May 10, 20214 yr Considering the Reds were out of town and there were no concerts going on last weekend, it appears the DORA area has been a success thus far.
May 11, 20214 yr 19 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said: Considering the Reds were out of town and there were no concerts going on last weekend, it appears the DORA area has been a success thus far. Did Cranley say that they also wanted to close off the next block over of Freedom Way when he announced the new park by the Freedom Center? If the popularity stays this high, it seems like it will be necessary to handle all the demand. The Banks has some good potential to be turned into a Barcelona style "super block."
May 11, 20214 yr 2 minutes ago, Dev said: Did Cranley say that they also wanted to close off the next block over of Freedom Way when he announced the new park by the Freedom Center? If the popularity stays this high, it seems like it will be necessary to handle all the demand. The Banks has some good potential to be turned into a Barcelona style "super block." I dont know. I could see Cranley saying that though
May 11, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said: I dont know. I could see Cranley saying that though Apparently he did, though details are vague: Quote The money would fund visioning and design of the park outside the south plaza of the Freedom Center, Cranley said. It would include a closed street and the green space across the street. The park could include outdoor, permanent exhibits, statues and sculptures, Cranley said. Courier - City would create new park at Freedom Center, boost King Records with stimulus money The stimulus spending plan by the City manager includes $3 million in year 2 on a "Freedom Center Park." That high of a cost makes more sense if it includes modifications to the existing street because it has to be closed off.
July 6, 20213 yr At the 2021 Doo Dah parade in Columbus via https://www.columbusunderground.com/photos-doodah-parade-2021-me1/
July 28, 20213 yr Columbus: Council Revises Arena District DORA Following Resident Feedback On Monday, July 26, Columbus City Council approved a revised Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area in the Arena District. The revised DORA was drastically reduced in footprint from a previous proposal by Mayor Andrew Ginther last month. The change was made after residents voiced concerns about residential neighborhood areas in the DORA that lacked retail establishments. The DORA will legally allow residents to purchase and openly carry alcoholic beverages from participating bars and restaurants, and then take those drinks with them outside and into other participating businesses and retail shops within the designated area. More below: https://www.columbusunderground.com/council-revises-arena-district-dora-following-resident-feedback-tm1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 16, 20213 yr I was down at the Banks yesterday grabbing some lunch and watch the Reds game on the large video board. I overheard 3-4 families that were from out of town talking about the DORA area and how cool it was to be able to hang out there and have a drink. Pretty cool to hear visitors praise the city's amenities with regards to this.
March 18, 20223 yr Cincinnati suburb plans DORA open container district at major development A Cincinnati suburb has plans to turn the city's crown jewel, a massive outdoor park development, into an open container district. Blue Ash City Council on March 24 will hold a public hearing to discuss a designated outdoor refreshment area (DORA) that would cover Summit Park at the former Blue Ash Airport, as well as the Neighborhoods at Summit Park, a 100-acre mixed-use development. ... The Cincinnati region is currently home to 12 DORA districts: The Banks development between Paul Brown Stadium and Great American Ball Park Cheviot, three blocks along Harrison Avenue Downtown Hamilton Harrison, along a stretch of Harrison Avenue Liberty Center, the massive mixed-use development north of Cincinnati Loveland, in the historic downtown area along the bike trail Mason, along several blocks of its Main Street Downtown Milford Montgomery, through its Heritage District, Old Montgomery Gateway District and the Marketplace New Richmond, along its Front Street Sharonville, in the Loop in Sharonville downtown Wyoming in its downtown and Village Green. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/03/18/cincinnati-suburb-plans-dora-at-major-development.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
March 19, 20223 yr We have 9 in Columbus--https://www.experiencecolumbus.com/blog/post/where-to-find-a-dora-in-columbus
March 19, 20223 yr ^^ Downtown Akron has a DORA, as does the Oregon District in Dayton https://spectrumnews1.com/oh/columbus/news/2020/10/07/akron-debuts-designated-outdoor-refreshment-area-downtown http://www.theoregondistrict.org/dora Hell, Tipp City has one... all that's left is for Stryker to get one.
