June 2, 20169 yr Thanks - I do appreciate you looking into it and posting what you found. I read what was available and I do find it interesting. I need to point out that these are not scientific though and I don't think they support the argument all that well. The one in the science journal from the Australian university states in the highlights that there needs to be more research done and the existing research needs updated. It also stated it found positive and negative impacts in its review of implementations of these systems globally. The nytimes article seemed to be referencing much more extensive networks built around keeping people contained in retail. A simple skybridge from a parking lot to a residential building isn't the same and won't affect the area the same. We're also talking about an area that's dominated by a parking garage and a greyhound bus station - but perhaps that will change. The citylab article was just opinion. A 26 year old guy, with no advertised credentials in anything related to this topic, started a group to oppose the skybridge a casino wanted and was interviewed about why he didn't want it. He said basically verbatim what has been mentioned here. And again the scenario there involves a much longer bridge in a very different setting (casino patrons). I think I would probably be opposed to that as well. Basically years ago everyone thought one thing, nowadays everyone thinks something else, in 20 years it'll be something else. Nobody is putting real numbers behind anything, it's all fluffy conventional wisdom stuff and until we do real research into it, it'll continue to be up for debate what the actual effect is aside from the obvious.
June 27, 20168 yr The 12-story Two25 Commons project is scheduled to be heard by the Downtown Commission on Tuesday. The Dispatch article linked below didn't have any new renderings, or much new information from the previous conceptual review. However, it appears that the bridge over Rich Street connecting the new building with the existing parking garage is still in the proposal. The project developer said of the bridge: "(it) will be light and attractive to blend with the lively cityscape outside.": http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/business/2016/06/26/1-columbus-commons-poised-for-final-piece.html
October 18, 20168 yr Rich Street Pedestrian Bridge Approved by Downtown Commission Representatives from NBBJ, Kaufman Development and The Daimler Group returned to the Downtown Commission this morning to review an updated design for the proposed pedestrian bridge over Rich Street that will connect the Columbus Commons parking garage with the new 12-story Two25 Commons mixed-use building that will be located adjacent to the park. More below: http://www.columbusunderground.com/rich-street-pedestrian-bridge-approved-by-downtown-commission "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 21, 20168 yr ^ I'm generally not for any new skybridges. But that one doesn't look bad at all. CU also just released the results of a reader's survey for their favorite architectural design of 2016. Two25 Commons finished first. Below is a parkside rendering of the building under the article link: http://www.columbusunderground.com/the-best-architectural-design-of-2016-two25-commons-by-nbbj
October 21, 20168 yr I don't really have a problem with the skybridge for this project. Hopefully they can get underway ASAP - it will really add a lot to the area and help the Commons finally feel 'complete.'
May 6, 20178 yr Bump! :-D http://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-downtown-grandview-yard-we1
June 2, 20178 yr http://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-downtown-may-2017-we1 Once completed, it's going to make Highpoint look like a colossal mistake. Very Stable Genius
June 3, 20178 yr ^ HighPoint has looked like a colossal mistake from Day 1. But, really glad to see progress moving so quickly on 225. This is really going to be a huge addition to the area. Hopefully it can also spur some interest in redeveloping the properties further east between 3rd and 4th - parking lots, Greyhound, etc.
June 3, 20178 yr ^ HighPoint has looked like a colossal mistake from Day 1. But, really glad to see progress moving so quickly on 225. This is really going to be a huge addition to the area. Hopefully it can also spur some interest in redeveloping the properties further east between 3rd and 4th - parking lots, Greyhound, etc. Honestly it fits with the fabric of that block with the commercial space being filled out and the LC buildings finally coming along. 225 fits with the modern fabric of it's side of the commons, I think all is going to be well once this neighborhood is finished.
June 5, 20178 yr ^ HighPoint has looked like a colossal mistake from Day 1. But, really glad to see progress moving so quickly on 225. This is really going to be a huge addition to the area. Hopefully it can also spur some interest in redeveloping the properties further east between 3rd and 4th - parking lots, Greyhound, etc. Honestly it fits with the fabric of that block with the commercial space being filled out and the LC buildings finally coming along. 225 fits with the modern fabric of it's side of the commons, I think all is going to be well once this neighborhood is finished. HighPoint isn't great architecturally especially where it's most visible - on the Commons side. It does however create a nice continuous wall along High St. Most of the retail spaces are filled in so that's a positive (took a long time...). Let's hope Plaza Properties will rent out the empty storefronts across High.
