I don't normally post gas station developments, but this one is a bit different....

 

Cleveland Planning Commission

 

Agenda for April 7, 2017

 

FAR WEST DESIGN REVIEW

FW2017-003 – Rockport Villa Convenient Store/Gas Station New Construction: Seeking Final Approval

Project Address: 4686 West 130th Street

Project Representative: Daryl Mapson, Tribe Architects

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now that's a gas station ... and mini-mart.  This could actually enhance the look of the neighborhood, whereas most stations tend to detract; even the modern mini-mart/stations... My favorite service station in all of greater Cleveland is that old Tutor-style one in Cleveland Hts at Euclid Heights and Edgehill -- it was originally built by Sohio sometime in the 20s or 30s, I'd guess... Now it's a Marathon... See:

 

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.50634,-81.5885392,3a,80.8y,14.07h,94.39t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDU9gzjirxP3P-hFcC2mEwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

 

I believe there's a companion station building built on Lake Ave in Lakewood near the Gold Coast.

I believe there's a companion station building built on Lake Ave in Lakewood near the Gold Coast.

 

Yes, it's Mr. Tire.

Thanks, KJP[/member]

 

 

 

From St. Joseph Academy (On Rocky River Drive in the Westpark/Kamm's Corner Neighborhood):

 

 

"Dear Friends: We are happy to share with you exciting news about our plans for our sisters and Saint Joseph Academy!

 

 

Our plans secure our history and presence on Rocky River Drive and set a course for the future as we announce the building of a new motherhouse for our sisters in Cleveland and River’s Edge, our spirituality center, as well as a partnership between the Sisters of St. Joseph and Saint Joseph Academy that will enable the Academy to renovate the existing motherhouse for adaptive re-use for its students, faculty, and staff.

 

 

For almost 120 years, our sisters and the Academy have anchored the West Park neighborhood. We are proud to have been among the first settlers of this area. Our roots here are deep and healthy. With the building of a new motherhouse we renew and enhance our commitment to the community. We are very excited for our sisters in Cleveland to live in a building that will support their needs and offer the area residents and others a place for reflection and growth at River’s Edge.

 

 

Our beautiful new building is scheduled to be completed in 2019 and will be a lovely addition to our campus. The relationship between the Academy and the sisters is intertwined and impossible to separate. For many years, our sisters lived with students and together shared their lives in the current motherhouse building. Saint Joseph Academy was truly an extension of the sisters’ home and ministry. When the present Academy building was opened in 1928, an architectural reflection of the motherhouse which it faces, the sisters assumed great financial burden and responsibility yet remained determined to answer the educational needs of the times. In 1928, Bishop Joseph Schrembs of Cleveland compared the motherhouse to a power station: “The sisters give back to the world far more than the world gives to them. The motherhouse is a storehouse of power and preparation for a life devoted to Christian charity, Christian education and Christian welfare work.” This latest chapter with adaptive re-use of the motherhouse honors the values that the sisters maintain to this day which are not to be limited by buildings but are committed to many different kinds of ministries to unify the world and address its hungers.

 

 

Sister Nancy Conway, on behalf of the Congregational Leadership Team, said, “Partnering with the Academy to adapt the motherhouse for their use will enable students to learn and thrive in a building that holds our history, but not our future. We support the Academy’s efforts to look forward as we ourselves start a new chapter on this same property with the hopes that all of us – sisters, Academy students, faculty and staff, employees of the congregation, and staff and affiliates of River’s Edge - will continue to carry forward the values of the Gospel and our mission of unifying love.” Mary Ann Corrigan-Davis ‘71, President of Saint Joseph Academy, concurs, “This is an exciting time for all of us on this campus and we are eager to bring the energy of our students to this special building. We are grateful to the Sisters of St. Joseph for their generosity and support.”

 

 

Plans for the renovation of the motherhouse are set to begin in 2019, after the sisters and River’s Edge have moved to the new building which will be constructed on the northwest portion of the property. Much prayer and discernment have gone into making these decisions about the new building for the sisters and the existing motherhouse. We ask for your continued support as we roll up our sleeves again and embark on another bold and courageous new chapter for our sisters and the Academy."

