Thursday 5 September.

23 hours ago, ASPhotoman said:

That's what I count as well.

So, assuming 8 days per floor and 5 more floors to go, we should top out around Halloween.

On 9/10/2019 at 12:51 AM, Geowizical said:

 

 

 

NuCLEus and Millenial should be in a separate category for in limbo and unlikely to materialize. Technically, millenial was approved for constructions in Jan 2018. 

 

There is also a $150 mil bond approved for a justice tower in the design phase for Franklin county that *may* hover around 300. 

^ really? they already have a somewhat newish justice tower -- i got married in it !!

 

has crime jumped?

9 minutes ago, mrnyc said:

^ really? they already have a somewhat newish justice tower -- i got married in it !!

 

has crime jumped?

 

Yes, kind of, Franklin county built a courthouse back in 2011... By building the new courthouse they were able to relocate older courtrooms into the new building, modernized, and consolidate the common pleas court operations. Following the completion of the new Common Pleas Courthouse, they were able to gut and renovate the older 1950s tower to help alleviate the office space crunch/pressures while allowing some freedom to renovate and organize the rest of the courthouse campus. Now, the new courthouse that voters approved back in November will be to replace the city court and municipal court offices located in the 17 floor 1970s concrete office structure that butts up against I-70/71 thats kind of hidden by the larger 30 story tower built in the 1990s.  

 

So short answer, nah crime hasn't really jumped, but the structures are reaching their functional life and the city and county have been slowly modernizing/rebuilding one by one to keep things moving and avoid problems in the future. 

14 minutes ago, DevolsDance said:

 

Yes, kind of, Franklin county built a courthouse back in 2011... By building the new courthouse they were able to relocate older courtrooms into the new building, modernized, and consolidate the common pleas court operations. Following the completion of the new Common Pleas Courthouse, they were able to gut and renovate the older 1950s tower to help alleviate the office space crunch/pressures while allowing some freedom to renovate and organize the rest of the courthouse campus. Now, the new courthouse that voters approved back in November will be to replace the city court and municipal court offices located in the 17 floor 1970s concrete office structure that butts up against I-70/71 thats kind of hidden by the larger 30 story tower built in the 1990s.  

 

So short answer, nah crime hasn't really jumped, but the structures are reaching their functional life and the city and county have been slowly modernizing/rebuilding one by one to keep things moving and avoid problems in the future. 

 

 

 

hmm, no. i meant the courthouse tower (the postmodern era black and gray one). construction started in 1989 and it opened in 1991. i guess its not enough space anymore.

Edited September 12, 20195 yr by mrnyc

From the kyc webcam...

On 9/10/2019 at 12:51 AM, Geowizical said:

 

Yes, I believe it is.

 

Not to get too off-topic, but here's a comparison chart I made recently that is fairly accurate (could be missing some) and provides some insights about skyscraper development.

Looking at this chart, it's surprising (although becoming less and less surprising) how seemingly far ahead development-wise Cleveland is out of the 3 Cs in Ohio. Sure NuCLEus is stalled (hopefully not for good),  but from what a few posters on this forum have been hinting at, there could be even more announcements on the horizon, hence the Unknown towers listed below. It feels to me like we are far ahead of the game in Ohio. And The Lumen and Beacon projects is a great example of our momentum. SHW would be the greatest icing on the cake.

 

Important note: Unless I missed something crucial, Cincinnati has no current developments/proposals whatsoever reaching 300 ft or higher. A little unfortunate.

 

 

 

 

You are correct about Cincinnati. There is a ton of development going on in downtown Cincinnati just nothing with significant height. This will most likely be changing VERY soon with details of the new convention center hotel being finalized this fall. I’m thinking it will be about 900 rooms or so with some great height. Anyway this lumen project looks pretty good!

Edited September 15, 20195 yr by 646empire
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Not sure if it’s been posted, but Lumen website is now active.

 

https://thelumencleveland.com/

^tx. for posting. Pretty bland website.

36 minutes ago, Pugu said:

^tx. for posting. Pretty bland website.

For now, I assume it’ll be updated the closer we get to completion.  Was happy to see the apartments are going to be nice siZes, hoping the layout is good.

3 hours ago, Pugu said:

^tx. for posting. Pretty bland website.

For a pretty bland building. A match made in heaven...eyeroll*

2 minutes ago, jbee1982 said:

For a pretty bland building. A match made in heaven...eyeroll*

Bland? I think it’s looking great. I love the lines. Gives it dimension. I think it’s killer.

Edited September 16, 20195 yr by marty15

1 hour ago, marty15 said:

Bland? I think it’s looking great. I love the lines. Gives it dimension. I think it’s killer.

Agreed, I love it.  Especially in playhouse. 

Anyone know if the top of the building will have some sort of illumination?

2 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:

Anyone know if the top of the building will have some sort of illumination?

I asked that a while back, but no one knows. It would only seem to make sense, right? 

15 hours ago, Ruken said:

Not sure if it’s been posted, but Lumen website is now active.

 

https://thelumencleveland.com/

Thanks for posting  - Love the look of the lobby and the apartment  too. 

On 9/9/2019 at 3:09 PM, MayDay said:

From today.

I like this side of the building most.The horizontal lines look good but the vertical lines on the opposite side not so much. Like two different buildings.

How many more floors do they have to go before its fully topped off?

52 minutes ago, ctown60 said:

How many more floors do they have to go before its fully topped off?

There's 4 floors left.

Some world class signage maybe?
Also maybe a dazzling twinkle effect at the top?

