You guys are right, nothing good is happening in Cleveland..  :roll: :roll:

 

A key in today's revival, he writes, is the growth of Cleveland's life sciences economy. The region "has the largest concentration (14.5%) of health science workers out of the top 50 biggest labor markets in the nation, just ahead of Boston," Piiparinen writes. "That's because Cleveland is a node in the globalizing life science economy.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170201/BLOGS03/170209984/cleveland-has-had-comebacks-before-can-this-one-stick

 

That's not what we are saying. There are good things happening in Cleveland, yet there are cities with a similar sized metro, like Baltimore, which are transforming their downtown and surrounding neighborhoods over the last 20 years in a way Cleveland has not. Yes, crime is worse in Baltimore yet it has managed to get developers and lenders to build more new projects in the last decade than Cleveland has seen in at least the last three. Baltimore is way past apartment conversions of empty office space at this point. In fact developers are building mid-sized office buildings beyond their downtown while apartments keep going up.

 

I don't think demanding better should be looked down upon. Your stats are great but the biggest stat is that Cleveland continues to shrink while almost every top 50 US city is stable or growing. Cleveland continues to hang out at the bottom with Detroit. Maybe Mayor Jackson shouldn't shoulder all the blame but the idea that Cleveland has transformed itself into something better under his reign is still open for debate.

You guys are right, nothing good is happening in Cleveland..  :roll: :roll:

 

A key in today's revival, he writes, is the growth of Cleveland's life sciences economy. The region "has the largest concentration (14.5%) of health science workers out of the top 50 biggest labor markets in the nation, just ahead of Boston," Piiparinen writes. "That's because Cleveland is a node in the globalizing life science economy.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170201/BLOGS03/170209984/cleveland-has-had-comebacks-before-can-this-one-stick

 

That's not what we are saying. There are good things happening in Cleveland, yet there are cities with a similar sized metro, like Baltimore, which are transforming their downtown and surrounding neighborhoods over the last 20 years in a way Cleveland has not. Yes, crime is worse in Baltimore yet it has managed to get developers and lenders to build more new projects in the last decade than Cleveland has seen in at least the last three. Baltimore is way past apartment conversions of empty office space at this point. In fact developers are building mid-sized office buildings beyond their downtown while apartments keep going up.

 

I don't think demanding better should be looked down upon. Your stats are great but the biggest stat is that Cleveland continues to shrink while almost every top 50 US city is stable or growing. Cleveland continues to hang out at the bottom with Detroit. Maybe Mayor Jackson shouldn't shoulder all the blame but the idea that Cleveland has transformed itself into something better under his reign is still open for debate.

 

Precisely.  When even on the surface some things seem to be happening, if you continue to fall to the bottom in most every economic indicator, and you continue to be at the bottom (with sometimes the exception of Detroit), then that is a problem.  When you have a mayor that is happy with the status quo because Cleveland isn't Detroit, and doesn't aspire for anything better because he believes "things could be worse" then we need new leadership.   

 

 

 

350 more jobs coming to the city.

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- For the first time since before the recession, the city of Cleveland will be able to balance its budget without having to carry money over from the previous year, thanks to a voter-approved city income tax increase that is expected to draw an additional $83.5 million into the city's general fund annually.

 

Also, the city expects to hire as many as 350 new employees this year to deliver enhanced services, ranging from policing to sweeping the city's streets.  During an interview Wednesday with cleveland.com reporters and editors, Mayor Frank Jackson laid out his proposed 2017 budget before he presents the plan to City Council during a series of hearings later this month.

 

Unlike Jackson's budget presentations of years past -- which focused on the struggle to operate within the city's means and to protect jobs, despite deep cuts in state funding for local municipalities - this year, the mayor led with good news.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/02/cleveland_mayor_frank_jacksons_2.html

^I believe Ronayne's contract at UCI is up this year. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran. Nina would definitely have a good chance of winning if she decided to run as well.

 

She might stand a chance if enough people voted early and often.

 

Chris Ronayne, absolutely.  He's been a success in the 2 public positions he's held -- it was he, as Jane Campbell's planning director, who oversaw one of her few successes: Fairmount/Wolstein commitment to FEB toward the end of Jane's tenure in 2005 (it took 8 years, lawsuits, financing hurdles and even threatened eminent domain for FEB to materialize, but it was more than worth the wait)... And we don't even have to talk about how Ronayne transformed UC's Euclid/Mayfield rundown retail district of extensive surface parking into the bustling/walkable/growing Uptown urban paradise of today -- and before Ronayne, RTA had been hinting of closing its lightly-used E. 120 Red Line station, but Chris got parties together to encourage development and RTA to move the thing to Mayfield/Little Italy -- a seemingly small feat that CTS/RTA couldn't pull off for 60 years!-- that's worked out pretty well, I think; in less than 2 years, it's even spawning rare Cleveland TOD.