Working Class Brewery is now open in Kamm's Plaza.  It's really a soft open, not a Grand Opening or anything.

 

https://www.workingclassbrewery.com/

Thanks, KJP[/member]

 

 

What'd I do?

New coffee house is brewing at Five Points in West Park: A Place in the Sun

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio - It's almost show time for 5 Points Coffee & Tea, a new family-operated coffee shop that will open later this summer in the brick building at 3600 West Park Road, at the West 159th Street, West Park and Tuttle Avenue intersection known as Five Points in Cleveland's West Park neighborhood.

 

Conor Boylan said the shop will bring a taste of Ireland to the Five Points area.

 

The project has been a labor of love for Boylan and several other family members. They bought the building about a year ago and have been working on it ever since.

 

"We did the interior demolition and much of the work ourselves," he said. Boylan said. Major work was required, including a new roof, concrete and electrical work, plumbing and more. The project is part of the Kamm's Corners Development Corp. Storefront Renovation Program. Scalish Construction is also working on the coffee shop.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/sunpostherald/index.ssf/2017/07/post_80.html

I always love another good coffee shop - after this Kamms will have 3 great little independent coffee shops in the area, which is awesome.  I laughed a little when the suggested they were going to bring a "taste of Ireland" to the area though, I mean half the houses in the neighborhood already fly the Irish flag - it's about as Irish of a neighborhood as you can get.  I wish them the best though all the same.

Looks like a cute little shop... One thing I love about Cleveland is the number of shops and stores we have in the neighborhood off the main shopping strips.  These all have a unique quaintness.  This neighborhood is very stable and should be a good venue for these entrepreneurs. 

I looked at an apartment that Scalish owns and have seen some of his other work around Cleveland. He definitely pays attention to detail and does a good job, everything he's done I've been impressed with!

Looks like a cute little shop... One thing I love about Cleveland is the number of shops and stores we have in the neighborhood off the main shopping strips.  These all have a unique quaintness.  This neighborhood is very stable and should be a good venue for these entrepreneurs. 

 

I agree--definitely a throwback to 100 years ago, before every home had cars.

This un-TOD project next to the Triskett station in Kamm's is scheduled to go before the CPC on Friday. It doesn't look like anything of significance has changed since it first came out in September (see KJP's post in the Random dev thread here: https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php?topic=3594.msg820202#msg820202)

 

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2017/11032017/index.php

 

 

 

 

I believe the land where this is going was previously owned by RTA and that this was the best they could come up with... without joking.

 

 

Edit- Cuyahoga County Recorder records shows that the property transferred from RTA to Horizon Education Centers in May of this year.

horrible. If RTA had any vision, this could be a 50 apartments AND the horizon education center as one of the tenants....

horrible. If RTA had any vision, this could be a 50 apartments AND the horizon education center as one of the tenants....

 

Agreed 1000%.  If anything Trisket station is NOT the one to do this at.  Brookpark would make more sense, for commuter parents to drop kids off.  By the time parents get to Trisket, they'll just stay in their cars and continue downtown!  Plus Trisket is (sort of) still in the fabric of an existing neighborhood. 

 

RTA has ZERO vision.

A minor correction. Triskett is a huge park-n-ride location. Not as big as Brookpark, but still big.

 

Sadly, RTA can't choose its preferred property buyers, especially when it is required by the Federal Transit Administration to make available for sale property it is no longer using. I'm sure they would have preferred a 50-unit apartment building, but no developer apparently showed interest.

 

The 40-unit Aspen Place apartments at the West 65th station was 15 years in waiting since RTA decided to rebuild rather than close that station. It took years of planning by Detroit-Shoreway Development Corp. and a lot if subsidies to make that project happen.

 

Having said all that, RTA properties can be zoned by the city for specific uses and developers incentivized by RTA to build those uses. For example, if I was running RTA, I would issue RFPs for selling excess land near stations with desired uses described. The winning bids would be able to acquire each parcel for $1.

