June 15, 20232 yr ^that building doesn't seem large enough for a food related use. I always thought the "4292" thing next door would make a great restaurant with space for a nice patio out front.
June 15, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, originaljbw said: ^that building doesn't seem large enough for a food related use. I always thought the "4292" thing next door would make a great restaurant with space for a nice patio out front. Definitely a hidden and underutilized space. From what I heard it used to be a porno theater haha fun times fun times.
June 15, 20232 yr Just now, GISguy said: Definitely a hidden and underutilized space. From what I heard it used to be a porno theater haha fun times fun times. "From what I heard..."
June 15, 20231 yr 8 hours ago, GISguy said: Definitely a hidden and underutilized space. From what I heard it used to be a porno theater haha fun times fun times. I assume that was after Cleveland Public Library moved out of there in the late 1970s to its then-new location across the street. ;)
June 16, 20231 yr 15 hours ago, skorasaurus said: I assume that was after Cleveland Public Library moved out of there in the late 1970s to its then-new location across the street. ;) Awe man you're right, maybe(?) they moved in after or I'm completely making it up...either way there's some cool photos in CPL's digital gallery. Let me try and dig some up... Edited June 16, 20231 yr by GISguy added pics
August 10, 20231 yr Old Brooklyn Lofts gets early OK By Ken Prendergast / August 10, 2023 A Parma real estate investor and his development team won conceptual approval yesterday from a local design review panel to convert the vacant, century-old Independent Order of Odd Fellows Temple at 3409 Broadview Rd. in the heart of Cleveland’s Old Brooklyn neighborhood into loft-style apartments. The team will then refine their plans into more detail schematic designs for review by the Planning Commission’s citywide design-review committee prior to construction. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/08/10/old-brooklyn-lofts-gets-early-ok/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 11, 20231 yr On 5/19/2023 at 10:12 AM, NR said: Anyone know what’s going on at the corner of W.56th and Memphis? There’s construction fencing up and a backhoe on site btw this is how it’s decided where to put dollar generals — 🙀😂
September 2, 20231 yr Seeds & Sprouts 32 – Glenville library turns page, Cliff Hangers to Clifton, Microcosm Publishing expands, PB Express’ Big Creek container yard By Ken Prendergast / September 2, 2023 PB Express plans Big Creek container yard Intermodal freight transportation company PB Express of Rocky River plans to invest about $1.8 million to build a shipping container staging and transition facility at 3800 Valley Rd. in Cleveland’s Old Brooklyn neighborhood. A new office and service building measuring 5,544 square feet plus a container transfer and storage yard are proposed to be built on the site of a vacant warehouse, according to plans submitted to the city. There are several other trucking firms and container/trailer storage yards nearby, as well. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/09/02/seeds-sprouts-32-glenville-library-turns-page-cliff-hangers-to-clifton-microcosm-publishing-expands-pb-express-big-creek-container-yard/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 12, 20231 yr Memphis and Pearl new construction and rehab coming along: Memphis & Pearl Mixed-Use Project Receives Funding Boost From Cleveland City Council | Cleveland News | Cleveland | Cleveland Scene (clevescene.com) Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
October 12, 20231 yr 2 minutes ago, Dougal said: Memphis and Pearl new construction and rehab coming along: Memphis & Pearl Mixed-Use Project Receives Funding Boost From Cleveland City Council | Cleveland News | Cleveland | Cleveland Scene (clevescene.com) Im really excited for this project. Blending new construction and preservation is a win-win for the neighborhood. OB is on the come up!