 

Nina Turner?  Love her politics, her passion and her grass-roots cultivation, but I'm not as sure as her fitness for the mayor's job.  She's obviously bright woman and I'm certainly not saying she can't do the job, but being a state senator does not pose near the challenges and headaches of running a major city, especially one with the obstacles (poverty, unemployment, poor schools, aging infrastructure, dilapidated housing, mass transit cuts/poor service, crime, etc, etc) facing Cleveland.  Plus, as has been alluded to, Turner seems to be looking for a larger, national platform.  She's obviously become a national figure via MSNBC and other media outlets that have made her a power broker in progressive politics.  I think her bolting Hillary for Bernie and having Jill Stein court her for veep (causing the Dems from barring her from the podium at the DNC) have all been forgiven.

There are good things happening in Cleveland, yet there are cities with a similar sized metro, like Baltimore, which are transforming their downtown and surrounding neighborhoods over the last 20 years in a way Cleveland has not.

 

Not really a fair comparison. Baltimore has the good fortune to be in a "one-city" state. Maryland, i.e. the Washington suburbs, subsidizes everything that happens in Baltimore.  In addition, MAryland had a senator (Barbara Milkuski) who didn't waste time on "national issues" she worked very successfully and non-stop for Baltimore and surrounding jurisdictions, moving thousands of federal jobs to the area.

 

Cleveland, on the other hand, is in competition with at least at least two other peer cities for Ohio's attention (and cash) and the whole state has too many folks in DC who have forgotten who elected them. (Not you, Marci.) Cleveland needs to make a better case for itself in Columbus as well as DC. 

You guys are right, nothing good is happening in Cleveland..  :roll: :roll:

 

A key in today's revival, he writes, is the growth of Cleveland's life sciences economy. The region "has the largest concentration (14.5%) of health science workers out of the top 50 biggest labor markets in the nation, just ahead of Boston," Piiparinen writes. "That's because Cleveland is a node in the globalizing life science economy.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170201/BLOGS03/170209984/cleveland-has-had-comebacks-before-can-this-one-stick

 

That's not what we are saying. There are good things happening in Cleveland, yet there are cities with a similar sized metro, like Baltimore, which are transforming their downtown and surrounding neighborhoods over the last 20 years in a way Cleveland has not. Yes, crime is worse in Baltimore yet it has managed to get developers and lenders to build more new projects in the last decade than Cleveland has seen in at least the last three. Baltimore is way past apartment conversions of empty office space at this point. In fact developers are building mid-sized office buildings beyond their downtown while apartments keep going up.

 

I don't think demanding better should be looked down upon. Your stats are great but the biggest stat is that Cleveland continues to shrink while almost every top 50 US city is stable or growing. Cleveland continues to hang out at the bottom with Detroit. Maybe Mayor Jackson shouldn't shoulder all the blame but the idea that Cleveland has transformed itself into something better under his reign is still open for debate.

 

They sure haven't built much in downtown Baltimore in the last 10yrs to backup up your claims.  They've added a hotel and an office building, just like Cleveland has done. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Baltimore

My short list would be the seven councilmen who voted against the supremely ill advised dirt bike track.  One of them, Mike Polensek, would be highly unlikely to run for numerous reasons.  It will be interesting to see who he endorses though, especially if both Jeff Johnson and Zack Reed run.  The three of them have been allies on Council.

 

Nina Turner is a big no way:  she’s going to be seen as strictly an identity politics candidate and that’s the last thing Cleveland needs right now.  We need someone who can work with the business community and is going to be seen as reasonable by suburbanites and the state GOP.  Her “Sheila Jackson Lee Moment” that I alluded to earlier will be dragged up and hurt her there.

 

My personal frontrunners are Johnson or Reed, both of whom are adept and even comfortable with working with a wide variety of people including those with different worldviews.  I’d be particularly interested in how they would deal with the gang issue, especially with a war taking place.  All the talk about employment opportunities is well and good, but let’s be real no one is going to hire HFs or LAs to do anything constructive, nor would most of them be interested.

350 more jobs coming to the city.

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- For the first time since before the recession, the city of Cleveland will be able to balance its budget without having to carry money over from the previous year, thanks to a voter-approved city income tax increase that is expected to draw an additional $83.5 million into the city's general fund annually.