So the K-Mart is closing on the corner on W. 150th and Lorain, that's public knowledge now.  However, prior to that being announced there were already rumors swirling that Giant Eagle, having recently closed the W. 130th and Lorain location, would also close the location on Edgecliff (off of Warren) and build out a "Super" Giant Eagle / Get Go at the current K-Mart location.  The Edgecliff location is very small and has limited selection compared to other Giant Eagle locations, and recently Rocky River and Fairview Giant Eagles' just saw renovations and expansion so it would make sense, however right now I haven't seen anything substantiating this yet. 

Tweet-thread from @BellairePuritas CDC

 

1/Thank you to the many residents who made it to the community meeting! If missed the update: DealPoint Merrill purchased the former Giant Eagle site at W138th and Lorain for development project that includes reusing the former building and building a new building along Lorain. https://t.co/GZpEOSXCtC

 

2/The former Giant Eagle building will be converted into a CubeSmart self-storage facility with some type of retail mail store, like a UPS store, in the front of the building. A new 3,000 square foot restaurant-style building will be built along Lorain Avenue.

 

3/While a tenant has yet to be identified for the front space, a local broker has been hired and will begin marketing the space after the project is reviewed by the Board of Zoning Appeals. The total project cost is a 14 million dollar private investment into the neighborhood.

 

4/Questions can be directed to Melissa Miller, our Neighborhood Planning and Economic Development Coordinator: m.miller (at) bpdc (dot) org

More detail in regards to the above....

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2018/crr04-02-2018.pdf

 

9:30

 

Calendar No. 18-63: 13820 Lorain Ave. Ward 16

Brian Kazy

31 Notices

Overland Associates, owner, proposes to change use to 110,000 square foot indoor storage facility

(second floor to be added to existing 55,000 square foot building), and to construct 3,050 square

foot retail building and 3 additional storage buildings in a C2 Semi-Industry District, B3 General

Industry District and an Urban Form Overlay District. The owner appeals for relief from the strict

application of the following sections of the Cleveland Codified Ordinances:

1. Section 348.04(d)(1) which states that new buildings are required to have a front yard depth

of 8 feet maximum from the principal street frontage. Three new buildings are proposed at

rear of lot, more than 800 feet from principal street frontage.

2. Section 348.04(d)(2) which states that a frontage build-out of at least 80% of principal street

frontage is required, with a maximum 20% of this requirement permitted to be met with a

street screen. In this case approximately 47% of principal street frontage (with a maximum of

20% street screen) is built-out.

3. Section 341.02 which states that review and approval of the City Planning Dept/Commission is

required for project located in a designated Design Review District. (Filed March 7, 2018)

 

This un-TOD project next to the Triskett station in Kamm's is scheduled to go before the CPC on Friday. It doesn't look like anything of significance has changed since it first came out in September (see KJP's post in the Random dev thread here: https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php?topic=3594.msg820202#msg820202)

 

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2017/11032017/index.php

 

 

 

 

 

Not a very good photo looking into the morning sun, but the low-density, single-use structure, suburban-style Horizon child care center has started construction at the Triskett @GCRTA #rail station in #Cleveland. It is a #transit supportive land use, however.

 

 

 

It's a great location for a childcare center, but boy is that design terrible.

West Park has the potential to cater to people like my fiance and I...

 

We will live our first 3-4 years of marriage in Ohio City, but will likely be forced to the suburbs once we begin having kids for a bevy of reasons.

 

West Park could offer city proximity to my then wife and I, while offering a nice home, walkable streetscapes, a yard for our kids to play in, and access to the near West suburbs as well as downtown.

 

However, I've been disappointed that Kamms Corners hasn't really "upped its game". While it's certainly a charming little pocket, I don't see any projected plans to attract new, young families. Unless I'm completely wrong - which has been the case before.

There's always Lakewood. Lots of new/rebuilt houses coming. ;)

West Park has the potential to cater to people like my fiance and I...

 

We will live our first 3-4 years of marriage in Ohio City, but will likely be forced to the suburbs once we begin having kids for a bevy of reasons.

 

West Park could offer city proximity to my then wife and I, while offering a nice home, walkable streetscapes, a yard for our kids to play in, and access to the near West suburbs as well as downtown.

 

However, I've been disappointed that Kamms Corners hasn't really "upped its game". While it's certainly a charming little pocket, I don't see any projected plans to attract new, young families. Unless I'm completely wrong - which has been the case before.