May 27, 20223 yr The region’s latest outdoor drinking area in Westwood is open Greater Cincinnati’s latest designated outdoor refreshment area (DORA) is now open. A ribbon cutting for the Westwood DORA was scheduled this week but rained out. Nevertheless, patrons can walk down Harrison Avenue from Stathem Avenue to Kling Avenue with an alcoholic beverage sold by one of the establishments on the route. A DORA allows patrons 21 years of age and older to purchase alcoholic beverages from participating, permitted businesses in a designated cup then sip and shop within a defined area. Ohio lawmakers legalized outdoor drinking areas in law effective in April 2015. A DORA beverage cannot be taken from one alcohol-serving establishment to another. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/05/27/westwood-drinking-area-open.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 23, 20222 yr Looks like Hyde Park and College Hill will be the newest DORA areas in the city of Cincinnati.
August 11, 20222 yr According to Clifton Town Meeting's Fall newsletter, the Clifton Business Association is talking to the City of Cincinnati to start a DORA. They expect public engagement sessions will be held in late fall, followed by a survey during the winter. So still pretty preliminary but that would be Cincinnati's 5th DORA. It looks like the edition is not on their website yet but it should appear on this page in the future.
August 11, 20222 yr I was under the impression that the DORA program only allowed so many of these districts per city, based on population. For some reason, I thought Cincinnati was only limited to 3 of them. Was the law updated to uncap the number of DORA districts in larger cities? Not complaining about another one of these at all by the way, I think DORA is an excellent idea. One of the few things Louisiana leads the country on are their laws surrounding open containers and I think it's great that we have this program to inch in that direction.
August 11, 20222 yr Meanwhile, Indiana has no restrictions on the open carrying of alcohol in public spaces. Get it together, DeWine. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 11, 20222 yr It's funny, because the main argument people have against open containers is that they'll create a "party" atmosphere. But the reality is, if you say "only these small areas can be open container" it just concentrates those people who DO want to party outdoors into smaller areas, thereby being the cause of the issues. It's exactly why most places that allow open containers everywhere, like Indiana, nobody even realizes because it's just a regular thing that isn't trying to be forced into a single district or street.
August 11, 20222 yr There might be a real benefit to limiting where open container is permitted. DORA districts have helped revitalize older main street and downtown districts because the activity is concentrated. If you can do it anywhere, those areas would lose that advantage and marketing.
August 12, 20222 yr I was in Mariemont recently and was surprised to learn they have a small DORA at their Square. 4000 Plainville Rd, Mariemont Bounded by Wooster Pike, Oak Street, Murray Avenue and Madisonville Road. Monday-Thursday 5-10 p.m., Friday 5 p.m. to midnight, Saturday-Sunday noon to midnight "It's just fate, as usual, keeping its bargain and screwing us in the fine print..." - John Crichton
August 12, 20222 yr 19 hours ago, jmicha said: It's funny, because the main argument people have against open containers is that they'll create a "party" atmosphere. But the reality is, if you say "only these small areas can be open container" it just concentrates those people who DO want to party outdoors into smaller areas, thereby being the cause of the issues. It's exactly why most places that allow open containers everywhere, like Indiana, nobody even realizes because it's just a regular thing that isn't trying to be forced into a single district or street. i dk about doing something like no restrictions at all, i prefer the brit method where you can take a drink outside in front of the pub. i would leave it at that rather than walking around. otherwise in ohio dora seems a very good compromise as it leaves municipalities with control to make one and take it away or move it if it gets out of hand or something.
August 12, 20222 yr 13 minutes ago, YABO713 said: ..... annnnnnnnnnd Cleveland still has none speaking of that, do any ohio college towns have one? i would bet no. i would hope no for their sake lol.
August 12, 20222 yr ^Oxford has one. When it first started, the DORA was not in operation during the school year. I believe this school year will be the first test of DORA operating during the school year.