July 19, 20177 yr So I don't think I've seen this mentioned anywhere here, but it appears this project has a new name: "80 on the Commons". http://www.80onthecommons.com/ I drove past tonight and it appears the steel framing is six-stories high and they should be starting on the seventh-story very soon. I entered downtown from 70 on the east side traveling west, and it is just now tall enough to see when driving over the bridge into downtown.
July 28, 20177 yr 7th story is up. Looks like they're finishing up floor/ceiling between 6 and 7. Framing starting to go up for the 8th story. Very Stable Genius
July 31, 20177 yr 7th story is up. Looks like they're finishing up floor/ceiling between 6 and 7. Framing starting to go up for the 8th story. A picture from this afternoon:
August 10, 20177 yr The newly named '80 on the Commons' is going up fast: July 31 photo posted by CU from http://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-downtown-columbus-july-2017 Two '80 on the Commons' construction photos posted today by the Dispatch in their downtown development article at http://www.dispatch.com/news/20170810/downtown-development-boom-seems-endless-experts-say
August 10, 20177 yr I already love the way this is filling in the park and adding to the street wall. However they have sparked my intrigue with the steel structure having that inward angle... I'm fascinated to see how that'll work for the shape once they start building out the exterior.
August 10, 20177 yr ^That was the goal when the park was initially designed - provide developable parcels along High St. (Highpoint) and the corner or 3rd and Rich to help defer the cost of mall demolition and park construction. What is surprising is how quickly the parcels were sold.
August 10, 20177 yr ^That was the goal when the park was initially designed Oh yeah, I knew that. My bad for not clarifying. I meant these pieces of the actual structure. A very unique design for a steel structure of a midrise... I'm intrigued on how that will add to the final product. Also yes.... These parcels sold super rapidly and I love it. The density and design is perfect for downtown.
August 10, 20177 yr I think the columns are at the edge for the lower floors to maximize the floor plate for office. They taper back for the residential floors to allow for balconies. I don't believe we will be able to see the angle once the exterior walls cover the steel.
September 7, 20177 yr Two Sept. 3, 2017 photos of the 80 on the Commons construction from http://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-cranes-dot-the-skyline-in-downtown-columbus View from Rich Street looking northeastward: View from the Commons looking southeastward:
September 7, 20177 yr ^They're up to the 12th floor on the 3rd St. side. These photos are already out of date!
September 7, 20177 yr ^They're up to the 12th floor on the 3rd St. side. These photos are already out of date! As it should be! :wink: Outstanding news!!
September 14, 20177 yr The building has reached its full height along 3rd St. and precast panels are being hung on the first level.
September 14, 20177 yr Good timing, Pablo! 12-story downtown tower tops out, starts tenant hunt Topping out a planned 12-story high rise downtown, a pair of developers say they're on the hunt for tenants to fill six floors of commercial space space. 80 on the Commons, 80 Rich St., topped out in a ceremony this week. The 12-story, $60 million project – formerly known as Two25– is being developed by the Daimler Group and Kaufman Development on the last vacant lot overlooking Columbus Commons. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2017/09/14/12-story-downtown-tower-tops-out-starts-tenant.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 14, 20177 yr The building has reached its full height along 3rd St. and precast panels are being hung on the first level. You beat me to it! There was a video of it on Kauffmans instagram yesterday.
October 11, 20177 yr The building really makes the park space seem smaller. It's a nice addition to the park, now if something could be done with the Rich St. facade of the garage!! The activity in the foreground in the first photo is preparations for a private event.
November 6, 20177 yr Last Friday's print edition of Business First had this construction pic and update for the 80 on the Commons:
December 24, 20177 yr 80 on the Commons construction pic posted Nov. 30 by CU at http://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-november-2017-part-2 View from Rich Street looking toward Third Street:
January 14, 20187 yr Found this parkside view of the 80 on the Commons from this CU article about an impending restaurant closure across the Columbus Commons park from the construction site: http://www.columbusunderground.com/yavonne-sarber-on-the-coming-closure-of-denovo-and-the-decline-of-fine-dining-ls1 This is a view from that restaurant space looking across the park toward the 80 on the Commons construction site:
January 14, 20187 yr It kinda of...sorta...mostly...matches the renderings. Not bad. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 29, 20187 yr I haven't seen a lot of shots posted from this side, but 225 80 on the Commons really stands out as you travel into downtown from the east. It's not super tall of course, but has a lot of mass and fills out the street out in a nice way,
February 28, 20187 yr I have not seen this in person yet. How is it..really? It does not look that great...or at least not what I expected(something like the 12 story building on High next to the huge garage. Is it at least acceptable? It looks darker than what I expected. What is the look or 'feel' of the building and the materials especially? I am kind of glad this did not go to 17 floors actually. I hate to say I actually prefer the 70's glass box right next to it.
