Posted October 15, 20159 yr Has Kepler Discovered an Alien Megastructure? OCT 14, 2015 02:23 PM ET // BY IAN O'NEILL NASA’s Kepler Space Telescope is tasked with finding small, rocky worlds orbiting distant stars. However, exoplanets aren’t the only thing Kepler can detect — stellar flares, star spots and dusty planetary rings can also pop up in the mission’s observations. But there’s also been speculation that Kepler may have the ability to detect more than natural phenomena; if they’re out there, Kepler may also detect the signature of artificial structures orbiting other stars. Imagine an advanced civilization that’s well up on the Kardashev scale and has the ability to harness energy directly from its star. This hypothetical alien civilization may want to construct vast megastructures, like supersized solar arrays in orbit around their host star, that could be so big that they blot out a sizable fraction of starlight as they pass in front. MORE: http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-life-exoplanets/has-kepler-discovered-an-alien-megastructure-151014.htm "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 20, 20159 yr The moment I read that article I was reminded of the Ringworld series by Larry Niven. Not a Dyson Sphere, but a similarly massive theorized space structure.
October 22, 20159 yr It appears KIC 8462852 is relatively close to the constellation Draco (Latin for dragon). And many people who believe in this type of thing claim that Draco is home of one of the reptilian type races in the universe. One of the worst ones, actually. (http://arcturi.com/ReptilianArchives/ReptilianFacts.html) Perhaps we don't go poking the bear, or reptile in this case. Not that it will matter much in the grand scheme of things. Known Types of Aliens and Races ET A-Z Listing compiled from many sources.
December 7, 20213 yr Hmm "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 27, 20213 yr Is this foreshadowing?? Based on how much of society has reacted to this pandemic, I don't hold out much hope. I tend to think that if aliens visited Earth in the 1500s versus today, the intellectual reaction wouldn't be too different. NASA enlists theologians to assess how we would react to alien life https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/nasa-enlists-theologians-to-assess-how-we-would-react-to-alien-life/ar-AAS7KE3 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 27, 20213 yr I'd say it would be worse today because of the proliferation of firearms and explosives among the God and Guns nutters. "And God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. They shall rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, the cattle, the whole earth, and all the creeping things that creep on earth.” ET visiting would directly contradict Genesis, and there would be mass conflict: suicide bombings, militia mobilizations, martyrdom, panic, markets crashing, fear, anger, suspicion and paranoia of neighbors and governments, etc, would be the desperate response from the nutters. The response to the War of the Worlds radio show was the closest thing we've seen to how we'd respond to supposedly legit alien contact (well, invasion), and the population didn't exactly act well. Imagine that on a global scale. Plus there would be legit concerns from the more rational types, in particular with unknown infections (either receiving or giving), so unless the ETs convincingly addressed that, we might have an inadvertent (or intentional, who knows) smallpox'ish blanket situation. There is probably intelligent sentient life out there, drake equation notwithstanding. Hell, I can imagine there is sentient life on Earth that co-exist in different dimensions that our brains can't comprehend. But as for ETs from the stars, why would they even want to visit our planet, unless there was a need for water and perhaps to understand the evolution of biologies. Edited December 27, 20213 yr by TBideon
December 27, 20213 yr ^ Totally agree. I can’t think of a single useful thing theologians could bring to this anyway. Religion uttered its last useful words a couple thousand years ago. Since then we’ve developed more accurate, intelligent and elegant explanations for pretty much everything. All that’s left is ‘the god of gaps’ and an alien visitation/ verification would destroy what little is left. My hovercraft is full of eels
December 27, 20213 yr During World War 2, allied forces went to isolated islands in the Western Pacific. They encountered native populations of primitive people who had no previous contact with the outside world. Those people were amazed with the flying craft, lights, foods and medicines the troops brought. Things that were commonplace to the outside world had no concept in their minds. Those troops were worshiped as "godlike" or magical beings.