 

Also, the city expects to hire as many as 350 new employees this year to deliver enhanced services, ranging from policing to sweeping the city's streets.  During an interview Wednesday with cleveland.com reporters and editors, Mayor Frank Jackson laid out his proposed 2017 budget before he presents the plan to City Council during a series of hearings later this month.

 

Unlike Jackson's budget presentations of years past -- which focused on the struggle to operate within the city's means and to protect jobs, despite deep cuts in state funding for local municipalities - this year, the mayor led with good news.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/02/cleveland_mayor_frank_jacksons_2.html

 

I still think they need to make the current employees actually do their jobs.  I have a couple friends that work for the city and they say the laziness and corruption is beyond comparison. 

You guys are right, nothing good is happening in Cleveland..  :roll: :roll:

 

A key in today's revival, he writes, is the growth of Cleveland's life sciences economy. The region "has the largest concentration (14.5%) of health science workers out of the top 50 biggest labor markets in the nation, just ahead of Boston," Piiparinen writes. "That's because Cleveland is a node in the globalizing life science economy.

 

http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170201/BLOGS03/170209984/cleveland-has-had-comebacks-before-can-this-one-stick

 

That's not what we are saying. There are good things happening in Cleveland, yet there are cities with a similar sized metro, like Baltimore, which are transforming their downtown and surrounding neighborhoods over the last 20 years in a way Cleveland has not. Yes, crime is worse in Baltimore yet it has managed to get developers and lenders to build more new projects in the last decade than Cleveland has seen in at least the last three. Baltimore is way past apartment conversions of empty office space at this point. In fact developers are building mid-sized office buildings beyond their downtown while apartments keep going up.

 

I don't think demanding better should be looked down upon. Your stats are great but the biggest stat is that Cleveland continues to shrink while almost every top 50 US city is stable or growing. Cleveland continues to hang out at the bottom with Detroit. Maybe Mayor Jackson shouldn't shoulder all the blame but the idea that Cleveland has transformed itself into something better under his reign is still open for debate.

 

They sure haven't built much in downtown Baltimore in the last 10yrs to backup up your claims.  They've added a hotel and an office building, just like Cleveland has done. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Baltimore

 

All of baltimores progress has been solely on the harbor, while neglecting things in other parts of the city.  The harbor areas are very nice, development in between downtown and fells has been incredible, but you are starting to see the developers in cleveland jump on similar opportunities.  Baltimore is hardly a model because of their neglected areas.  They are ahead of cleveland, but they started earlier

350 more jobs coming to the city.

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- For the first time since before the recession, the city of Cleveland will be able to balance its budget without having to carry money over from the previous year, thanks to a voter-approved city income tax increase that is expected to draw an additional $83.5 million into the city's general fund annually.

 

Also, the city expects to hire as many as 350 new employees this year to deliver enhanced services, ranging from policing to sweeping the city's streets.  During an interview Wednesday with cleveland.com reporters and editors, Mayor Frank Jackson laid out his proposed 2017 budget before he presents the plan to City Council during a series of hearings later this month.

 

Unlike Jackson's budget presentations of years past -- which focused on the struggle to operate within the city's means and to protect jobs, despite deep cuts in state funding for local municipalities - this year, the mayor led with good news.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/02/cleveland_mayor_frank_jacksons_2.html

 

I still think they need to make the current employees actually do their jobs.  I have a couple friends that work for the city and they say the laziness and corruption is beyond comparison. 

 

Almost half of the new ee's are going to the police, fire and EMS dept.  Are you saying that we do not need more of these positions?

350 more jobs coming to the city.

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- For the first time since before the recession, the city of Cleveland will be able to balance its budget without having to carry money over from the previous year, thanks to a voter-approved city income tax increase that is expected to draw an additional $83.5 million into the city's general fund annually.

 

Also, the city expects to hire as many as 350 new employees this year to deliver enhanced services, ranging from policing to sweeping the city's streets.  During an interview Wednesday with cleveland.com reporters and editors, Mayor Frank Jackson laid out his proposed 2017 budget before he presents the plan to City Council during a series of hearings later this month.

 

Unlike Jackson's budget presentations of years past -- which focused on the struggle to operate within the city's means and to protect jobs, despite deep cuts in state funding for local municipalities - this year, the mayor led with good news.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/02/cleveland_mayor_frank_jacksons_2.html

 

I still think they need to make the current employees actually do their jobs.  I have a couple friends that work for the city and they say the laziness and corruption is beyond comparison. 

 

Almost half of the new ee's are going to the police, fire and EMS dept.  Are you saying that we do not need more of these positions?

