Clark-Fulton's St Rocco Festival. Buona Festa!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Little Italy's big summer weekend...via the Rapid. Mangia bevi e sii felice...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

edition for addition

What a great selection of photos from a great neighborhood!

Great photos!

Meraviglioso!

so nice to see this -- !

Nice set! This isn't on the old Primo Vino space is it?

 

http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/ad261/pwmcleveland/117th/IMG_4024_zpslkuh04dj.jpg

^ No, that house is on Random Rd. between Paul Ave. and Cornell.

^ Thanks. I figured it wasn't the Primo Vino space. It just looked familiar from the renderings we saw. The offset floors and horizontal windows.

 

.....from Cleveland's west side

pictures added at the top of thread

Fun facts for those interested. There were several distinct Italian settlements in Cleveland, so this can explain the roots of the two festas that Dumbledore attended.

 

"Big Italy" was a neighborhood in the area around Woodland and Orange Avenues South of Downtown that no longer exists and today consists of the innerbelt and the main post office. The Italians who settled in this area were mostly from Sicily (and therefore would have resented the fact that I just referred to them as Italians). When they first got here, many worked in the produce business at the Central Market. They eventually migrated to areas on the Southeast Side of Cleveland, around Woodland and 116th, and later to suburbs like Bedford, Garfield, Maple Warrensville, eventually Solon. Frank Russo and Jimmy Dimora would fall under this umbrella.

 

The Little Italy/Murray Hill, East Side Italians came mostly from the Campobasso region in South Central Italy. They later migrated further East to Collinwood and then to the East Suburbs including Euclid, Mayfield Heights, South Euclid/Lyndhurst, and Lake County. Their churches were Holy Rosary in Murray Hill and Holy Redeemer in Collinwood. The Feast of the Assumption, the second group of pictures in Dumbledore's post, was created by this group.

 

The Detroit & W.65th, Fulton and W. 33rd, West Side Italians came as I understand it, mostly from Bari in Southeastern Italy, and Sicily. Their church was St. Rocco's. When suburbanization happened, many of them went South to Parma. The St. Rocco's Festival in the first group of pictures from Dumbledore comes from this group. I don't know much about this group and I really need to check out the St. Rocco's feast one year. The first time I went around Gordon Sq. I was surprised at the Italian flags painted on the telephone poles.

 

I am painting in broad strokes here and there certainly was some mixing around especially in more recent years, however, I think this a relatively accurate model of the migration patterns.

 

Sources:

 

1. http://ech.case.edu/cgi/article.pl?id=I7

2. http://www.clevelandmemory.org/italians/table.html

3. http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/ref/collection/p128201coll0/id/2496

4. Private genealogical research and conversations with a lot of people

Nice addition! Never been inside St. Rocco's. And Fulton is a neighborhood often overlooked here at UO.

Love Cleveland's ethnic diversity.

Fun facts for those interested. There were several distinct Italian settlements in Cleveland, so this can explain the roots of the two festas that Dumbledore attended.

 

"Big Italy" was a neighborhood in the area around Woodland and Orange Avenues South of Downtown that no longer exists and today consists of the innerbelt and the main post office. The Italians who settled in this area were mostly from Sicily (and therefore would have resented the fact that I just referred to them as Italians). When they first got here, many worked in the produce business at the Central Market. They eventually migrated to areas on the Southeast Side of Cleveland, around Woodland and 116th, and later to suburbs like Bedford, Garfield, Maple Warrensville, eventually Solon. Frank Russo and Jimmy Dimora would fall under this umbrella.

 

The Little Italy/Murray Hill, East Side Italians came mostly from the Campobasso region in South Central Italy. They later migrated further East to Collinwood and then to the East Suburbs including Euclid, Mayfield Heights, South Euclid/Lyndhurst, and Lake County. Their churches were Holy Rosary in Murray Hill and Holy Redeemer in Collinwood. The Feast of the Assumption, the second group of pictures in Dumbledore's post, was created by this group.

 

The Detroit & W.65th, Fulton and W. 33rd, West Side Italians came as I understand it, mostly from Bari in Southeastern Italy, and Sicily. Their church was St. Rocco's. When suburbanization happened, many of them went South to Parma. The St. Rocco's Festival in the first group of pictures from Dumbledore comes from this group. I don't know much about this group and I really need to check out the St. Rocco's feast one year. The first time I went around Gordon Sq. I was surprised at the Italian flags painted on the telephone poles.

 

I am painting in broad strokes here and there certainly was some mixing around especially in more recent years, however, I think this a relatively accurate model of the migration patterns.

 

Sources:

 

1. http://ech.case.edu/cgi/article.pl?id=I7

2. http://www.clevelandmemory.org/italians/table.html

3. http://cplorg.cdmhost.com/cdm/ref/collection/p128201coll0/id/2496

4. Private genealogical research and conversations with a lot of people

 

Excellent description and summary. I would also add that many Greeks also settled in Big Italy and were also heavily involved in the wholesale and retail grocery businesses. When that neighborhood started declining in the 1920s, they didn't seem to follow their Italian brethren east along Woodland to the East 110th area. Instead they seemed to outmigrate in all directions -- to Tremont (Annunciation Greek Orthodox Church in Tremont remains a center of gravity for the region's Greek community), Cleveland's Edgewater neighborhood (where many remain today and continue to migrate) and into Cleveland Heights.

 

Thanks mu2010 for the information. I dig the Detroit / W 65th old neighborhood. Micro-Italy i think is how some refer to it.

 

Nice addition! Never been inside St. Rocco's. And Fulton is a neighborhood often overlooked here at UO.

 

Yes its hard to believe that this is Ohio City's southern neighbor (and Tremont's western neighbor). BUt I-90 makes it seem worlds apart sometimes.

To put it into perspectve, St Rocco's Church  is only 5 minutes by car down Fulton (maybe 4 minutes if you make all  the lights) from the Bridge/Fulton epicenter of Oh City (for the cool cats out there, thats only 4-5 minutes from Le Petit Triangle Cafe).

 

And oh, sorry, to my italian places in Little Italy, tremont, Parma, Cleve hts, downtown , Euclid and River....but this is quite possibly the best for Italian in Cleveland,  Bruno's on W 41st Street. (to put its location into perspective, its prob only 3 minutes by car down W 41st from the uber hip Jack Flaps in Oh City)

 

 

 

Been there many times going back 15 years. In that parking lot on the right you can get your car detailed by an employee of the same folks who own Bruno's. They also have a private security guard since the neighborhood is a little iffy. I usually go there for lunch or an early or late dinner. If you go there at 6-8 p.m. even on a weeknight, expect to wait up to an hour.

 

Because I can walk to it, I'm kinda partial to Pepper's Cafe in Lakewood (max seating is 29 per the fire department permit above the door). This is the view from the BACK of the restaurant during my visit there two evenings ago....