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10 hours ago, GCrites80s said:

Hmm, Ohio has so few areas with houses more than 1/2 mile apart that you have to wonder if any area bigger than that in a park didn't have houses torn down. Like Slate Run Metro Park. No way was there only that one house for 1,700 acres in northern Pickaway County in the '70s when it opened up. Or how people thought what is now Chestnut Ridge Metro Park near Lancaster was super creepy until it became a Metro Park in the 2000s even though it was just one guy that died and had his house torn down. We thought the whole thing was super old, like 1840s old and haunted until they put up an interpretive sign showing a picture of the house in the 1980s. The house was clearly built after 1930 and probably had an automatic garage door opener by the looks of it! Or when I'm near Rickenbacker and I remember all the 1960s ranches and split levels that got torn down next to it on Pontius and Hayes Roads in the '90s with nothing to replace them for "crash zones".


From what I've read, the government torched a lot of the houses after they used eminent domain and kicked folks out of Boston Township. Some of the footage I saw from the '70s showed the head of a Homeowner's Association going on a rant so at least some area couldn't have been sparsely populated. A lot of toxic chemicals were being dumped nearby and they ended up spending $50M on removing soil. 

 

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Quite frankly, this spot was horrific, in a way. Carcinogenic waste like arsenic, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs), and more were added to this site between 1948 and 1980. This salvage yard was acquired by the National Park Service in 1985, and by that time the ground on which it sat was badly contaminated.

Some sources point out that this spot is the most costly Superfund cleanup site in the nation. Some $50 million later, around 50,600 cubic yards of contaminated soil had to be removed. Believe it or not, the amount of debris that had to be removed was only about half that number.

As signs were placed warning locals of the danger at the Krejci Dump, rumors began to pop up. Though the local landscape had been taken for the creation of Cuyahoga Valley National Park, some insisted that the government had forced locals out to cover up this massive chemical spill. That same chemical spill was said to cause mutations in the local population as well as the monstrous growth of the alleged Peninsula Python.

https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/ohio/cleveland/krejci-dump-helltown-cle/

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  • Sorry @E Rocc! That's ruin the serenity of that place!    And I expect DustinFox to enter the thread very soon to tell us this is why no one is moving to the National Park anymore... 

  • A little off the beaten path but people familiar with CVNP will know where this was taken.   My daughter in the black, her cousin in orange, and I didn't notice her hand until after I took the picture

  • Conservancy for Cuyahoga Valley National Park won a brownfield remediation grant from the state earlier this week to fun the removal of soil from the old Brandywine golf course due to mercury contamin

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Cuyahoga Valley National Park wraps up Krejci Dump clean-up, restoration
 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2021/03/cuyahoga-valley-national-park-wraps-up-krejci-dump-clean-up-restoration.html

 

“BOSTON HEIGHTS, Ohio – The National Park Service announced Tuesday it has completed the cleanup, restoration and revegetation of a former toxic waste dump in Cuyahoga Valley National Park.

“The Krejci Dump on West Hines Hill Road was a municipal and industrial dump and salvage yard. The park service bought the site in 1985 and soon found contamination across 47 acres that posed a threat to human health and the environment.
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“The park service has issued a certificate of completion to Ford stating that all requirements and performance standards for cleaning up and restoring the site have been achieved. The former dump is now open to park visitors for the first time since it was closed to the public in 1986.”
 

Additional interesting info and several pictures in the article. 
 

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When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

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Cuyahoga Valley National Park Struggles With The Effects Of Climate Change

 

https://www.ideastream.org/news/cuyahoga-valley-national-park-struggles-with-the-effects-of-climate-change

 

Troubling news, but will be interesting to keep an eye on how things change in the park. Won't mind if they make my kayak trips a little longer. 

 

I know it's not part of the national park, but has anyone heard any update on the Gorge Dam removal project? 

