Hope we can get more glass towers in our skyline. I find that glassy and white buildings look less drab in overcast weather.

More glass but, not so sure about the white.  I agree with you regarding the need for more brightness, but can you imagine attempting to clean the facade (ie; Euclid Grand) of a white building after 50 years of exposure to the NEO elements? Having reflective glass buildings interspersed with the traditional brick and mortar could be very attractive, as the Lumen and Hilton have demonstrated.

 

Every new building in Miami these days is white and turquoise, white and gray or white and black, and its become boring.

 

Imagine how much brighter Prospect & Superior would be if the Lausche State Office Building were light reflective vs black glass.

Edited November 9, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

2 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said:

More glass but, not so sure about the white.  I agree with you regarding the need for more brightness, but can you imagine attempting to clean the facade (ie; Euclid Grand) of a white building after 50 years of exposure to the NEO elements? Having reflective glass buildings interspersed with the traditional brick and mortar could be very attractive, as the Lumen and Hilton have demonstrated.

 

Every new building in Miami these days is white and turquoise, white and gray or white and black, and its become boring.

 

Imagine how much brighter Prospect & Superior would be if the Lausche State Office Building were light reflective vs black glass.

National City/PNC is not looking too bad after almost 40 years. I wouldn't mind white as much as another beige building though, as I've mentioned a few times already, lol.

Something to consider. It could be that what the older buildings are dealing with are the decades of plumes coming from the industrial flats and the car exhaust from when the city was more populated.

1 hour ago, Frmr CLEder said:

Something to consider. It could be that what the older buildings are dealing with are the decades of plumes coming from the industrial flats and the car exhaust from when the city was more populated.

I think that's what it is. I remember in the early 90s going downtown, and seeing the Terminal Tower, even though its beige, look almost black in some areas due to all the industrial activity from the decades before. A lot of that activity obviously died down 70s though 80s and what exists is cleaner now.

11 minutes ago, Mov2Ohio said:

I think that's what it is. I remember in the early 90s going downtown, and seeing the Terminal Tower, even though its beige, look almost black in some areas due to all the industrial activity from the decades before. A lot of that activity obviously died down 70s though 80s and what exists is cleaner now.

Perhaps one or more of the geriatric forumers, can chime in.  IIRC, one of the reasons for the building soot/staining was that our industrial areas were still functioning and so close to downtown.  When many of our buildings were built, they were not built with the modern technology we saw starting the NCB building.

 

I know for a fact that the SOHIO building was engineered for easy cleaning.( In addition the interior building technology was amazing, forcing your to wear your barcoded ID while on site.)  The stone used and the building was one with built-in exterior cleaning and maintenance features.  The building was cleaned, top-to-bottom) quarterly by section year round.  The front of the building and atrium were cleaned more often. Anytime there was a MNF game or event that would feature the building, the building was uplit and windows cleaned (interior and exterior) Modern cleaning apparatus is something that the TT was not built with but installed while becoming Tower City. 

I just spent the weekend in the brand new Pierce building in Fenway neighborhood of Boston.... sure does have a Lumen vibe!! 

23 hours ago, MyTwoSense said:

Perhaps one or more of the geriatric forumers, can chime in.  IIRC, one of the reasons for the building soot/staining was that our industrial areas were still functioning and so close to downtown.  When many of our buildings were built, they were not built with the modern technology we saw starting the NCB building.

 

I know for a fact that the SOHIO building was engineered for easy cleaning.( In addition the interior building technology was amazing, forcing your to wear your barcoded ID while on site.)  The stone used and the building was one with built-in exterior cleaning and maintenance features.  The building was cleaned, top-to-bottom) quarterly by section year round.  The front of the building and atrium were cleaned more often. Anytime there was a MNF game or event that would feature the building, the building was uplit and windows cleaned (interior and exterior) Modern cleaning apparatus is something that the TT was not built with but installed while becoming Tower City. 

Very true.  In fact, downtown as a whole had a very sooty look about it.  

6 hours ago, mack34 said:

I just spent the weekend in the brand new Pierce building in Fenway neighborhood of Boston.... sure does have a Lumen vibe!! 

How many floors is this building?

Edited November 10, 20195 yr by Silent Matt

4 minutes ago, Silent Matt said:

How many floors was this building?

"Was"?  This is a brand new 30 story building, per the Google machine.

Counting the days till I can see this juggernaut again...

 

Edited November 11, 20195 yr by Pleco

The glass has finally made it into my view!!

Looks like it will be topped off next week! ?

