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I'd kill for the level of high-rise living that is found in Canadian cities. Even their suburbs have skylines now. Burnaby, North Vancouver, Mississauga, etc. all have impressive skylines and have hundreds of thousands of people each, partly as a result of building dense centers (although their suburban skylines are usually very anti-urban, but still).

 

100,000 people live on the Downtown peninsula in Vancouver which is 2.25 square miles. That's insanity and yet it's super comfortable, has far more park space than most places do, never feels stifling, etc. Their planning methods have worked out well in attracting all types of residential development that's organized in a manner which makes pedestrian scaled streets with NYC level densities. It works quite well.

 

It doesn't hurt Vancouver is naturally gorgeous though, something no Ohio city can compete with.

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And? They brought their money to Vancouver and it has greatly benefited the city. What exactly is your point?

 

Of all the places I've traveled the people in Vancouver, including those who were wealthy Chinese immigrants including a kid with a Lamborghini, were the friendliest.

When you visit the European capitals and see gold statues on the public buildings, that gold was mined by slave labor hundreds of years ago.  The Canadian condo towers funded by foreign dirty money are the same thing.  If you're dazzled by them, you're being fooled.   

In what manner? They are occupied, unlike real estate in, say, Manhattan that sits empty year round, they create an incredibly pleasant urban environment, and are laid out to create fantastic urban space that's accessible to everyone.

 

Vancouver is more than a flashy display of money. The reality of the city is one that is incredibly livable. These towers are part of that. I'm not particularly concerned if you think the money is "dirty" The reality is that it's developer money from Hong Kong, moved to Vancouver to protect it from the fear of seizure during the handover in 1997.

When you visit the European capitals and see gold statues on the public buildings, that gold was mined by slave labor hundreds of years ago.  The Canadian condo towers funded by foreign dirty money are the same thing.  If you're dazzled by them, you're being fooled.   

 

You're comparing Canadian immigration policies to centuries-old European slave labor? Seriously?? No one forced the immigrants to move to Canada and create market demand for housing construction. Indeed many immigrants had resources to get visas but many are refugees. All, not just the small numbers of the super-rich, came to Canada for a better life and are finding it. Get real.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I'm not talking about ordinary housing for people in ordinary situations.  It's a fact that much of what is fueling the hi-end housing boom in Canada (and in New York City and in London) is in part scumbags sheltering money they scammed in Russia, China, Arab countries, etc. in high-end real estate. 

 

Here is a blog post by an English aristocrat I posted on in January 2015:

http://francisfulford.blogspot.com/2014/12/london-house-prices-and-boris.html

 

In fact so concerned would I be about the ridiculous level of house prices in London that instead of promoting sales of the Battersea Power Station development in Malaysia I would have thought his time would be better spent in lobbying the Prime Minister to look at bringing in legislation to either heavily tax foreigners buying property in London or to restrict foreigners right to buy in London - and by the by - don't tell me it can't be done because the Swiss do it rather well.

High property prices are not a boom - they are a curse. Walking round London last night through Kensington and Chelsea  whole streets are in darkness with hardly a light showing in blocks of flats or rows of houses - so many are now owned by rich foreigners as 'investments.' Simple Edwardian terrace houses in Battersea and Fulham are now routinely fetching well over £1.0 million making them unaffordable to all but the highest paid and all Boris does is promote more sales of London property to more absentee so called 'investors' -it is a bad joke.

 

And here is a circa-2012 documentary re: Toronto's insane condo boom, which I have probably posted on this thread before:

 

 

 

High prices are being caused by significant, broad-based demand across all income sectors. You're greatly underestimating the scale of demand, who is demanding it and why they're demanding it. The population is growing exponentially in Toronto because it's a kick-butt city in a country with borders open to all.

 

There are two types of people in the world: those who live in Toronto and those want to live in Toronto. ;) That's why it's growing like crazy.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

Looks like Chinese foreign investment counted for 14% of all Toronto real estate transactions last year, or $9 billion Canadian. It was 33% and $12 billion in Vancouver!

 

Also, I love Toronto, but I don't think that it's the #1 choice for every person on earth.

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-23/chinese-buy-one-third-of-vancouver-homes-national-bank-estimate

 

See that little smiley-face emoticon in my message? Seriously though, Toronto is a damn attractive place to live. In a free market, price rises with popularity.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

The skyscraper boom is impressive from a sheer skyline and population growth perspective.

 

That said, lets be honest, probably over 70% of these towers are generic as hell looking, and are practically copy and pasted from one block to the next. The worst part is that block after block of Old historic Toronto architecture is being sacrificed in the process as well.