I'd heard it'll happen in 2023, they have to remove sediment first, I think

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Interesting read...I've always felt like Peninsula, OH should / could be a tourist draw being on the border / entrance to a National Park...like a Red Lodge, MT or Estes Park, CO...dare I say Gatlinburg, TN. 

 

A blessing or a curse? National park’s presence key to Peninsula’s identity, but also fuels challenges

Updated: Dec. 04, 2021, 10:26 a.m. | Published: Dec. 04, 2021, 9:12 a.m.

 

By Robert Higgs, cleveland.com

 

PENINSULA, Ohio – This tiny village of fewer than 600 people is facing an existential crisis, at the heart of which is the very asset that makes it a unique Northeast Ohio destination – the Cuyahoga Valley National Park.

 

Among the nation’s most popular national parks and widely considered a gem of the region, Cuyahoga Valley will soon expand its footprint, thanks to the recent sale of a 207-acre golf course in the village. Park officials say the property is an important part of the park’s long-term plan for improved public access and habitat restoration.

 

Peninsula bills itself as the “Gateway to the Cuyahoga Valley National Park.” Portions of the 33,000-acre park cover more than half the village, and thousands of people visit the town each year as a result of that proximity.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2021/12/a-blessing-or-a-curse-national-parks-presence-key-to-peninsula-s-identity-but-also-fuels-challenges.html

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Cuyahoga River Bank Stabilization:

High Priority Areas along the Towpath Trail and Scenic Railroad

 

"The project involves the assessment and initial design of priority bank stabilization activities along the Cuyahoga River. Bank stabilization activities are being assessed at eight separate locations within Summit and Cuyahoga Counties in the Cuyahoga Valley National Park (CVNP). The eight locations were identified by the National Park Service based on existing bank erosion and the proximity to the Ohio & Erie Canal Towpath Trail and the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad."

 

"The  Park is seeking input on the project from the public, agency personnel, and stakeholders which will be evaluated during the detailed design process. "

 

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/302e0fe1981b4fe1b115e98f6e5c3b3e?s=01

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On 2/14/2020 at 11:58 AM, audidave said:

^My understanding is that it was to insure that there was plenty of water going through the summer and droughts.  The canal is also getting water from various sources and tributaries.  There are overflows out of the canal to the river when those points fill with too much water.   I imagine it was engineers that decided ‘we always need x amount of water so lets go ahead and divert x amount of water’

 

Has anyone seen the canal since they took out the dam?   I'd say that if they were concerned about "stagnant water" they miscalculated badly.  It goes from dry in spots, to very low levels even after a rain in others.

48 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

Has anyone seen the canal since they took out the dam?   I'd say that if they were concerned about "stagnant water" they miscalculated badly.  It goes from dry in spots, to very low levels even after a rain in others.

We're talking about the Brecksville dam here, right? I think he was talking about the purpose of the original dam, not objectives after removing. 

 

From what I remember, they weren't so much concerned with feeding the canal as they were with clearing the channel of Cuyahoga to bring down water temperatures, increase oxygenation, and allow fish to freely travel.

 

However, there is a plan to put on place a pump where the old canal feed was to pump some water from the river into the canal. I don't know what's taken them so long or of that plan has since been scrapped.  

1 hour ago, Luke_S said:

We're talking about the Brecksville dam here, right? I think he was talking about the purpose of the original dam, not objectives after removing. 

 

From what I remember, they weren't so much concerned with feeding the canal as they were with clearing the channel of Cuyahoga to bring down water temperatures, increase oxygenation, and allow fish to freely travel.

 

However, there is a plan to put on place a pump where the old canal feed was to pump some water from the river into the canal. I don't know what's taken them so long or of that plan has since been scrapped.  

 

Yes, at Station Street.

 

I would hope they plan to do that, they invested a lot in those trails and right now it's a potential mosquito paradise.

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7 minutes ago, E Rocc said:

 

Yes, at Station Street.