December 27, 20213 yr ^ Yep, bringing about the ‘cargo cults’. Although some may be offended by the analogy, these recently-born religions give us a clear insight into how the ‘established’ religions came about and got a foothold among the simple people of the day. This ain’t gonna happen if and when aliens appear on the scene though. To build on @TBideoncomments, there’s way too many people with too much power, influence and money tied up in the Abrahamic religious establishments to let go of it, or have it replaced, without a fight. My hovercraft is full of eels
January 5, 20223 yr 👽 UFOs, the Channel Islands and the Navy's 'drone swarm' mystery By Marik von Rennenkampff, Opinion Contributor — 01/05/22 08:00 AM EST 483 The Navy has a perplexing mystery on its hands. For several weeks in 2019, unknown objects stalked U.S. warships off the coast of southern California. While the bizarre “drone” encounters remain unsolved, the incidents occurred in an area with a long history of UFO sightings, including two of the most credible encounters on record. According to documents reviewed by The Drive, the first reports of unidentified objects hovering and flying near Navy vessels sparked a sweeping, high-level investigation. The Navy, working with the FBI and Coast Guard, now appears to have ruled out civilian activity or U.S. military operations as plausible explanations for the encounters. This leaves two possibilities, each with extraordinary implications. more: https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/588223-ufos-the-channel-islands-and-the-navys-drone-swarm-mystery
January 13, 20223 yr only the shadow knows ... Air Force technician came face-to-face with 6ft 'shadow person' while guarding nukes Former USAF nuclear weapons technician Adrian Reister describes glowing 'orbs' hovering around the high-security Missouri base – and coming face-to-face with a 'shadow person' Michael MoranAudience Writer 08:29, 13 JAN 2022 Updated08:34, 13 JAN 2022 more: https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-news/air-force-technician-came-face-25932532
January 18, 20223 yr naturally … there is a japanese town obssessed with aliens: https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxdxx5/japan-aliens-iino
February 11, 20232 yr You've gotta be kidding me....another one?? Stop shooting down alien spacecraft or they gonna get rowdy on us! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 11, 20232 yr I'm just spitballing here, but maybe we shouldn't be shooting these things down? I know the Chinese have made us paranoid, but let's not be so quick to pull the trigger... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 12, 20232 yr WTF "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 12, 20232 yr And it continues Congressman chimes in on Montana sighting. Winds aloft would've taken a floating object over Wisconsin. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 12, 20232 yr Fighter jets were scrambled and apparently "decommissioned" the object "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 12, 20232 yr All jokes aside, does this really happen all the time? If so, why are we hearing about it now? Theories seem to be everything from a distraction from the East Palestine disaster to a "show of force" after the Chinese balloon. If it doesn't happen all the time, then the obvious questions are- who and why now? The answers to those are probably not great.
February 12, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, jonoh81 said: All jokes aside, does this really happen all the time? If so, why are we hearing about it now? When I first moved to Ohio in the 1990's I used to sometimes see lights zigzagging in the night sky, at high enough altitude they made no sound and looked like stars. At that time I had assumed they were satellites until I learned that satellites don't move like that. Now I'm wondering if this kind of flying spycraft type thing has been happening all the time.
June 5, 20232 yr FWIW... INTELLIGENCE OFFICIALS SAY U.S. HAS RETRIEVED CRAFT OF NON-HUMAN ORIGIN https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 27, 20231 yr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 27, 20231 yr I saw a meme not too long ago that said there can’t be evidence of aliens in the possession of the US government because there’s no way DJT would have been able to keep that secret. Then I remembered in “Independence Day” there was a credible depiction of the President not knowing. So hmmm…..maybe. But to follow up on that, it would be really likely that someone involved would do enough to make him suspicious, and at that point he’d be relentless.
July 27, 20231 yr I get the fascination with UFOs relates to Cold War pathologies. But it's all crap. These ships just started appearing coincidentally after World War 2? And only in the US? That evidence of atomic power control is what drew ET's attention? There is probably intelligent life out there, though more in the vein of higher and lower realities rather than within different star systems. But those entities sure as s**t aren't flying around Nevada and Mississipi. Military industrial complex is what's moving those advanced vessels, that, and overactive imaginations of people becoming more isolated and religiously agnostic with every generation. It is scary being alone out there, and there's a comfort believing some big brother alien species will swoop in and cure cancer and heart disease any time now. Edited July 27, 20231 yr by TBideon
April 28, 20241 yr Forget Mars, are there aliens on K2-18b? Planet twice as big as Earth emitting gas 'only produced by life' sparks huge excitement among astronomers https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13353023/aliens-K2-18b-distant-planet-emitting-gas.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 28, 20241 yr It's long been said that finding extra-terrestrial life of any sort will be an absolute earth shattering discovery that will completely upend everybody's sense of the human species' place in the universe and cause us all to re-evaluate our belief systems. I just came to the realization that it will not be so. Some of us have made space for the existence of extraterrestrial life in our personal belief system for our entire lives. Finding extraterrestrial life will be amazing and exciting, but won't require any real philosophical realignment. On the other side, if we've learned anything in the past few years, it's that anyone for whom the existence of life outside the bounds of our planet is the least bit philosophically inconvenient will just ignore it. If little green men came down and probed them, they would just pretend it never happened, or that it was actually crisis actors in disguise trying to throw the next election, or something. Finding some gases indicative of alien algae won't even register.
