October 24, 20195 yr ^ 1999-2004 I used to go to São Paulo 4 or 5 times a year for work. Even after many visits, I remained amazed at how when you come into land at the airport you can look out of either side of the ‘plane and see nothing but tower blocks stretching to the horizon in every direction. I love the city and it’s energy although I’ve spent enough time sitting at a standstill on Marginal Tiete to know that I could never live there! When it rains the place grinds to a halt. My hovercraft is full of eels
October 24, 20195 yr 20 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Mexico City sprawl This looks like a promo pic for some PS4 game ?
October 24, 20195 yr 23 minutes ago, roman totale XVII said: ^ 1999-2004 I used to go to São Paulo 4 or 5 times a year for work. Even after many visits, I remained amazed at how when you come into land at the airport you can look out of either side of the ‘plane and see nothing but tower blocks stretching to the horizon in every direction. I love the city and it’s energy although I’ve spent enough time sitting at a standstill on Marginal Tiete to know that I could never live there! When it rains the place grinds to a halt. I have a friend who lived there for 3 years. He met a girl and they broke up because they couldn't handle "long distance relationships".... He lived in Japan Town in the Liberdade District... she lived in Cerqueira César... 5 MILES APART FROM EACH OTHER... but the public transportation situation wasn't great and a car ride would take 45 minutes in regular traffic and over an hour in rush hour.
October 24, 20195 yr On 3/13/2016 at 8:39 AM, mrnyc said: right on time, the largest photo ever taken of nyc 360 degrees and 20+ gigapixels http://360gigapixels.com/nyc-skyline-photo-panorama/ Seeing this for the first time. Wow, I can even see into the windows of the Washington Square Hotel we stayed at in May. I spent about a half-hour zooming in and studying different parts of the city. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 25, 20195 yr 7 minutes ago, mrnyc said: try this on for size comrades -- commie blocks in moscow. Ahhhh... Communism really allows for creativity and ingenuity!
October 25, 20195 yr 13 minutes ago, mrnyc said: try this on for size comrades -- commie blocks in moscow. at least they have nice trees I guess
October 25, 20195 yr I'd squat on the sidewalk with a Baltika and a cigarette too if that's where I had to go home at night
October 25, 20195 yr Wow, those commie blocks in Moscow! Anyone ever watch the Mike Looks at Maps youtube vids. There was one he did on Tirana Albania, a city that is constructed with dense commie blocks but in a way that's honestly quite nice. As we know here at UO, it's s all about the scale of the built environment.
October 25, 20195 yr 46 minutes ago, YABO713 said: Ahhhh... Communism really allows for creativity and ingenuity! American suburban capitalism offers so much more.... Edited October 25, 20195 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 25, 20195 yr soul killing apt living or king of your own anonymous burb castle? flip a quarter lol!
October 25, 20195 yr 16 minutes ago, KJP said: American suburban capitalism offers so much more.... Now try urban capitalism.
October 25, 20195 yr 34 minutes ago, viscomi said: Wow, those commie blocks in Moscow! Anyone ever watch the Mike Looks at Maps youtube vids. There was one he did on Tirana Albania, a city that is constructed with dense commie blocks but in a way that's honestly quite nice. As we know here at UO, it's s all about the scale of the built environment. i was, well, half heartedly looking at buying something there over this past summer. tirana has a got itself low key cool vibe these days. its cheap and i keep reading about it.
October 25, 20195 yr 1 hour ago, mrnyc said: i was, well, half heartedly looking at buying something there over this past summer. tirana has a got itself low key cool vibe these days. its cheap and i keep reading about it. Some of the beaches in Albania look really beautiful. I even started a marketing slogan that they can have. Conveniently located between Greece and Italy....Albania!
October 25, 20195 yr 5 hours ago, cbussoccer said: Now try urban capitalism. Okay, here ya go @cbussoccer. Including rail/transit lines either built by the private sector or still operated by the private sector.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 25, 20195 yr These aerial photos tell us nothing about what these places look like at ground level. And that's what makes density suffocating or invigorating.
October 28, 20195 yr mais bien sur, we must include zee parisian density. speaking of europe, here is the most dense part -- its in barcelona https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-5558193/The-fascinating-maps-reveal-Europes-densely-populated-countries.html
October 30, 20195 yr On 10/25/2019 at 11:59 AM, mrnyc said: i was, well, half heartedly looking at buying something there over this past summer. I support this. Especially if you install an urbanohio guest room.
October 30, 20195 yr On 10/27/2019 at 11:43 PM, mrnyc said: mais bien sur, we must include zee parisian density. speaking of europe, here is the most dense part -- its in barcelona https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-5558193/The-fascinating-maps-reveal-Europes-densely-populated-countries.html That Paris density view looks beautiful to me.
