, 20214 yr Last week there was a public hearing held about splitting the commercial space in the new Avondale Town Center into 2 businesses. Quote The mixed-use building at 3539 Reading Road has 17,000 square feet of commercial space on the first floor and two floors of mixed-income apartments above. The applicant, The Community Builders (TCB), proposes separating the first floor commercial space into two tenant spaces for the Urban League Center for Social Justice and the County Meat Co. & More (Avondale Grocery). TCB would manage all tenant improvements necessary, resulting in an office and community resource center space for the Urban League Center for Social Justice and the Avondale Grocery. The applicant and the City will enter into a Development Agreement that includes a forgivable loan for the proposed improvements. The current timeline allows for the spaces to open last spring/early summer 2022. More here, including slide deck: City Planning - Avondale Town Center Improvements
June 10, 20214 yr $15.2 million housing development gets Cincinnati City Council OK Blair Lofts, a major affordable housing project in Avondale, received two key incentives Wednesday in a unanimous council vote aimed at moving the project to its groundbreaking stage. Blair Lofts is a $15.2 million, 64-unit affordable housing project at 3401 Reading Road being developed by Fairfield Homes and Kingsley + Co., whose principal is former Cincinnati Bengal Chinedum Ndukwe. Council voted to allocate $300,000 from the Avondale tax-increment financing district to the project, which will help complete its capital stack. The fund had nearly $2 million in it in April, according to the city’s Finance Department. It also approved a 15-year tax property tax abatement valued at $1.9 million, according to a city analysis of the project. In exchange, the developer will build a Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design certified silver building. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/06/10/blair-lofts.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
July 16, 20213 yr Foundation looks to complete $5 million renovation of historic Uptown building The nonprofit Dragonfly Foundation has plans for an $5 million overhaul its Avondale headquarters in a historic mansion to better accomplish and expand its mission of supporting the families of pediatric cancer patients. Work needed on the building at 506 Oak St. includes basics like window replacement, renovating the third-floor ballroom and renovating the carriage house. It has raised about $1.5 million so far and received assistance from the city of Cincinnati. “We feel so blessed to have this location,” said Dragonfly co-founder Jim Neitzke. “We’re so close to Children’s (hospital).” The foundation's vision for the space includes turning parts of the building’s first-floor into a quiet space for adults as well as an Internet cafe. The carriage house will become an active play area. The third floor, which was used as a ballroom and a call center, would be a learning center, which the foundation may sell the naming rights to. The site’s renovations will allow for new activities and programming, including yoga and other mindfulness activities. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/07/16/dragonfly-foundation-renovation.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 22, 20213 yr Offices at Vernon Manor owner making $1 million upgrade The owner of the Offices at Vernon Manor, a project that transformed the former 177-room hotel into office space for Cincinnati Children’s Hospital, plans to make some additional upgrades to the building. An affiliate of 90 North Real Estate Partners purchased the building, along with the neighboring Offices @ Vernon Place, in 2018 for more than $75.2 million. Now, 90 North is renovating the front entrance of the Offices at Vernon Manor. Dan Cooper, partner and head of North America for London-based 90 North, said the renovation will remove some of the architecture that is inconsistent with the original design. The total investment for the renovation is about $1 million. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2021/11/22/90-north-to-upgrade-offices-at-vernon-manor.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 14, 20223 yr On Jan 21, the Planning Commission will review a proposal to sell City-owned land at 3584 Alaska in Avondale. Details begin on page 85: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/jan-21-2022-packet/ The site is 3.79 acres and the recommendation is for Titan Real Estate Group to develop 18 single family homes with a new 40-foot-wide street connecting Alaska to Harvey. The report recommends selling the property for only $3,000, but it's not clear to me who will be paying for the street/infrastructure improvements.
