February 18, 20196 yr Yes, it did take a few weeks on this latest floor. There were a few days lost to weather. Once the weather settles down and the garage portion is finished, young Lumen should have a growth spurt.
February 18, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, CleveFan said: This is just gonna be more fun with each new floor! Is there a timetable for when this tower will top out? Seems like it took a few weeks getting from the 2nd to the 3rd floor.,, They're about three months behind this projected timeline. If that holds, the Lumen's steel should top out in April or May 2020.... Edited February 18, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 22, 20196 yr Starting to see the building footprint and starting to get vertical ? clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
February 22, 20196 yr On 1/19/2019 at 2:00 PM, KJP said: Downtown has been moving east for 200 years. Playhouse Square owned this parking lot for many years. They didn't have to buy anything And the goal of this building is to put more bodies onto Euclid Avenue sidewalks, shops, restaurants and cafes so they are sustainable year-round, not just when the theaters are hosting shows. Moving on...... Not to get too off topic, but I always thought that Downtown was bounded by the river, lake, and the innerbelt, but apparently I was wrong. I know some people define it by ended at the edge of the CBD. According to this map Wolstein Center, as well as the buildings south of Euclid/across from CSU is technically in Central? Is why The Edge got its name, because its on the technical edge of Downtown?
February 22, 20196 yr I doubt that is where the name came from. Also the City has adjusted its "official" neighborhood boundaries for Downtown to match the river, lake and Innerbelt, so now it does indeed line up with what most people expect.
February 23, 20196 yr Missed this one..... Tower Crane Christened 'Ichabod' Becomes Star of Cleveland's Playhouse Square WED FEBRUARY 13, 2019 - NATIONAL EDITION There's a new social media celebrity hailing from the shores of Lake Erie. He's tall, rugged, and hangs out with the live theater crowd near the bright marquee lights. He's also a tower crane. Perhaps you've heard of being "internet famous," the sudden swell of celebrity that rises up around something that is shared mainly over social media. In one of the more unusual examples of being internet famous, the tower crane being used to construct a new 34-story apartment high-rise in Cleveland's Playhouse Square district has captured the zeitgeist. Rising high above a one-acre parcel of land, the crane stands out amidst this stretch of theaters, famed as the country's largest performing arts center outside of New York. Locals nicknamed it "Ichabod the Crane," after the main character in Washington Irving's story "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow." It also has its own Twitter page. "Ichabod" tweets about construction progress, weather conditions, and shares lots of pictures of the project site. MORE: https://www.constructionequipmentguide.com/tower-crane-christened-ichabod-becomes-star-of-clevelands-playhouse-square/43800 ++++++++++++++++++ Oh, and here's the Twitter feed which has some very nice photos on it... https://twitter.com/IchabodtheCrane Like these.... Edited February 23, 20196 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 1, 20196 yr wait, ichabod or frasier? funny enough, but... lost opportunity for it to be hart crane! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hart_Crane i guess construction crews aren't historians? but ok save it for the next tower - ha!
March 2, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, osu4brutus03 said: A swimming pool? There will be a pool on the lounge deck. The fourth floor of apartment looks like it is the workout room and community center, then it flows out onto the outer deck and pool area.
March 4, 20196 yr Took a handful of pics on my lunch break, sorry about the one angled shot, was trying to avoid getting fencing in the pic! (was planning on going on the PHS parking deck but they're just about at the same level at this point) Edited March 4, 20196 yr by GISguy
March 17, 20196 yr They’re not messing around with construction...is it normal to work on Sundays or is it because they’re behind schedule?
March 17, 20196 yr I was wondering same thing! This has been a complicated floor since its the patio area. They must be getting ready for concrete tomorrow.
March 17, 20196 yr On 3/15/2019 at 1:32 PM, Oldmanladyluck said: Got my dose of crane porn today... The transition from the CSU campus to Playhouse Square will be striking! ...It already is. Most boundaries between neighborhoods is artificial. Not this one.
March 18, 20196 yr ^ look at that -- wow. i wonder who is going to actually live here? a lot of empty nest playhouse square subscribers i suppose.
March 18, 20196 yr 22 hours ago, mrnyc said: ^ look at that -- wow. i wonder who is going to actually live here? a lot of empty nest playhouse square subscribers i suppose. My nephew and my cousins sons think this is a "NYC-esq" or "Chicago-esq" building and it will be a better "address" to live in than the Metropolitan. They are all young professionals. They like most of their peers are waiting to see what the rents will be in this and other new building soon to come online downtown. As I've said in previous post, each new building will have to "out do" existing buildings, which will make inventory better. Landlords of existing buildings will need to update/upgrade buildings and units to compete. A win-win for all. Edited March 19, 20196 yr by MyTwoSense
March 19, 20196 yr I have always loved the lively lights and the revelry at PS. It is New York-esque in a way. My wish was that it could be the consolidated “media center” of the city with tv and a radio row. but alas, we sprawl. I would love to live there once the hood grows up a little bit more.