April 28, 20241 yr I'm guessing that Hollywood has jaded us. If we find a fossilized mollusk inside a meteorite that hit Earth, most of us are going to react with "So what?" Another factor is the time it would take to get there. Perhaps life in space is too far away for any of us to care enough to do anything about it? At present, we have the technology to travel as fast as about 87 percent of light speed, but with the acceleration and deceleration, it averages out to 57 percent of light speed. K2-18b is 124 light years from Earth, or a 217-year trip (although when approaching the speed light, time will compress for them so the trip will be "only" about 200 years). Either way, we need to send some baby-making astronauts if human beings are ever going to set foot there. And those who land there and ask to be taken to K2-18b's overweight leaders will never know what living on Earth is like. When they land, no one here on Earth will know the outcome of the mission until their signal reaches us in 341 years. Or is it 324 years? Either way, I hope someone will still be assigned to preserve and staff that 300-year-old antique radio console over three centuries.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 28, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, X said: It's long been said that finding extra-terrestrial life of any sort will be an absolute earth shattering discovery that will completely upend everybody's sense of the human specie's place in the universe and cause us all to re-evaluate our belief systems. I just came to the realization that it will not be so. Some of us have made space for the existence of extraterrestrial life in our personal belief system for our entire lives. Finding extraterrestrial life will be amazing and exciting, but won't require any real philosophical realignment. On the other side, if we've learned anything in the past few years, it's that anyone for whom the existence of life outside the bounds of our planet is the least bit philosophically inconvenient will just ignore it. If little green men came down and probed them, they would just pretend it never happened, or that it was actually crisis actors in disguise trying to throw the next election, or something. Finding some gases indicative of alien algae won't even register. Scientific discoveries, since the Renaissance, have successively eaten away at humanity's beliefs that Earth is at the center of everything, that Earth was created pretty much as we see it today a relatively short while ago, and that humans are, somehow, special, a unique creation These advances have intruded into the realm of various philosophies and religious beliefs creating the struggles between religion and modernity of the last few centuries. It must have been jarring for many to go from being the sacred one and onlies at the center of the Universe to an imperfect species, sharing the same basic building blocks as all other terrestrial life, on a small planet revolving around an average star in the outskirts of one in billions of galaxies. Given a less "special" existence, in a huge Universe, the chances that Earth is the only abode of life, to me, seems extremely unlikely.
June 9, 20241 yr ufo’s & nukes — EXCLUSIVEThe haunting connection between UFOs and America's nuclear weapons is laid bare in fascinating new study which concludes: They're trying to stop us from annihilating ourselves By Matthew Phelan Senior Science Reporter For Dailymail.Com 08 Jun 2024 Do they come in peace? The question has hung over the UFO mystery forever, but a new study comes closer to an answer than ever before. more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13502357/The-haunting-connection-UFOs-Americas-nuclear-weapons-laid-bare-fascinating-new-study-concludes-Theyre-trying-stop-annihilating-ourselves.html Above, an officially 'unexplained' UFO case from the Air Force's Project Blue Book files, a July 16, 1952 encounter photographed by Coast Guard seaman Shell Alpert of four UFOs seen through the window of a photographic laboratory near Salem, Massachusetts
June 9, 20241 yr A lot of factors are required for intelligent, sentient life to occur naturally and without divine involvement. The fact that it happened once is virtually impossible. But twice? And that those beings would visit our planet? Unlikely and highly unlikely.
July 20, 2024Jul 20 found by nasa on earth — https://www.scmp.com/news/world/article/2169896/perfectly-rectangular-iceberg-floating-antarctica-looks-deliberately-cut
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