January 7Jan 7 20 minutes ago, Ethan said: Do you know if this would this result in any tangible benefits to the trail, such as increased funding? Would management responsibility shift from the Buckeye Trail Association to the NPS? Or would nothing really change and this is just a new title but no real changes. Like getting a promotion to have a fancy new title but not getting a raise. There was an earlier cleveland.com article that said the designation would come with "federal money for educational programs and maintenance". I assume those funds will be directed to the Buckeye Trail Association who would continue the day to day management of the trail, but I can't say I'm familiar with how these National Scenic Trails operate. Rep. Tim Ryan seeks national designation for Buckeye Trail in Ohio
February 17Feb 17 Thank the Lord for Conservancy - hopefully their incredible skills and resourcefulness can help offset this spit in the face of Teddy Roosevelt
February 17Feb 17 This is the kind of $hit that will start to infuriate the public. Park Rangers making $60k/year telling their stories of being fired with no notice will pull on the heart strings of regular Americans.
February 17Feb 17 54 minutes ago, Cleburger said: This is the kind of $hit that will start to infuriate the public. Park Rangers making $60k/year telling their stories of being fired with no notice will pull on the heart strings of regular Americans. ...and then they'll blame the Democrats for whatever reason. It won't work. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 17Feb 17 1 hour ago, DHubb said: WTF can be done about that MOFO Eloon??!? 🤬 Only thing that can be done is everyone starts referring to him in public as President Musk... Trump will get him out of sight in short order
February 17Feb 17 1 hour ago, Cleburger said: This is the kind of $hit that will start to infuriate the public. Park Rangers making $60k/year telling their stories of being fired with no notice will pull on the heart strings of regular Americans. Not just the stories, but the congresspeople will be inundated with calls from people of all political leanings, and ultimately fund the things that need to be done. I think about West Virginia, Wyoming, and Tennessee, both of which have significant portions of their economy rely on national parks tourism and have 6 VERY red senate seats. Those senators and house members will not be able to ignore the pleas of constituents if things are as bad as we expect them to be for those places. Edited February 17Feb 17 by 10albersa
February 17Feb 17 15 minutes ago, 10albersa said: Not just the stories, but the congresspeople will be inundated with calls from people of all political leanings, and ultimately fund the things that need to be done. Congress has already funded the national parks. The Republican in Congress are letting Musk destroy the government so that they can escape blame for canceling popular programs. Republican legislators will continue on their hands while waiting for further instructions from their god; until they fear the Republican base more than that Musk's millions will fund a primary challenger.
February 17Feb 17 9 minutes ago, Foraker said: Congress has already funded the national parks. The Republican in Congress are letting Musk destroy the government so that they can escape blame for canceling popular programs. Republican legislators will continue on their hands while waiting for further instructions from their god; until they fear the Republican base more than that Musk's millions will fund a primary challenger. Fund was the wrong word, but if the national parks devolve into chaos like we're anticipating, they won't be able to ignore the loud rebuke they'll get and go ask King Trump to solve it. And he will, because he loves looking like he solved problems he created. I know there's plenty of reason for pessimism, and our NPS is one of the best things about America, but there's more than one way this plays out. Edited February 17Feb 17 by 10albersa
February 17Feb 17 17 minutes ago, 10albersa said: Fund was the wrong word, but if the national parks devolve into chaos like we're anticipating, they won't be able to ignore the loud rebuke they'll get and go ask King Trump to solve it. And he will, because he loves looking like he solved problems he created. I know there's plenty of reason for pessimism, and our NPS is one of the best things about America, but there's more than one way this plays out. I maintain that they are weighing constituent anger against Trump's threats to primary them using Musk's millions. That "loud rebuke they'll get" from constituents is going to have to be a lot louder than the threat of a well-funded primary opponent. While Trump clearly likes to take credit for anything good that happens, he doesn't like someone telling him that he made a mistake, and Republicans know that. It's going to be a while before anyone has enough of their constituent complaints to actually take action. Meanwhile, Trump/Musk are going to break a lot more of the government.
February 17Feb 17 1 hour ago, YABO713 said: Only thing that can be done is everyone starts referring to him in public as President Musk... Trump will get him out of sight in short order He's clearly playing bad cop (which he relishes as he has no desire to stay in the public sector) and DJT will be the good cop as needed, since he has to approve any concrete actions. He said there would be an audit during the campaign, in principle it is neither surprising nor unwelcome. This is likely why Vivek bailed when things began to get real, he has political ambitions. Keep in mind Elon's the guy that took X's head count from 7,500 to 1,500, then brought it back to almost 3,000 now.