 

The skyscrapers have replaced very little historic stock. Most were built on former industrial land north of the main residential neighborhoods. I also don't understand the hate for the design. I guess you could say it's too repetitive, but I think it looks nice and gives Toronto a "look".

Yeah Toronto's development has mostly been on vastly underutilized, formerly industrial land. The first thousand feet of land in Toronto is all fill that was used to create land for industry back in the day and is where a huge portion of the newest development has occurred. There's a building about 400 feet inland that used to be on the end of a pier. This land is where the city has focused its efforts in recent decades.

Yeah Toronto's development has mostly been on vastly underutilized, formerly industrial land. The first thousand feet of land in Toronto is all fill that was used to create land for industry back in the day and is where a huge portion of the newest development has occurred. There's a building about 400 feet inland that used to be on the end of a pier. This land is where the city has focused its efforts in recent decades.

 

I remember what the plans were for the downtown waterfront back before the condo boom. The plans were for a Chicago style waterfront with lots of public access. Some of it was built, most of it wasn't. Then those plans disappeared and then the condos started popping up. Now, while there is still a fair amount access to Lake Ontario (more than Cleveland to Lake Erie), it's is decreasing not increasing which I don't feel is a good thing.

 

Honestly, there isn't a lot of natural beauty in the GTA. Locals like to tout the Don "Valley" but it is kind of a joke. Take Montreal. Mont Royal is an incredible park right in the center of the city. Then there is the amazing old "Ville" by the St. Lawrence waterfront. There's nothing in Toronto that can remotely touch this. In fact, the condos make it feel like it's moving in the other direction. You drive on the Gardiner and bit by bit the lake is being blocked by similar style buildings.

 

My uncle lived off of Victoria Park near the Toronto/Scarborough line. You could walk down to the end of his street and you were on a beach that everyone used. It was amazing and reminded me how far Cleveland has to go. But lake access days are coming to an end.

I remember going on a school trip to Toronto in 1994 where we went to a game in the skydome and went to the CN tower observation deck.  The area around them was a total wasteland.  That is where a lot of these condo towers have gone up.  I agree that Montreal is much more of a traditional city, but I remember its waterfront also being fairly inaccessible, but then again we were visiting in January and it was ridiculously cold and dreary. 

 

I remember going on a school trip to Toronto in 1994 where we went to a game in the skydome and went to the CN tower observation deck.  The area around them was a total wasteland.  That is where a lot of these condo towers have gone up.  I agree that Montreal is much more of a traditional city, but I remember its waterfront also being fairly inaccessible, but then again we were visiting in January and it was ridiculously cold and dreary. 

 

 

Montreal is rough place in January. You have to like snow, cold and dark. It's Mole City in the winter and half the population leaves for Florida or the Caribbean. Almost every building in downtown is connected by underground. I believe the city has the largest collection of urban tunnels on the planet.

 

I'm have a bias too, I love Montreal. It just blows the doors off of other Canadian cities despite being mostly condo free. Wild immigrant mix on top of the Frenglish people. Rude and friendly and no city like it in North America. I get the fascination with Toronto but it just doesn't feel urban in some ways.

 

There isn't a ton of access to the river but that's not my point. Montreal has natural and cultural areas that aren't comparable to Toronto before the condo boom. The lake is one of the few areas where there is beauty and it's being cut off. It's never a good thing for any city.

 

There is something magical about riding a boat to an off-shore island to look back at that Toronto skyline -- especially at night. It helps you forget what the city is like six months later.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

There is something magical about riding a boat to an off-shore island to look back at that Toronto skyline -- especially at night. It helps you forget what the city is like six months later.

 

I agree Ken. Then the magic is killed when you hear the roar of the DH8 taking off. People in Cleveland complain about lightly used Burke but people in Toronto are spending thousands of dollars a month to have views of an island housing a busy albeit small airport. And Porter desperately wants to expand there even though they were cut off at the knees recently.

^^^I'm not sure I get the "cutting off the waterfront" critique. I don't know Toronto well, but from casual observation, it looks like the primary waterfront trajectory has been from working pier (closed to the public) to development with publicly accessible promenade. How much of the condo boom been has actually been on the waterfront, versus the old industrial belt between main roadways and rail lines? Is the complaint about cutting off view corridors from older parts of downtown to the lake?

I agree Ken. Then the magic is killed when you hear the roar of the DH8 taking off. People in Cleveland complain about lightly used Burke but people in Toronto are spending thousands of dollars a month to have views of an island housing a busy albeit small airport. And Porter desperately wants to expand there even though they were cut off at the knees recently.