January 24, 20223 yr New single-family housing coming to Cincinnati neighborhood A women-owned development company will build new single-family homes in Avondale, years after a controversial housing project for homeless people was proposed and scuttled at the same site. Covington-based Titan Real Estate Group will build 18 homes on 3.8 acres at 3584 Alaska Ave., and a new 40-foot wide street will be built to connect the site to Harvey Avenue. The Cincinnati Planning Commission approved the $6.2 million development on Friday and the sale of city-owned land for $3,000. The fair-market value of the land is listed at $206,000, and the city said in documents it will write down the purchase price. The City Council will have to approve the land sale. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/01/24/titan-avondale-project.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 24, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: new 40-foot wide street will be built to connect the site to Harvey Avenue. Terrible idea. Lots of cut-through traffic will likely follow
January 24, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Dev said: Terrible idea. Lots of cut-through traffic will likely follow I hope they mean two 10 foot travel lanes and two 10 foot parking lanes.
January 24, 20223 yr 26 minutes ago, DEPACincy said: I hope they mean two 10 foot travel lanes and two 10 foot parking lanes. Probably 40 foot, unmarked lanes
January 25, 20223 yr They mean 40' right-of-way. With sidewalks and tree lawns, it ends up with ~22' pavement width, split for 3 lanes (1 lane of traffic each way, plus 1 lane of parking). For comparison, here is Camden Ave which has the same 40' right-of-way: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1514866,-84.4950896,3a,75y,301.05h,87.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXaRi4rkMlhZzyOkHem3Ndg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192
January 25, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, jwulsin said: They mean 40' right-of-way. With sidewalks and tree lawns, it ends up with ~22' pavement width, split for 3 lanes (1 lane of traffic each way, plus 1 lane of parking). For comparison, here is Camden Ave which has the same 40' right-of-way: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1514866,-84.4950896,3a,75y,301.05h,87.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXaRi4rkMlhZzyOkHem3Ndg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 Ah okay, much better.
January 25, 20223 yr 10 hours ago, jwulsin said: They mean 40' right-of-way. With sidewalks and tree lawns, it ends up with ~22' pavement width, split for 3 lanes (1 lane of traffic each way, plus 1 lane of parking). For comparison, here is Camden Ave which has the same 40' right-of-way: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1514866,-84.4950896,3a,75y,301.05h,87.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sXaRi4rkMlhZzyOkHem3Ndg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 Your example shows two lanes of parking. I live in a neighborhood that works this way... two lanes of parking and one clear lane down the middle. cars can often drive past one another, but when they are parked on opposite sides of the road from one-another, it creates little one lane bridges. It's a great calming device, as driving down it becomes a polite game of, "after you."
January 25, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, zsnyder said: Your example shows two lanes of parking. I live in a neighborhood that works this way... two lanes of parking and one clear lane down the middle. cars can often drive past one another, but when they are parked on opposite sides of the road from one-another, it creates little one lane bridges. It's a great calming device, as driving down it becomes a polite game of, "after you." I was recently told that the standard width for double-sided parking is 26 feet. Camden has probably just gone unnoticed.
January 25, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, zsnyder said: Your example shows two lanes of parking. I live in a neighborhood that works this way... two lanes of parking and one clear lane down the middle. cars can often drive past one another, but when they are parked on opposite sides of the road from one-another, it creates little one lane bridges. It's a great calming device, as driving down it becomes a polite game of, "after you." These are called yield streets. We should build more of them https://nacto.org/publication/urban-street-design-guide/streets/yield-street/ “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
January 25, 20223 yr 5 hours ago, zsnyder said: Your example shows two lanes of parking. I live in a neighborhood that works this way... two lanes of parking and one clear lane down the middle. cars can often drive past one another, but when they are parked on opposite sides of the road from one-another, it creates little one lane bridges. It's a great calming device, as driving down it becomes a polite game of, "after you." I live on a yield street as well. It's great.