February 1, 20232 yr Cleveland developer wants to add 'designated outdoor refreshment area' on E. 4th Street Cleveland developer Ari Maron is leading an effort to tap some unused tax increment financing money to help redevelop the city's East Fourth Street entertainment and residential neighborhood. "The idea is to create the first outdoor refreshment area in the city of Cleveland," Maron, a partner in MRN Ltd., a family-owned real estate development, told members of Cleveland City Council's Development, Planning and Sustainability Committee on Tuesday. Maron was referring to a "designated outdoor refreshment area," or DORA, which was enabled in 2016 by Ohio law. These areas allow patrons to walk around outside with their alcoholic drinks within a designated area. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2023/02/01/developer-wants-to-add-dora-on-e-fourth-street.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 2, 20232 yr Quick q: what are the locations of DORAs in Cuyahoga Co? Figure this is a better source than googling lol
April 21, 20232 yr East Fourth Street expects to receive approval for city’s first permanent outdoor drinking area Downtown Cleveland is one step closer to getting the city’s first designated outdoor refreshment area, or DORA. The Cleveland Planning Commission is set to approve the DORA on Friday, which would allow patronsonthe East Fourth Street corridor to have alcohol in designated plastic cups while outside the bars and restaurants. Ari Maron, the owner and developer of East Fourth Street, said this is a part of a “holistic approach” to the address post-COVID challenges. Maron said the DORA, if approved, would be a pilot that would only be at East Fourth Street. He said he hoped the DORA would expand to other parts of lower Euclid Avenue and Prospect Avenue. More below: https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2023/04/east-fourth-street-expects-to-receive-approval-for-citys-first-permanent-outdoor-drinking-area.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
April 28, 20232 yr Do people have thoughts on whether or not FCC will ask for a DORA after Columbia Parkway is redesigned and/or the arena we all know is coming is built? Cincinnati currently has 4 and they can only have 6 so I'm curious if there will be a scramble or political fight for that 6th one.
April 28, 20232 yr Author Cincinnati has 4 DORA districts? (also, you said Columbia Parkway, but obviously meant Central)
April 30, 20232 yr On 4/28/2023 at 11:18 AM, ryanlammi said: Cincinnati has 4 DORA districts? (also, you said Columbia Parkway, but obviously meant Central) Lolol yes. I do that way too much. But yes, the current 4 are: The Banks Westwood College Hill Hyde Park Square They also have to be reviewed and renewed every 5 years. If we end up hitting the limit I guess that could be a future political fight but I figure it's probably more likely that the state would increase the limit.
May 24, 20232 yr Cheers: Dayton clears way for DORA expansion Daytonians may soon be able to carry a beer or cocktail throughout downtown in a move expected to ease strains on businesses in the city's urban core. Dayton City Commissioners on Wednesday approved expanding downtown's Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area (DORA) by over nine times. The Ohio Division of Liquor Control must now give the final OK, something officials expect to take a few weeks – with sights set on a mid-June implementation. Dayton's current DORA spans roughly 40 acres, mainly encompassing the Oregon District. Under the plans passed Wednesday, the outdoor drinking area would balloon to 391 acres, covering most of downtown Dayton – including the Oregon District. ... To ensure downtown stays clean, Gudorf said participating businesses would be asked to sign a "good neighbor agreement," which essentially asks owners to serve responsibly and take care of the block they reside on. The Downtown Dayton Partnership will also purchase an additional 35 trash receptacles for downtown. In addition, the City Commission can dissolve the DORA at any time. "It's everyone's responsibility to take care of downtown," she said, stressing the organization's commitment to a safe and clean downtown. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2023/05/24/downtown-dayton-dora-expansion.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
June 14, 20232 yr See when Dayton's expanded DORA will open Downtown Dayton won't be dry for much longer. The expanded Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area (DORA), which will cover much of downtown Dayton, received final approval from the State of Ohio Liquor Control Board. The new boundaries, which will increase by over nine times, are set to begin Wednesday. Dayton's current DORA spans roughly 40 acres, mainly encompassing the Oregon District. Under the new boundaries, the outdoor drinking area would balloon to 391 acres, covering most of downtown Dayton – including the Oregon District. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2023/06/13/dayton-dora-open.