 

I fully support hiring more public safety.  My questions are in streets, recreation, etc where the employees work about 3 hours a day on average.

 

My personal frontrunners are Johnson or Reed, both of whom are adept and even comfortable with working with a wide variety of people including those with different worldviews. 

 

I'm interested in knowing if Johnson is truly sorry for his crimes, and not just for getting caught.

There are good things happening in Cleveland, yet there are cities with a similar sized metro, like Baltimore, which are transforming their downtown and surrounding neighborhoods over the last 20 years in a way Cleveland has not.

 

Not really a fair comparison. Baltimore has the good fortune to be in a "one-city" state. Maryland, i.e. the Washington suburbs, subsidizes everything that happens in Baltimore.  In addition, MAryland had a senator (Barbara Milkuski) who didn't waste time on "national issues" she worked very successfully and non-stop for Baltimore and surrounding jurisdictions, moving thousands of federal jobs to the area.

 

Cleveland, on the other hand, is in competition with at least at least two other peer cities for Ohio's attention (and cash) and the whole state has too many folks in DC who have forgotten who elected them. (Not you, Marci.) Cleveland needs to make a better case for itself in Columbus as well as DC. 

 

True enough but you also don't see those solo cities wasting their time and treasure on dirtbikes or vibrant greenspace.  They're focused on residents and businesses, and on new buildings to put them in.  Their priorities are identifiably urban.  They're making things happen while we make excuses. 

 

While Baltimore does have neglected areas, they're in no hurry to bulldoze those areas and replace them with half the density.  They realize their historic architecture and traditional urban form are more marketable than greenspace.  That is a policy question on which Jackson and Johnson differ.  Jackson wants everything torn down and has no vision for rebuilding.  He's hardly alone in that, so we need someone in charge who disagrees.  Cleveland's biggest challenge right now is self-destruction. 

Sorry, but you're clearly just making stuff up because it suits your opinion.  From http://www.baltimorehousing.org/vtov_demo

 

Major Blight Reduction Initiative

 

Baltimore City has a number of commitments to help grow Baltimore by 10,000 families over the next decade. One of those commitments is a pledge to demolish 4,000 vacant, blighted buildings over the next ten years, and create new green spaces in their place.

 

This long-awaited initiative will target some of Baltimores most deteriorated blocks, helping to protect neighborhood property values, reduce blight, address the public safety concerns that large numbers of vacant buildings cause, and build new green spaces that community members can enjoy.

 

Unfortunately, there are many blocks in Baltimore City that are largely bighted and where only a few residents remain. While the Blight Reduction Initiative is dedicating significant resources to blight elimination, there are still more requests for demolition, than there are resources. Generally, the sites identified below were chosen as a result of input from community leaders and residents. Maps of these proposed demolition sites are included below. Because blight is concentrated in row house communities, the few remaining residents are being offered relocation benefits in an effort to promote whole block solutions for impacted communities. Residents on the blocks below have been sent letters with more information about the proposed demolition and relocation benefits. In the few areas identified on the maps where isolated residents remain, Baltimore Housing is committed to working with those residents, offering them a substantial benefits package, and in many cases, helping them find new homes.

 

X[/member], this came out just yesterday:

 

Life, death and demolition

 

For more than a century, hundreds of people called this patch of East Baltimore home. Now the 900 block of North Bradford Street is about to be ripped down as a city with 17,000 boarded-up buildings lays waste to its blight and its history.

 

--

 

What I didn't realize was that those iconic Baltimore row houses, which I despise for their generic qualities and the lack of streetscaping and scale, were in fact built to be as generic and cheap as possible. The suburban tract housing of the early 20th century. The city has a massive surplus of those cheap rowhouses which are being salvaged and demolished in an expedited manner near up-and-coming areas, like John Hopkins.

 

My personal frontrunners are Johnson or Reed, both of whom are adept and even comfortable with working with a wide variety of people including those with different worldviews. 

 

I'm interested in knowing if Johnson is truly sorry for his crimes, and not just for getting caught.

Me too, the last I heard he believed he had been set up (not by the FBI but by rivals).  We've certainly learned there wasn't much unusual about what he did, it was par for the course in Cuyahoga County.

 

The fact that he got his law license and the ability to run for office reinstated is certainly unusual.

 

My personal frontrunners are Johnson or Reed, both of whom are adept and even comfortable with working with a wide variety of people including those with different worldviews. 

 

I'm interested in knowing if Johnson is truly sorry for his crimes, and not just for getting caught.

Me too, the last I heard he believed he had been set up (not by the FBI but by rivals).  We've certainly learned there wasn't much unusual about what he did, it was par for the course in Cuyahoga County.