March 11, 20223 yr Ohio’s Intel deal sparks new interest in Cincinnati Innovation District Intel Corp.’s planned investment of $20 billion to build a pair of semiconductor factories in central Ohio has already had an impact on Cincinnati. A developer of the $200 million Digital Futures Complex in Uptown, part of the Cincinnati Innovation District, said the announcement of Intel’s plans to create more than 20,000 jobs, including 3,000 Intel jobs and 7,000 construction jobs, has led to new interest from companies taking space in the second Digital Futures Building. Peter Horton, principal and co-founder of Terrex Development & Construction, said. “In the last six weeks, since the Intel announcement, we’ve been talking to companies we never talked with before,” Horton said Thursday during Midwest RE Journals’ Cincinnati Commercial Real Estate Forecast Summit at the Westin Cincinnati. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/03/10/ohio-intel-sparks-cincinnati-innovation.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 7, 20223 yr Decorative fins being added now. Given how bland the building looks without these, it made me realize how this application and others like it could really spruce up some older 70's and 80's office buildings. Of course, it's not perfect, but a neat detail that makes this building feel a little more contemporary. On a side note, does anyone know if the original plans for connecting these buildings with MLK to make them more accessible were scrapped? Not seeing any work done at the moment, looks like the only pedestrian connections will be further up towards Reading.
April 11, 20223 yr On 4/7/2022 at 3:53 PM, dnymck said: On a side note, does anyone know if the original plans for connecting these buildings with MLK to make them more accessible were scrapped? Not seeing any work done at the moment, looks like the only pedestrian connections will be further up towards Reading. The latest renderings I saw only showed a connection that at the corner.
April 12, 20223 yr 8 hours ago, tonyt3524 said: The latest renderings I saw only showed a connection that at the corner. the spot from the photo is between Digital futures II and UC Digital Futures
April 12, 20223 yr On 4/7/2022 at 3:53 PM, dnymck said: On a side note, does anyone know if the original plans for connecting these buildings with MLK to make them more accessible were scrapped? Not seeing any work done at the moment, looks like the only pedestrian connections will be further up towards Reading. Were there ever better plans for this quadrant? I only remember seeing the plans for north of MLK. (Link to WVXU story here.)
April 13, 20223 yr It's very surprising that there is no plan from the City/UC/Cincinnati Innovation District to tie all the corners together and also connect this new district with UC East and UC Main campuses.
April 19, 20223 yr This has renderings but no finalized location, but i would guess Innovation District is probably one of the possibilities https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/04/19/cti-childrens-name-joint-venture-first-hire.html Edited April 19, 20223 yr by thebillshark www.cincinnatiideas.com
April 19, 20223 yr 54 minutes ago, thebillshark said: This has renderings but no finalized location, but i would guess Innovation District is probably one of the possibilities https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/04/19/cti-childrens-name-joint-venture-first-hire.html Based on the incentives that Kentucky and Covington are kicking in, it seems like CTI facility will definitely be in Covington. I doubt Ohio/Cincinnati would be able to swoop in and outcompete the incentives that Kentucky/Covington are offereing. The specific location in Covington is still up in the air, but it seems like it'll probably be a part of the former IRS site: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/04/18/covington-new-lab-price-tag.html Quote Many of its details are still in flux — including the lab’s exact location, its governance structure, its design and when it could break ground — but Covington’s portion of the investment will likely range between $7-$10 million, Meyer said. ... Meyer said the former IRS site downtown was originally pegged as the project’s conceptual location. However, no formal action has been taken to make that official. ... Tim Schroeder, CEO of CTI Clinical Trial and Consulting Services, which is headquartered at RiverCenter in Covington, said the lab would serve as an incubator for early-stage companies, and not just biotech, biopharma and medical device firms, but digital health and health tech companies.
April 19, 20223 yr 8 minutes ago, jwulsin said: Based on the incentives that Kentucky and Covington are kicking in, it seems like CTI facility will definitely be in Covington. I doubt Ohio/Cincinnati would be able to swoop in and outcompete the incentives that Kentucky/Covington are offereing. The specific location in Covington is still up in the air, but it seems like it'll probably be a part of the former IRS site: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/04/18/covington-new-lab-price-tag.html You maybe correct but these are 2 completely different facilities being built.