 

We're very happy with our decision to stay and raise our family in Ohio City.  Crime (mostly due to drugs) and the quality of schools in the suburbs aren't quite what they used to be when we were growing up. 

There's always Lakewood. Lots of new/rebuilt houses coming. ;)

 

Or Edgewater, which most of Cleveland still thinks is Lakewood ;)

Honestly, i think Kamms has its identity...which is fine.  Tremont has always been a energetic small town in a big city, Ohio City's identity is food, Detroit Shoreway is Performance Arts + Lake, University Circle has arts, research, medicine...all of these has made significant investments in development  based on their identity.  Kamms identity is really just a low key, safe neighborhood.  "Working mans" neighborhood.  I dont see a time where Kamms has the sizzle that the others do, but that being said i love it for what it is.

 

YABO, was faced with your situation.  Lived in detroit shoreway for 5 years. It was great.  Now have kids.  We pretty much narrowed our choices to 1.) Lakewood 2.) nothing else.  Unfortunately the lakewood market caught fire just as we were looking for a house and couldnt get that bang we wanted for our buck. The supply of houses up for development in Lakewood is astronomical, but the supply of turnkey and ready to buy was not high.  I think developers are flipping at a very fast rate now that they see what the margins are.  We  expanded to Shaker/Cleveland Heights and you can still get that bang.  With everything else you mentioned as well.  We have had three millennial couples move into our neighborhood from downtown in the past 6 months.  I see a millenial trend forming. Urban---> Inner Ring. 

 

 

This may be the wrong thread, but why tf can't Parma catch on with yopros

My parents told me stories of going to discos ("The Mining Company") on Pearl Road in Parma in the 1970s... apparently that was the cool place to be for all the young whippersnappers.

 

Oh, to grow up in the suburbs of Cleveland in the 1970s, and have Parma be your nightlife destination... now wonder why these people don't like to go to the city.  ;D

(No offense intended of course to any UOers a bit older than I am who frequented the Mining Company!)

(No offense intended of course to any UOers a bit older than I am who frequented the Mining Company!)

 

I'm pretty sure it was operating well into the late 80's, if not early 90's.  My sister used to trek over there from the east side for one of those horrible underage teen dance nights. 

My parents told me stories of going to discos ("The Mining Company") on Pearl Road in Parma in the 1970s... apparently that was the cool place to be for all the young whippersnappers.

 

Oh, to grow up in the suburbs of Cleveland in the 1970s, and have Parma be your nightlife destination... now wonder why these people don't like to go to the city.  ;D

 

We're getting off-thread, but the Mining Company wasn't in Parma. It was in Cleveland -- 5100 Pearl Road. Brookpark Road was and is the dividing line.

 

I'll post some pics in the Cleveland historical photos thread.... https://www.urbanohio.com/forum/index.php/topic,766.msg914207.html#msg914207

Sunday night Teen Night  at the Mining Company....oh the memories!!!!  3.2 beer in the parking lot, dancing to the greatest 80's songs!!!

West Park has the potential to cater to people like my fiance and I...

 

We will live our first 3-4 years of marriage in Ohio City, but will likely be forced to the suburbs once we begin having kids for a bevy of reasons.

 

West Park could offer city proximity to my then wife and I, while offering a nice home, walkable streetscapes, a yard for our kids to play in, and access to the near West suburbs as well as downtown.

 

However, I've been disappointed that Kamms Corners hasn't really "upped its game". While it's certainly a charming little pocket, I don't see any projected plans to attract new, young families. Unless I'm completely wrong - which has been the case before.

 

YABO713[/member] - Since moving here a few years ago with my wife, we've seen almost entirely new, young "millennial" families moving into our neighborhood.  When we came it was mostly older residents on our street, but since then almost a dozen houses have sold on our block and its been almost all young people 25-35, many of them with small children or recently married.  Kamms is regularly "upping its game" - new stores, restaurants and a brewery have opened here since we've been here, and home prices are skyrocketing right now - we're up 20-30% in about 3 years.  It's definitely slower moving than OHC, Tremont and the like, and it's growth doesn't catch any headlines since there really isn't any gentrification happening - it already was an established neighborhood and continues to be so.  That said I wouldn't write it off - it's got beautiful old houses, it's easily walk-able, has quiet and safe streets - and really you can get anything you need without leaving the neighborhood.  Plus, it has quick and easy access into the "hotter" communities via the rapid or 90/71.