 

I would hope they plan to do that, they invested a lot in those trails and right now it's a potential mosquito paradise.

I remember they dredged a short section from the river to the mud-dam on the east side of the canal shortly before removing the dam in the river. Would be a weird thing to spend money on if they weren't certain they were going to put the pump in.

 

So here's hoping because you make a good point. Not that the section of the canal north of here flowed all that well before hand...

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Yes, installing a new pump is part of the plan:


https://www.cleveland.com/rock-the-lake/2019/05/brecksville-dam-on-the-cuyahoga-river-slated-for-removal.html

 

“The removal, in the works since 2003, is estimated to cost about $1.5 million, including the cost of a new canal pump station to feed the Ohio and Erie Canal, a National Historic Site and the cost of preparatory studies and engineering work. The city of Akron’s sewer overflow program is contributing $900,000, and the United States EPA is paying $750,000 for the project.”

 

(I don’t know the latest status on this project)

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

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A little off the beaten path but people familiar with CVNP will know where this was taken.   My daughter in the black, her cousin in orange, and I didn't notice her hand until after I took the picture.

 

 

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This is pretty big for the Village of Peninsula. Having water and sewer could lead to a little development boom in the village since they now have to have water delivered by truck from Akron. I'm glad that they are taking a closer look at their zoning laws to keep the character of the village intact if the development does in fact come. 

 

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Peninsula and Cuyahoga Valley National Park settle their differences after decades of tension

 

Summit County officials arranged for a $1 million grant from the Ohio Public Works Commission to repair the road. And they kept going, using funds from the American Rescue Plan Act for a long-needed wastewater plant.

 

“They helped us out in the opening of Akron-Peninsula Road which, you know, we are thankful, so very thankful,” Mayor Schneider said. “And then, on our behalf, there's like $7.5 million set aside to help the village of Peninsula for water and sewer.”

 

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Peninsula officials want to avoid the growth of dollar stores and drive-throughs in its quaint downtown. They have recently developed a design overlay and are tightening the zoning regulations to withstand any harm to its historic character.

 

https://www.ideastream.org/news/peninsula-and-cuyahoga-valley-national-park-settle-their-differences-after-decades-of-tension

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Conservancy for Cuyahoga Valley National Park won a brownfield remediation grant from the state earlier this week to fun the removal of soil from the old Brandywine golf course due to mercury contamination. 

 

Preliminary plans are to turn the former golf course into camp ground! This would be great for the park which currently doesn't have any camping sites in the park. Tent camping was available in the field behind the Stanford house but I believe that was ended due to lack of appropriate amenities. Despite having two reservations that connect to the national park - Brecksville and Garfield - Cleveland Metroparks only offers limited, backwoods camp sites in the Brecksville reservation. 

 

There are very few places to camp in the area and this would be well positioned near Peninsula, providing traffic to businesses there, and around the middle of the park. Connections to the towpath on the other side of the river would have to be created for thru hikers or bikers though. 

 

ideastream: Unlikely Northeast Ohio site gets state grant for hazardous waste cleanup.

On 6/24/2022 at 7:06 AM, Luke_S said:

Conservancy for Cuyahoga Valley National Park won a brownfield remediation grant from the state earlier this week to fun the removal of soil from the old Brandywine golf course due to mercury contamination. 

 

Preliminary plans are to turn the former golf course into camp ground! This would be great for the park which currently doesn't have any camping sites in the park. Tent camping was available in the field behind the Stanford house but I believe that was ended due to lack of appropriate amenities. Despite having two reservations that connect to the national park - Brecksville and Garfield - Cleveland Metroparks only offers limited, backwoods camp sites in the Brecksville reservation. 

 

There are very few places to camp in the area and this would be well positioned near Peninsula, providing traffic to businesses there, and around the middle of the park. Connections to the towpath on the other side of the river would have to be created for thru hikers or bikers though. 