 

The fact that he got his law license and the ability to run for office reinstated is certainly unusual.

 

Common, It's Politics! You know that I hope.

 

Still not a good choice for mayor IMO.

Sorry, but you're clearly just making stuff up because it suits your opinion.  From http://www.baltimorehousing.org/vtov_demo

 

I was unaware of that change.  Baltimore had been doing much better with preservation and redevelopment, but obviously they're now rolling down Vibrant Greenspace Boulevard at a brisk 35.

I just came to check this thread and had to scroll pretty far up to see why Baltimore housing was being discussed at such length in the Cleveland mayoral race thread....

 

Anyways, ICYMI, the mayor is finally on Twitter: @CleMayorJackson

 

Roldo has had some strong words about the mayor this week

http://havecoffeewillwrite.com/?p=54240

http://havecoffeewillwrite.com/?p=54303

I just came to check this thread and had to scroll pretty far up to see why Baltimore housing was being discussed at such length in the Cleveland mayoral race thread....

 

Anyways, ICYMI, the mayor is finally on Twitter: @CleMayorJackson

 

Roldo has had some strong words about the mayor this week

http://havecoffeewillwrite.com/?p=54240&cpage=1#comment-324182

http://havecoffeewillwrite.com/?p=54303

 

Thanks for posting TPH2.  While I don't agree with much or what Roldo says anymore (usually only tidbits as he generalizes to many things), this assessment I agree with for the most part but would have had to add a long list of other failures that his mediocrity has brought to the city.  The title I totally agree with, and have been using something very similar for him myself. 

 

JACKSON—FAILURE WHO OFFERS MORE OF SAME

Does anybody know who the other four people considering a run? (Jackson, Johnson, Chrostowski....)

 

 

Crain's editorial: Mayor for life?

 

Frank Jackson has been a solid, if uninspiring, mayor of Cleveland for nearly 12 years. He announced last week that he wants the job for an unprecedented fourth term — a prospect that doesn't alarm us, exactly, but one that nonetheless raises the question of whether it's time for a fresher perspective at the top of City Hall.

 

The mayor says there's still work to be done on the big issues that have been his focus during a life of public service: the health of the school system, the safety of city residents, the enhancement of services that improve quality of life, and the spreading of prosperity beyond downtown and into neighborhoods.

 

Any mayor who has been in office for three terms is going to have some successes and some setbacks on such broad performance measures, and Jackson is no exception.

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So far, seven people have pulled petitions to enter the mayoral race.

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http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20170205/VOICES01/170209918/crains-editorial-mayor-for-life#utm_medium=email&utm_source=ccl-morningroundup&utm_campaign=ccl-morningroundup-20170206&email_realestate

Does anybody know who the other four people considering a run? (Jackson, Johnson, Chrostowski....)

 

From Cle.com:

Brian S. Costa - A Cleveland man by the same name lists on his Facebook page that he is an officer with the Cleveland Metropolitan School District.

Angela Y. Davis - A Cleveland woman by the same name lists on her Facebook page that she works for the U.S. Postal Service.

Barbara A. DeBerry - A Cleveland-area woman named Barbara DeBerry lists on LinkedIn that she is founder incorporator and proposal writer for W.H. a. T

                                International Enterprises and a former election official with the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections.

Ja'Ovvoni Garrison - His Facebook page introduces him as a "Future Mayor for the City of Cleveland." Cleveland.com reported on Jan. 7, 2017 that Garrison is a       

                                former Slavic Village Development community organizer who is using his skateboarding expertise to attract grant money to provide free 

                                skateboards and lessons to low-income kids.

Renee Saunders - A Cleveland-area woman by the same name is listed on LinkedIn as a student at Cleveland State University.

Landry M. Simmons Jr. - A Landry M. Simmons lists himself on Facebook as a Strongsville resident and a sales consultant for Auto World USA.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/01/who_so_far_is_running_to_becom.html

^Thanks

Now Eric Brewer says he's running.

 

Just No.

 

Apparently Zack Reed is actually considering a run. Is anyone worthwhile actually going to announce a run? I'm not happy with any of the choices so far.

Now Eric Brewer says he's running.

 

Just No.

 

Don't know anything about him. Why is he bad?

^former Mayor of E. Cleveland prior to Norton.  Some photos of him in women's lingerie surfaced during an election campaign.

^former Mayor of E. Cleveland prior to Norton.  Some photos of him in women's lingerie surfaced during an election campaign.

I don't care if he grand marshalls the Pride Parade dressed as Carmen Miranda with a headdress including something other than bananas.

