19 hours ago, KJP said:

More Mississauga...

 

Toronto obsesses over angular planes, meanwhile Mississauga allows unlimited height and density directly adjacent to single family homes at City Centre.

 

(Image is a rendering for M City, which is like half built)

I love this, and wish it was done everywhere. 

completely agree

 

"Acclaimed American screenwriter and film director Paul Schrader took to his Facebook page over the weekend to discuss some of Toronto's negative qualities, which, according to his opinion, included the sheer number of identical-looking high-rises."

 

"When I first started going to Toronto in the 60s it was like a hip Boston," Schrader wrote. "It's now become the Manhattan skyline with Los Angeles sprawl. Many of the high rises that have been built in the past thirty years are indistinguishable from each other — like Sim City replicants." 

 

 

 

^ well yeah, kinda.

 

its still its going through its blando 1990s chicago condos and nyc 6th ave chelsea condos phase. 

 

also its fighting british apts legacy blandness.

 

but hey, they need the apts.

 

anyway, hopefully real architecture is the next era phase and not continued sao paulo-ness.

 

i think it will happen, you can see it coming already there in a little bit of M city.

 

^but what's New York's excuse for those awful monstrosities that have ruined the High Line? Oh that's right, rich developers have to make more money! Speaking of Chicago though, interesting video comparing Chi vs. Toronto

 

 

Look at what's happening right across the lake from us in southern Ontario. Not just Toronto. It's London, Kitchener-Waterloo, and Hamilton, too. But wow, look at Toronto!

 

Look at what's not happening on the US West Coast. There are currently more high-rises under construction in Miami than every West Coast state combined.

37 minutes ago, KJP said:

Look at what's happening right across the lake from us in southern Ontario. Not just Toronto. It's London, Kitchener-Waterloo, and Hamilton, too. But wow, look at Toronto!

 

Look at what's not happening on the US West Coast. There are currently more high-rises under construction in Miami than every West Coast state combined.

This is a snippet from this Business first article

 

Southern cities suffer from overbuilding

 

While space may be more expensive on the coasts, when looking at sheer volume of unused office space, Texas metros are among the top markets.

 

Behind New York (105.8 million square feet) and Chicago (58.1 million square feet) is Dallas-Fort Worth, with 52.8 million square feet of vacant office space worth $1.62 billion.

 

But despite the region’s high vacancy rates, developers continue to pour money into "trophy buildings," such as in Fort Worth’s Cultural District, in a flight-to-quality war that could leave the city littered with older buildings in need of costly repairs.

 

Houston is not far behind, with an empty 50 million square feet valued at $1.56 billion. Facing similar flight-to-quality storylines, developers are hoping new buildings close to the suburbs will be more likely to entice workers back to the office.

 

"To me, this evolution in office is more about metros and neighborhoods – where buildings, regardless of class, are either going to do quite well over the next few years or they’re going to become obsolete," Thomas LaSalvia told Ashley Fahey of The Business Journals. "It really turns out that the old saying 'location, location, location' is still incredibly valuable, and maybe more than ever in this asset class, as we move toward employees wanting to be in vibrant neighborhoods, where there actually are amenities even outside of what that Class A building can provide."

Ran across an interesting BM1 youtube video a couple of weeks ago.  Its main focus was The One, which was to be Toronto's first super tall (it might now get beat by another project).  The main discussion was how the building was in a bit of trouble and construction, while still on going, was slowing to a crawl for a variety of reasons.  But there was a lot of discussion regarding a variety of other housing issues in Toronto.  It did note, as pointed out by @KJP that the number of cranes in Toronto exceeds 200, more than 4x the closest North American city.  It also discuss the housing shortage in the city, as is common all over the world, especially affordable housing and offered the usual reasons.  But something I was not expecting, and found interesting, that even with the housing shortage, there apparently is  a condo crisis in downtown Toronto with a glut of units not moving, and apparently more than 60 projects are on hold or have been out right cancelled.  Can you imagine the number of cranes if that was not the case.

 

The problems seems to be that when the Toronto condo boom began 20-25 years ago, developers were throwing up high rise condo buildings mostly with investors in mind.  They tended to be boring, very small boxes that people really would not want to live in long term and are not attractive to families.  Now all these small aging units are flooding the market and apparently not selling.  Strange problem given the housing crisis.  Who says real estate is easy to understand.

Edited November 24, 2024Nov 24 by Htsguy

@Htsguy Where do you see that Toronto has 4x times as many cranes as the next closest North American city? That map suggests NYC is close behind and Toronto is only double that of Vancouver and 3x more than Miami.

4 minutes ago, KJP said:

@Htsguy Where do you see that Toronto has 4x times as many cranes as the next closest North American city? That map suggests NYC is close behind and Toronto is only double that of Vancouver and 3x more than Miami.

This fact was stated in the video I mentioned in my post.  More than 200 cranes, 4x more than any other city in North America. I guess I just took Fred Mills word for the stat.

Toronto metro tops 7 million. How can anyone afford to live there??

 

torono is a getting a wood tower —

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DF5u1LwptQ3/?igsh=aGo0ZW9wOTh4d2R2

22 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

torono is a getting a wood tower —

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DF5u1LwptQ3/?igsh=aGo0ZW9wOTh4d2R2

This is more along what I was hoping would be on the OSU campus. 
 

The one here will barely show any of the actual timber 

Edited February 16Feb 16 by VintageLife

even in booming, bustling Toronto the flagship department stores have bitten the dust. I remember when this was Simpsons, across the street from Eaton's (they were like the Macy's and Gimbel's of Toronto)