 

ideastream: Unlikely Northeast Ohio site gets state grant for hazardous waste cleanup.

Both CVNP and the Towpath need more campgrounds.  For scouts, youth groups, and other outdoor "adventures."

3 minutes ago, Foraker said:

Both CVNP and the Towpath need more campgrounds.  For scouts, youth groups, and other outdoor "adventures."

 

Just an FYI, the boy scouts have camp Manatoc and Butler and girl scouts have camp Ledgewood north of the Virginia Kendall area of the park. 

 

But broadly agree, park infrastructure could be vastly improved. 

30 minutes ago, Luke_S said:

 

Just an FYI, the boy scouts have camp Manatoc and Butler and girl scouts have camp Ledgewood north of the Virginia Kendall area of the park.

 

What route would you take to get a group of young, easily-distracted boys to and from Camp Manatoc/Butler?  It's on the other side of the river and requires riding along Akron-Peninsula and a short section of Rt 303, at best (or a longer ride on Rt 303).  I've done it and had multiple "heart attacks" at boys and drivers not paying enough attention. 

 

Plus staying at the Camp limits you to out-and-back trips and getting back to camp well before sunset, which really limits how far you can go.  That's why I think we need more group camping sites along the Towpath.  Not for day trips along the same portion of the path (again and again), but for the overnighters. 

 

I'd like to see the Towpath become Ohio's (improved) version of the Great Allegheny Passage.  We're not there yet.

https://gaptrail.org/

 

 

47 minutes ago, Foraker said:

 

What route would you take to get a group of young, easily-distracted boys to and from Camp Manatoc/Butler?  It's on the other side of the river and requires riding along Akron-Peninsula and a short section of Rt 303, at best (or a longer ride on Rt 303).  I've done it and had multiple "heart attacks" at boys and drivers not paying enough attention. 

 

Plus staying at the Camp limits you to out-and-back trips and getting back to camp well before sunset, which really limits how far you can go.  That's why I think we need more group camping sites along the Towpath.  Not for day trips along the same portion of the path (again and again), but for the overnighters. 

 

I'd like to see the Towpath become Ohio's (improved) version of the Great Allegheny Passage.  We're not there yet.

https://gaptrail.org/

 

 

 

My mistake, you're more familiar than I am with those campsites. And I misunderstood your point, I think we agree.

 

Even Brandywine Golf Course would only be marginally closer than the boy scout camps and have the same barriers you mentioned without creating a direct link to the towpath. 

 

I'd love more campsites throughout the park. I don't know why the metroparks don't step in in the meantime and create car camping sites in the Brecksville or Bedford Reservations -- could be a revenue source for them. Though that would only serve the north of the park. 

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On 6/25/2022 at 1:47 PM, Luke_S said:

 

My mistake, you're more familiar than I am with those campsites. And I misunderstood your point, I think we agree.

 

Even Brandywine Golf Course would only be marginally closer than the boy scout camps and have the same barriers you mentioned without creating a direct link to the towpath. 

 

I'd love more campsites throughout the park. I don't know why the metroparks don't step in in the meantime and create car camping sites in the Brecksville or Bedford Reservations -- could be a revenue source for them. Though that would only serve the north of the park. 

 

I was curious about the same, and followed up with a friend of mine at the Metroparks. 

 

They explored the idea right at the outset of the pandemic, as a "close-to-home escape" for families in quarantine. 

 

The respective city councils all wouldn't even have the discussion - all thought campsites would inevitably bring vagrants, drug users, etc. etc. 

 

It's a shame

1 minute ago, YABO713 said:

 

I was curious about the same, and followed up with a friend of mine at the Metroparks. 

 

They explored the idea right at the outset of the pandemic, as a "close-to-home escape" for families in quarantine. 

 

The respective city councils all wouldn't even have the discussion - all thought campsites would inevitably bring vagrants, drug users, etc. etc. 