November 2, 20195 yr On 10/30/2019 at 7:15 AM, Toddguy said: That Paris density view looks beautiful to me. Looks and use can be deceiving. Many of those interior units building can be horrific on the inside. When I lived in London, buildings like this I hated. As you had to enter from the street, then you may be in an alley or secondary court yard that would lead to stairs to your building or unit. Many times that courtyard was unusable. If anyone has seen the first Taken movie, they showcase some of these buildings. Many can conceal illegal businesses. I do love the "square block" Catalan developed buildings/districts in Barcelona. I would love to see that instituted here in Cleveland. Those Rubic's cube "looking" streets pack a lot of density and retail. No cars on interior streets only walkways and access to transportation.
November 3, 20195 yr 22 hours ago, MyTwoSense said: Looks and use can be deceiving. Many of those interior units building can be horrific on the inside. When I lived in London, buildings like this I hated. As you had to enter from the street, then you may be in an alley or secondary court yard that would lead to stairs to your building or unit. Many times that courtyard was unusable. If anyone has seen the first Taken movie, they showcase some of these buildings. Many can conceal illegal businesses. I do love the "square block" Catalan developed buildings/districts in Barcelona. I would love to see that instituted here in Cleveland. Those Rubic's cube "looking" streets pack a lot of density and retail. No cars on interior streets only walkways and access to transportation. Yeah I was just going on looks from the pics. I admit I don't know about the rest. Also yeah the courtyards look less like courtyards and more like light wells-on the small side. Still looks attractive from the air. That Barcelona pic looks particularly claustrophobic to me. Is that close to any open green areas or parks?
November 3, 20195 yr 1 hour ago, Toddguy said: Yeah I was just going on looks from the pics. I admit I don't know about the rest. Also yeah the courtyards look less like courtyards and more like light wells-on the small side. Still looks attractive from the air. That Barcelona pic looks particularly claustrophobic to me. Is that close to any open green areas or parks? look at the Barcelona photo on google maps. I'm not super familiar with Central B, as I've spent most of my time on the East and Coast.
December 2, 20195 yr On 11/3/2019 at 12:02 PM, Toddguy said: Yeah I was just going on looks from the pics. I admit I don't know about the rest. Also yeah the courtyards look less like courtyards and more like light wells-on the small side. Still looks attractive from the air. That Barcelona pic looks particularly claustrophobic to me. Is that close to any open green areas or parks? re the barca neighborhoods -- its not that highest density neighborhood, he is talking about this (via the interesting photos thread). its a contender for thee urban density ideal.
December 3, 20195 yr 20 hours ago, mrnyc said: re the barca neighborhoods -- its not that highest density neighborhood, he is talking about this (via the interesting photos thread). its a contender for thee urban density ideal. I have seen these type of blocks before and as long as there is some parkland nearby(looks like there is by the Sagrada Familia)then it would be cool. Also given the climate I would really like to see the rooftops activated as much as possible. Pedestrian wise those are pretty big blocks actually.-I would not want anything bigger. The corner cuts do make it look attractive from the air as well. If they had full alleys bisecting them they would be perfect. Ideally(if I had the money to actually live there)I would want a rooftop garden. I have read somewhere that the people of Barcelona really love living in these type of apartments almost like no other city...is that true?
December 3, 20195 yr 23 hours ago, mrnyc said: its a contender for thee urban density ideal. If we're talking American cities and urban density ideal, then my vote is for Rittenhouse Square.
December 3, 20195 yr @Toddguy You should visit ? Give time to adjust and settle in. 5 hours on a cruise ship stop is not enough. If you still find the blocks too big you can always go to the old city.
December 13, 20195 yr On 12/3/2019 at 8:57 AM, DEPACincy said: If we're talking American cities and urban density ideal, then my vote is for Rittenhouse Square. Rittehouse Square is such a great neighborhood, and it doesn't feel overpowering either, it's just right. Speaking of density, the crane is up for the 599 ft Laurel in the grassy patch at the lower right of the above image (NW part of Rittenhouse Square).
December 22, 20195 yr On 10/24/2019 at 9:10 AM, YABO713 said: Mexico City sprawl Most of this type of development is actually outside of the city boundaries in the State of Mexico, which surrounds the city on 3 sides- north, east and west. A lot of this was built between 1950-1980, when the city and region were adding upwards of 2 million per decade. Standards of construction were obviously not in place, and because there was a lack of housing, a lot of this happened. Although some sources list the greater population at 20-21 million, because so many people are likely undercounted, it's probably closer to 24-25 million in about 700 square miles, MUCH smaller than almost any US metro area. Even at 20 million, the density across the 700 square miles is about 25,000, but that might actually be lower than what it was before 1979. Earthquakes that year, and of course the big one in 1985, caused a mini exodus from the heavily damaged central core. I'm not sure if the 2017 quake had a similar effect. in any case, yeah, living in Mexico City is not for those who don't mind a lot of people.
