August 14, 20213 yr 14 hours ago, roman totale XVII said: So, a mini Steelyard Commons. At least the Steelyard is tucked away.
August 14, 20213 yr I get that they are probably adapting the existing Kmart structure for this, but man if they just had the stores lining 150th/Lorain with thr parking behind it, it would make such a difference. The shops in Kamms proper all have that and it makes the street feel so connected. Edited August 14, 20213 yr by tj111
August 14, 20213 yr If I recall correctly planning commission was hardly in love with this re-vamp but approved it any way given the alternative (vacant store for years to come). The council rep was very supportive but I got the feeling that it was mostly because the neighborhood was tired of the blight.
September 7, 20213 yr MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 6, 2021 Seeds & Sprouts XX -- Downtown moves signal project, Morgan Stanley shrinks office & more Kamms medical building to add 2 floors, apartments An unusual proposal to rebuild a vacant, one-story medical building in Kamms Corners with renovated offices and a restaurant topped by apartments and crowned by a swimming pool won final approval from Cleveland's City Planning Commission Sept. 3. SSA CLE, LLC plans to convert the 1954-built, 7,300-square-foot Riveredge Medical Building, 17730 Lorain Ave. into a mixed-use structure over the next year. The building is located across Lorain from Fairview Hospital. SSA CLE acquired the property in 2019 for $375,000, county records show. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/09/seeds-sprouts-xx-downtown-moves-signal.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 7, 20213 yr 12 hours ago, KJP said: MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 6, 2021 Seeds & Sprouts XX -- Downtown moves signal project, Morgan Stanley shrinks office & more Kamms medical building to add 2 floors, apartments An unusual proposal to rebuild a vacant, one-story medical building in Kamms Corners with renovated offices and a restaurant topped by apartments and crowned by a swimming pool won final approval from Cleveland's City Planning Commission Sept. 3. SSA CLE, LLC plans to convert the 1954-built, 7,300-square-foot Riveredge Medical Building, 17730 Lorain Ave. into a mixed-use structure over the next year. The building is located across Lorain from Fairview Hospital. SSA CLE acquired the property in 2019 for $375,000, county records show. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/09/seeds-sprouts-xx-downtown-moves-signal.html Bravo! Much more of this in abandoned Cleveland buildings please!
September 7, 20213 yr I'm surprised they aren't demo'ing and starting from scratch. Plus, apartments with an indoor pool and rooftop terrace? This project is really surprising and unique to me- in a good way. Cool.
September 7, 20213 yr Pretty cool in itself, but even more when you factor in the owner will be moving into the penthouse unit himself. Can't think of any better way to show confidence in the city/neighborhood as a whole, and his project in particular.
September 17, 20213 yr Wow, that's bad. A drive-through lane at a street corner. We really don't want people to walk in this town, do we? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 17, 20213 yr I do like how the Aldi is at the corner of the property closest to the West Park rapid - makes redeveloping that area into a 15 minute neighborhood a bit easier. When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?
September 17, 20213 yr 10 minutes ago, KJP said: Wow, that's bad. A drive-through lane at a street corner. We really don't want people to walk in this town, do we? The Starbucks should be built to the corner with the drive through behind it. The Aldi could be closer to the sidewalk too.
September 17, 20213 yr Sadly, despite the presence of a rapid station, this is one of the least walkable stretches of Lorain Rd. (through Cleveland, at least) no matter what they do at this site.
September 17, 20213 yr 1 hour ago, X said: Sadly, despite the presence of a rapid station, this is one of the least walkable stretches of Lorain Rd. (through Cleveland, at least) no matter what they do at this site. Unfortunately, most of the Red Line's stations fall into that category. The only stations that are in walkable areas are Mayfield Road, Cedar-University Circle, Downtown and West 25th Street. That is what happens when a transit rail line is located along railroad lines. Edited September 17, 20213 yr by LifeLongClevelander
September 18, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, GISguy said: I love it. Especially the Big Lots and the Starbucks. I purposely try to shop within the city limits whenever I can. I can’t think of another big lord in the city. And I’m always at a Starbucks lol, so I will be here. And I’m sure people in the area are gonna use this shopping center as well.