 

It's restaurant game can't compete with Tremont or OHC, it's shopping isn't as good as Westgate or Rocky River, it's not as trendy as  Lakewood - but it's close to all of those things and has everything you need in one spot.  Do what is right for you and your wife, but I would say at least don't write it off.

I would echo what tj111 just said.  I bought in the neighborhood two years ago and am up over 50%.  There are still deals to be had, especially if you're willing to put in the improvement work like I have.  Rocky River and Lakewood may have more amenities, but their housing stock is much less affordable.  And if you're like me, working downtown, you can avoid paying double city taxes in RR or Lakewood. The proximity to the metro parks, the airport, 90/480/71, and the surrounding communities makes West Park an awesome location.

The former Harley Davidson dealership at 14430 Lorain Road (parcel #024-30-002), at the entrance to the West Park RTA Red Line station, sold on May 15 by Pleasant Valley Enterprises to Beth Hanna LLC for $1 million. This is a large parcel measuring 7.95 acres. Kamms CDC developed a masterplan for this section of the Lorain Road corridor, which was endorsed by the City Planning Commission to guide future development here. The masterplan recommends pedestrian/transit-supportive development for this site (see graphics below) but is not legally binding. Beth Hanna LLC, formed last October, includes statutory agent Murad Hanna of 3215 Bay Landing Drive in Westlake as well as incorporators Elias Hanna, Rabi Hanna and Gabi Hanna.

 

I'm told that the dealership may be redeveloped for a Middle Eastern/Mediterranean food distribution business and grocery store. At full build out, at least 50 permanent jobs may be involved with this operation.

 

There is apparently a lot of work to do with the site to redevelop as such. While this is likely bring some new jobs to the neighborhood, it is debatable as to whether this is the highest and best use for this site. On behalf of the transit advocacy group All Aboard Ohio, I can say that we support the Kamms CDC masterplan for this site and would like to learn more details about Hanna's plans, including density, building siting in proximity to sidewalks, number of jobs, etc. All Aboard Ohio believes that a transit-proximate grocery store is desirable, especially when offered on the ground floor of a mixed use development. Also the number of jobs involved could be beneficial, as this region has so few jobs that are transit accessible. But if the distribution truck access plan makes this Red Line station area less pedestrian friendly, it could be counter-productive. Perhaps mjarboe[/member] or others at the PD could find out more about Hanna's plans.

^ I've had similar thoughts about the potential for redeveloment around the West Park station. I love the idea and also that those renderings show a continuation of the street grid with extensions of Bartter Ave and W 145th St.

The Kamm's masterplan looks pretty solid. I'd love to see something like that too. A grocery and food distributor would be a spectacular wasted opportunity. But what leverage does the city have when they can't get TOD on their own landbank properties? See the animal kennel further up the Red Line.

I wish they would move the station or create pedestrian access directly on the overpass.

Is the post office just going to close or will it be relocated? Just curious, how old is this master plan?

I wish they would move the station or create pedestrian access directly on the overpass.

 

That's a little more possible with the industrial access freight track on the NW side of the right of way being removed. The westbound Red Line track could take its place and use the existing bridge over Lorain, including moving the station platform directly over the street. At some point, GCRTA is going to completely rebuild this track and remove the at-grade freight track crossing, between Lorain and the existing station. When that happens, it would be a good time to relocate the track to the alignment of the industrial freight access track to make the future relocation of this station less costly.

Is the post office just going to close or will it be relocated? Just curious, how old is this master plan?

 

This masterplan is from 2011 when car/motorcycle dealerships were closing or being relocated to suburban highway interchanges. Also post offices were being closed too, even nothing was announced (then or since) to close the West Park branch. Kamms CDC wanted to be ready with a plan in case these things happened along Lorain Avenue and they wanted to see what the market could support in terms of new land uses. More senior housing was desired because many older West Park residents were selling their single-family homes and moving to downtown or Lakewood apartments or condos, even though they preferred to stay in West Park. But the neighborhood didn't offer the housing they wanted. That's what was proposed for this massive site (dealership, post office, GCRTA bus training site, etc) -- townhouses, apartments and condos with supportive retail in a walkable setting. Seven years later, nothing has happened. So grocery retailer/distributor is moving in and offering 50 jobs. It's not the worst thing, but it certainly isn't the best thing for this site.