So the way i see there will be the white stripes on the east side of the building only, not the western side

Hope they do something dramatic with those stripes at night, now that they've been added.

22 hours ago, marty15 said:

Bland? I think it’s looking great. I love the lines. Gives it dimension. I think it’s killer.

Agreed, I love it.  Especially in playhouse.  Also emailed them.  Model unit done in March 2020 with pre-leasing. Move ins start June 2020.

19 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said:

Hope they do something dramatic with those stripes at night, now that they've been added.

 

19 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said:

Hope they do something dramatic with those stripes at night, now that they've been added.

 

19 hours ago, simplythis said:

So the way i see there will be the white stripes on the east side of the building only, not the western side

Also southern side I believe. Western and North side have horizontal lines.

Interesting...

I just drove by, and the stripes are on the southern and eastern side.  And they're not white.  They are grey metallic.

5 minutes ago, ydard said:

I just drove by, and the stripes are on the southern and eastern side.  And they're not white.  They are grey metallic.

Here’s a pic I just happened to take of the south facade earlier today. 

 

Edited September 17, 20195 yr by roman totale XVII

When I passed by today it appears there was another Crain jump at the Lumen, can anyone confirm?

If anyone in the area has a chance, could we get a photo of the SE corner of the building (E. 17th and Prospect)? It would be interesting to see what those South and East sides look like combined, since there appears to be a different pattern on each side.

 

Edited September 17, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

From today.

10 hours ago, roman totale XVII said:

Here’s a pic I just happened to take of the south facade earlier today. 

 

Terdolph was right.

On 9/9/2019 at 7:10 PM, Terdolph said:

Hmmm......

 

Kinda has a NYC look to it.

The only Manhattan caliber building in Cleveland, and the entire state for that matter, is Key Tower.

Nice looking building for Cleveland's skyline. We just need more of them.

20 hours ago, shack said:

The only Manhattan caliber building in Cleveland, and the entire state for that matter, is Key Tower.

Terminal Tower. 

1 hour ago, MyPhoneDead said:

Terminal Tower. 

 

Been to New York several times the last few years.  The Lumen fits in with the new construction ive seen. 

Dont sell Cleveland short.

 

I lived in NYC for 20 years and downtown Cleveland street scenes are often used to mimick the streets of Manhattan in the movies. There are more similarities than you may realize; just on a much smaller scale.

 

Terminal Tower was modeled after the Manhattan Municipal Building in lower Manhattan. Also, One Cleveland Center was designed by the same architects as the Citigroup Center on Lexington Avenue. Note the resemblance.

 

Let's not forget Playhouse Square vs. Broadway.

 

And then we have NYC's Highline vs Cleveland's Public Square.

 

The Lumen will also bring that NYC vibe; just need foot traffic to go with it.

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/1YcPMBhqxSuBV8rN8

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/uj6GCbNWmSRAuSSt8

The Lumen is also reminiscent of what is currently under construction at the WTC site and Hudson Yards.

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/pevQ87Y5GZRBuoJC6

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/KxcQ67QfzbHbBnKr5

 

Edited September 19, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder
Additional examples of similarities between Cleveland and NYC.

4 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said:

Dont cut Cleveland short.

 

I lived in NYC for 20 years and downtown Cleveland street scenes are often used to mimick the streets of Manhattan in the movies. There are more similarities than you may realize; just on a much smaller scale.

 

Terminal Tower was modeled after the Manhattan Municipal Building in lower Manhattan. Also, One Cleveland Center was designed by the same architects as the Citigroup Center on Lexington Avenue. Note the resemblance.

 

Let's not forget Playhouse Square vs. Broadway.

 

The Lumen will also bring that NYC vibe; just need foot traffic to go with it.

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/1YcPMBhqxSuBV8rN8

 

https://images.app.goo.gl/uj6GCbNWmSRAuSSt8

 

Agreed.  This was one of the reasons Marvel filmed scenes in Cleveland.  

My turn....

Cleveland is a phenomenal city with a very rich and colorful history.  It has rich cultural institutions and unrivaled assets, that are the envy of many other cities, and for those younger forum readers, take pride in your incredible city. While it has had and continues to have its challenges, it also has so much to be proud of.

 

The Lumen is a stunning example of one of Cleveland's world-class cultural institutions putting it's best foot forward.

Edited September 19, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder
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A couple pics I got while walking over to CSU last night

Lumen and crane seen at right of skyline photo.

Nice view @Mov2Ohio. So what are you doing on top of the old American Greetings HQ??

Edited September 20, 20195 yr by KJP

This is a nice classy modern looking skyscraper! A good addition for Cleveland!

As seen from the Avenue District area

5 hours ago, Mov2Ohio said:

Lumen and crane seen at right of skyline photo.

 

Where will the final height be when compared to the crane?

^ There's just 3 or 4 floors left so not much taller than it is now.

1 hour ago, Mildtraumatic said:

 

Where will the final height be when compared to the crane?

Not sure. In renderings Lumen appears to have a two or three, maybe max, four story Mechanical penthouse, so that would definitely add some height above the last occupied floor.

Edited September 20, 20195 yr by Mov2Ohio

7 hours ago, KJP said:

Nice view @Mov2Ohio. So what are you doing on top of the old American Greetings HQ??

Actually, it's close to one of Mayday's best photography sites imo. It captures the entire skyline in great detail.

That's a different location @tastybunns. The one that @mov2Ohio posted is southwest of downtown based on the alignment of Terminal Tower and 200 Public Square.

 

Here's another view of The Lumen as viewed from a Lakewood rooftop patio outside of a penthouse condo I just bought, will renovate/update and flip...