Do any Ohio cities have anti-cruising ordinances? As more and more people are making the move into Ohio's cities, it might be a nice way to improve quality of life by reducing the number of people joyriding around neighborhoods. In Cincinnati, there are some really, really loud motorcycles that cruise all over the neighborhood late at night, making it difficult to sleep or even watch a movie in your own home.

 

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/the-end-of-cruising

I'm not normally one to care about noise, but the crotch rocket group that rides from Shell up on Calhoun and down Vine then all around the CBD and OTR while all tirelessly revving their engines and making the most noise possible is exceptionally annoying. It wouldn't be as big of an issue if it didn't regularly happen at midnight or 1 in the morning.

should be covered in a simple vehicle inspection that would limit the dB from the exhaust and keep within a certain level.  I'm not sure an "anti-cruising" ordinance would be able to be enforced.

So, another reason to pull people over for no reason? You don't see any problem with that, especially in a city with tenuous race relations and a large black community? I love to go for drives, and I'll often take detours to see projects that are under construction, or visit streets I haven't been down or whatever.  To think that I could get pulled over for doing such a thing is really troubling, especially if the only reason for such a law is to reduce noise so that someone can hear his movie better.

 

If you're concerned about motorcycle noise in particular, perhaps a better response would be to have a max Db level for vehicles at around 80, which is the average sound that a car makes.  I agree that loud motorcycles can be really annoying, but to enact laws that make it illegal to simply drive around is asinine.  Also, there have always been people living in OTR and other urban neighborhoods in Ohio.  They might not have the same skin color or income as the residents who are moving in, but there have always been people there.  There have also been motorcycle riders and 'cruisers' in these communities for decades.  Why should new policies be put in place now? Why is it suddenly an issue that needs to be dealt with?

 

PS Cruising has other connotations than simply joy riding/driving around. Might want to clarify the thread title.

 

The goal is to stop specific things like the motorcycle groups of 50-100 people who overtake an entire street, consistently break essentially every traffic law (they very regularly just don't stop at red lights or crosswalks and essentially commandeer the street) and don't ride around for joy but to overpower every single person within earshot by making as much noise as possible. Don't pull out the "so you can hear your movie better" BS. It's a common tactic to diminish an actual problem by making it about something it's not. Ask literally anyone who lives in OTR about the motorcycle group and they all have the exact same response, new resident or not. These people are annoying to everyone. Including lifelong residents such as those who live around the corner from me who I've talked to about it or some of the ladies at Kroger who have spent most of their lives in OTR.

 

They've modified their bikes specifically to be as loud as physically possible and that's the goal. To make so much noise you piss other people off

 

Also, get over yourself with the race baiting. Seriously. You are jumping to so many incorrect conclusions it's ridiculous. You're offensive and your post is offensive. You've also assumed you know other people's skin color. Your post takes the topic from something that has nothing to do with race and makes it a race problem. Get out of here with that garbage. Pretending like you understand other people's racial awareness is sophomoric. How old are you? You should know better.

The thread is titled "anti-cruising ordinances" because that's what these types of ordinances are called.

 

The goal isn't to stop people from driving around, it's to stop people from cruising around the neighborhood for hours and hours, causing noise, adding congestion to the streets, and disturbing the quality of life for the people that actually live in those neighborhoods.

The title of this thread is spelled wrong.  :-P

The goal is to stop specific things like the motorcycle groups of 50-100 people who overtake an entire street, consistently break essentially every traffic law (they very regularly just don't stop at red lights or crosswalks and essentially commandeer the street) and don't ride around for joy but to overpower every single person within earshot by making as much noise as possible. Don't pull out the "so you can hear your movie better" BS. It's a common tactic to diminish an actual problem by making it something it's not. Ask literally anyone who lives in OTR about the motorcycle group and they all have the exact same response, new resident or not. These people are effing annoying. They've modified their bikes specifically to be as loud as physically possible and that's the goal. To make so much noise you piss other people off

 

Also, get over yourself with the race baiting. Seriously. You are jumping to so many incorrect conclusions it's ridiculous. You're offensive and your post is offensive. You've also assumed you know other people's skin color. Your post takes the topic from something that has nothing to do with race and makes it a race problem. Get out of here with that garbage. Pretending like you understand other people's racial awareness is sophomoric. How old are you? You should know better.

 

Ok, check yourself.  First of all, vague rules that extend police power and increase the amount of judgement calls that are made by the police are going to disproportionately affect minorities due to very real and acknowledged racial profiling.  Have you heard of the stop and frisk policy and who was targeted by that vague policy? I acknowledged that the bikers are annoying, but I said that there are better policy tools at our disposal, such as enforcing Db maximums, or, if these guys are 'breaking essentially every traffic law', then why don't we just try to enforce those? That seems a lot easier and logical than creating a new law. 

 

Btw, serious question, did you actually read the article before posting? About the kid who got pulled over because he forgot a cake at Dairy Queen and made one too many passes by Main Street? Your indignant response suggests you didn't read it. 

 

If pointing out that concerns over even greater police power and potential for greater infringement of rights and freedoms so that new residents in OTR can live more comfortably makes me a 'd-bag' and a 'race baiter', than so be it.

 

Get over yourself.

Yes I read and you'll see I never said I support these. And it's because I don't want those types of situations occurring like in the story.

 

I also never said I think it's a good idea to have vague laws regarding the legality of driving.