 

Roar? Never noticed it.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^^^I'm not sure I get the "cutting off the waterfront" critique. I don't know Toronto well, but from casual observation, it looks like the primary waterfront trajectory has been from working pier (closed to the public) to development with publicly accessible promenade. How much of the condo boom been has actually been on the waterfront, versus the old industrial belt between main roadways and rail lines? Is the complaint about cutting off view corridors from older parts of downtown to the lake?

 

The Lake Ontario shoreline extends far beyond downtown and there are multiple lake access points in Toronto. Many condos are being built along the lake with the promise of private access. Much like Miami. Bit by bit the lake area is being cut-off.

I agree Ken. Then the magic is killed when you hear the roar of the DH8 taking off. People in Cleveland complain about lightly used Burke but people in Toronto are spending thousands of dollars a month to have views of an island housing a busy albeit small airport. And Porter desperately wants to expand there even though they were cut off at the knees recently.

 

Roar? Never noticed it.

 

Ha, ha. Probably my bias, aviation geek always notices airplane noise.

^^So, like the Lakewood gold coast?  I guess not like the Lakewood gold coast if there are promises of public access. That's what I was envisioning when I read your comment. Happy to see that's not the case, at least.

 

EDIT: looking at the googlemaps, it looks like almost all of the shoreline is either publicly accessible or was privatized generations ago. Still not really seeing anything being cut-off in a literal sense.

^^So, like the Lakewood gold coast?  I guess not like the Lakewood gold coast if there are promises of public access. That's what I was envisioning when I read your comment. Happy to see that's not the case, at least.

 

EDIT: looking at the googlemaps, it looks like almost all of the shoreline is either publicly accessible or was privatized generations ago. Still not really seeing anything being cut-off in a literal sense.

Yeah, I go up there almost every summer and the lake access is awesome. No development cuts it off for miles around the center(re) city. All of the towers downtown are further inland.

That seems to be a common trend in Canada. Very few cities are really building large scale commercial office space. It seems like it's almost entirely residential.

 

yes toronto is a back office type city. that could change quickly though. in fact its hard to imagine it wont given the growth. ive heard canada isnt as business friendly as it recently is with immigration, so maybe they need some political and tax or whatever changes first.

^^So, like the Lakewood gold coast?  I guess not like the Lakewood gold coast if there are promises of public access. That's what I was envisioning when I read your comment. Happy to see that's not the case, at least.

 

EDIT: looking at the googlemaps, it looks like almost all of the shoreline is either publicly accessible or was privatized generations ago. Still not really seeing anything being cut-off in a literal sense.

Yeah, I go up there almost every summer and the lake access is awesome. No development cuts it off for miles around the center(re) city. All of the towers downtown are further inland.

 

Two Points:

 

-- Queen's Quay has been specifically redeveloped over the last five years to move condos along lakefront downtown and now they are moving in that direction. The only reason there hasn't been more lakefront development is the Gardiner and the rails. As Ken is showing, that's changing now. Also at some points, that lakefront "access" is single boardwalk around developments. There was a time prior to the condo boom when the City of Toronto wanted to link all the lakefront parks which are still scattered all over the place. That's never going to happen now. It's an opportunity permanently lost that could have transformed Toronto to match the standard barer of the Great Lakes access: Chicago. I like Toronto in many, many ways but they dropped the ball on this.

 

-- In West Toronto neighborhoods and Etobicoke, wherever Lake Shore Blvd. approaches the lake there are new condos going up or planned. If you're coming perpendicular from the lake, those properties are forming an effective barrier to Lake Ontario. The only reason Scarborough hasn't developed their part of the lake is because there are many bluffs on that part of the shoreline. What was cool about Toronto was that you could have a dense neighborhood of townhomes or clustered single family homes with easy walkable access to the lake. That is changing. You can cut down a side street but not through a condo property.

I guess I'm confused still, I'm looking at Google Maps and failing to see how any of the new development is forming an actual barrier at all. Pedestrian access from the street grid to the waterfront still exists and the waterfront itself is public. Sometimes there are condos on the lake side of the road, sure, but you can still access the waterfront publicly.

 

Unless we're talking about a visual barrier here...which I'm not sure I see as a problem really. But if you're a person on the street it doesn't look like any of the new development is doing anything other than filling in the empty lots and public space being built around them to access the waterfront from the road.

I guess I'm confused still, I'm looking at Google Maps and failing to see how any of the new development is forming an actual barrier at all. Pedestrian access from the street grid to the waterfront still exists and the waterfront itself is public. Sometimes there are condos on the lake side of the road, sure, but you can still access the waterfront publicly.