 

I do care that he made a long Facebook post that made excuses for ISIS burning alive a Jordanian pilot.

^ I also don't care about the cross dressing.  I wasn't aware of that other stuff though.  Despicable

^ I also don't care about the cross dressing.  I wasn't aware of that other stuff though.  Despicable

 

Not many people are.  I'm working on that.

Ja'Ovvoni Garrison has removed himself from the race.

 

https://twitter.com/JaOForMayor/status/849702154608791552/photo/1?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=JaOForMayor&utm_content=849702154608791552

Jeff Johnson is gonna run himself right out of the race.  I understand his philosophy on neglected neighborhoods and fixing the quality of life in them.  I largely agree.  But in doing so, you cant stiff arm growth, development and business.  Managing all of that and be a proponent of that is part of the job.  His twitter account is unleashing dismay for high density developments.  Jeff, you WANT high density developments.

Jeff Johnson is gonna run himself right out of the race.  I understand his philosophy on neglected neighborhoods and fixing the quality of life in them.  I largely agree.  But in doing so, you cant stiff arm growth, development and business.  Managing all of that and be a proponent of that is part of the job.  His twitter account is unleashing dismay for high density developments.  Jeff, you WANT high density developments.

 

In total agreement.

 

Am not a fan of Jeff Johnson for Mayor, but am when it comes to saving Cleveland's neighborhoods. His thoughts are wrong on downtown though. It's been said many times "where downtown goes, so goes the neighborhoods". Look at what's happening in Downtown and UC. There is definitely outgrowth into the neighborhoods that border downtown and UC.

 

There are great things happening in the neighborhoods, even outside of OC, DS, LI, and Tremont. But it is harder to see the affects when they are spread out over an area of 80 miles in the neighborhoods, vs approximately 2 miles for the downtown area. And the things happening in the neighborhoods are on a much smaller scale; not because the neighborhoods don't deserve the same scale of development as downtown, but because the demographics are not the same.

Jackson's new plan involves getting more retail into the neighborhoods, so points for him on that.

Jackson's new plan involves getting more retail into the neighborhoods, so points for him on that.

 

And don't forget dirt bike parks!

Jeff Johnson is gonna run himself right out of the race.  I understand his philosophy on neglected neighborhoods and fixing the quality of life in them.  I largely agree.  But in doing so, you cant stiff arm growth, development and business.  Managing all of that and be a proponent of that is part of the job.  His twitter account is unleashing dismay for high density developments.  Jeff, you WANT high density developments.

 

In total agreement.

 

Am not a fan of Jeff Johnson for Mayor, but am when it comes to saving Cleveland's neighborhoods. His thoughts are wrong on downtown though. It's been said many times "where downtown goes, so goes the neighborhoods". Look at what's happening in Downtown and UC. There is definitely outgrowth into the neighborhoods that border downtown and UC.

 

There are great things happening in the neighborhoods, even outside of OC, DS, LI, and Tremont. But it is harder to see the affects when they are spread out over an area of 80 miles in the neighborhoods, vs approximately 2 miles for the downtown area. And the things happening in the neighborhoods are on a much smaller scale; not because the neighborhoods don't deserve the same scale of development as downtown, but because the demographics are not the same.

 

And it is really hard to be able to tell if the city as a whole is really better off even with the popularity, investment and demographic shifts that Downtown as well as OC, DS, LI, and Tremont has seen as the majority of the other neighborhoods have gotten worse and continue to get worse as well as continue to lose population to the cheap suburbs.  This is where many cities murder rate at least goes down, but that also hasn't been the case.  In fact the murder rates keep going increasing in both these suburbs and the city of Cleveland. 

 

Of course Cleveland's buffoon Mayor, after all these years in office, has come out with a new neighborhood initiative that is on Cleveland.com.

 

I found a commenter on Cleveland.com that perfectly explained my longtime feelings for Mayor Jackson and the danger of when cities lack qualified leadership on so many levels. 

Yeah he's a nice guy but totally lacks the perspective to think that things should be any better than they are.     

 

"I like Frank Jackson. He is a nice man; a genuine man; a man not stealing from the people he represents; a man who really cares about people.  The problem I believe is his mentality.  He was raised in an awful neighborhood, lived in one his entire life and still does.  His frame of reference is different than the average person that lives in the city.  Homicide and crime are nothing new to him, nor are behaviors that are unacceptable to most, yet acceptable in certain neighborhoods as "normal" behavior.  He speaks of "culture" or "inclusion" as if everyone has a responsibility to accept abnormal behavior as normal. Most people just reach a level of intolerance and abandon the city, whether residents or businesses beset with this behavior.  And for those who think that "he should turn his police loose" on the bad guys you can forget it.  That ship has sailed. People can tolerate a lot, but when everyone wants them jailed for making a mistake they no longer put themselves in a position where mistakes can be made.  That will not change whether the mayor says get em or not."

