First expansion since the development opened a decade ago...

 

Legacy Village plans expansion, with Hyatt Place hotel, 355-space parking garage

By Michelle Jarboe McFee, The Plain Dealer

on February 27, 2015 at 4:15 PM, updated February 28, 2015 at 8:08 AM

 

LYNDHURST, Ohio -- This East Side suburb is set to gain its first hotel, as part of a $33 million proposed expansion of the Legacy Village shopping center.

 

First Interstate Properties, Ltd., hopes to build a 135-room Hyatt Place and a garage on the north side of Legacy Village. The buildings would replace a parking lot and would link to walkways opening onto the lifestyle center's main street.

 

Discussed in concept for years, the hotel project comes amid a flurry of new investment and repositioning at marquee East Side retail centers. But the Legacy Village update, unlike proposals brewing in Beachwood, Orange and Woodmere, doesn't involve more stores. Plans show a six-story hotel and a five-level, 355-space garage on a 2-acre site, east of Dick's Sporting Goods and Arhaus Furniture.

 

MORE:

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2015/02/legacy_village_plans_expansion.html#incart_river

It's about time. I guess they finally realized that they couldn't sit by as other shopping destinations along the I-271 corridor were making themselves more attractive. Still need a little more, I think.

How about an extension of GCRTA's Green Line? ;)

In all the time I worked over there, I always thought that area could use a hotel. I always figured if one came it would be attached to Beachwood Place, and was surprised when their expansion didnt include one. The mall and really the whole area is a huge regional draw for out of town shoppers. Not just all the international visitors from the Clinic, but theres a ton of people who make day trips up here from PA, southern Ohio, Buffalo... Im sure the hotel there will do good business with them, as well as the business travelers the article talks about.

 

Now about getting the rapid extended up there so I dont have to drive from downtown anymore...

Extending the Green Line there seems like a no brainer, but isn't there some problem with the park blocking it?

I worked on the development & construction of Legacy Village.  The hotel in question was always part of the plan.  When we built the development back in '03/'04, the utilties (gas, water, sewer) were stubbed up in the NE corner off the Richmond entrance.  Back then, the plan was for the hotel to start in a year or so.

^ The original plan was to build the hotel and parking garage adjacent to the remaining estate buildings. The carriage house and quarters were going to be restored and used as part of the hotel. The garage was going to be underground. That was scrapped when the economy crashed. A couple years ago, they looked at putting a boutique hotel on that property. This proposal is much different than any of the hotels they've looked at building in the past.

^ The original plan was to build the hotel and parking garage adjacent to the remaining estate buildings. The carriage house and quarters were going to be restored and used as part of the hotel. The garage was going to be underground. That was scrapped when the economy crashed. A couple years ago, they looked at putting a boutique hotel on that property. This proposal is much different than any of the hotels they've looked at building in the past.

 

I always thought that that part of the property was going to be residential?

How about an extension of GCRTA's Green Line? ;)

 

Sorry for the double-post, but are there any drawings of what this might look like? If not, could someone do a mock-up of the route such an extension might take? Thanks!

^ The original plan was to build the hotel and parking garage adjacent to the remaining estate buildings. The carriage house and quarters were going to be restored and used as part of the hotel. The garage was going to be underground. That was scrapped when the economy crashed. A couple years ago, they looked at putting a boutique hotel on that property. This proposal is much different than any of the hotels they've looked at building in the past.

 

I always thought that that part of the property was going to be residential?

 

Residential is not allowed as part of the re-zoning referendum that created Legacy Village. The entire development is zoned office and commercial while historically it was single family residential. There's a small sliver of land adjacent to LV that was developed into housing at about the same time LV was built but First Interstate did not develop that.

How about an extension of GCRTA's Green Line? ;)

 

Sorry for the double-post, but are there any drawings of what this might look like? If not, could someone do a mock-up of the route such an extension might take? Thanks!

 

Provided some information based on past discussions from the Cleveland Transit Ideas thread here, which is the best place to discuss this idea further:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2768.msg746604.html#msg746604

 

....Which was based on these three possible route options:

Residential is not allowed as part of the re-zoning referendum that created Legacy Village. The entire development is zoned office and commercial while historically it was single family residential. There's a small sliver of land adjacent to LV that was developed into housing at about the same time LV was built but First Interstate did not develop that.

 

Good information. For some reason I always thought that residential was part of some "phase 2" that never happened because of the economic downturn. Maybe it's the office space I was thinking of that never happened.

How about an extension of GCRTA's Green Line? ;)

 

Sorry for the double-post, but are there any drawings of what this might look like? If not, could someone do a mock-up of the route such an extension might take? Thanks!

 

Provided some information based on past discussions from the Cleveland Transit Ideas thread here, which is the best place to discuss this idea further:

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2768.msg746604.html#msg746604

 

....Which was based on these three possible route options:

 

Wouldn't that necessitate plowing through the park Beachwood so kindly put in the right of way?