 

It's a shame

 

Thanks for the follow up and passing along. Absolutely hate the reasoning, though it's not surprising really at all. 

5 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

 

I was curious about the same, and followed up with a friend of mine at the Metroparks. 

 

They explored the idea right at the outset of the pandemic, as a "close-to-home escape" for families in quarantine. 

 

The respective city councils all wouldn't even have the discussion - all thought campsites would inevitably bring vagrants, drug users, etc. etc. 

 

It's a shame

 

In other urban-adjacent state and national parks with campgrounds in other states (e.g., maybe this Great Allegheny Passage @Foraker mentioned), are they really ever magnets for vagrants and drug users?  Like, what drug dealer is going to make his customers hike five miles to find him, or what user is going to buy in a back alley and then hike five miles into the park before shooting up?

 

As for vagrants out on the trails, the best man at my wedding looks like a vagrant when he's been out hiking in the Pacific Northwest wilderness for more than a couple of days.  He's an engineer at Boeing and owns his own home on Whidbey Island.

7 minutes ago, Gramarye said:

 

In other urban-adjacent state and national parks with campgrounds in other states (e.g., maybe this Great Allegheny Passage @Foraker mentioned), are they really ever magnets for vagrants and drug users?  Like, what drug dealer is going to make his customers hike five miles to find him, or what user is going to buy in a back alley and then hike five miles into the park before shooting up?

 

As for vagrants out on the trails, the best man at my wedding looks like a vagrant when he's been out hiking in the Pacific Northwest wilderness for more than a couple of days.  He's an engineer at Boeing and owns his own home on Whidbey Island.

The closest thing I can think of is Nelson Ledges Quarry Park. It is well known for a party atmosphere and drug activity. Although, this a private campground adjacent to a state park. I also wouldn't consider it to be "vagrants" but more of young adults and adolescents partying for a weekend.

9 minutes ago, Gramarye said:

 

In other urban-adjacent state and national parks with campgrounds in other states (e.g., maybe this Great Allegheny Passage @Foraker mentioned), are they really ever magnets for vagrants and drug users?  Like, what drug dealer is going to make his customers hike five miles to find him, or what user is going to buy in a back alley and then hike five miles into the park before shooting up?

 

As for vagrants out on the trails, the best man at my wedding looks like a vagrant when he's been out hiking in the Pacific Northwest wilderness for more than a couple of days.  He's an engineer at Boeing and owns his own home on Whidbey Island.

 

I had car camping in mind, FWIW, but I don't think it really makes much of a difference to your considerations. 

 

Car campgrounds are frequently patrolled and I'm sure the Brecksville and Bedford police have the capacity to make a lap to supplement any monitoring that would be done by Metroparks rangers. 

 

Just absurd. 

If looking for car camping, there are a few sites at Heritage Farms, which is adjacent to CVNP.  They are walk in sites and the sites are relatively far apart, which is nice.  

58 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

The respective city councils all wouldn't even have the discussion - all thought campsites would inevitably bring vagrants, drug users, etc. etc. 

What is it about NIMBY suburbs that always expects the WORST in people?   Sheesh

1 hour ago, Luke_S said:

 

I had car camping in mind, FWIW, but I don't think it really makes much of a difference to your considerations. 

 

Car campgrounds are frequently patrolled and I'm sure the Brecksville and Bedford police have the capacity to make a lap to supplement any monitoring that would be done by Metroparks rangers. 

 

Just absurd. 

 

FWIW, Bedford Reservation is mostly in Walton Hills.  WHPD and Bedford are both highly professional departments.   

 

I can't speak to Brecksville directly.  I spent a lot of time in Bedford Reservation from the early 80s until the hangout scene there died down there around 2002 or so.   At that point I started working in one of the main Bedford younger people hangout bars and did so until 2019.