September 30, 20213 yr Perimeter fencing has been installed around the old KMart and the Marquard building.
October 3, 20213 yr On 9/17/2021 at 5:33 PM, X said: Sadly, despite the presence of a rapid station, this is one of the least walkable stretches of Lorain Rd. (through Cleveland, at least) no matter what they do at this site. The Rapid station sorely needs to be moved directly onto Lorain. Much like the Little Italy station is on Mayfield. Edited October 3, 20213 yr by marty15
October 6, 20213 yr That didn't take long. Permit application already submitted for the Starbucks at the SE corner of West 150th and Lorain.... Record B21027766: Com Building Permit Record Status: Application Pending Work Location 14911 Lorain AVE Cleveland OH 44111 Record Details Project Description: Starbucks Shell Construction Construction of a 2,203 square foot single story shell building for future tenant Starbucks. Owner: CLEVELAND, OH CENTER LLC 295 MADISON AVE NEW YORK NY 10017 Responsible Party information Robert Skillman Onyx Creative 25001 Emery Road, Suite400 Cleveland, OH, 44128 Contact Phone 216-223-3238 E-mail: [email protected] Additional Information Job Value($): $750,000.00 Number of Buildings: 1 Application Information COMMERCIAL Nature of Job Description.: New Construction Use Group 1: A-2 Assembly - Food and Drink Consumption Construction Class: IIB Certificate of Occupancy Required: No BUILDING CODE Work Area: 2203 No. of Stories/Units: 1 Bldg Footprint (SqFt): 2203 Sprinklers: No KSQFT: 3 KFPSQFT: 3 Parcel Information Parcel Number: 02727008 Ward: 17 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 20, 20213 yr Permits submitted for selective demolition of former KMart canopy and garden center, 14901 Lorain Ave. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 9, 20213 yr Building permit application submitted for the new Aldi's at 14651 Lorain Ave. It's a $2.1 million, 19,209-square-foot store. MS Consultants of Columbus submitted the application. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 1, 20223 yr Great News about the Oswald Kamm Building in Kamm's Corner's WPKND is excited to share that plans to update the Oswald Kamm Building at the corner of Rocky River Drive and Lorain Avenue are underway. Plans will align the building footprint more closely with its historic layout with the demolition of the rear addition and outdoor tiki bar. Once removed, a landscaped patio and updated parking lot will complete the project. This major investment by the owners will help facilitate the attraction of a new business bringing vibrancy to one of the neighborhood’s most important corners. Stay tuned in the coming months for updates! #wpknd #westparkcle Edited March 1, 20223 yr by Growth Mindset Link not working
August 2, 20222 yr Boo! The ol' Sidetrack Cafe where RTA employees from Triskett garage would get toasted after (not before/during!) work is going to become a cannabis dispensary! Work Location 13429 Lakewood Heights BLVD CLEVELAND OH 44107-6220 Record Details Project Description: Cannabis Dispensary Renovation minor site work (striping, fencing & signage). Mostly interior renovation from bar into a dispensary. Includes minimal structural, architectural, mechanical (HVAC and plumbing) as well as electrical. Owner: TheraTrue, Inc. 4062 peachtree road atlanta GA 30319 Responsible Party information Mark Green Marous Brothers Construction 33633 vine street willoughby, OH, 44094 Contact Phone 440-488-3011 E-mail: [email protected] Job Value($): $650,000.00 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 12, 20232 yr https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsJiVwbvM99/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Don’t think this will embed, but pretty cool time lapse video of WP Animal Hospital’s new building.