Extending the Green Line there seems like a no brainer, but isn't there some problem with the park blocking it?

 

Wasn't that sort of on purpose?  I'm not seeing either the management of either mall or the city being very enthusiastic about this idea.

I think that, if the rail system is to be extended, there are a nearly infinite number of places it should be extended to before Legacy Village.

I think that, if the rail system is to be extended, there are a nearly infinite number of places it should be extended to before Legacy Village.

 

You mean like Beachwood Place? :wink:

Wouldn't that necessitate plowing through the park Beachwood so kindly put in the right of way?

 

No. Note the eastbound track would be built next to (or in) the eastbound lanes of Shaker Boulevard, and the westbound track next to (or in) the westbound lane of Shaker Boulevard.

Extending the Green Line there seems like a no brainer, but isn't there some problem with the park blocking it?

 

Wasn't that sort of on purpose?  I'm not seeing either the management of either mall or the city being very enthusiastic about this idea.

 

Probably.  I don't agree with segregation though.

Extending the Green Line there seems like a no brainer, but isn't there some problem with the park blocking it?

 

Wasn't that sort of on purpose?  I'm not seeing either the management of either mall or the city being very enthusiastic about this idea.

 

Probably.  I don't agree with segregation though.

 

Since Beachwood itself is 14% black and 7% of Asian ancestry, and other nearby suburbs are even more integrated, I suppose you mean economic segregation.  Or cultural.

I mean all of it.  Those numbers change dramatically just a few blocks to the west in some areas.  That park is no different than Beavercreek requiring air conditioning at bus stops.  RTA is charged with serving the entire county as best it can, which includes maximizing everyone's access to retail and employment centers at the county's edges.

Every thread...

Extending the Green Line there seems like a no brainer, but isn't there some problem with the park blocking it?

 

Wasn't that sort of on purpose?  I'm not seeing either the management of either mall or the city being very enthusiastic about this idea.

 

Yes to the first question. And in regards to the second comment, that ship has already set sail.

Extending the Green Line there seems like a no brainer, but isn't there some problem with the park blocking it?

 

Wasn't that sort of on purpose?  I'm not seeing either the management of either mall or the city being very enthusiastic about this idea.

 

Yes to the first question. And in regards to the second comment, that ship has already set sail.

 

That's kind of what I mean.  Ironically, Krumholtz blocked it when they may have been interested.  Now, they aren't, and to be fair they have their reasons.

 

It's not about race, and quite frankly it's a copout to even imply it.  It's about spending $35 million dollars a mile and then having to fight the property owners to get any kind of decent stop placement.  It's about two entities whose current customers and target clientele (of all races) would oppose it loudly.

 

Economic "segregation" is inevitable, and cultural "segregation" is understandable, and even sometimes a good idea.

First of all, we as human beings often talk ourselves into believing barriers are more impenetrable than they really and without doing any due-dilligence to determine if such concern is even justified.

 

And second of all, this is all conceptualizing about a dream transit project. At this time it nothing to do with Legacy Village. As I've urged before, let's take this to the Cleveland Transit Ideas thread.....

 

http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,2768.msg746604.html#msg746604

Lyndhurst Council approves tax break for city's first hotel at Legacy Village

By Sara Dorn, Northeast Ohio Media Group

on March 24, 2015 at 10:50 AM, updated March 24, 2015 at 10:58 AM

 

LYNDHURST, Ohio -- Lyndhurst City Council unanimously approved a tax break for a new hotel at Legacy Village Monday, which is expected to generate $12-15 million for the developer.

 

Council publicly discussed the deal only in a brief hearing before Monday's meeting. The only resident to speak asked city officials to explain the legislation before the vote, and council's bond counsel gave a short description.

 

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http://www.cleveland.com/lyndhurst-south-euclid/index.ssf/2015/03/lyndhurst_city_council_approve_3.html

Not sure if this goes under this topic, but here's some news from Legacy Village:

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2017/11/arhaus_is_expanding_at_legacy.html

Great news for Legacy, I was waiting for this to be officially announced. Surprising its going to take 15 months to build it out though. I hope the smoothie shop sticks around in there somewhere.

Couple shots of the Arhaus construction site. Its my first time seeing it under construction, so I can't really say if it's moving quickly or not. The Chipotle that use to be in the site is down by Starbucks, and Tropical Smoothie Cafe is just completely gone.

 

 

They have been doing demo of old spaces and then foundation work (Old Apple, Smoothie, Chipotle, former Ecco, etc.. everything other than Bar Louie and Brio) for about 2 months. Steel started going up in last week or so... finally taking shape.

 

Note: original leasing agent for Pinecrest, who helped sign all the major tenants,  moved to Steiner (Easton developer) last Fall and appears to have stayed local. Pinecrest lost momentum after she left - losing some to Van Aken, for sure. Steiner leases for Legacy Village - and it wouldn't surprise me if some original Pinecrest targets ended up at Legacy...