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From the 4/23/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Costs of jail solution mount

Hamilton Co.'s Butler option raising doubts

BY DAN HORN | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Police haven't charged Antonio Mathis with any new crimes since his arrest last month, but the cost of his drug case for taxpayers keeps growing.

 

That's because Mathis is among 200 Hamilton County inmates now housed at the Butler County Jail, a move that is consuming more tax dollars than some lawyers, judges and county officials expected.

 

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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060423/NEWS01/604230371/1056/rss02

 

I thought the plan was to keep already sentenced criminals in Hamilton and those awaiting trial in Hamilton Co. This would make the most sense, and prevent the above.

^If they are sentenced aren't they supposed to be in prison?

^huh?

 

Yes, if they are sentenced, they should be in prison, and that probably means the trials are over, so send them to Hamilton instead of those who are awaiting or in the process of a trial. Keep them downtown/queensgate.

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From the 6/2/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Defendants escape jail time

Hundreds released because of overcrowding

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Hundreds of defendants have escaped time behind bars because there is no room at the Hamilton County jail - even though county taxpayers have spent more than $500,000 in the last six weeks to house overflow inmates in Butler County.

 

Click on link for article.

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060602/NEWS01/606020397/1056/rss02

 

From the 6/6/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Multimedia

Chart: County sales taxes (PDF)

Graphic: Impact of the increase (PDF)

 

Sales tax could rise for jail

Proposal would raise Hamilton Co. rate to 6.75%

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Stuff you buy in Hamilton County would cost more under a proposed quarter-cent sales tax increase - to pay for a new jail - to be announced today by top Hamilton County leaders.

 

Click on link for article.

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060606/NEWS01/606060343/1056/rss02

 

I definitely want a new jail, but I am not sold on the sales tax.  I vote for the casino, let those dollars foot the bill!

yeah......great progressive thinking Hamilton County leaders.  This is there solution to everything...lets increase the sales tax.  I'm sure that the citizens of Hamilton County will go for this one after your terrible projections of revenue from the previous increase.  I thought the leaders in HC were conservatives for the most part....where is there fiscal policy and why cant they open their minds at all for new possible ideas.

 

I would also use money generated from a casino to fund the jail....so that would mean that HC officials should put their clout behind the casino effort in Cincy instead of against it.  That would seem to make sense to me..why keep taxing your shrinking tax base when you could get the money from somewhere else?

"The Campaign for a Safer Hamilton County".  Yeah, that's smooth.  Play up the fear angle.  From the 6/7/06 Enquirer:

 

 

PHOTO: Hamilton County Commissioner Phil Heimlich talks about a proposed new jail Tuesday afternoon at Memorial Hall in Over-the-Rhine.  The Enquirer/Glenn Hartong

 

Tax foes fall into line behind sales-tax hike

Cell space called critical to safety, growth

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Some of the most ardent anti-tax politicians in Hamilton County stood together Tuesday to ask voters to tax themselves more.

 

"The Campaign for a Safer Hamilton County" - seeking a quarter-cent sales tax increase in Hamilton County to pay for a new jail and property-tax reduction - had its official kick-off at Memorial Hall.

 

Click on link for article.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060607/NEWS01/606070397/1056/rss02

 

From the 6/9/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Sales tax increase touted

Businesses told about property tax reduction

BY JON NEWBERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Commercial and industrial property owners would reap more than 25 percent of a Hamilton County property tax rebate, part of a plan to build a new county jail.

 

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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060609/NEWS01/606090372/1056/rss02

 

From the 6/10/06 Cincinnati Post:

 

 

Some see jail tax as hard sell

By Bob Driehaus

Post contributor

 

Phil Heimlich, president of the Hamilton County Board of Commissioners, and his allies are rolling out a campaign to build support among opinion makers, law enforcement officials and business leaders for a sales tax hike that would pay for a new county jail.

 

Click on link for article.

 

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060610/NEWS01/606100359/1010/RSS01

 

From the 6/14/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Jail sales tax in trouble

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

A proposal to increase the Hamilton County sales tax to fund a new $225 million jail could be in trouble.