 

Bedford Reservation has always had a strict 11pm closing time, as long as I can remember.   It's something the rangers roll through to enforce.  I am sure Walton Hills approves of this whole heartedly, but I doubt it comes solely from them.

 

It's not likely that a section of Bedford Reservation that was open all night for camping would become a party scene, dominated by younger rowdier people who families would not be comfortable around and increasingly problematic.   It is an absolute certainty.  

1 hour ago, Cleburger said:

What is it about NIMBY suburbs that always expects the WORST in people?   Sheesh

 

Knowing that the worst people are always going to push and try to take advantage, perhaps?

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Kayaked from Station Bridge to Rockside this morning, first picture is the feeder pump. Tough spot to grab a picture with the swift water here but I did my best. 

 

Second picture is just south of Rockside Rd, anyone know what these posts are from/were? 

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Cuyahoga Valley National Park to receive $14M to stabilize sites along Cuyahoga River

Published: Sep. 27, 2022, 1:28 p.m.

By Megan Becka, special to cleveland.com

 

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BRECKSVILLE, Ohio – Cuyahoga Valley National Park this week announced it has received approximately $14 million in Great American Outdoors Act funding to support access to recreational experiences in the park.

 

CVNP will use the funds to stabilize the riverbank at eight sites along the Cuyahoga River where erosion has impacted the Ohio & Erie Canal Towpath Trail and the tracks of the Cuyahoga Valley Scenic Railroad.

 

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Work is scheduled to start in October and continue through early 2025, the park said in a news release. Work updates and corresponding short-term closures will be shared on the park website.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/akron/2022/09/cuyahoga-valley-national-park-to-receive-14m-to-stabilize-sites-along-cuyahoga-river.html

On 9/23/2022 at 4:32 PM, Luke_S said:

Kayaked from Station Bridge to Rockside this morning, first picture is the feeder pump. Tough spot to grab a picture with the swift water here but I did my best. 

 

Second picture is just south of Rockside Rd, anyone know what these posts are from/were? 

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Most of the canal is still effectively dry.

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Heard some rumblings about an expansion of the central business district in Downtown Peninsula - nothing major, looking to add a denser on-street presence with 2-3 more buildings and 8-10 shops/restaurants. 

 

I hope it happens, within the bounds of historical reverence for the area, but that would be terrific for CVNP. 

12 minutes ago, YABO713 said:

Heard some rumblings about an expansion of the central business district in Downtown Peninsula - nothing major, looking to add a denser on-street presence with 2-3 more buildings and 8-10 shops/restaurants. 

 

I hope it happens, within the bounds of historical reverence for the area, but that would be terrific for CVNP. 

 

That is great news, and what I was hoping would be the outcome of the agreement Peninsula came to with the park to add sewer and waterlines. At the time when Ideastream reported on this back in the spring they included mention that the Village was revisiting their zoning in anticipation of new construction and hopefully those revisions were to maintain the downtown's character. 

 

On 5/3/2022 at 7:56 PM, Luke_S said:

This is pretty big for the Village of Peninsula. Having water and sewer could lead to a little development boom in the village since they now have to have water delivered by truck from Akron. I'm glad that they are taking a closer look at their zoning laws to keep the character of the village intact if the development does in fact come. 

 

 

https://www.ideastream.org/news/peninsula-and-cuyahoga-valley-national-park-settle-their-differences-after-decades-of-tension

 

Akron, Peninsula, Cuyahoga Falls to become 'gateway communities' to Cuyahoga Valley National Park

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Some of the communities surrounding the Cuyahoga Valley National Park, which spans more than 32,500 acres between Akron and Cleveland, have recently began the process of designating themselves as gateway communities, hoping to enhance the relationship with the park and increase the economic benefit of being nearby a tourist destination. 

 

Gateway communities already exist across the country, and see huge economic impacts because of their proximity to national parks and other federal lands. One can think of Gatlinburg Tennessee as the entrance to Great Smokey Mountains National Park, or Jackson Wyoming and it's relation to both Grand Tetons and Yellowstone. 