October 24, 20231 yr https://thelandcle.org/stories/op-ed-how-old-brooklyn-can-transform-a-historic-church-into-a-mixed-use-project-that-benefits-the-whole-community/?fbclid=IwAR3tMQnci3SwmUHBGC3DPq6OSpZgjMoetOT8TJv4vZ6SWRI6zlcgRZxzc7A_aem_AThaM6orzXHvYOKzhXaeNRFdwqN7nFwLjz5M5jTaB36Z41UE1yvOaZe4tsuLDkLssWg&mibextid=2JQ9oc
October 24, 20231 yr ^ wow that is nice. a little patience here as they, meaning the community, developers and the city, are getting close — so far its all about preservation of the church, conversion to residential and no to another big brewery in there. this is real deal community in action work and its exciting to see, it should be a model for all neighborhoods — 👍
October 25, 20231 yr As someone who's biked to beachland/grog from OB, it'd be nice to have a lil venue in here or something for music. I know we wouldn't be getting those type of acts/venue but having something small to coexist with like Little Rose would be great.
October 26, 20231 yr Demo permit filed for 3784 Pearl/W 25th St. This is a one story retail strip, actually fairly decent building with good street presence. Does anybody know if this is part of the developer of the Lofts on Pearl's plans?
November 28, 20231 yr 2011 Broadview, 2 rehabbed 3-bedroom units above and commercial below. Developer hopes to have it on the market by summer. The property includes an adjacent lot, which looks like blacktop parking here. Not sure what he intends to do with that part of the property. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
November 28, 20231 yr On 10/26/2023 at 10:08 AM, noname said: Demo permit filed for 3784 Pearl/W 25th St. This is a one story retail strip, actually fairly decent building with good street presence. Does anybody know if this is part of the developer of the Lofts on Pearl's plans? Yeah, I thought that building was gonna be part of the renovation. Hopefully not another parking lot in its place.
November 28, 20231 yr 4 hours ago, Dougal said: 2011 Broadview Blvd, 2 rehabbed 3-bedroom units above and commercial below. Developer hopes to have it on the market by summer. The property includes an adjacent lot, which looks like blacktop parking here. Not sure what he intends to do with that part of the property. Was a bar (The Wedge Inn) for a long time: from at least the 1980s to the early-mid 2000s.; (iirc, it was an afterhours/private club for a brief time after that... ground floor was vacant since then. no idea if the bar equipment has been ripped out. Edited November 28, 20231 yr by skorasaurus clarification
November 29, 20231 yr 8 hours ago, skorasaurus said: Was a bar (The Wedge Inn) for a long time: from at least the 1980s to the early-mid 2000s.; (iirc, it was an afterhours/private club for a brief time after that... ground floor was vacant since then. no idea if the bar equipment has been ripped out. The term sheet just says commercial use is planned for the first floor; in the property description it says six bedrooms on the second floor. Sounds as if the place may have had an exciting past. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
December 20, 20231 yr On 10/26/2023 at 10:08 AM, noname said: Demo permit filed for 3784 Pearl/W 25th St. This is a one story retail strip, actually fairly decent building with good street presence. Does anybody know if this is part of the developer of the Lofts on Pearl's plans? Design package for this project is online from Landmark's agenda couple weeks ago.
December 20, 20231 yr ^I have a vague recollection of some significant pushback at Landmarks in connection with the townhomes but I cannot recall exactly what the problem was. Pushback might have been from staff but again cannot remember why.
December 20, 20231 yr 13 hours ago, Htsguy said: ^I have a vague recollection of some significant pushback at Landmarks in connection with the townhomes but I cannot recall exactly what the problem was. Pushback might have been from staff but again cannot remember why. It's in an historic district. Landmarks didn't want to see 100-year-old houses demolished even though they're dumps. The developer laughs at America's sense of history because he lived in a 1,000-year-old castle when he was a kid in Greece. Wonder if Greece's landmarks commission complained because it was built near structures that were already 1,500 years old? I'm writing the article about the Lofts on the Pearl today and planned to write about the second phase in a week or so. Hard news articles are tough to come by at this time of the year. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 20, 20231 yr Here's the first article..... Brooklyn Masonic Hall gets new lease on life By Ken Prendergast / December 20, 2023 A Masonic rehabilitation has a different meaning in Cleveland’s Brooklyn Centre neighborhood these days. At 3804 Pearl Rd., it means the renovation and repurposing of a 25,536-square-foot Brooklyn Masonic Temple into 26 market-rate apartments over two ground-floor commercial spaces bracketing the building’s terrazzo-, marble- and wood-laden lobby. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/12/20/brooklyn-masonic-hall-gets-new-lease-on-life/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 20, 20231 yr Respect to any developer who restores an old building rather than tearing it down in favor of a new build.