 

Commissioner Phil Heimlich, one of the leading proponents of increasing the sales tax one-quarter cent to pay for the jail and a property tax rollback, wanted to present a resolution today to start the process of having his proposal go before voters in the fall election.

 

Click on link for article.

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060614/NEWS01/306140013/1056/rss02

 

From the 6/15/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Sales tax plan no slam dunk

DeWine unconvinced about Heimlich proposal

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

A week after big-name Hamilton County Republicans publicly backed a proposed sales tax increase to pay for a jail, the proposal is missing the backing of the one Republican it needs - Commissioner Pat DeWine.

 

Click on link for article.

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060615/NEWS01/606150358/1056/rss02

 

This land should be sold even if there wasn't a jail to pay for.  Who needs a silly fairgrounds anyways.  These county fairs are a thing of the past, they are not worth their cost due to a simple lack of interest......NO ONE CARES.

Yeah, forget history, forget Ohio's agricultural past, demolish beautiful exhibit halls...

 

I care UncleRando.

From the 6/26/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Commissioners: Study, not sales tax

BY HOWARD WILKINSON | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Hamilton County commissioners voted 2-1 Monday to order up a month-long task force study of Hamilton County’s jail space needs – although Sheriff Simon Leis says he will have no part of it.

 

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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060626/NEWS01/306260027/-1/rss

 

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From the 7/14/06 Cincinnati Post:

 

 

Heimlich passes on jail task force meeting

By Joe Wessels

Post contributor

 

There were lots of people at a Hamilton County jail task force meeting Thursday - just not the county commission president.

 

Phil Heimlich skipped Thursday's meeting, a roundtable represented by county law enforcement professionals, county agencies, City of Cincinnati officials and community groups.

 

Click on link for article.

 

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060714/NEWS01/607140363/1010/RSS01

 

Hey I say to continue throwing Hamilton County's criminals up north.  Give the northern 'burbs our criminals, and give Nky our trash (Bavarian)....keep Cincinnati/Hamilton County clean!!!

 

Officials: Jail contract not a long-term solution to county money woes

By Candice Brooks

Hamilton Journal News

Staff Writer

 

 

HAMILTON — Though revenue from a contract to house Hamilton County prisoners in the Butler County Jail is more than projected, officials said it’s not enough to solve Butler County’s long-term budget woes.

 

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From the 7/16/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Trustees opposed to new Hamilton County jail site

BY CLIFF RADEL | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Not in our backyard.

 

Colerain Township's Trustees said that in unison last week as they passed a resolution informing the Hamilton County commissioners of their unanimous opposition to building a jail in the township.

 

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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060716/NEWS01/607160367/1056/rss02

 

City offers county 'tent jail'

Structure near former Workhouse would hold 800 inmates

BY DAN KLEPAL AND KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITERS

 

A majority of Cincinnati City Council members will announce today an idea to build temporary jail facilities adjacent to the River City Correctional Facility on Colerain Avenue - eight structures made of bricks and topped by heavy canvas that would house up to 800 inmates until a permanent new jail can be built.

 

Click on link for article.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060719/NEWS01/607190370/1056/rss02

 

I was at the county commissioners meeting and they (without actually voting) denied this as a possibility...they pretty much said that if the city wants to use their money for these jails why not just skip this and give us money for the real thing...I love Todd Portune...also they voted to allow for the discussion of not only a 20 year 1/4 cent increase but also discuss shorter terms...they put on the table 4,5,6,10,15,and 20 tax increases... they are going to try and figure out which one works the best... it sounded like Dewine wanted something shorter than 20 years...

Whatever eventually gets built, it had better be absolutely huge.  Cincinnati needs a reputation as a place where criminals are jailed to the fullest extent of the law.  Today's revolving-door jail is inadequate, and it's part of the reason I see so many worthless pieces of trash drive in from KY, Clermont, and Indiana and troll around my neighborhood looking for hookers and drugs.