April 20, 20223 yr 18 hours ago, ucnum1 said: You maybe correct but these are 2 completely different facilities being built. Really? Is CTI proposing to build two new facilities simultaneously?
April 20, 20223 yr The state of Kentucky and Newport is footing the bill for the startup Lab why not? $25 million for the 10sq foot lab space and parking garage.This other facility is over $100 million 150k sq feet.Id bet on the lab going to the IRS site and CTI facility going in the Innovation Corridor.
April 25, 20223 yr The City of Cincinnati is looking to get input on a proposed monument to MLK that will be built at the northeast corner of Reading and MLK, and is aiming to be completed by August 2023. https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MLKMemorial
May 31, 20223 yr Cincinnati Children's Hospital to vacate, demo aging Oak Building in Avondale By Liz Engel – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier May 31, 2022 Updated May 31, 2022, 8:19am EDT Cincinnati Children’s Hospital plans to vacate — and later demolish — one of the oldest buildings under its ownership umbrella, a measure that includes relocating about 150 employees, including those at the Gamble Vaccine Research Center. The medical center said in a release Tuesday it will vacate and eventually demolish the Oak Building, located at 619 Oak St. on the corner of Reading Road, in Avondale. Cincinnati Children’s said it is no longer cost efficient to operate the aging 461,000-square-foot facility, much of which dates to the 1920s. About 150 employees, many in medical research, will move to nearby locations in the neighborhood by the end of June. MORE
May 31, 20223 yr Kind of sad to lose the landmark beside the highway, but I'm sure a big project will replace it. This section of 71 should be capped. Reconnecting Walnut Hills with Avondale/UC would be so good for the city.
May 31, 20223 yr With the construction labor shortage and rising costs for literally everything this demolition will probably be scrapped and the building will just be left to rot. I don’t know what it cost to demo back in 2019 but I’m guessing it has increased like everything else…and this building is massive.
May 31, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Troeros2 said: With the construction labor shortage and rising costs for literally everything this demolition will probably be scrapped and the building will just be left to rot. I don’t know what it cost to demo back in 2019 but I’m guessing it has increased like everything else…and this building is massive. LOL. I don't think you understand how Cincinnati Children's manages its budgets and longterm facility plans. They're not some weekend warrior who is postponing building a deck because of the cost of pressure treated lumber.
May 31, 20223 yr Yeah Cincy Children's does what they say they're going to do. This demo will be a drop in the bucket for them compared to the large projects they do. They also are always looking for more land so whatever can be built on this in the future is worth way more then the current old building.
May 31, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, jwulsin said: LOL. I don't think you understand how Cincinnati Children's manages its budgets and longterm facility plans. They're not some weekend warrior who is postponing building a deck because of the cost of pressure treated lumber. Fair point. Im just taking the Lutheran bell tower scenario for instance. It took them forever to find a demo company for the bell tower project and even so the demo company they did find couldn’t come out for at least 6 months to do the inspections. Now, this was last year. From what I understand things haven’t gotten better with these demo timelines. Even simple contractors are booked months upon months in advance. Not denying the fact this will get demoed - but with current market conditions I have a feeling the timeline of this building with remain standing longer than Cincy children’s wants it to. Edited May 31, 20223 yr by Troeros2
May 31, 20223 yr On a slightly separate note - I’ve always been curious how poorer Eastern European countries like Ukraine can manage to keep a hospital facility that is hundreds of years older still cost effective and operational…but American hospitals struggle with this.
May 31, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, Troeros2 said: On a slightly separate note - I’ve always been curious how poorer Eastern European countries like Ukraine can manage to keep a hospital facility that is hundreds of years older still cost effective and operational…but American hospitals struggle with this. I do not think those hospital systems are up to the same standards. Plus, this is not necessarily a patient facility but was more of a research building over the last 20 years. I think for some of the research going on, it is not efficient to reuse the building in that capacity and better to have something new.