 

Jackson's new plan involves getting more retail into the neighborhoods, so points for him on that.

 

And don't forget dirt bike parks!

 

That's still there, I'm just giving credit where credit is due.

Jackson's new plan involves getting more retail into the neighborhoods, so points for him on that.

 

And don't forget dirt bike parks!

 

That's still there, I'm just giving credit where credit is due.

 

I meant it sarcastically. It is a waste of tax payer money, and just one reason to not allow Jackson another term in office.

Jeff Johnson is gonna run himself right out of the race.  I understand his philosophy on neglected neighborhoods and fixing the quality of life in them.  I largely agree.  But in doing so, you cant stiff arm growth, development and business.  Managing all of that and be a proponent of that is part of the job.  His twitter account is unleashing dismay for high density developments.  Jeff, you WANT high density developments.

 

In total agreement.

 

Am not a fan of Jeff Johnson for Mayor, but am when it comes to saving Cleveland's neighborhoods. His thoughts are wrong on downtown though. It's been said many times "where downtown goes, so goes the neighborhoods". Look at what's happening in Downtown and UC. There is definitely outgrowth into the neighborhoods that border downtown and UC.

 

There are great things happening in the neighborhoods, even outside of OC, DS, LI, and Tremont. But it is harder to see the affects when they are spread out over an area of 80 miles in the neighborhoods, vs approximately 2 miles for the downtown area. And the things happening in the neighborhoods are on a much smaller scale; not because the neighborhoods don't deserve the same scale of development as downtown, but because the demographics are not the same.

 

And it is really hard to be able to tell if the city as a whole is really better off even with the popularity, investment and demographic shifts that Downtown as well as OC, DS, LI, and Tremont has seen as the majority of the other neighborhoods have gotten worse and continue to get worse as well as continue to lose population to the cheap suburbs.  This is where many cities murder rate at least goes down, but that also hasn't been the case.  In fact the murder rates keep going increasing in both these suburbs and the city of Cleveland. 

 

Of course Cleveland's buffoon Mayor, after all these years in office, has come out with a new neighborhood initiative that is on Cleveland.com.

 

I found a commenter on Cleveland.com that perfectly explained my longtime feelings for Mayor Jackson and the danger of when cities lack qualified leadership on so many levels. 

Yeah he's a nice guy but totally lacks the perspective to think that things should be any better than they are.     

 

"I like Frank Jackson. He is a nice man; a genuine man; a man not stealing from the people he represents; a man who really cares about people.  The problem I believe is his mentality.  He was raised in an awful neighborhood, lived in one his entire life and still does.  His frame of reference is different than the average person that lives in the city.  Homicide and crime are nothing new to him, nor are behaviors that are unacceptable to most, yet acceptable in certain neighborhoods as "normal" behavior.  He speaks of "culture" or "inclusion" as if everyone has a responsibility to accept abnormal behavior as normal. Most people just reach a level of intolerance and abandon the city, whether residents or businesses beset with this behavior.  And for those who think that "he should turn his police loose" on the bad guys you can forget it.  That ship has sailed. People can tolerate a lot, but when everyone wants them jailed for making a mistake they no longer put themselves in a position where mistakes can be made.  That will not change whether the mayor says get em or not."

 

 

Hes a pushover.  He has been here through some good stuff, but business-wise he gets walked all over.  I actually believe that is better than being a stubborn mule and having private sector leave, etc. like some previous people.  Yes i agree, the crime, while i think its on his radar, has never been a priority.  Glad there is finally an initiative out....ironically during an election campaign.  Crime is actually the hardest thing to fix.  I like the intervention at a young age to kids who are reaching a fork in the road between a good life and bad life.  Thats where we need to intervene.  Not sure we have the resources to all of a sudden pull adults out of the muck.  Jobs would sure help, but who knows.

I think the unfortunate reality is that pushing back against density will resonate with a lot of residents.

 

The TOD aspect is lost on people (money hungry developer not providing enough parking!!!), when they're market-rate you get gentrification rants (greedy politicians and developers want to gentrify our neighborhoods!!!), and when they're affordable like Aspen Place you still get pushback (Why should we be coddling these people when these could be market rate!!!).