September 20, 20231 yr West Park area developments emerge By Ken Prendergast / September 20, 2023 While big developments in and near Downtown and University Circle continue to be announced, a lot is going on in other Cleveland neighborhoods, too. Among those seeing activity are the West Park and Bellaire-Puritas neighborhoods, with new market-rate housing, jobs and educational projects planned. All three investments are critical to keeping Cleveland’s westernmost neighborhoods fresh and vibrant, said their City Councilman Charles Slife, of Ward 17. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/09/20/west-park-area-developments-emerge/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
September 21, 20231 yr West Park building form is truly a mystery to me. It's like every building there tries to be urban while at the same time being as anti-urban as possible. They surely won't shake the "suburb in the city" mantra any time soon with developments like this.
November 15, 20231 yr On 3/18/2021 at 11:34 AM, tj111 said: New details / community meeting on the Old Lorain Rd metropark trail. https://www.clevelandmetroparks.com/about/cleveland-metroparks-organization/planning/old-lorain-road-rocky-river-reservation-connection This came up in the Metroparks board meeting agenda. Moving forward.
November 29, 20231 yr The hits just keep on coming "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 30, 20231 yr Major expansion of Fairview Hospital planned By Ken Prendergast / November 29, 2023 In a significant project in Cleveland’s Kamm’s Corners neighborhood, a phased expansion of Cleveland Clinic’s Fairview Hospital, 18101 Lorain Ave., is in the works. The project is proposed to start by replacing older structures with new ones on the hospital’s North Campus. After those new structures are built, three groups of older structures on the South Campus will be demolished and their land redeveloped with future hospital facilities. The group of three structures are the seven-level Groveland Avenue parking garage, attached medical office buildings and, across Lorain Avenue at the North Campus, the Moll Cancer Pavilion. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/29/major-expansion-of-fairview-hospital-planned/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 30, 20231 yr 9 minutes ago, KJP said: Major expansion of Fairview Hospital planned By Ken Prendergast / November 29, 2023 In a significant project in Cleveland’s Kamm’s Corners neighborhood, a phased expansion of Cleveland Clinic’s Fairview Hospital, 18101 Lorain Ave., is in the works. The project is proposed to start by replacing older structures with new ones on the hospital’s North Campus. After those new structures are built, three groups of older structures on the South Campus will be demolished and their land redeveloped with future hospital facilities. The group of three structures are the seven-level Groveland Avenue parking garage, attached medical office buildings and, across Lorain Avenue at the North Campus, the Moll Cancer Pavilion. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/29/major-expansion-of-fairview-hospital-planned/ It is nice to see some redevelopment and job growth. But it's a shame to lose housing in such a nice stable city neighborhood.
November 30, 20231 yr 41 minutes ago, freefourur said: It is nice to see some redevelopment and job growth. But it's a shame to lose housing in such a nice stable city neighborhood. I know of some shovel ready land in a nearby community that could support healthcare facilities of scale…… Okay, I won’t open that can of worms….
January 21, 20241 yr Yes, I know the West Park station is actually in Jefferson, but it's in the Kamm's-West Park CDC service area so... West Park GCRTA station housing planned By Ken Prendergast / January 21, 2024 Four days after receiving City Planning Commission approval for one transit-oriented development project, an Indianapolis-based developer will ask to buy land from the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (GCRTA) for its next proposed apartment building at a west-side train station. This time, Flaherty & Collins Development LLC wants to build at GCRTA’s West Park station, 14510 Lorain Ave. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/01/21/west-park-gcrta-station-housing-planned/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 21, 20241 yr I guess I am not really up to date with the terms out there, but does affordable housing mean CMHA, sec 8, rate based on income, or just plain cheaper than market rate?