 

All I said was the intended goal is one that I support. To stop things like the motorcycle gang from driving around for an hour every few nights making obnoxious amounts of noise.

 

I wasn't calling you a race baiter for pointing out the problems with greater police power (because I agree with that part), I'm calling you a race baiter by pulling out the "there have always been people living in OTR and other urban neighborhoods in Ohio.  They might not have the same skin color or income as the residents who are moving in, but there have always been people there." The people who have lived there their whole lives are equally annoyed by the motorcycle group I mentioned. Stopping the group of motorcycles would benefit everyone, including the existing residents of the neighborhood. I've regularly heard the people living in the building behind me have to get up and console their crying baby every time the motorcycles go by. They're long-term residents and I know for a fact they're frustrated with it. Same with the people who sit out on the sidewalk at 15th and Republic. I believe the words used by an older man were that the motorcycle riders, "would never have gotten very far in my day" implying that people didn't accept this type of act back in the day in the neighborhood.

 

Assuming you know why someone wants something only introduces problems because you have to make assumptions about their character and what they believe in. And you've made quite a few incorrect assumptions so far in this thread.

Two Saturdays ago I saw a guy gun it on Calhoun St. and his female passenger fell off and hit her head on the pavement. She was unconscious in the street for about five minutes.  He attempted to get her back on the motorcycle, but then just took off leaving her sitting on the curb.  So I think he had just met her at some bar and literally didn't know her name. 

There used to be a huge cruising phenomenon on Tuesday nights on Short Vine.  It was triggered by BW3's 10-cent wing night, which over the months grew into Cincinnati's biggest unsanctioned weeknight party.  Occasionally Bogart's booked a metal or punk show the same night, causing a glorious clashing of cultures. 

We used to cruise all the time in the small Appalachian Ohio town I grew up in.  When I was back the last time, it looks like that has ended--I know the neighboring town put in turn restrictions for certain times that essentially ended cruising there.  I don't know if similar restrictions were put in place in my town or not. 

 

Of course, "cruising" there meant a very specific thing--literally driving around on the same circuit for hours on end, occasionally stopping off in parking lots to talk to people. 

edale and jmicha, there's a private message function - use it.

I was in Memphis last weekend and noticed some signs downtown warning about their anti-cruising ordinance. With Beale Street being such a packed nightlife area, I'm sure they had motorcycles cruising around in circles all night long before the ordinance was put in place.

I remember that Circleville, Chillicothe and Portsmouth were all big cruising towns until the late '90s/early 2000s.

I remember that Circleville, Chillicothe and Portsmouth were all big cruising towns until the late '90s/early 2000s.

 

It's still BIG in Piketon, KY.  So big that they air anti-cruising PSA's on the radio stations.  I recorded one of them...it's absolutely hilarious. 

yeah, whatever happened to cruising?

 

it was a longtime american tradition.

 

did all the towns really crack down on it or did it just fall out of favor?

 

one of the biggest i ever experienced was in van wert. it seemed like the whole area turned out to cruise their rides.

 

there use a be a big scene in lorain too when i was a kid where people would 'cruise the view,' meaning around lakeview park. the latinos especially would light up the bottom of the cars and hop them around with the hydraulics fixes. that was a lot of fun.

 

i think there was one in n. collinwood too in cleveland, but i dk for sure, i was too young to ever know that one.

 

when we were in college and out on the town we would watch the big scene around downtown detroit too, where people would cruise their mini trucks with the big tires and strip lighting and blast music. that was always cool to see, but that one could get intense and intimidating at times.

 

While there were crackdowns, the main thing is that people stopped getting bored. People not getting bored is the biggest cultural change of the past 20 years.

It's still alive and well in OTR...

The people who do loiter today don't have the unlimited in-home entertainment options or simply don't find them appealing. Almost everyone that didn't work 60+ hours a week or have a lot of kids loitered in some fashion before about 2000 or so.

Also, driving has gotten more expensive.  Not nearly so attractive for bored, broke teenagers.

I saw some vintage cruising in 1960s Cadicallac convertibles last night, but you've got to wonder how these guys are getting all this money.  They all looked professionally restored...like $30k+ restoration jobs from shops out in California.  Most of the "restored" vintage cars you saw cruising around Ohio in the 90s were cheapo restorations...$10k at most and more like $5k. 

It's going to be interesting in 10-15 years when most of the collector cars are Japanese sports cars from the '90s.

The OP mentions super loud and annoying motorcycles, I'm sure if it were put to a popular vote such stupidly loud machines would be outlawed by a 70%-30% margin.

 

Every weekend these stupid midlife crisis biker "gangs" roll through the flats, revving their bikes in almost stopped traffic, and generally just annoying people. Check out the south park episode about Harleys and that's exactly how everyone reacts.

Harley is terrified that they will lose their mystique as a company if regulations such as exhaust laws and helmet requirements pass and lobbies the crap out of lawmakers both themselves and through the AMA. Since Harleys and all other bikes can't leave the showroom withe loud pipes, this lobbying is done to the benefit of exhaust companies and home fabricators.

PS Cruising has other connotations than simply joy riding/driving around. Might want to clarify the thread title.

 

Yes.

 

yeah, whatever happened to cruising?

 

it was a longtime american tradition.

 

did all the towns really crack down on it or did it just fall out of favor?

 

 

*snickers*

 

Those damn importuning laws!