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11 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

This doesn’t include a 20 story building though. So maybe they just talked about it, but didn’t have actual plans yet. 

 

Yes it does. It's a future phase, so it's obviously subject to change, but the 20 story tower is listed on the map.

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I like that fact that they have plans for that parcel of land and the fact its a 20 story concept....i dont know if i like the fact its for senior living.  Not that i'm anti-senior living, but with this area being the newest buzz, it just seems a little out of place to me. 

18 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Yes it does. It's a future phase, so it's obviously subject to change, but the 20 story tower is listed on the map.

I see the actual information. I was searching if they had actually shown any of the building yet. The way the article was talking, it made it sound like the presented the plans with the commission, so I was hoping they had renderings of it. 

36 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I see the actual information. I was searching if they had actually shown any of the building yet. The way the article was talking, it made it sound like the presented the plans with the commission, so I was hoping they had renderings of it. 

 

Oh gotcha. My point was "the drawing" mentioned in the article was that slide from their presentation. No renderings have been released.

6 hours ago, OhioFinest said:

I like that fact that they have plans for that parcel of land and the fact its a 20 story concept....i dont know if i like the fact its for senior living.  Not that i'm anti-senior living, but with this area being the newest buzz, it just seems a little out of place to me. 

 

Agreed. I don't think it will fit. Seniors at the Waterford and Miranova is part of the reason the fountains and concert stage at Milestone aren't used to their full potential. 

 

Putting senior housing there is begging them to petition council to put limits on the use and hours. And yes, by moving there you accept you are moving next to a stadium but that won't stop them from throwing fits. 

3 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

 

Agreed. I don't think it will fit. Seniors at the Waterford and Miranova is part of the reason the fountains and concert stage at Milestone aren't used to their full potential. 

 

Putting senior housing there is begging them to petition council to put limits on the use and hours. And yes, by moving there you accept you are moving next to a stadium but that won't stop them from throwing fits. 

I agree. It does seem out of place.

 

luckily the article points out that the developers are unsure if the 3rd phase will stay as senior housing at this point. 

On 3/16/2021 at 5:40 AM, cbussoccer said:

The team released a new rendering of what is now being called the "Astor Park" neighborhood.

 

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With a name derived from the birthplace of American soccer, Astor Park pays homage to the location where the game was officially made a national sport. Founded in New York City in what was the time’s most noteworthy hotel – Astor House – where, in April 1913, Thomas Cahill founded the United States Football Association, which later became the United States Soccer Federation. 

 

Pizzuti, Haslam Sports Group, and their development team have released new contextual renderings of the neighborhood, which highlights the stadium; office and residential components; a public parking garage; and the riverfront park. Scheduled to open in July 2021, the stadium is slated to host soccer, entertainment, and corporate events year-round. The second phase of construction within the neighborhood will focus on the residential component and is expected to break ground in Q4 2021 with an estimate completion date of Q2 2023. 

 

https://www.columbuscrewsc.com/post/2021/03/16/pizzuti-companies-and-haslam-sports-group-announce-name-neighborhood-and-mixed-use?utm_campaign=Astor Park&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=Astor Park Release Twitter

 

Here's a few more renderings of the neighborhood:

 

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This kind of development is exactly what the Haslams should also be building next to First Energy Stadium in Cleveland.  There are rumors of the Haslams being involved in wanting to develop the land surrounding the stadium and Astor Park is a great blueprint.

12 hours ago, NightNectar said:

I agree. It does seem out of place.

 

luckily the article points out that the developers are unsure if the 3rd phase will stay as senior housing at this point. 

 

Hopefully they reconsider the senior housing part for many of the reasons already listed. I do think the 3rd parcel and the triangular piece of land east of the new stadium are ripe for 12+ story residential development. It just seems so ideally situated to take advantage of all the nearby amenities as well as for the views of the stadiums, downtown, Franklinton, and even Grandview Yard and OSU in the distance. 

Found these in the downtown review file for next week. About time a parking garage gets a little bit of design. It will also have solar panels on the roof. 
 

Sorry for the low res, had to screen shot. 

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Finally a garage with a little something something! I was pretty disappointed with the Franklinton garage designs being how unique the district architecture is becoming... and I can't even discuss the new convention center garage *sigh*

33 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

Finally a garage with a little something something! I was pretty disappointed with the Franklinton garage designs being how unique the district architecture is becoming... and I can't even discuss the new convention center garage *sigh*

Yeah, I will always be disappointed with the peninsula garage. Maybe it will get a little upgrade before it’s built, but I doubt it.

Looks great and I like the mural being implemented. Also it really doesn’t take much to turn a garage into something aesthetically pleasing so when developers don’t do it it sticks out like a sore thumb. 