January 10, 20241 yr I'll get some day shots of the lofts, but they recently lit up the entrance (and there's a new ornamental (but functional!) gate on the back where the parking is Also, this was taken last Friday, the middle building was down by Sunday (where the fencing is):
January 12, 20241 yr Brooklyn Centre’s Pearls of development By Ken Prendergast / January 11, 2024 For real estate investor Kostas Almiroudis, rebuilding one historic building on Pearl Road in Cleveland’s Brooklyn Centre wasn’t enough of a labor of love and pain for him. Across a side street, he’s seeking to embark on an even more ambitious project — renovate another mixed-use building, build a new one and construct six townhomes behind them. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/01/11/brooklyn-centres-pearls-of-development/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 12, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, KJP said: Brooklyn Centre’s Pearls of development By Ken Prendergast / January 11, 2024 For real estate investor Kostas Almiroudis, rebuilding one historic building on Pearl Road in Cleveland’s Brooklyn Centre wasn’t enough of a labor of love and pain for him. Across a side street, he’s seeking to embark on an even more ambitious project — renovate another mixed-use building, build a new one and construct six townhomes behind them. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/01/11/brooklyn-centres-pearls-of-development/ After this can we get him to tear down the Family Dollar at Pearl and Broadview and build something up to the curb? This intersection has always been one of my favorite little ones in Cleveland.
February 22, 20241 yr Seeds & Sprouts 34 – McKinsey moving atop Key, Dunham Tavern adding green infrastructure, Brooklyn Polish hall to host Encompass Health, Nia’s Cafe to open on Kinsman By Ken Prendergast / February 22, 2024 Brooklyn Polish hall to host Encompass Health A nationwide health-care provider is planning to establish its first Northern Ohio location at the former Brooklyn Polish American Home, 4737 Pearl Rd., in Cleveland’s Old Brooklyn neighborhood. Built in 1930, the old fraternal hall is also planned to have a space provided for a future coffee shop on the lower level while the second floor will continue to serve as an AmPol Club & Halls event center for the time being. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/02/22/seeds-sprouts-34-mckinsey-moving-atop-key-dunham-tavern-adding-green-infrastructure-brooklyn-polish-hall-to-host-encompass-health-nias-cafe-to-open-on-kinsman/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 17, 20241 yr Flats On Pearl OK’d, Row On Garden tabled By Ken Prendergast / March 17, 2024 A next step for developer Kostas Almiroudis went forward when the Cleveland Landmarks Commission approved plans for the mixed-use Flats On Pearl. But the commission didn’t take as many steps forward as Almiroudis wanted, in requesting the demolition of four neighboring, decayed houses and a small townhouse development that would replace them. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/03/17/flats-on-pearl-okd-row-on-garden-tabled/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 17, 20241 yr OB /BC really is looking like the next hot neighborhood in CLE. Let’s hope these investments come to life. Add in the BRT work RTA is doing and this could be great for bringing back this neighborhood to be a mixed use and walkable place.
March 17, 20241 yr Buildings don't have to reinvent the wheel and be the architectural marvels, simply fitting in with your surroundings can do wonders for a project. This won't win any design awards but I love how well it fits into the neighborhood.