 

Unless we're talking about a visual barrier here...which I'm not sure I see as a problem really. But if you're a person on the street it doesn't look like any of the new development is doing anything other than filling in the empty lots and public space being built around them to access the waterfront from the road.

 

I was pretty clear. There are increasing examples of this. The waterfront is public, but getting to the waterfront increasingly is getting cut-off by private developers, especially as you go past the yacht clubs heading west from downtown Toronto.

No need to get snippy, I'm literally just asking a question since I'm not ultra familiar with the city's waterfront history.

 

But I'm still questioning how accurate it is. This land wasn't big public use space that was shrunken by developers to build on. What access has actually changed? Building on vacant industrial land or land that was originally a railyard doesn't decrease access for the public. In fact it seems like there's far more public space along the waterfront than before when you go back to older satellite images.

 

I'm just trying to understand what it is specifically you're speaking of.

No need to get snippy, I'm literally just asking a question since I'm not ultra familiar with the city's waterfront history.

 

But I'm still questioning how accurate it is. This land wasn't big public use space that was shrunken by developers to build on. What access has actually changed? Building on vacant industrial land or land that was originally a railyard doesn't decrease access for the public. In fact it seems like there's far more public space along the waterfront than before when you go back to older satellite images.

 

I'm just trying to understand what it is specifically you're speaking of.

 

No, it's OK, I'm not snippy. No worries. ;)

 

 

My uncle lived off of Victoria Park near the Toronto/Scarborough line. You could walk down to the end of his street and you were on a beach that everyone used. It was amazing and reminded me how far Cleveland has to go. But lake access days are coming to an end.

 

my great-aunt lived in the Beaches section on the east side (up from Queen St.) and I remember walking to Kew Beach (with its boardwalk) in the summer in the 60's. I think that whole area is all gentrified now and super-expensive. At least developers can't touch the waterfront there due to the public beach, right?? I hope.

 

 

My uncle lived off of Victoria Park near the Toronto/Scarborough line. You could walk down to the end of his street and you were on a beach that everyone used. It was amazing and reminded me how far Cleveland has to go. But lake access days are coming to an end.

 

my great-aunt lived in the Beaches section on the east side (up from Queen St.) and I remember walking to Kew Beach (with its boardwalk) in the summer in the 60's. I think that whole area is all gentrified now and super-expensive. At least developers can't touch the waterfront there due to the public beach, right?? I hope.

 

Small world EastVillage! My uncle lived right off of Queen about 15 houses from that boardwalk during the 70s and 80s before before he moved up to a place on Danforth. The neighborhoods are still there but who knows for how long!

I haven't been up there in such a long time that I can't offer a specific opinion on what's going on, but from what I remember the city really did feel cut off from the waterfront and there's no reason to give away what should be public assets to private developers, especially since there is no shortage of private capital investing in all areas of the city. 

 

By contrast, Cincinnati has always had a publicly-owned public landing that was part of its founding charter, along with a number of public squares.  Because of the precedent set by the public landing, there has been a continuous push to bring the entire riverfront under public ownership, a task that has been more or less achieved at this point.  It is my understanding that the Sawyer family still holds title to significant sections of Cincinnati's eastern riverfront that are currently public parks.  The family granted use of the land for parks purposes to the city about 50 years ago with very reasonable stipulations.  The family still has the power to take back the land if the city violates the terms of the deal. 

 

Two hi-rises exist and one more is planned on non-park land just behind the Sawyer land.  Those towers are both as close to the river as possible AND the residents obviously have free use of the parks.  So I'd bet that building a tower 100 feet back from water frontage with a public park is as valuable as a tower situated on the immediate water front.   

 

 

 

My uncle lived off of Victoria Park near the Toronto/Scarborough line. You could walk down to the end of his street and you were on a beach that everyone used. It was amazing and reminded me how far Cleveland has to go. But lake access days are coming to an end.

 

my great-aunt lived in the Beaches section on the east side (up from Queen St.) and I remember walking to Kew Beach (with its boardwalk) in the summer in the 60's. I think that whole area is all gentrified now and super-expensive. At least developers can't touch the waterfront there due to the public beach, right?? I hope.