 

The fact that the LI development is the exact thing that should be build adjacent to rapid stations is aggravatingly ignored by large swaths of residents. I'm at least somewhat worried that Johnson's rhetoric will move him along with relative success.

Jeff Johnson is gonna run himself right out of the race.  I understand his philosophy on neglected neighborhoods and fixing the quality of life in them.  I largely agree.  But in doing so, you cant stiff arm growth, development and business.  Managing all of that and be a proponent of that is part of the job.  His twitter account is unleashing dismay for high density developments.  Jeff, you WANT high density developments.

 

Johnson's history shows he is all about stiff-arming. 

Yeah as bad as Frank Jackson is, we don't want Johnson.

Interesting perspective on Jackson (from the reader's commentary). I hadn't thought of him in that light and it would explain some of his philosophy and commentary towards crime in Cleveland.

Hes a pushover.  He has been here through some good stuff, but business-wise he gets walked all over.  I actually believe that is better than being a stubborn mule and having private sector leave, etc. like some previous people.  Yes i agree, the crime, while i think its on his radar, has never been a priority.  Glad there is finally an initiative out....ironically during an election campaign.  Crime is actually the hardest thing to fix.  I like the intervention at a young age to kids who are reaching a fork in the road between a good life and bad life.  Thats where we need to intervene.  Not sure we have the resources to all of a sudden pull adults out of the muck.  Jobs would sure help, but who knows.

 

I don't think there is anything ironic or coincidental about Jackson's "neighborhood initiative" coming out in an election year.

Jeff Johnson is gonna run himself right out of the race.  I understand his philosophy on neglected neighborhoods and fixing the quality of life in them.  I largely agree.  But in doing so, you cant stiff arm growth, development and business.  Managing all of that and be a proponent of that is part of the job.  His twitter account is unleashing dismay for high density developments.  Jeff, you WANT high density developments.

 

Johnson's history shows he is all about stiff-arming. 

 

I agree with Johnson on some issues, disagree on others.  But you're right about his history.  I'm beginning to fear that Jackson may be the best option we have.  And wow is that sad.

Jeff Johnson is gonna run himself right out of the race.  I understand his philosophy on neglected neighborhoods and fixing the quality of life in them.  I largely agree.  But in doing so, you cant stiff arm growth, development and business.  Managing all of that and be a proponent of that is part of the job.  His twitter account is unleashing dismay for high density developments.  Jeff, you WANT high density developments.

 

Johnson's history shows he is all about stiff-arming. 

 

I agree with Johnson on some issues, disagree on others.  But you're right about his history.  I'm beginning to fear that Jackson may be the best option we have.  And wow is that sad.

 

i still like the Edwins guy.  Yeah, i know, he doesnt have political experience.  But at a micro level, he has addressed one of our citys biggest problems.  Taking people with really checkered pasts and no thought of prosperity, and giving them hope and opportunity. Its been a huge success.  His line of thinking is spot on.  If he can do that at a larger level, that will certainly impact our neighborhoods much more than just throwing tax dollars at it.  He also has a business mind...which is good.  I certainly wouldnt expect him to be a pushover.

Jeff Johnson is gonna run himself right out of the race.  I understand his philosophy on neglected neighborhoods and fixing the quality of life in them.  I largely agree.  But in doing so, you cant stiff arm growth, development and business.  Managing all of that and be a proponent of that is part of the job.  His twitter account is unleashing dismay for high density developments.  Jeff, you WANT high density developments.

 

Johnson's history shows he is all about stiff-arming. 

 

I agree with Johnson on some issues, disagree on others.  But you're right about his history.  I'm beginning to fear that Jackson may be the best option we have.  And wow is that sad.

 

i still like the Edwins guy.  Yeah, i know, he doesnt have political experience.  But at a micro level, he has addressed one of our citys biggest problems.  Taking people with really checkered pasts and no thought of prosperity, and giving them hope and opportunity. Its been a huge success.  His line of thinking is spot on.  If he can do that at a larger level, that will certainly impact our neighborhoods much more than just throwing tax dollars at it.  He also has a business mind...which is good.  I certainly wouldnt expect him to be a pushover.

 

Yes he's wonderful, and would be better than any other person running.  I just think we need to hear more about his thoughts on other things as I wonder if he will be too myopic in what he knows about/understands.     

^ I don't think Jackson is a bad mayor at all but he really should step aside after 3 terms.  One reason I think this is that, there are some good candidates that are sitting out because Jackson is running again.

^They should run regardless.  If they aren't elected, at least their name is out there and they gave it a shot.  I'm still waiting on Chris Ronayne to throw his name in.  His contract with UCI should be up soon.

^ That's who I was thinking about.