Posted July 1, 20168 yr Ohio Attorney General: Cities cannot set their own minimum wage http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2016/06/ohio_attorney_general_cities_c.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 25, 20187 yr Part of a Twitter discussion.... "Senate Bill 210 would prevent local communities from placing fees on disposable bags, bottles and other waste containers." I knew it was only a matter of time before our God-awful General Assembly did this. https://t.co/1mC9wtQ2Km ____________ Eventually local governments will have to act to limit the general assembly through the Ohio Constitution Protecting home rule. Replace the local government fund with a 90/10% local/state share for state taxes raised in local jurisdictions for true revenue sharing. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
April 25, 20187 yr There are too many municipalities to allow for a strong home rule in Ohio. Ohio is already a mess to do business in because of all these separate municipalities and jurisdictions. I am glad the General Assembly can stop moronic laws like this from small municipalities.
April 25, 20187 yr There are too many municipalities to allow for a strong home rule in Ohio. Ohio is already a mess to do business in because of all these separate municipalities and jurisdictions. I am glad the General Assembly can stop moronic laws like this from small municipalities. I feel the same way about states' rights TBH.
April 25, 20187 yr Think about how much worse it would be with strong townships. Ours are mid-grade. I think I said this on a different thread, but I still don't even have that much grasp of what a township in Ohio actually does. Like, if I live in a township and vote for township trustee, what exactly am I voting on?
April 25, 20187 yr There is a big difference between the 2. Federal law is set up as a Constitutional Republic guaranteeing states rights and was designed to have a relatively weak (albeit not so much anymore) federal government and grant more power to the states for home rule. States do not have to grant that same right to their own municipalities.
April 25, 20187 yr There is a big difference between the 2. Federal law is set up as a Constitutional Republic guaranteeing states rights and was designed to have a relatively weak (albeit not so much anymore) federal government and grant more power to the states for home rule. States do not have to grant that same right to their own municipalities. But the point is still valid. Different laws in different states make it more difficult to do business.
April 25, 20187 yr Think about how much worse it would be with strong townships. Ours are mid-grade. I think I said this on a different thread, but I still don't even have that much grasp of what a township in Ohio actually does. Like, if I live in a township and vote for township trustee, what exactly am I voting on? Road maintenance, cemeteries, parks, police/fire. Some townships, such as Madison in Franklin County, get subsided by the towns in their borders. About 20 years ago, Circleville left Circleville Township and started its own township (Yamrick) presumably in order to avoid subsidizing the large, rural township.
August 31, 20195 yr Re the opioid federal cases, Yost wants to block it so he can take all the money and then give a little to the cities, when the state itself bears little of the costs of the opioid epidemic. Police, EMS, coroner costs, etc are all local and the state has cut billions from the cities over the past ten years. Yost is violating home rule Its also illegal. And this is our state attorney? And he's being clever trying to create a law that says the state has exclusive authority for any suit that involves at least five counties--that's 5.6% of the state--that's supposed to be reasonable? There any many cases that cities would lose the ability to fight for themselves on. And the state may not wish to file a suit, if say, an industry is close ally or funder for Yost in the future. In which case, cities would have no recourse. This is really serious. He's a filed a motion in federal court already. Can anyone just write a counter argument to the Federal appeals court who will hear this? This is outrageous. Is he impeachable for this? There is precedent in Ohio remove an AG. From 2008, for reference: https://tucson.com/news/national/dems-move-to-impeach-embattled-ohio-attorney-general/article_c8ed810a-b3af-5c4e-b405-bc1e3dde817c.html.
September 24, 20195 yr Ohio Supreme Court overturns Cleveland’s Fannie Lewis law, siding with state legislature https://www.cleveland.com/open/2019/09/ohio-supreme-court-overturns-clevelands-fannie-lewis-law-siding-with-state-legislature.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 12, 20195 yr Ohio House passes ban on local plastic bag bans https://614now.com/2019/news/new-bill-would-prevent-local-bans-on-plastic-bags The Ohio House even has a federalism committee. Not sure why, because they cannot control what the federal government does to/for Ohio. But they don't want the feds telling Ohio what to do. But it's OK for the state to tell local governments what to do. Just shut up and die... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 12, 20195 yr We're seriously paying these people to enact statewide bans on local plastic bag bans.
December 12, 20195 yr 15 minutes ago, KJP said: Ohio House passes ban on local plastic bag bans https://614now.com/2019/news/new-bill-would-prevent-local-bans-on-plastic-bags The Ohio House even has a federalism committee. Not sure why, because they cannot control what the federal government does to/for Ohio. But they don't want the feds telling Ohio what to do. But it's OK for the state to tell local governments what to do. Just shut up and die... Opponents of the legislation believe business owners at the community level should have the right to decide for themselves whether to implement a ban or a fee, though. Wait, I'm confused. This bill forbids private business owners from not using plastic bags? That cannot be possible.
December 12, 20195 yr Dewine is trying to slow all this down. Kasich's admin did a ton of work that really harmed home rule standards and curtailed power to municipalities. Dewine wants to proceed cautiously and work to try and restore some of the home rule back to the local municipalities. Now the caveat is that if the locales go too progressive, I am sure Dewine will not stand in the way of the state coming in and stopping things
December 13, 20195 yr Question, do Ohio's rural legislators want to lose their golden goose when the biggest cities split off because they are getting sick and tired of Ohio's antics? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 13, 20195 yr 20 hours ago, surfohio said: Opponents of the legislation believe business owners at the community level should have the right to decide for themselves whether to implement a ban or a fee, though. Wait, I'm confused. This bill forbids private business owners from not using plastic bags? That cannot be possible. I think "Business owners" in that quote should be "elected officials?" Obviously business owners can decide for themselves if they want to use plastic bags or not. What this "ban" effectively does is preserve the right of the business owner to make that decision for themselves - it prevents the government (state or local) from taking that right away.
December 13, 20195 yr 4 hours ago, Ram23 said: I think "Business owners" in that quote should be "elected officials?" Obviously business owners can decide for themselves if they want to use plastic bags or not. That sounds a lot more reasonable. In CA (at least in San Diego) the "ban" is really just a 10 cent charge per plastic bag. Anyhow, it's worked. You almost never see plastic bags blowing all over the place any more.
January 1, 20205 yr Not sure whatever cities are not postponing the plastic bag ban, but I was at the Giant Eagle in Rocky River tonight and it’s definitely going into effect tomorrow here. i brought my reusable bags (that I learned to use in Portland who had a similar law). And the cashier said “you’re ahead of the game.” Confused since I thought the ban was being postponed, she said this giant eagle location is going paper bag only tomorrow (and they’ll be charging 10 cents a bag) So what cities is Cuyahoga County are going live tomorrow? Edited January 1, 20205 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