March 18, 20241 yr 23 hours ago, noname said: OB /BC really is looking like the next hot neighborhood in CLE. Let’s hope these investments come to life. Add in the BRT work RTA is doing and this could be great for bringing back this neighborhood to be a mixed use and walkable place. If you look at property values in Old Brooklyn ~2018/9 to now it's safe to say it's already there. We're in the midst of getting our second coffee shop in the South Hills, the CDC working to develop the corner of Pearl and Memphis is also going to be transformative. The (almost formerly) poorest streets in the neighborhood exist near the best bones in the hood (Pearl/Broadview-South Brooklyn 'downtown'), I say almost formerly (weird phrasing) because the flippers are ROLLING on some of these streets (woo millennial grey!). We've also got what feels like 39 art galleries on Broadview. It'd be nice if these two developments in Brooklyn Centre had at least a local coffee shop or something - there aren't many full service amenities in BC, great housing stock in this little pocket off Pearl, but not a whole lot to do.
April 30, 20241 yr PearlBrook’s ex-Peaches/Federal store to become RISE Dispensary By Ken Prendergast / April 30, 2024 Here comes another change to the PearlBrook Shopping Center at the northwest corner of Pearl and Brookpark roads in Cleveland’s Old Brooklyn neighborhood. Plans were submitted to the city last week for a new RISE Dispensary of medical cannabis to be located in a building at 5100 Pearl Rd. that was built for a Federal Department Store and later became a Peaches Records & Tapes store. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/04/30/pearlbrooks-ex-peaches-federal-store-to-become-rise-dispensary/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 25, 2024Jul 25 I forgot to mention that I was in Old Brooklyn one week ago today and saw a geotech truck drilling at this site: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/12/21/old-brooklyn-development-plan-wins-support/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 25, 2024Jul 25 With the CVS closed, that intersection could become really neat in the next few years.
July 27, 2024Jul 27 On 7/25/2024 at 9:51 AM, KJP said: I forgot to mention that I was in Old Brooklyn one week ago today and saw a geotech truck drilling at this site: https://neo-trans.blog/2022/12/21/old-brooklyn-development-plan-wins-support/ Same type of truck was drilling in the parking lot at the Cuyahoga County Welcome Center at Memphis/Fulton earlier this week as well.
August 10, 2024Aug 10 This community is a beneficiary of the state's Brownfield grants "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 1, 2024Nov 1 Stanford Townhomes received final approval at todays CPC meeting. 6 Townhome unit development just west of Pearl across from Metro. The project is on a vacant lot that was once the site of a failed duplex development that stalled sometime before the great recession.
November 1, 2024Nov 1 13 minutes ago, NorthShore647 said: The project is on a vacant lot that was once the site of a failed duplex development that stalled sometime before the great recession. As a newer (last 8 years) OB resident, I never knew. Wow! https://maps.app.goo.gl/HZkwwvM9MWNomqgr9
November 2, 2024Nov 2 On 11/1/2024 at 10:42 AM, NorthShore647 said: Housing like this makes me probably want to kill my neighbors, it's nothing better than an apartment. I don't see how this layout is desirable other than whoever lives in it can play make believe that they live in something that looks like a house. Stuff like this is good on college campuses and geographically challenged places, not in open suburbs. On the other hand, glad it takes up empty parcels rather than hankering for demo. Edited November 2, 2024Nov 2 by tastybunns I wont actually kill my neighbors
November 2, 2024Nov 2 43 minutes ago, tastybunns said: Housing like this makes me probably want to kill my neighbors, it's nothing better than an apartment. I don't see how this layout is desirable other than whoever lives in it can play make believe that they live in something that looks like a house. Stuff like this is good on college campuses and geographically challenged places, not in open suburbs. On the other hand, glad it takes up empty parcels rather than hankering for demo. Bro what?