March 19, 20196 yr I live there now.....Its fantastic....and the Lumen is going to make it even better. The restaurants need another 500 people to keep them going after the theater crowd goes to the show
March 19, 20196 yr The street life at Playhouse Square, which obviously extends into the evening hours, really makes it one of Cleveland's most interesting neighborhoods - and an attractive option for downtown living with a unique character. The Lumen, being the shiny brand new "it" place, might draw in people who previously wouldn't have chosen to live downtown. Yes, there will probably be many empty nesters in that group with money to spend. Having the energy of Cleveland State, with its 12,000 or so undergrad students "next door" should be a positive - (although only about 8% of those students actually live on campus and probably don't dine at PHS often.) But the prestige of Playhouse Square and its status as the biggest theatre district outside of NY, should make the Lumen a very hot ticket. It'll be interesting to see how this area continues to grow in the years to come..... And let's not forget - Mack34 will be there!
March 19, 20196 yr 13 hours ago, mack34 said: I live there now.....Its fantastic....and the Lumen is going to make it even better. The restaurants need another 500 people to keep them going after the theater crowd goes to the show That's a cool idea -- bringing TV stations into PHS. Ditto for radio stations. WJW TV and radio studios used to be located there, at 1630 Euclid -- in other words, where they used to be until about 1970 (see link below). Maybe they could be the ground-floor tenant in the Lumen?? http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/structure/id/458/rec/1 "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20196 yr I see you, Crane.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20196 yr I love the neighborhood. It's one of the city's spots where for quite a few blocks in all directions you have nice development with low street level vacancies. Heavy dining focus west of CSU which makes sense with the theater but hopefully the Lumen can bring in more non-food tenants in line with the likes of the hair salon and the tailor etc.
March 19, 20196 yr 14 hours ago, surfohio said: I have always loved the lively lights and the revelry at PS. It is New York-esque in a way. My wish was that it could be the consolidated “media center” of the city with tv and a radio row. but alas, we sprawl. I would love to live there once the hood grows up a little bit more. This is an excellent idea. Wonder what it would take to get iHeart out of the Burbs. Or even Univision, which has no legitimate reason to be in the burbs.
March 19, 20196 yr Maybe there should be a public push to make this neighborhood the “media center”. That’s such a great idea. iHeart is the big fish. They just did this in Vegas so it’s not impossible. https://radioink.com/2019/01/17/iheart-moving-studios-to-downtown-vegas/ Edited March 19, 20196 yr by inlovewithCLE
March 19, 20196 yr 10 hours ago, CleveFan said: The street life at Playhouse Square, which obviously extends into the evening hours, really makes it one of Cleveland's most interesting neighborhoods - and an attractive option for downtown living with a unique character. The Lumen, being the shiny brand new "it" place, might draw in people who previously wouldn't have chosen to live downtown. Yes, there will probably be many empty nesters in that group with money to spend. Having the energy of Cleveland State, with its 12,000 or so undergrad students "next door" should be a positive - (although only about 8% of those students actually live on campus and probably don't dine at PHS often.) But the prestige of Playhouse Square and its status as the biggest theatre district outside of NY, should make the Lumen a very hot ticket. It'll be interesting to see how this area continues to grow in the years to come..... And let's not forget - Mack34 will be there! Only about 8% live in the dorms... That doesn't include The Edge, The Langston, or any other apartments downtown. I don't know the exact number, but I'd guess close to 40% of CSU students live in the downtown area.
March 19, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, KJP said: That's a cool idea -- bringing TV stations into PHS. Ditto for radio stations. WJW TV and radio studios used to be located there, at 1630 Euclid -- in other words, where they used to be until about 1970 (see link below). Maybe they could be the ground-floor tenant in the Lumen?? http://images.ulib.csuohio.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/structure/id/458/rec/1 There are 3 radio stations in the lobby of the Halle Building. 92.3, 98.5, and 104.
March 20, 20196 yr On 3/19/2019 at 11:20 AM, CLE_Millennial said: Only about 8% live in the dorms... That doesn't include The Edge, The Langston, or any other apartments downtown. I don't know the exact number, but I'd guess close to 40% of CSU students live in the downtown area. When I was in law school there in 2017 I was told that 8,000 students live within a quarter mile of campus. I know the goal is at least 20,000 in and around campus ASAP.
March 20, 20196 yr 12 minutes ago, YABO713 said: When I was in law school there in 2017 I was told that 8,000 students live within a quarter mile of campus. I know the goal is at least 20,000 in and around campus ASAP. That sounds about right.. So in reality, almost half the students live on campus.. The total student population is approaching 20,000.