26 minutes ago, 614love said:

Looks great and I like the mural being implemented. Also it really doesn’t take much to turn a garage into something aesthetically pleasing so when developers don’t do it it sticks out like a sore thumb. 

Exactly, and this one is a perfect example of that. It’s just some perforated aluminum installed at a slant. This garage would look horrible without that on it. 
 

With every part of this development looking pretty good, it gives me hope that the possible 20 story building would have a great look. Hopefully all these apartments fill up pretty fast and they decide to build it sooner rather than later. 

Now THAT is a parking garage..finally!!  I hope this garage will sort of reset the standard for future garages being built.  Columbus should tell all developers, it needs to be in this league or its a "no go".  That will add some nice variance to the area. 

Nice.

 

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FINALLY....A pick that shows this angle of the new stadium.  Almost all of the pics are from the other side of the stadium.  They have been keeping this side a big secret from us.  Looks absolutely fantastic.

On 3/19/2021 at 6:55 AM, OhioFinest said:

Now THAT is a parking garage..finally!!  I hope this garage will sort of reset the standard for future garages being built.  Columbus should tell all developers, it needs to be in this league or its a "no go".  That will add some nice variance to the area. 

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Columbus should tell all developers, it needs to be in this league or its a "no go".

This! 

Parking Garage Design Unveiled for Newly Renamed Development

 

The mixed-use development formerly known as Confluence Village will now be called Astor Park, and the parking garage planned for it will get a first review from the Downtown Commission this week.

 

As work continues on the new Crew Stadium next door, the Pizzuti Companies and its partners have been unveiling new elements of the development to the commission piece by piece – first the planned office building, then the 440-unit residential portion, and now the garage.

 

Columbus-based architecture firm Moody Nolan will present its design for the five-story structure during a virtual meeting scheduled for Tuesday, March 23.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/parking-garage-design-unveiled-for-newly-renamed-development-bw1

 

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13 hours ago, ColDayMan said:

Parking Garage Design Unveiled for Newly Renamed Development

 

The mixed-use development formerly known as Confluence Village will now be called Astor Park, and the parking garage planned for it will get a first review from the Downtown Commission this week.

 

As work continues on the new Crew Stadium next door, the Pizzuti Companies and its partners have been unveiling new elements of the development to the commission piece by piece – first the planned office building, then the 440-unit residential portion, and now the garage.

 

Columbus-based architecture firm Moody Nolan will present its design for the five-story structure during a virtual meeting scheduled for Tuesday, March 23.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/parking-garage-design-unveiled-for-newly-renamed-development-bw1

 

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Looks fantastic and (as mentioned upthread) there really isnt much going on here. Punctured metal panels, cut at angles; glass facade on stairwells; masonry on the lower level concrete. This and the new Wex med garage NEED to set a precedent for garage "masking" standards in the city. 

It looks like about half of the seats on the east side of the stadium have now been installed.

 

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4 hours ago, Columbo said:

The Dispatch is reporting that the new Crew Stadium will host its first game on July 3 - when the Crew plays the New England Revolution at 5 p.m. - and the game will be broadcasted on ESPN:

 

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/2021/03/24/new-crew-stadium-scheduled-to-open-july-3-for-crew-vs-revolution/6982023002/

This has come along so fast...games being played in just a few months! 

On 3/22/2021 at 7:57 PM, ColDayMan said:

Parking Garage Design Unveiled for Newly Renamed Development

 

The mixed-use development formerly known as Confluence Village will now be called Astor Park, and the parking garage planned for it will get a first review from the Downtown Commission this week.

 

As work continues on the new Crew Stadium next door, the Pizzuti Companies and its partners have been unveiling new elements of the development to the commission piece by piece – first the planned office building, then the 440-unit residential portion, and now the garage.

 

Columbus-based architecture firm Moody Nolan will present its design for the five-story structure during a virtual meeting scheduled for Tuesday, March 23.

 

More below:

https://www.columbusunderground.com/parking-garage-design-unveiled-for-newly-renamed-development-bw1

 

Crew-stadium-garage-1-1150x550.jpg

I can't believe the number of negative comments this has over at CU.

I promise i love our new stadium and I don’t want to be this guy but......I saw a video of Cincinnati’s stadium doing some kind of light show on the exterior that was super cool and I got very jealous. The lighting feature may have just put their stadium over the top for me as far as aesthetics. I think we will have a much better game day experience because of location and how loud it will get. 

2 hours ago, 614love said:

I promise i love our new stadium and I don’t want to be this guy but......I saw a video of Cincinnati’s stadium doing some kind of light show on the exterior that was super cool and I got very jealous. The lighting feature may have just put their stadium over the top for me as far as aesthetics. I think we will have a much better game day experience because of location and how loud it will get. 