May 31, 20223 yr 23 minutes ago, Troeros2 said: On a slightly separate note - I’ve always been curious how poorer Eastern European countries like Ukraine can manage to keep a hospital facility that is hundreds of years older still cost effective and operational…but American hospitals struggle with this. I don't know which Ukrainian hospital you're referring to, but I seriously doubt any hospital in Ukraine has the financial strength of Cincinnati Children's ($2.7 billion in annual revenue). So it's not a question of CCHMC "struggling" to be able to preserve old buildings. You could make an argument that you wish CCHMC prioritized historic preservation over its other organizational priorities. But that's a different argument from saying that CCHMC doesn't have the capacity to renovate old buildings. If they feel the land/space is better utilized by new building, they're willing to tear down whatever's there to build new. Their record shows that they're not particularly sentimental about buildings and are only willing to do save special buildings. They helped finance the renovation of the Vernon Manor building. They own the old Ursuline School building at 2808 Reading and that building is not being torn down, despite nearly everyting else around it getting demolished. So, I suspect they intend to incorporate 2808 Reading into a redesigned Oak campus after the other buildings are demolished. So I don't think they're opposed to historic preservation, but rather it's simply not their primary goal and so historic buildings are renovated only if/when it aligns with their primary organizational goals.
June 3, 20223 yr On 5/31/2022 at 8:43 AM, The_Cincinnati_Kid said: Cincinnati Children's Hospital to vacate, demo aging Oak Building in Avondale By Liz Engel – Staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier May 31, 2022 Updated May 31, 2022, 8:19am EDT Cincinnati Children’s Hospital plans to vacate — and later demolish — one of the oldest buildings under its ownership umbrella, a measure that includes relocating about 150 employees, including those at the Gamble Vaccine Research Center. The medical center said in a release Tuesday it will vacate and eventually demolish the Oak Building, located at 619 Oak St. on the corner of Reading Road, in Avondale. Cincinnati Children’s said it is no longer cost efficient to operate the aging 461,000-square-foot facility, much of which dates to the 1920s. About 150 employees, many in medical research, will move to nearby locations in the neighborhood by the end of June. MORE This seems short-sighted.
June 3, 20223 yr 13 hours ago, Miami-Erie said: This seems short-sighted. Why? They can put a new world class building on this land that will better serve them. Old buildings are great but they don't work well with hospitals.
June 8, 20223 yr New residential subdivision in Avondale set for approval Cincinnati City Council is set to give final approval today to a new single-family subdivision in Avondale, agreeing to spend at least $1 million to build a new road to the homes that will be on Alaska Avenue. Council members considered the nearly $7 million project at two successive budget committee meetings on Monday, June 6, and May 31, a new procedure for developments to give council members and the public more time to examine them after years of last-minute approval requests by previous administrations. They were supportive of the mostly market-rate development, which will bring 18 new single-family homes, with three- to four-bedrooms and 1,300 to 2,900 square feet each to 3584 Alaska Ave. The first phase will have eight homes and 10 more will follow. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/06/08/avondale-subdivision-approval-coming.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 29, 20222 yr City clears way for Ndukwe's $24 million Avondale development Cincinnati City Council approved last Thursday a zone change proposed by former Cincinnati Bengals player turned real estate developer Chinedum Ndukwe, clearing the way for a new development in Avondale. Ndukwe's firm Kingsley + Co. requested zoning at 3550-3560 Van Antwerp Place be changed from residential mixed to residential multifamily to build a four-story affordable housing development, called Lindsay Lofts, with 36 units and a 46-space parking lot. The project, according to Kingsley officials, also encompasses phase 2 of Blair Lofts, another Kingsley affordable housing development in Avondale – phase 1 of the project will be completed in the fall and include 64 units. Overall, Lindsay Lofts and phase 2 of Blair Lofts will consist of 84 units and be worth $24 million. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/06/29/chinedum-ndukwe-kingsley-and-co-avondale-project.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
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