From the 7/19/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Heimlich: Tent jail too costly

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

A proposal by a majority of Cincinnati City Council members to pay for a tent-like jail was blasted today by Hamilton County Commissioner Phil Heimlich, who said it would cost more than housing prisoner in jails in other counties.

 

Click on link for article.

http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/stories/2006/07/17/daily33.html?from_rss=1

 

Whatever eventually gets built, it had better be absolutely huge.  Cincinnati needs a reputation as a place where criminals are jailed to the fullest extent of the law.  Today's revolving-door jail is inadequate, and it's part of the reason I see so many worthless pieces of trash drive in from KY, Clermont, and Indiana and troll around my neighborhood looking for hookers and drugs.

 

Agree and I still think it should be built in the city, preferably Queensgate.  How about the old Hudepohl Brewery Location?

Bubble jail idea criticized

BY DAN KLEPAL AND EILEEN KELLEY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

 

They call it the Bubble.

 

For 154 inmates in two northern Ohio correctional institutions, the Bubble has stood up to snow, heat waves and high winds.

 

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Theres an image on the actual story page:

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060720/NEWS01/607200338/1077

From the 7/25/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Portune proposes sales tax boost for jail

Says it would save money in long run

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

If taxpayers want to save more than $180 million on a new jail, they should consider increasing Hamilton County's sales tax by a half-cent, Commissioner Todd Portune said.

 

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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060725/NEWS01/607250348/1056/rss02

 

From the Enquirer's local news briefs, 7/29/06:

 

 

MEETING ON TENT JAILS PLANNED

 

Cincinnati City Council members Leslie Ghiz and Jeff Berding will hold a town hall meeting Monday at College Hill Recreation Center on their idea to spend up to $6 million in building a temporary jail with 800 beds while Hamilton County leaders work to build a new, permanent lock-down facility.

 

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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060729/NEWS01/607290358/1056/rss02

 

From the 7/30/06 Enquirer:

 

 

PHOTO: Hamilton County Commissioner Phil Heimlich (left), Prosecutor Joe Deters, Carl Lindner and Sheriff Simon Leis (seated) announced their jail-funding plan June 6.  Enquirer file photo / Glenn Hartong

 

Jail funding proves taxing

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Are residents willing to pay a quarter-cent more for every dollar spent on goods to pay for a new Hamilton County jail? A half-cent more?

 

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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060730/NEWS01/607300351/-1/rss

 

Public Forum Held On Temporary Jail "Tents"

Reported by: Lance Barry

Web produced by: Neil Relyea

First posted: 7/31/2006 11:23:16 PM

 

PHOTO: Temporary Jail Aerial (WCPO/WCPO.com)

PHOTO: Temporary Jail Rendering (WCPO/WCPO.com)

 

The public got its first look tonight at a proposal presented by two Cincinnati city council members to house Hamilton County jail inmates in tent-like structures.

 

Click on link for article.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/2006/local/07/31/tent_jails.html

I'm generally pretty quick to bash the county for anything and everything I can, but wow:

 

"We'll build them and hand it to you, and you'll have to find a way to operate them," Ghiz said to committee members Monday, as if she were explaining the situation to the county. "If you choose not to do that, so be it."

 

Wow, Leslie - talk about a positive team-based attitude!  Working together to solve problems, that's the Ghiz way!

 

"I'm tremendously sorry it's being received by the county the way it is."

Uh, yeah, sure you are...

 

"But it will be over my dead body if we continue to sit back and allow crime to be committed."

 

That's a straw man.  Show me anyone on the county's side who has argued, "My plan is to sit back and allow crime to be committed."  Nonsense.  Their plan is to ship folks to Butler County.  And the money you're blowing on these structures could be used to expand that program, and could do so immediately.

 

So, is that a better plan than the temporary structures?  I don't know.  Seems like that would be a pretty easy thing to do a financial analysis of - figure out the total costs of building and running the facility with temporary structures; then figure out how many inmates can be housed in Butler County over five years with that money; and compare 800 with the Butler County numbers.