So if you have a parking lot just west of your building and another parking lot just east of your building, what do you obviously need more of? Why, more parking!! Good for City Planning to tell the property owner to figure out another way to solve their parking "shortage".....

 

 

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=2960&CASE=FW%202018-039

 

PARKING LOT [/member] W. 178 AND LORAIN

 

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Project Information

 

Far West Case #  FW 2018-039

 

Address: 17730 Lorain Avenue

Company:

Architect: The Rivervstone Company

Description:

Demolistion of building and establishing a parking lot as primary use. 

 

Notes:

Committee Actions/Submissions

 

Date: September 17, 2018

Committee: Staff

Action Type: Initial Plan Submission

Conditions/Notes:

Look at other uses that can be better fitting for the property and talk with neighboring building owner whom shares an attached wall to existing builing

 

 

Date: September 26, 2018

Committee: Local Design Review Committee

Action Type: Tabled

They are quite literally surrounded by parking

There's been a lot of rumors about the old K-mart property at W. 150th and Lorain after they closed earlier this year, including one about a larger Giant Eagle and Get-Go (to replace the recently closed one around w.130th and Lorain as well as the one over in Warren Village) .  Not sure if that is still the primary rumor, but also hearing that all of the businesses on this property, including Popeyes, Rubin's, the pub and the dollar store are all closing soon as the property owner isn't renewing the lease.  Just a rumor at this point.

Edited November 7, 20186 yr by tj111

So it is apparently a NY Developer who bought this property and plans to turn it into a "shopping center" (hopefully not a strip mall) with TJ Maxx being the biggest retailer that has signed on so far.

Hope so. More non-local/out-of-state investment in Greater Cleveland!

This is where our planning commission needs to step in. No matter what, there's going to be a sea of parking here. Can we at least just get it put behind the buildings so that there is some solid street frontage? Look no further than Lucky's market on Clifton. Still too much parking for the likes of Urban Ohioans, but a good compromise. Something as simple as that would do wonders for the aesthetics of this stretch of Lorain!

1 hour ago, tj111 said:

So it is apparently a NY Developer who bought this property and plans to turn it into a "shopping center" (hopefully not a strip mall) with TJ Maxx being the biggest retailer that has signed on so far.

 

I wonder if they will demolish everything and rebuild or try to re-purpose the Kmart building. 

Wait, the Kamm's CDC developed a land use plan for the Lorain corridor from just east of Rocky River Drive to the West Park RTA station. The plan was adopted by the Planning Commission. Now, it doesn't carry the force of law like zoning does, but the developer/architect team would be advised to acknowledge the planning principles set forth by the CDC and adopted by CPC. It proposed adding some outlot retailers on the sidewalk to make that intersection more pedestrian-friendly.

 

And, BTW, there's a former trailer park (West Park Estates owned by WPE LLC) behind this shopping center that's been mostly vacated, aside from a larger building remaining. I would love to see this property included in some way -- and possibly include some residential with the retail component. After all, it's very close to the RTA station. ? And it would help make up for the missed opportunity for redeveloping the Harley Davidson dealership into a TOD (as Kamms CDC wanted). The dealership is proposed to be redeveloped for a Middle Eastern/Mediterranean food distribution business and grocery store.

Edited November 27, 20186 yr by KJP

TLM Realty of New York City bought the company Cleveland OH Realty LLC, not the properties so no real estate transfer has popped up on public records. Cleveland OH Realty LLC/Cleveland OH Center LLC owns almost all of the properties from West 150th to the strip shopping center that contains Rubin's Deli/Dollar General except for the older walk-up apartment building "Marquard" that has Cowan's Pub on the ground floor (owned by Cleveland OH Pad LLC of Wisconsin), the Popeyes (owned by AES Management Corp. of Cleveland) and a couple of parcels next to the former Kmart that are still owned by Kmart.