Yea, if you would switch our stadiums the design of each would make more sense in terms of where each is located... 

5 minutes ago, jebleprls22 said:

Yea, if you would switch our stadiums the design of each would make more sense in terms of where each is located... 

 

How so?

1 minute ago, jebleprls22 said:

Yea, if you would switch our stadiums the design of each would make more sense in terms of where each is located... 

 

Very true, the dark and boxy structure of the crew stadium would be stunning in OTR, while the euro bubble would look amazing in the AD haha. What I have noticed is that as it stands (while under construction at least), the Crew stadium seems to be the more attractive design during the day, while the FCC stadium is a show stealer at night. It's a balance I guess, though I am hoping that the Crew get some sort of exterior/architectural lighting to really make it pop. 

 

Either way, they're both pretty impressive stadiums, even more so considering 2ish years ago the state was possibly about to have zero MLS teams before FCC got in and the Crew was being held hostage by the snake. 

I honestly do not like the Cincinnati stadium. I am not sure what it is, but to me it isn’t anywhere on the level of crews new stadium. The new stadium may also add lights at some point in time, but I also don’t think it needs it. 

7 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

Very true, the dark and boxy structure of the crew stadium would be stunning in OTR, while the euro bubble would look amazing in the AD


I disagree. I like the contrast between the ultra modern Cincy venue and the very historic district of OTR. I also disagree that the “dark and boxy” structure of the crews place would be stunning in OTR. I think if you flip the crews stadium to OTR it wouldn’t stand out at all, the site would be totally wrong for that design.

While I think both stadium's are awesome and will be two of the best in the league once they open, I really don't get the idea that the stadiums would look better in each other's place. I think the straight-edged design of Crew Stadium is going to look really cool as you drive/walk down Nationwide and emerge from under the railroad bridges. I think an arena type stadium like FCC's would look out of place there. I also think Crew Stadium will be able to mesh with it's surrounding development better because of it's shorter and more box-like design. FCC's stadium would be way too imposing on the surrounding developments in my opinion. 

 

Regardless, they are both awesome and I still can't believe we will be opening two of the best soccer stadiums in country here in Ohio just a couple months apart from each other. 

13 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

I honestly do not like the Cincinnati stadium. I am not sure what it is, but to me it isn’t anywhere on the level of crews new stadium.


Im not throwing shade but you are definitely in the minority, fans and media league wide are freaking out over cincys stadium and have pretty much given it the crown of best in class by far before it’s even open, inside and out(wait until you see the interior finishes they are super).

 

16 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

The new stadium may also add lights at some point in time, but I also don’t think it needs it. 

The Crew stadium is interesting because the material used makes it difficult for me to imagine adding any kind of elaborate lighting. In my opinion I would just let it be and not do anything that’s unnatural to it’s design where you risk it looking tacky. 

 

11 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

I think an arena type stadium like FCC's would look out of place there. I also think Crew Stadium will be able to mesh with it's surrounding development better because of it's shorter and more box-like design. FCC's stadium would be way too imposing on the surrounding developments in my opinion. 


This is spot on, both cities got what they needed.

The FC Cincinnati stadium is in the West End, not OTR, Columbusites.

5 minutes ago, 646empire said:

wait until you see the interior finishes they are super

 

Crew stadium is going to give it a run for its money when it comes to interior finishes. I think there's a good chance we end up with two of the top five stadiums in the league here in Ohio, they might even be the top two. LAFC's stadium looks pretty amazing and Minnesota's is pretty nice, but I think the location of Crew Stadium and West End Stadium will put them over the top.

 

But seriously, look at some of these amenities in Crew Stadium. Holy crap.

 

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14 minutes ago, 646empire said:


Im not throwing shade but you are definitely in the minority, fans and media league wide are freaking out over cincys stadium and have pretty much given it the crown of best in class by far before it’s even open, inside and out(wait until you see the interior finishes they are super).

 

The Crew stadium is interesting because the material used makes it difficult for me to imagine adding any kind of elaborate lighting. In my opinion I would just let it be and not do anything that’s unnatural to it’s design where you risk it looking tacky. 

 


This is spot on, both cities got what they needed.

That’s fair and I’ll take the criticism. To me it just looks like a mini version of every NFL stadium in the country and that isn’t interesting to me. It has a feel of, let’s make it giant and stand out by size and lighting. 
 

Crew stadium seems to stand out on it’s own, and I like the sunken down feel of it. That’s just my opinion, but both stadiums are great in the long run. 