 

But those gateway communities also have to deal with increased traffic, which doesn't sit well with every resident. 

 

Today, we're going to start the "Sound of Ideas," by discussing what this designation will mean for the residents and businesses surrounding the park with local leaders. We'll also talk a little bit about the park's almost 50 year history in the region, and how that has contributed to some residents rocky relationship with the park.

 

Guests: 

-Lisa Petit, Superintendent, Cuyahoga Valley National Park

-Nancy Holland, Ward 1 Councilwoman, Akron City Council 

-John Krusinski, Councilmember, Village of Peninsula

-Cindy Billings, Mayor, Village of Hartville

-Andrew Meyer, Deputy Editor of News, Ideastream Public Media 

-Christine Fowler Mack, Superintendent, Akron Public Schools

2 hours ago, YABO713 said:

Heard some rumblings about an expansion of the central business district in Downtown Peninsula - nothing major, looking to add a denser on-street presence with 2-3 more buildings and 8-10 shops/restaurants. 

Great news.  I like downtown Peninsula, but I had always hoped they could add a few more shops for coffee, ice cream, etc. and give it a bit of a Chagrin Falls vibe.

22 hours ago, Luke_S said:

Akron, Peninsula, Cuyahoga Falls to become 'gateway communities' to Cuyahoga Valley National Park

Listen here

 

 

Guests: 

-Lisa Petit, Superintendent, Cuyahoga Valley National Park

-Nancy Holland, Ward 1 Councilwoman, Akron City Council 

-John Krusinski, Councilmember, Village of Peninsula

-Cindy Billings, Mayor, Village of Hartville

-Andrew Meyer, Deputy Editor of News, Ideastream Public Media 

-Christine Fowler Mack, Superintendent, Akron Public Schools

 

Gatlinburg was a tourist trap even 40 years ago.

23 hours ago, YABO713 said:

Heard some rumblings about an expansion of the central business district in Downtown Peninsula - nothing major, looking to add a denser on-street presence with 2-3 more buildings and 8-10 shops/restaurants. 

 

I hope it happens, within the bounds of historical reverence for the area, but that would be terrific for CVNP. 

 

As it's Peninsula, in the "borderlands" burbs between Cleveland and Akron that don't particularly identify with either over the other, I'd expect spread down 303 or maybe Locust (?), not densify.   Politicians down there pronounce the word "density" like some here would say "sprawl", and while they mostly mean residential the principle carries over.   

im not so sure. their officials were talking last year that the town needs to develop more commercial tax revenue to maintain its city services and we're complaining that the park was eating into developable land.

Last I heard Peninsula was having some kind of major issue with their water supply. So bad that Winking Lizard was having to bring in their own water. 

10 minutes ago, surfohio said:

Last I heard Peninsula was having some kind of major issue with their water supply. So bad that Winking Lizard was having to bring in their own water. 

 

They don't have water or sewer lines and they can't access ground water. 

 

The village and the national park came to an agreement in the spring to run sewer and water lines into the village, likely causing the interest in new development. 

On 11/5/2022 at 6:54 AM, E Rocc said:

 

As it's Peninsula, in the "borderlands" burbs between Cleveland and Akron that don't particularly identify with either over the other, I'd expect spread down 303 or maybe Locust (?), not densify.   Politicians down there pronounce the word "density" like some here would say "sprawl", and while they mostly mean residential the principle carries over.   

 

I'm not as looped in on this as other topics, but I've heard from a couple people that Peninsula has a vision of becoming a "country house" town for Cleveland, Columbus, and Akron. Meaning, they'd like to have enough shops, restaurants, etc. in town to make it worth staying a few days at a time or, even better, retiring there. 

22 hours ago, surfohio said:

Last I heard Peninsula was having some kind of major issue with their water supply. So bad that Winking Lizard was having to bring in their own water. 