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 5, 20231 yr Survey results are in. Has the downtown Dayton DORA been a success? Just months after downtown Dayton expanded its designated outdoor refreshment area (DORA), business owners are already seeing positive effects. The DORA grew over nine times earlier this summer in an attempt to ease strains on businesses in the city's urban core. The Downtown Dayton Partnership (DDP) — which proposed the expanded DORA — released Thursday initial survey results on the expanded DORA, which showed many downtown businesses have seen positive effects since its launch in June. Over 60% of respondents have recorded an increase in business. "We've seen an overwhelmingly positive response to DORA since the new boundaries went into effect," said Elizabeth Mills, community engagement manager for DDP, in a statement. "Comments from participating businesses, downtown residents, and the public have been overall positive. We continue to work closely with our downtown community to ensure we are hearing all feedback and keeping the program beneficial and up-to-date." More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2023/08/31/downtown-dayton-dora-survey.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
November 17, 20231 yr Not really development related, but not sure where else to put it. Downtown leaders are seeking feedback on the creation of a new DORA, that would connect into Franklinton. https://downtowncolumbus.com/dora/
November 17, 20231 yr Feedback Sought for Downtown/Franklinton DORA Designated Outdoor Refreshment Areas (DORAs) have quietly become a pivotal tool for building entertainment destinations throughout Central Ohio. And while they’ve mostly cropped up in suburban communities, Downtown is finally ready to get in on the action. The Columbus Downtown Development Corporation (CDDC) along with the Capital Crossroads Special Improvement District (SID), City of Columbus and Franklinton Board of Trade are leading the effort to establish a DORA that would encompass nearly 400 acres (approx 0.62 square miles) of Downtown Columbus and East Franklinton. “As part of the 2022 Downtown Strategic Planning process, the community was eager to see increased connectivity between nodes of activity in and around Downtown and Franklinton,” explained Amy Taylor, President of CDDC. “The proposed Center City DORA can be a great tool to increase pedestrian activity and bolster small businesses in the area. We’ve studied other communities who have effectively and safely implemented a DORA and are excited about the possibility of establishing a DORA in Downtown.” More below: https://columbusunderground.com/feedback-sought-for-downtown-franklinton-dora-we1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 12, 20241 yr Downtown/Franklinton DORA on Track for Spring Launch On Wednesday evening, a public input session on the proposed DORA (designated outdoor refreshment area) for Downtown Columbus and Franklinton was hosted at Wolf’s Ridge Brewing. Amy Taylor, President of the Columbus Downtown Development Corporation (CDDC) provided an overview of the program, which was announced in November, and the progress made thus far. “I think everyone is trying to figure out, post-COVID, how to really make the Downtown center city the best it can be in this new light,” she stated. “We’re no longer just a corporate center — we have to evolve. Our Downtown has become a neighborhood center. The DORA isn’t a silver bullet, but it is one arrow in the quiver for us to continue that evolution.” Partners that are working on the DORA application along with CDDC include the Capital Crossroads Special Improvement District and the Franklinton Board of Trade. The Arena District has a separate DORA that was established in 2021 — the first of six available for the City of Columbus. More below: https://columbusunderground.com/downtown-franklinton-dora-on-track-for-spring-launch-we1/ & https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/01/11/downtown-dora-scioto-mile-drinking-downtown.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 1, 20241 yr Columbus City Council moves downtown DORA forward You could soon stroll the Scioto Mile in downtown Columbus with a cocktail in hand. Columbus City Council Monday night approved an application to create the City Center DORA. The state of Ohio still has to approve the application before the designated outdoor refreshment area would go into effect. If approved by the state, the DORA would start on Friday, May 24. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/04/30/dora-downtown-columbus-approval-city.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 2, 20241 yr City Council Approves Downtown DORA Downtown Columbus is one step closer to getting its Designated Outdoor Refreshment Area (DORA). Dubbed the City Center DORA, Columbus City Council approved the plan for the DORA at its meeting on April 29. Pending the final hurdle – state approval – the City Center DORA is expected to launch on May 24. The DORA will be in place daily, from 11 a.m. – 10 p.m. A partnership between the city, Capital Crossroads Special Improvement District, the Franklinton Board of Trade and Downtown Columbus, Inc., the DORA will allow patrons to purchase drinks at participating establishments (in a designated cup) and sip and stroll within the bounds of the area. Patrons can enjoy their drinks in the public right-of-way, parks like Columbus Commons or the Scioto Mile, and other non-alcohol serving establishments. (No buying a drink at one bar and taking it into another.) More below: https://columbusunderground.com/city-council-approves-downtown-dora-sp1/ "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 2, 20241 yr Cleveland Heights City Council is considering a DORA for the Cedar Lee district. https://myemail-api.constantcontact.com/Cleveland-Heights-City-News-Friday--April-19--2024.html?soid=1115396448413&aid=50ymjuRHXXQ