 

Samll world EastVillage, my uncle lived right off of Queen about 15 houses from that boardwalk during the 70s and 80s before before he moved up to a place on Danforth. The neighborhoods are still there but who know for how long!

that's funny. My aunt was on Kenilworth near the corner of Norway, if you know where that is. Later (in the early 70's) she moved way up to the more suburban area of North York on Sheppard Ave. I can't even imagine how expensive those homes are now (easily in the several hundred thousand range, I would think, in both of those neighborhoods), but they were very modest. I remember once in the 5th grade I was staying there and started walking around by myself and got lost and I think I ended up on Danforth (maybe it was Dundas. I can't remember where everything is) or some major street further north. Not being accustomed to a big city, my aunt was worried when I was gone so long and pissed when I finally found my way back. I'm sure she thought I had been abducted, despite Toronto's reputation for being super-safe (especially so back in those days). My chances of being a victim of a crime were probably greater in Painesville! (probably still are-lol)

 

 

My uncle lived off of Victoria Park near the Toronto/Scarborough line. You could walk down to the end of his street and you were on a beach that everyone used. It was amazing and reminded me how far Cleveland has to go. But lake access days are coming to an end.

 

my great-aunt lived in the Beaches section on the east side (up from Queen St.) and I remember walking to Kew Beach (with its boardwalk) in the summer in the 60's. I think that whole area is all gentrified now and super-expensive. At least developers can't touch the waterfront there due to the public beach, right?? I hope.

 

Samll world EastVillage, my uncle lived right off of Queen about 15 houses from that boardwalk during the 70s and 80s before before he moved up to a place on Danforth. The neighborhoods are still there but who know for how long!

that's funny. My aunt was on Kenilworth near the corner of Norway, if you know where that is. Later (in the early 70's) she moved way up to the more suburban area of North York on Sheppard Ave. I can't even imagine how expensive those homes are now (easily in the several hundred thousand range, I would think, in both of those neighborhoods), but they were very modest. I remember once in the 5th grade I was staying there and started walking around by myself and got lost and I think I ended up on Danforth (maybe it was Dundas. I can't remember where everything is) or some major street further north. Not being accustomed to a big city, my aunt was worried when I was gone so long and pissed when I finally found my way back. I'm sure she thought I had been abducted, despite Toronto's reputation for being super-safe (especially so back in those days). My chances of being a victim of a crime were probably greater in Painesville! (probably still are-lol)

 

A handful blocks away on Wineva. You were probably on Danforth, it's just a few major streets up from Queen. Wow, that really is something! I agree about the modest housing. Queen St. East and the Beaches neighborhoods are amazing, so full of life even back in ye ancient late 20th century. I'm sure they still are. I hope they don't build condos there.

that's funny. My aunt was on Kenilworth near the corner of Norway, if you know where that is. Later (in the early 70's) she moved way up to the more suburban area of North York on Sheppard Ave. I can't even imagine how expensive those homes are now (easily in the several hundred thousand range, I would think, in both of those neighborhoods), but they were very modest.

 

That seemed kind of low, so I checked https://www.realtor.ca/ and sure enough, a single-level ranch house with two or three bedrooms near Sheppard in North York starts at about $600,000 but most are $1 million and up. If you want something under $400,000 in that area, you'd better look in a high-rise and there's lots of high-rises to consider. Where the Yonge and Sheppard subways intersect, there are now multiple buildings in excess of 50 stories.

 

Price-wise it's just as expensive in the Norway-Kenilworth area. The cheapest single-family home in that area is a one-bedroom house listing for $649,000. Most of the homes with two or more bedrooms lists for $900,000 and up. Anything along a major street like Queen or Kingston is a mid-rise to high-rise building.

 

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

^those prices are crazy, as bad as New York (although I keep reminding myself they're in Canadian $$, but still staggering). I can never figure out how to get a screen shot of street view, but here's the link to what was my aunt's house, in the middle, with the tree on the property (She's probably rolling over in her grave knowing what it's worth now. I believe she bought it in the early 1940's). Like I said, very modest! After all these years I would think whoever owns this place would have at least fixed those two little steps up to the porch, but I remember the interior staircase slanting). I forgot how much of the housing in Toronto has been influenced by British styles; although the Beaches area does have much larger and stately homes the closer you get to Queen St. toward the water--

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/234+Kenilworth+Ave,+Toronto,+ON+M4L+3S6,+Canada/@43.6741799,-79.3039269,3a,75y,253.89h,91.75t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sLvXuUtCo_9pT2Yr-THbeAg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DLvXuUtCo_9pT2Yr-THbeAg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D241.58133%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m2!3m1!1s0x89d4cc08f65c17c3:0xb277e08361b6eb61

Good grief.  That's a $75,000 duplex in Cincinnati -- $140,000 if each unit has been gutted and rebuilt. 

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