February 21Feb 21 Cuyahoga Valley National Park projects could be affected by layoffs, conservancy says Ideastream Public Media | By Zaria Johnson Published February 21, 2025 The Cuyahoga Valley National Park lost a biologist, maintenance worker, engineer and planner to federally mandated job cuts last week, and park officials remain concerned about the longterm effect the cutbacks will have. The layoffs at CVNP were among about 1,000 cuts to probationary employees at the National Park Service. All four of the potions cut were essential to the CVNP operations, said Deb Yandala, the president and CEO of the Conservancy for Cuyahoga Valley National Park. ... For members of the public concerned about protection of and access to the CVNP and other National Parks, Yandala said the best thing to do is contact congressional officials. https://www.scriptype.com/2024/12/23/cvnp-considering-path-improvement-rail-service-expansion/
February 22Feb 22 9 minutes ago, Whipjacka said: they fired 4 people? Yup, and have not hired needed seasonal workers for the summer rush. Cuyahoga Valley National Park hit with federal cuts by Brittany Moseley February 19, 2025 Deb Yandala, president and CEO of the Conservancy for Cuyahoga Valley National Park, said four full-time positions were terminated. She said the affected workers included an engineer, a biologist, a maintenance worker and someone in the planning department. They were notified Friday, and Tuesday was the last day they received pay. Yandala wasn’t aware of any part-time employees who were also let go. ... As for future layoffs, those are up in the air. Yandala also cited concerns over how the federal hiring freeze will affect seasonal positions at CVNP. The Washington Post reported that the Department of the Interior said it will exempt 5,000 seasonal positions under the hiring freeze. Yandala said there are 40 seasonal positions at CVNP that have yet to be filled. https://signalakron.org/cuyahoga-valley-national-park-hit-with-federal-cuts/
February 27Feb 27 Cuyahoga Valley National Park reinstates seasonal positions By: Maya Morita Posted Feb 26, 2025 The Cuyahoga Valley National Park's seasonal positions have been reinstated after a nearly month-long hiring freeze that began due to the Trump administration's continued efforts to reduce federal jobs. Earlier this month, layoffs began at Cuyahoga Valley National Park, and four employees lost their jobs. The park said Wednesday that they are not aware of any staff being re-hired. https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/cuyahoga-valley-national-park-reinstates-seasonal-positions
March 2Mar 2 Protesters rally at Cuyahoga Valley National Park over mass layoffs of park workers Published: Mar. 01, 2025 By Olivia Mitchell, cleveland.com PENINSULA, Ohio - Protests took place at national parks across the country, including Cuyahoga Valley National Park, to demand the reinstatement of thousands of park workers who protesters say were wrongfully terminated by the Trump administration. Nearly 100 people stood in solidarity at the park’s visitor center park to support the abruptly fired rangers and employees. The National Park Service cut nearly 1,000 jobs on Feb. 14 as part of President Donald Trump and Elon Musk’s plan to reduce the federal workforce. The layoffs targeted “underperforming” probationary workers, according to termination letters from the Office of Personnel Management and Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/03/protestors-rally-at-cuyahoga-valley-national-park-over-mass-layoffs-of-park-workers.html
April 4Apr 4 Cuyahoga Valley National Park closes 3 restrooms until further notice amid federal cuts The Cuyahoga Valley National Park announced Wednesday that three restrooms will be closed until further notice. A notice is posted on the door of each restroom with the address of the nearest open restroom. The closed restrooms and the nearest open ones are: - Boston Store trailhead. Use the Boston Mill Visitor Center restroom one-tenth of a mile away. - Horseshoe Pond trailhead. Use the Oak Hill trailhead restroom 2 miles away. -Pine Lane trailhead. Use the Lock 29 trailhead restroom 1 mile away. https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/news/local/2025/04/03/cuyahoga-valley-national-park-closes-restrooms-summit-county-federal-budget-cuts/82783834007/
April 22Apr 22 UO Fam - I have a major request I would like help with, and I feel like some of you here who are GIS-proficient may be best suited to help me. I set a goal for myself to hike every inch of trail in CVNP by the end of September 2025. While I've already done most of the Towtrail, I am having trouble 1) Tracking the full scope of trails and 2) assigning mileage appropriately (I would like to be able to plan distance accordingly). My initial thought is that this will likely include hundreds of miles in total, and I may be in over my head - nonetheless, I'd really like to do this. If anyone is able to lend a hand at all, it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
April 22Apr 22 This is what you're looking for: https://runsignup.com/Race/OH/Hudson/FullOnCVNP They are in the 5th year of doing this. I did it I think the first year, which was the first winter of COVID. It was an awesome thing to do especially back then when we were still isolating so much. I also recommend it because they specifically look to hike 99% of the trails so they'll use trail connectors to combine trails that you might not otherwise do together. For example, when I did Ledges, I think it was like 7 miles because we started at the Kendall Lake parking lot whereas most people would just park at the Ledges parking and do like 3 miles from there. If you didn't want to sign up for this let me know, I could email you the old route guide that was sent to me, though trails do get slight modifications over time. Sign up for AllTrails if you haven't already. Best way to track.
April 22Apr 22 6 hours ago, smith said: This is what you're looking for: https://runsignup.com/Race/OH/Hudson/FullOnCVNP They are in the 5th year of doing this. I did it I think the first year, which was the first winter of COVID. It was an awesome thing to do especially back then when we were still isolating so much. I also recommend it because they specifically look to hike 99% of the trails so they'll use trail connectors to combine trails that you might not otherwise do together. For example, when I did Ledges, I think it was like 7 miles because we started at the Kendall Lake parking lot whereas most people would just park at the Ledges parking and do like 3 miles from there. If you didn't want to sign up for this let me know, I could email you the old route guide that was sent to me, though trails do get slight modifications over time. Sign up for AllTrails if you haven't already. Best way to track. I have AllTrails - and thank you for this!!
May 15May 15 $16.5 million settlement reached in Cuyahoga Valley National Park paper mill cleanupPublished: May. 14, 2025By Adam Ferrise, cleveland.comCLEVELAND, Ohio — The former owners of a paper mill that’s now located inside the Cuyahoga Valley National Park agreed to pay $16.5 million to settle a dispute with the federal government over who was responsible for the site’s environmental cleanup.Paddock Enterprises, a successor to a company that owned the Jaite Mill property before the government bought it in 1985, initially sued in 2022, arguing that it shouldn’t be held responsible for the $45 million the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency had initially sought for remediation of the site.The agreement calls for Paddock to pay $33 million to the government and for the government to reimburse Paddock $16.5 million. The settlement requires U.S. District Judge Sara Lioi’s approval.https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2025/05/165-million-settlement-reached-in-cuyahoga-valley-national-park-paper-mill-cleanup.html
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