March 20, 20196 yr Peek-a-boo! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 21, 20196 yr Does anyone know if there are plans to light up the crown of The Lumen at night? I was driving into downtown last night from 77N and couldn't help to try and picture how the addition of The Lumen might help to extend the skyline. Seeing as it's not super tall, I thought by lighting the crown it'd make a nice statement and really pop out to help do that. Also, seems fitting you'd illuminate a building called "The Lumen".
March 21, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, ASPhotoman said: Does anyone know if there are plans to light up the crown of The Lumen at night? I was driving into downtown last night from 77N and couldn't help to try and picture how the addition of The Lumen might help to extend the skyline. Seeing as it's not super tall, I thought by lighting the crown it'd make a nice statement and really pop out to help do that. Also, seems fitting you'd illuminate a building called "The Lumen". What about the BIRDS man? The BIRDS? ?
March 21, 20196 yr If you go back to the evening renderings on page 1, they show no crown illumination. But, since people will live there, hopefully at least their lights will be on.
March 21, 20196 yr well this project is most certainly lit, har dee har har, but i can't believe anything called the lumen would not actually be lit up in some way. maybe someone can, umm, enlighten us on this? k i'll stop now.
March 23, 20196 yr 6 hours ago, ASPhotoman said: From 90. ???? Is this what its going to look like??? That looks 600 ft. Edited March 23, 20196 yr by Mildtraumatic
March 23, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, Mildtraumatic said: ???? Is this what its going to look like??? That looks 600 ft. That looks fairly accurate...Hanna is about 17 stories and Lumen will be 34...Well done!!
March 23, 20196 yr 8 hours ago, Mildtraumatic said: ???? Is this what its going to look like??? That looks 600 ft. It's all about perspective. ? The 9 is less than half the size of Key Tower and yet, in this photo, it looks much larger because it's closer.
March 24, 20196 yr Nice rendering! I actually love that the Lumen’s location will spread out the downtown skyline more - more big city-ish that way.
March 25, 20196 yr On 3/18/2019 at 7:59 PM, MyTwoSense said: My nephew and my cousins sons think this is a "NYC-esq" or "Chicago-esq" building and it will be a better "address" to live in than the Metropolitan. They are all young professionals. They like most of their peers are waiting to see what the rents will be in this and other new building soon to come online downtown. As I've said in previous post, each new building will have to "out do" existing buildings, which will make inventory better. Landlords of existing buildings will need to update/upgrade buildings and units to compete. A win-win for all. We don't have too many amenity rich buildings that compete with those in the bigger cities. I think we're starting to get there, but this will have a wide net of people interested. I live in a pretty nice building downtown, but the rent is fairly inexpensive and there's not much to it. The Lumen, Beacon, etc. will all have things that are fairly new to the market I'm sure.
March 25, 20196 yr ^The real differentiator in the market will be opportunities for ownership. Paying $4000/month ($48k per year) to live in bldg X vs paying $4200/month to live in Bldg Y where one has a nicer lobby or a slightly bigger whatever than the other is pretty meaningless compared to whether you throw $200k down the toilet over four years of living there in rent vs actually owning or building equity in it.
March 25, 20196 yr ^Totally agree that ownership opportunities will be the game changer. Don’t hate on the renters though(!). Don’t want to lead us off topic here, but renting works out for plenty of folk who’d rather invest their money elsewhere. My hovercraft is full of eels
March 25, 20196 yr I certainly don't hate on renters. My point is two-fold---there is a big part of the population that all this downtown development is leaving behind---people who would live there (like me) but refuse to throw money away in rent (which I did for years when I had no other choice). Secondly, owner-occupied housing adds more stability to a neighborhood. In the next economic downturn, apts with high rents will soon become vacated, which then impacts retailers and services that support those residents. If property is owner-occupied then even in an economic downturn the units will stay occupied--even if people are forced to sell, new people will move in. A healthy urban neighborhood must have BOTH renters and owners.
March 26, 20196 yr 19 hours ago, Pugu said: ^The real differentiator in the market will be opportunities for ownership. Paying $4000/month ($48k per year) to live in bldg X vs paying $4200/month to live in Bldg Y where one has a nicer lobby or a slightly bigger whatever than the other is pretty meaningless compared to whether you throw $200k down the toilet over four years of living there in rent vs actually owning or building equity in it. I agree, but [myself included] not everyone wants to rent. I was just saying that there are plenty of young professional who have well paying jobs here who would like to have amenity-rich apartment communities that you see in places like Chicago. A lot of people my age live in a place for a few years, and move on - not quite ready to settle down in one place.
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