May 29, 20241 yr Downtown Columbus DORA now in full swing Columbus' City Center DORA is up and running. The designated outdoor refreshment area was approved by the state on Friday and went into effect that day. Columbus City Council approved the DORA in April. City Center DORA is in operation seven days a week from 11:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. The DORA, which was announced late last year, spans downtown Columbus and crosses the Scioto River into Franklinton. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2024/05/28/dora.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
May 29, 20241 yr On 4/21/2023 at 3:42 PM, ColDayMan said: East Fourth Street expects to receive approval for city’s first permanent outdoor drinking area Downtown Cleveland is one step closer to getting the city’s first designated outdoor refreshment area, or DORA. The Cleveland Planning Commission is set to approve the DORA on Friday, which would allow patronsonthe East Fourth Street corridor to have alcohol in designated plastic cups while outside the bars and restaurants. Ari Maron, the owner and developer of East Fourth Street, said this is a part of a “holistic approach” to the address post-COVID challenges. Maron said the DORA, if approved, would be a pilot that would only be at East Fourth Street. He said he hoped the DORA would expand to other parts of lower Euclid Avenue and Prospect Avenue. More below: https://www.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2023/04/east-fourth-street-expects-to-receive-approval-for-citys-first-permanent-outdoor-drinking-area.html Did this ever happen?
May 29, 20241 yr 19 minutes ago, Henke said: Did this ever happen? Last I heard they had to get special bollards or something for the area. This was a month or two ago.
May 29, 20241 yr 23 minutes ago, GISguy said: Last I heard they had to get special bollards or something for the area. This was a month or two ago. And that will have to start in City Council's sub-committee for ballards... and then will need to be reviewed by building dept... then will head back to sub-committee for comment.... then, once passed, will go to council, which will then be referred to a consultant to assess how bollards promote inclusivity... once that report is done in 2026, the city can purchase the bollards but not install them until a study of the average daily foot traffic on E. 4th is finalized in 2027.
May 29, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, YABO713 said: And that will have to start in City Council's sub-committee for ballards... and then will need to be reviewed by building dept... then will head back to sub-committee for comment.... then, once passed, will go to council, which will then be referred to a consultant to assess how bollards promote inclusivity... once that report is done in 2026, the city can purchase the bollards but not install them until a study of the average daily foot traffic on E. 4th is finalized in 2027. You forgot the public meeting. Now you have to start over from the beginning.
May 29, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, YABO713 said: And that will have to start in City Council's sub-committee for ballards... and then will need to be reviewed by building dept... then will head back to sub-committee for comment.... then, once passed, will go to council, which will then be referred to a consultant to assess how bollards promote inclusivity... once that report is done in 2026, the city can purchase the bollards but not install them until a study of the average daily foot traffic on E. 4th is finalized in 2027. It is insane (after looking thru this thread) that Cleveland doesn’t have any DORAs yet.
May 29, 20241 yr 37 minutes ago, freefourur said: You forgot the public meeting. Now you have to start over from the beginning. Bollard Brouhaha: Three-Member Block Club Blocks Blocks on Busy Cleveland Street Rusty Rockwell, Cleveland.com In an unexpected twist, a three-member block club in Cleveland, Ohio, situated on the lively E 4th Street, has found themselves at odds with a proposed safety measure: bollards intended to enhance the street's safety and functionality. Despite the well-meaning intentions behind the installation, these community activists argue that the bollards could have unintended consequences, sparking a passionate debate about the best path forward for this iconic pedestrian thoroughfare.
May 29, 20241 yr 3 people deciding the fate. What a joke. Nvm I see the author lol. But it could be a believable cleveland.com article these days. Edited May 29, 20241 yr by WindyBuckeye
May 29, 20241 yr What is the rationale for bollards? I can't see how a DORA necessitates bollards. The street either needs boards or it doesn't, I don't see what difference a DORA makes. What am I missing?
March 7Mar 7 DORA proposed for Fairport Harbor. Apparently Madison already has one-- "The village’s proposed DORA extends from the Fairport Harbor Marine Museum and Lighthouse at the intersection of High and Second streets to The Pompadour restaurant at 320 High St., and includes Memorial Park on Third Street, between Eagle and Plum streets." http://www.mainstreetpainesville.org/
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