 

But does the finance committee have those numbers?  If not, Ghiz's statements are stupid.  If so, why aren't they trumpeting the numbers?

 

And if it is more cost-effective to build these structures, then I would think a responsible adult would want to answer Deters's list of concerns:

There won't be a facility on hand for meals and laundry; they won't comply with zoning codes; they are not secure; there will be no space for medical facilities, kitchens, visitation and recreation.

 

Ghiz is a travesty for a council member.  Perfectly willing to blow our money if it means she won't have to answer legitimate concerns...just amazing.

 

Tent jail proposal hits new snag

By Joe Wessels

Post contributor

Publication date: 08-01-2006

 

 

The proposal by Cincinnati City Council members Jeff Berding and Leslie Ghiz to build a $6 million temporary tent jail in Camp Washington took another hit Monday from a group headed by Prosecutor Joseph Deters.

 

Click on link for article.

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060801/NEWS01/608010370

DeWine supports jail tax

He's changed his view, but won't go for 20 years

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Hamilton County's two Republican commissioners are close to a deal that would fund a new jail using a quarter-cent sales tax increase, but they still need to settle on how long that tax should last.

 

Click on link for article.

 

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060804/NEWS01/608040403

Both from the 8/5/06 Enquirer:

 

 

Portune endorses sales tax rise

Half-cent jump would help pay for jail

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

Hamilton County Commissioner Todd Portune is formally proposing that Hamilton County pay for a new jail with a half-cent on the dollar sales tax increase.

 

Click on link for article.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060805/NEWS01/608050386/1056/rss02

 

Tax proposal reaction mixed

Hearing finds range of opinion about jail fund plan

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

SYCAMORE TWP. - Law enforcement officials gave a rousing endorsement Monday to a proposed quarter-cent on the dollar sales tax to pay for a new Hamilton County jail, but citizen reaction was mixed.

 

Click on link for article.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060808/NEWS01/608080339/1056

Don't people in Hamilton County have issues with high taxes?  At least that is the perception...

 

Are they telling me that there is no other way to build a 2,000 bed jail without raising taxes?  If I was a county official I would be hesitant to raise taxes in a county that is losing population.

^You would think so wouldn't you...

 

Tax hike for jail debated

Consultant's report on price tag due Friday

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

WESTWOOD - A sometimes-raucous crowd argued over the need for a new Hamilton County jail - more jail beds versus more social service and treatment programs - but Nika Galvez seemed to sum up the majority opinion best.

 

Click on link for article.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060815/NEWS01/608150344

Man this Langdon guy manages to have both COAST and CCV as clients.  He is somehow representing two of the worst political organizations around.  But anyways, it's good to see yet another issue get messy and become a drag 'em out political war. :|

 

Who paid for jail tax calls?

No one is saying, but it's Joe Deters' voice

BY KIMBALL PERRY | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER

 

No one is claiming responsibility.

 

Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters recorded a message used in automated telephone calls made to Hamilton County citizens, encouraging attendance at public meetings to hear "Phil Heimlich's plan to build a new jail."

 

Click on link for article.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060816/NEWS01/608160370

At the same time I don't understand the city residents desire to keep it out of the city.  These would be new "city" jobs.  Now I realize that most of us on here wouldn't be interested in these jobs but they are still jobs.  It would help local residents and for the ones that came from outside the city, it would bring in additional income tax.  This jail should be built in Queensgate, end of story.  The exterior should look like a POMO office building with faux glass materials to help further disguise the look of a jail.  Queensgate is the only neighborhood with 0 residents and a new jail with a POMO look (midrise) would help clean up the overly industrial look of Queensgate.

http://www.pulsejournal.com/news/content/news/stories/2006/08/15/pj081606jail.html

 

Commissioner says Hamilton County doesn't have jail answer Warren County wants

 

Tuesday, August 15, 2006

By Tiffany Y. Latta

 

Staff Writer

 

LEBANON — Warren County commissioners, who for years have debated ways to ease overcrowding at the county jail, said Tuesday they want to explore another alternative: a regional jail that would include Hamilton County.

 

Click on link for article.

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