January 21, 20241 yr I don't want rta thinking too small with these TOD projects. trisket, west park, west blvd can each support major projects with several hundred housing unit
January 21, 20241 yr @cfdwarrior Coincidentally, this was posted just yesterday over in the Cleveland Heights thread... Affordable Housing Affordable housing is housing where the monthly mortgage or rent costs less than 30% of the gross household income -- households with very low incomes, the focus of government-subsidized housing. Attainable Housing Attainable housing is nonsubsidized, for-sale housing that is affordable to households with incomes between 80 and 120 percent of the area median income -- aimed at providing housing options for middle-income households who may not qualify for subsidized housing but still face challenges in affording market-rate housing. https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/community-discussions-around-housing-explaining-common-key-terms "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 21, 20241 yr 7 hours ago, KJP said: Yes, I know the West Park station is actually in Jefferson, but it's in the Kamm's-West Park CDC service area so... West Park GCRTA station housing planned By Ken Prendergast / January 21, 2024 Four days after receiving City Planning Commission approval for one transit-oriented development project, an Indianapolis-based developer will ask to buy land from the Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority (GCRTA) for its next proposed apartment building at a west-side train station. This time, Flaherty & Collins Development LLC wants to build at GCRTA’s West Park station, 14510 Lorain Ave. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/01/21/west-park-gcrta-station-housing-planned/ I've lived in Cleveland my entire life and I'm embarrassed that I know so little about this part of the city. 🤦🏼♂️
February 13, 20241 yr Looks like we'll have another vacant car dealership coming to market... email from Ganley Ford West (on Lorain). We are excited to announce that Ken Ganley Ford has purchased Bob Gillingham Ford and will be moving our dealership to their location. Same great people. Same great service. New Location! AS OF FEBRUARY 15TH, FIND US AT Ken Ganley Ford 8383 Brookpark Road, Parma, OH 44129
February 13, 20241 yr Another former dealership on Lorain is in transition too. A truck repair biz wants to open in the former Harley Davidson dealership at the entrance to the RTA station. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 13, 20241 yr On 8/14/2021 at 10:16 AM, Htsguy said: If I recall correctly planning commission was hardly in love with this re-vamp but approved it any way given the alternative (vacant store for years to come). The council rep was very supportive but I got the feeling that it was mostly because the neighborhood was tired of the blight. oh boy i can sympathize with them. i hate to say it, but i think set back off the street is better than fronting the street because afaik there is no way to make big box shopping plazas appealing. at least the abandoned eyesore kmart lot will be reactivated and it will be very useful. this is why steelyard is the best i have seen and experienced because its site is out of the way. even out here in ny with an urban as it could get mall style, that is, with the big box stores stacked on top of each other and a parking garage, its still a bad street face — ie., behold bronx terminal mrkt: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8228314,-73.928767,3a,60y,329.99h,103.08t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7Eh6rEKPwI1dJ-1FrP8nYw!2e0 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8221873,-73.9308278,3a,60.000000y,94.443954h,107.384850t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sf2zcz4uDEdjeQuespqGBtA!2e0?lucs=,94207808,47071704,47069508,47084304,94206605&g_ep=CAISDDYuOTcuMC4zNjAyMBgAIIGBASotLDk0MjA3ODA4LDQ3MDcxNzA0LDQ3MDY5NTA4LDQ3MDg0MzA0LDk0MjA2NjA1QgJVUw%3D%3D&g_st=ic&g_st=ic
February 15, 20241 yr On 2/13/2024 at 7:29 AM, mrnyc said: oh boy i can sympathize with them. i hate to say it, but i think set back off the street is better than fronting the street because afaik there is no way to make big box shopping plazas appealing. at least the abandoned eyesore kmart lot will be reactivated and it will be very useful. this is why steelyard is the best i have seen and experienced because its site is out of the way. even out here in ny with an urban as it could get mall style, that is, with the big box stores stacked on top of each other and a parking garage, its still a bad street face — ie., behold bronx terminal mrkt: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8228314,-73.928767,3a,60y,329.99h,103.08t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s7Eh6rEKPwI1dJ-1FrP8nYw!2e0 https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8221873,-73.9308278,3a,60.000000y,94.443954h,107.384850t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sf2zcz4uDEdjeQuespqGBtA!2e0?lucs=,94207808,47071704,47069508,47084304,94206605&g_ep=CAISDDYuOTcuMC4zNjAyMBgAIIGBASotLDk0MjA3ODA4LDQ3MDcxNzA0LDQ3MDY5NTA4LDQ3MDg0MzA0LDk0MjA2NjA1QgJVUw%3D%3D&g_st=ic&g_st=ic Seattle did it better, but still far from perfect: https://www.google.com/maps/@47.7085584,-122.3245332,3a,75y,341.71h,93.24t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8TURJd2dUqLrbh1GNF-ooQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D8TURJd2dUqLrbh1GNF-ooQ%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D268.7916%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