February 28, 20187 yr ^ I don't believe the black exterior you see in the picture is actually the final external layer. I believe there is still a finishing layer that will go on it. I could be wrong though.
February 28, 20187 yr ^That's probably the final color. ^^^The view above will change dramatically when the 15 story building goes up at Rich and 4th.
March 3, 20187 yr This recent Dispatch article about the downtown apartment boom also had a video showing drone views of some recent projects: http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180225/downtown-sees-flood-of-new-apartment-buildings Here are the drone views of 80 on the Commons. The view from Third & Rich: The view from Columbus Commons park:
March 29, 20187 yr Late March view of 80 on the Commons from Rich Street: https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-march-2018-pt1-we1
April 28, 20187 yr Mid-April photo of the '80 on the Commons' from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2018-part-1-we1
April 29, 20187 yr Mid-April photo of the '80 on the Commons' from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2018-part-1-we1 I hate to say it, but I despise this building to the extent that it makes the glass box next to it appear to be an architectural masterpiece lol. Damn it is ugly and squat and dark and cheap looking to me-like it is a nightmare made out of cardboard. lol. Oh well. It appears that most people like it or are ok with it. *So strange to me how I love the 12 story building on High that is against the parking garage, but can't help but detest this one.
April 29, 20187 yr Mid-April photo of the '80 on the Commons' from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2018-part-1-we1 I hate to say it, but I despise this building to the extent that it makes the glass box next to it appear to be an architectural masterpiece lol. Damn it is ugly and squat and dark and cheap looking to me-like it is a nightmare made out of cardboard. lol. Oh well. It appears that most people like it or are ok with it. resistance is futile
April 30, 20187 yr Mid-April photo of the '80 on the Commons' from https://www.columbusunderground.com/construction-roundup-april-2018-part-1-we1 I hate to say it, but I despise this building to the extent that it makes the glass box next to it appear to be an architectural masterpiece lol. Damn it is ugly and squat and dark and cheap looking to me-like it is a nightmare made out of cardboard. lol. Oh well. It appears that most people like it or are ok with it. *So strange to me how I love the 12 story building on High that is against the parking garage, but can't help but detest this one. And that's why I am so against Kaufmanns proposal behind Northstar in the Short North... this is quality that they produce
April 30, 20187 yr You know, black buildings are kind of unprecedented... anywhere and everywhere. Sure, there are buildings that have turned black but...
April 30, 20187 yr I'm not sure about the quality of the materials, but I don't feel the building itself looks bad at all. The problem is that it's in a funky area and stands out. If the blocks around it would fill in, I think it'll be right at home. And of course, from the park's side, it's a bit more complex and pleasant to look at.
April 30, 20187 yr I'm not sure about the quality of the materials, but I don't feel the building itself looks bad at all. The problem is that it's in a funky area and stands out. If the blocks around it would fill in, I think it'll be right at home. And of course, from the park's side, it's a bit more complex and pleasant to look at. I drove up High yesterday and peeked down Rich as I passed by, and I could swear the panels on that park side are white. Also, the original 17 floor proposal may have looked better. This is pretty stocky if you ask me.
April 30, 20187 yr I think the side facing the park actually looks really nice. It's kind of a unique look. Unfortunately, it kind of seems like they didn't even try for the rest of the building. If we could get some 8+ story buildings to go up on the surface lots surrounding it, especially the surface lot diagonal from this building, it would kind of soften the blow of how bad it looks on the other sides.
May 1, 20187 yr Since we're all throwing out our opinions on this I'll add mine too ;) I don't think 225 80 on the Commons looks "bad" necessarily from any side. Yes, it's clearly the Borg Cube on 3rd, but I don't mind that actually. A solid, 12-story streetwall is a pretty good addition anywhere in downtown Columbus as far as I'm concerned. Having no other buildings on 3 sides is what makes it look somewhat awkward IMO. Add something of a similar size and scale (or larger!) on the NE and SE corners as well and we'll really be in business The one design choice I question is going with protruding balconies vs recessed for the apartments... I just think I'd feel very overexposed and wouldn't enjoy spending much time out on my little windswept concrete ledge living here versus the inset balconies at 250 High. I suppose anything is better than HighPoint's 'Juliet' doors though...
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