 

Irony as they are literally next to the river.

On 11/6/2022 at 7:22 AM, E Rocc said:

 

Irony as they are literally next to the river.

 

That section of the Cuyahoga always seemed to have a very distinct smell, giving me the clear impression you did not want to be swimming in or drinking that water lol. 

On 11/7/2022 at 12:21 PM, surfohio said:

 

That section of the Cuyahoga always seemed to have a very distinct smell, giving me the clear impression you did not want to be swimming in or drinking that water lol. 

 

Truth, but cleaning it is likely cheaper than shipping it.

  • 1 month later...

The Brandywine Golf Course is officially part of the National Park now. You can find project updates here.

 

Press release below:

 

National Park Service purchases 198 acres in the heart of Cuyahoga Valley National Park (CVNP) from Conservancy

Conservancy for CVNP to begin environmental remediation in early 2023

 

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The National Park Service closed on the purchase of 198 acres of the 213-acre former Brandywine Golf Course property on Dec. 28, 2022, from the Conservancy for Cuyahoga Valley National Park (CVNP). This land purchase in the heart of CVNP is an important part of the park’s long-term plan for improved public access and habitat restoration in the area. The remaining 15 acres of the property is retained by the Conservancy for CVNP.

 

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Remediation work on the property is set to begin early in 2023. The Conservancy for CVNP will oversee the project with HZW Environmental Consultants of Mentor, Ohio, to assist in the execution and management of the remediation work. This phase of the project is funded by an Ohio Brownfield Remediation Program grant award from the Ohio Department of Development. As this important work continues, the property remains closed to the public for safety reasons.

 

...

 

Remediation, in this case, means the removal of contaminated soil. Sampling on the property identified the presence of mercury in the shallow soil of the tee boxes, putting greens and some fairways. The use of fungicides and herbicides containing mercury dates to the 1950s and continued through the 1990s. These products were routinely applied using industry-standard practices.

 

https://www.nps.gov/cuva/learn/news/national-park-service-purchases-198-acres-in-the-heart-of-cuyahoga-valley-national-park-cvnp-from-conservancy.htm

^That is great news.

  • 2 months later...

Anyone know exactly where Cranz Farm is? The article doesn't give a good description other than it is near Hale Farm & Village.

 

They are considering including tent camping though, which is desperately needed in CVNP. 

 

Western Reserve Historical Society Begins Renovations on Cranz Farm Inn and Event Center:

When the Cranz family settled in the Cuyahoga Valley from Germany, they likely never imagined their home would still be standing 156 years later.

 

By Becky Boban

 

"Buried within the foggy Cuyahoga Valley hills, the Edward Cranz Farm has sat unaltered since 1867. Its 10 acres entertain a mid-19th century chicken coop, smokehouse and toolshed. When the farm changed hands for the first time in the 1970s, its new owner built a pole barn. It was the most action the property had seen in more than a century.

 

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In June, the Western Reserve Historical Society received a $250,000 appropriation from the state of Ohio’s capital budget to reincarnate the farm — including the chicken coop, smokehouse and toolshed — into a charming overnight venue. WRHS president and CEO Kelly Falcone-Hall hasn’t nixed tent camping or yurts on the property in the far future, either.

 

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“The biggest challenge architecturally is that it’s a home, and it was a residence for a single family. We’re envisioning carving the interior up so five or six different families could stay there,” Falcone-Hall says, citing private restroom facilities and a kitchen area."

 

https://clevelandmagazine.com/in-the-cle/articles/western-reserve-historical-society-begins-renovations-on-cranz-farm-inn-and-event-center

 

UPDATE:

 

I believe it is this property - https://www.nps.gov/cuva/learn/historyculture/hammond-cranz-farm.htmScreenshot_20230408-093803.thumb.png.e68a592e24ff0e8bf9be7b3f0b390e60.png

Edited by Luke_S

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