February 15, 20241 yr ^ thats a better street face. at least as you walk by there are multiple things to go in, not just one entrance like the bronx. this seattle example is lowrise too, so its more reasonable to build. i wish they were more creative like this at the west park site. 🤷♂️
April 11, 20241 yr Fairview Hospital unveils North Campus options By Ken Prendergast / April 10, 2024 At a community meeting this evening at Fairview Hospital, Cleveland Clinic Foundation officials showed five design options for developing a new clinical building containing the Moll Cancer Center and medical offices plus a new parking garage on Fairview Hospital’s North Campus, north of Lorain Avenue. While there were some variations in the scale and shaping of the clinical building, the greatest difference between the options was where and how to construct a new parking garage or three. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/04/10/fairview-hospital-unveils-north-campus-options/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 12, 2024Jul 12 Cleveland Clinic may reduce size of proposed buildings in $150 million refresh of Fairview Hospital Updated: Jul. 11, 2024, 3:12 p.m. By Julie Washington, cleveland.com CLEVELAND, Ohio — After hearing residents’ concerns, the Cleveland Clinic says it may reduce the size of its $150 million construction project to refresh Fairview Hospital’s campus on the far West Side of Cleveland. The Clinic during a community meeting Wednesday night shared two options for the possible layout of its new medical office building, cancer center and parking garage structure on the north side of Lorain Avenue. The Clinic said in late 2023 that Fairview Hospital’s seven-story medical office building, the two-story Moll Cancer Center and 700-space parking deck — all built in the 1970s and 1980s — will be razed and replaced. https://www.cleveland.com/metro/2024/07/cleveland-clinic-may-reduce-size-of-proposed-buildings-in-150-million-refresh-of-fairview-hospital.html
December 4, 2024Dec 4 Three vacant drugstores, three possible outcomes By Ken Prendergast / December 4, 2024 In Councilman Danny Kelly’s Ward 11 on Cleveland’s West Side, there are three vacant drugstores. Each is facing a different potential outcome. A former CVS on Madison Avenue at West Boulevard may be replaced by a fire station after a gas station was rejected by the neighborhood. An abandoned Rite Aid at West 117th Street and Lorain Avenue may become a senior center. And a vacant Walgreens at West 130th Street and Bellaire Road could turned into a supermarket with a gas station. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/12/04/three-vacant-drugstores-three-possible-outcomes/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 22, 2024Dec 22 Fairview Hospital’s North Campus plan gets Rx By Ken Prendergast / December 22, 2024 Although a conceptual plan for Fairview Hospital’s North Campus $150 million redevelopment won unanimous support from Cleveland Planning Commission on Friday, commissioners attached a few conditions to it. At the same meeting, the commission also recommended that Cleveland City Council approve rezoning the hospital’s properties with a more appropriate classification. The hospital is located at 18101 Lorain Ave. in Cleveland’s Kamms Corners neighborhood. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2024/12/22/fairview-hospitals-north-campus-plan-gets-rx/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 25Feb 25 https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/02/work-starts-on-century-old-vision-for-a-cleveland-metroparks-connector-on-west-side.html Work starts on century-old vision for a Cleveland Metroparks connector on West Side Old Lorain Rd connector trail from intersection of Riveredge+Bradgate to Little Met Golf Course
May 9May 9 Reviving this thread after a while… the old Newton D Baker site is closing as part of CMSD’s school closures. That’s a pretty big parcel that could be redeveloped in the heart of the Kamms neighborhood where houses are selling from 250-350k. Combine that with the vacant Ken Ganley Dealership on Lorain and you’re looking at close to 9 acres. That’s a real opportunity to add new housing and amenities in Kamms.
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