December 22, 20195 yr A couple shots below from Lotte Tower in Seoul. I have to agree with some earlier posts that the low rise neighborhoods in the foreground of each of these shots feel much denser than the high-rise apartment/tower in the park neighborhoods.
December 22, 20195 yr I can't speak for Seoul, but what amazed me about Japanese cities was how damn peaceful they were despite the ridiculous density. As soon as you get off one of the main drags in Harajuku or wherever, it's incredibly quiet and traffic-free. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
December 22, 20195 yr "Damn peaceful" you sound like a southern sheriff. "We like things damn peaceful round these parts"
December 23, 20195 yr I saw an article that featured Seoul in 1970 and the place was still amazingly primitive. Lots of dirt roads in the city helped explain to me why so many Koreans emigrated to the United States around that time.
December 23, 20195 yr 23 hours ago, BigDipper 80 said: I can't speak for Seoul, but what amazed me about Japanese cities was how damn peaceful they were despite the ridiculous density. As soon as you get off one of the main drags in Harajuku or wherever, it's incredibly quiet and traffic-free. This is true of Philly too. People from NYC come to Philly and are blown away by how peaceful it is. Density doesn't have to be anxiety inducing.
December 23, 20195 yr You don't hear Harleys that are 2 miles away like you do in the semi-rural areas.
December 24, 20195 yr 23 hours ago, DEPACincy said: This is true of Philly too. People from NYC come to Philly and are blown away by how peaceful it is. Density doesn't have to be anxiety inducing. What "people" in NYC? Can you list a source? ?️?♂️ I like Philly and love there small one way streets and alley's as it reminds me of Cleveland, in some aspects. But once you turn off of these particular short blocks, there is quite a bit of urban noise. not crazy, but not serene.
December 24, 20195 yr 3 hours ago, MyTwoSense said: What "people" in NYC? Can you list a source? ?️?♂️ I like Philly and love there small one way streets and alley's as it reminds me of Cleveland, in some aspects. But once you turn off of these particular short blocks, there is quite a bit of urban noise. not crazy, but not serene. These alleys and small streets are literally spread all across the city. Sure there is plenty of urban noise on main thoroughfares but there are tons of small, quaint blocks. No other American city has them at this scale. As for source, I'm talking about the many personal conversations I've had with current and former New Yorkers in Philly.
January 3, 20205 yr On 12/24/2019 at 3:00 PM, DEPACincy said: These alleys and small streets are literally spread all across the city. Sure there is plenty of urban noise on main thoroughfares but there are tons of small, quaint blocks. No other American city has them at this scale. As for source, I'm talking about the many personal conversations I've had with current and former New Yorkers in Philly. I agree. That's like I said on the last page about Rittenhouse. It's a great neighborhood with amazing density, but it doesn't feel overwhelming. Walking through Society Hill and Old City you know you're in some of the best preserved neighborhoods in one of the nation's largest cities, but it feels quaint and pleasant to walk through. It helps that Philly has such a great tree canopy in these areas, too. Every city has it's areas where it's quiet and peaceful, but like you said, Philly just does a really good job at preserving these areas all over the city.
September 15, 20213 yr China's not too good with market-based construction. They built it and no one came. So they demolished it -- ** multiple high-rises simultaneously **...... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 15, 20213 yr 11 hours ago, KJP said: China's not too good with market-based construction. They built it and no one came. So they demolished it -- ** multiple high-rises simultaneously **...... That one tower in the back/center pancakes about 2-3 stories and somehow stays standing, albeit with quite a lean. You probably couldn't recreate that if you tried.
October 5, 20213 yr 40 minutes ago, mrnyc said: tokyo You can also see Yokohama in the distance, top-left. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 8, 20213 yr mumbai dhaka -- i saw it was voted world's worst holiday travel city by the brits dhaka again -- i think these pix you see are eid holiday, not an everyday thing china beach -- probably also a holiday, but i dk
October 30, 20213 yr I wonder how many housing units are crammed into this megablock in the Kowloon Walled City? And what's the air flow and plumbing like in there?? BTW, someone slapped a University of California-Santa Barbara logo on the block as a joke in reference to this bit of news..... https://www.independent.com/2021/10/28/architect-resigns-in-protest-over-ucsb-mega-dorm/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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