November 2, 2024Nov 2 33 minutes ago, tastybunns said: Housing like this makes me probably want to kill my neighbors, it's nothing better than an apartment. I don't see how this layout is desirable other than whoever lives in it can play make believe that they live in something that looks like a house. Stuff like this is good on college campuses and geographically challenged places, not in open suburbs. On the other hand, glad it takes up empty parcels rather than hankering for demo. You're entitled to your opinion, but why? These look like the sort of rowhouses common in Europe, just with a more American aesthetic. To my mind, these are basically condos, but stacked horizontally instead of vertically. No real back yard, but the postage stamp front yard, might make a big difference to a dog owner.
November 2, 2024Nov 2 The reasoning behind my opinion here, even though they're townhomes/condos, you still share a wall and maybe 2. I know it reaches some sort of audience, and I'm glad it takes empty land, however building something cookie cutter, and something that's there to merely improve density will always be a big turnoff to me. I hate cookie cutter, i feel it takes away from a neighborhoods' charm. Call me a NIMBY all you want, but unless you don't care about privacy or not having to care for a yard, then this is for you. I feel this would be marketed for higher incomes as well, but probably wouldn't reach their target for occupancy. It's a lower income style of living which I'm not opposed to, I myself am lower income, but I still value my privacy and own my home. The American lifestyle is normally built around financial independence and the desire to own the land you live on or do business. This ain't it chief.
November 2, 2024Nov 2 2 hours ago, tastybunns said: Housing like this makes me probably want to kill my neighbors, it's nothing better than an apartment. I don't see how this layout is desirable other than whoever lives in it can play make believe that they live in something that looks like a house. Stuff like this is good on college campuses and geographically challenged places, not in open suburbs. On the other hand, glad it takes up empty parcels rather than hankering for demo. 1. Clearly this type of housing isn't for you, nothing wrong with having preferences. In some sense these make detached homes more affordable by offering an alternative (reducing excess demand) 2. They look like houses because they are houses. Townhouses are one of two categories of houses (detached vs. attached), it's just the case that one type is predominant in Cleveland. Many cities including Philly, Pittsburgh, San Francisco, and even rural towns in PA are full of row homes and it seems extreme to think those thousands of homeowners are just "playing make believe." 3. We have cities because humans built cities. We have open suburbs because we built open suburbs. NIMBYism aims to keep things the way they are, failing to consider that the way things are exists precisely because we changed the way things were before. 4. Townhomes are a lower cost style of living, not inherently a lower income style of living. You may find that decreasing costs actually increases financial independence. Many find this a comfortable middle ground as opposed to an apartment since they can still be sold to recover costs. And of course, as you said some people don't care about privacy as much or don't want to care for a lawn. Increasing diversity of housing stock increases freedom of choice. Edited November 2, 2024Nov 2 by sonisharri
November 3, 2024Nov 3 15 hours ago, tastybunns said: The reasoning behind my opinion here, even though they're townhomes/condos, you still share a wall and maybe 2. I know it reaches some sort of audience, and I'm glad it takes empty land, however building something cookie cutter, and something that's there to merely improve density will always be a big turnoff to me. I hate cookie cutter, i feel it takes away from a neighborhoods' charm. Call me a NIMBY all you want, but unless you don't care about privacy or not having to care for a yard, then this is for you. I feel this would be marketed for higher incomes as well, but probably wouldn't reach their target for occupancy. It's a lower income style of living which I'm not opposed to, I myself am lower income, but I still value my privacy and own my home. The American lifestyle is normally built around financial independence and the desire to own the land you live on or do business. This ain't it chief. YOU’RE BANNED FROM PHILLY BRO!!! 😂😉🦃
November 3, 2024Nov 3 4 minutes ago, mrnyc said: YOU’RE BANNED FROM PHILLY BRO!!! 😂😉🦃 philly aint cleveland, but hey i'll get a cheesesteak anytime
November 3, 2024Nov 3 my man can't wrap his head around not everyone wanting a single family home with a huge yard and white picket fence
November 3, 2024Nov 3 To be fair, they are ugly as s**t. Philly and Baltimore rowhouses these are not.
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