8 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

That’s fair and I’ll take the criticism. To me it just looks like a mini version of every NFL stadium in the country and that isn’t interesting to me. It has a feel of, let’s make it giant and stand out by size and lighting. 
 

Crew stadium seems to stand out on it’s own, and I like the sunken down feel of it. That’s just my opinion, but both stadiums are great in the long run. 

 

Crew Stadium is definitely more unique in its external design than West End Stadium. West End Stadium has been compared to Red Bull Arena numerous times because it does look very similar, although West End Stadium is the much improved version of RBA. You can definitely find many stadiums around the world that are designed similar to West End Stadium because it is more of the classic "arena" design, but it's a great design nonetheless. 

12 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

. I think there's a good chance we end up with two of the top five stadiums in the league here in Ohio


Yeah I think the top 2, and it’s gonna be that way until at least Miami which has a radical conceptual design. St Louis and Nashville along with Austin are basic and not interesting or particularly flashy at all. Ohio is going to be spoiled with these stadiums. 

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It will be interesting to see how well the stadium can be seen from 315 with the tree cover and the fact that it's not super tall.

So Austin's stadium is going to be pretty basic?

 

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8 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Crew Stadium is definitely more unique in its external design than West End Stadium. West End Stadium has been compared to Red Bull Arena numerous times because it does look very similar, although West End Stadium is the much improved version of RBA. You can definitely find many stadiums around the world that are designed similar to West End Stadium because it is more of the classic "arena" design, but it's a great design nonetheless. 


I think Redbull looks similar only in regards to it being “arena style” otherwise I don’t see it. Also exterior wise the cincy stadium and its lighting tech has never been done before on a sports stadium so it is really unique. I’m curious to see how the new surrounding development for both venues take shape in the future.

5 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

So Austin's stadium is going to be pretty basic?

 

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Very lol.

6 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

So Austin's stadium is going to be pretty basic?

 

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Have you seen pictures of it? It looks very cheap. Definitely not on the level of Columbus and Cincinnati. 

I just looked at some renderings and it doesn't look that bad but definitely not as nice as the Ohio ones. Lot of effort put into value engineering on the Austin one. More of an effort to save money with minimal material use, but of course their weather is better than ours.

Oh the Austin stadium had such a high bar to meet with all the drama, and the result just isn't it. It's absolutely one of the more basic stadiums in the league... so sad (cries fake tears)

 

I think what excites me is the build out around the crew stadium, and I really hope someone snatches up the two surface lots and buildings along Spring St. I would LOVE to see those demo'd and developed, kind of framing the gateway to the stadium along Nationwide and along Hocking.

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6 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

Oh the Austin stadium had such a high bar to meet with all the drama, and the result just isn't it. It's absolutely one of the more basic stadiums in the league... so sad (cries fake tears)

 

I think what excites me is the build out around the crew stadium, and I really hope someone snatches up the two surface lots and buildings along Spring St. I would LOVE to see those demo'd and developed, kind of framing the gateway to the stadium along Nationwide and along Hocking.

 

Nationwide owns the Jaeger Machine Co. building and parking lot. The building is currently being used for the stadium construction project.

 

The other building and parking lot appear to be owned by Arshot...

4 hours ago, 614love said:

I promise i love our new stadium and I don’t want to be this guy but......I saw a video of Cincinnati’s stadium doing some kind of light show on the exterior that was super cool and I got very jealous. The lighting feature may have just put their stadium over the top for me as far as aesthetics. I think we will have a much better game day experience because of location and how loud it will get. 

I thought I read somewhere Columbus was planning on having colored smoke come out of the Municipal Light smokestack on game day, I think that’s a pretty cool feature that Cincinnati does not have. Maybe they might add special lighting to it as well. 

3 minutes ago, .justin said:

The other building and parking lot appear to be owned by Arshot...

 

Well.... crap.

Cincys stadium is definitely impressive but I personally feel like that wow factor is really dependent on the light display spectacle. When it comes to the actual architecture, Cincys stadium just reminds me of the space ship, bubble look trend of alot of European stadiums of the past decade or so. Granted FCCs trumps what others have done, it's not that different than LAFC or Minnesota externally in my opinion, and looks like Red Bull Arena on the inside. Its impressive, for sure, but I like what we have better. Im not sure who's concourses or high end amenities are better, but I think our actual seating and stands and field is superior looking. Cincys feels very plain and open. Ours feels tighter, darker, and more intimate. 

 

When it comes to the exterior facades, I do wish we had something to rival that, even if it's not the same at all. I was hoping maybe there would be some way to make our angular mesh panels like shimmer or sparkle with light behind them. Something a little more discreet than what Cincy has but something that gives it a little pizazz.

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