That top floor is the height of almost 3 floors.

I wish the neighboring US Bank building on E 14th had a lighter exterior.   It looks a bit drab.

Edited November 13, 20195 yr by skiwest

24 minutes ago, skiwest said:

I wish the neighboring US Bank building on E 14th had a lighter exterior.   It looks a bit drab.

Another example of the need for more bright reflective glass vs brown and black glass.

Edited November 13, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

24 minutes ago, skiwest said:

I wish the neighboring US Bank building on E 14th had a lighter exterior.   It looks a bit drab.

I don’t think it’s terrible on this building, although I think gold glass would be an improvement.  Something like this..

 

Anything bright. With so much beige, brown and gray brick and mortar and the abundance of overcast skies, silver, gold, light blue, light gray; any bright, reflective color interspersed would brighten the city and reflect some of the architectural gems reflected in the Lumen.

Edited November 13, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

33 minutes ago, skiwest said:

I wish the neighboring US Bank building on E 14th had a lighter exterior.   It looks a bit drab.

I like that building especially from street level with the giant clock. It reminds me  of the wonderful post modern PPG Place in Pittsburgh by Philip Johnson. 

3 minutes ago, shack said:

I like that building especially from street level with the giant clock. It reminds me  of the wonderful post modern PPG Place in Pittsburgh by Philip Johnson. 

Check out its WIki ? 

On 11/10/2019 at 11:09 PM, Pleco said:

Counting the days till I can see this juggernaut again...

 

So I spent the weekend at an AirBnB in the Pierce building.  13th floor, 1 Bedroom/1 Bath.  637 sq ft.  Its monthly rent is $4050/month.  2 Bedrooms go for over $5500.  I'll be curious to see what the Lumen pricing looks like

1 minute ago, mack34 said:

So I spent the weekend at an AirBnB in the Pierce building.  13th floor, 1 Bedroom/1 Bath.  637 sq ft.  Its monthly rent is $4050/month.  2 Bedrooms go for over $5500.  I'll be curious to see what the Lumen pricing looks like

 

I think 1B1B will go for 1500

Wow, that's so much more reasonable........Boston is crazy expensive.  

From Carnegie in ClevelandClinicLand the Lumen fills a nice gap in the skyline

4 minutes ago, originaljbw said:

From Carnegie in ClevelandClinicLand the Lumen fills a nice gap in the skyline

If you want a nice "gap filler" from that vantage point imagine something about 40 stories tall on the Jacobs lot.

1 hour ago, Htsguy said:

If you want a nice "gap filler" from that vantage point imagine something about 40 stories tall on the Jacobs lot.

Public Square makes a huge gap in the skyline even without the adjacent surface lots.

Public Square isn't going anywhere, but hopefully that fourth side of it, will be going away soon.

Edited November 13, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

From this morning ... from the 26th floor of 1111 Superior.

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Frmr CLEder said:

Another example of the need for more bright reflective glass vs brown and black glass.

Side note, I used to work in a brown-facade building in Independence area and wow, it really made ANY weather look drab - it could be blue skies and 70 degrees yet it always looked as if it was storming and meh. I wouldn't wish darker windows on anyone but my worst enemies. 

49 minutes ago, Paul in Cleveland said:

From this morning ... from the 26th floor of 1111 Superior.

 

 

 

It may be cold as $#@&, but somehow the clear skies, sunshine and that reflective glass, make it seem a little warmer.

1 hour ago, Paul in Cleveland said:

From this morning ... from the 26th floor of 1111 Superior.

 

 

 

 

Looks like they might want to move some of the cell-tower repeaters from the Keith to the Lumen when it's done!

Has it topped out yet?

34 minutes ago, jbee1982 said:

Has it topped out yet?

 

No christmas tress, so I'd assume no

From the kyc webcam

That is glorious!!

On 11/13/2019 at 12:34 PM, Htsguy said:

If you want a nice "gap filler" from that vantage point imagine something about 40 stories tall on the Jacobs lot.

 

Even if there was a building on the Jacobs lot, the building would not be seen from this vantage point unless it was taller than the SOHIO Bldg.  Due to the configuration of PS and the way Euclid extends out from the Square the, Along with the location of the TT within the complex, there will always be irregular gaps in the Public Square skyline looking from the East.

Being at the office on Saturday ain’t always bad!

Lumen tho ??

3 hours ago, urbanetics_ said:

Lumen tho ??

 

Said it on Instagram and saying it here, GREAT PIC!

Thanks so much, @MayDay! It was such a beautiful sight. The Healthline medians/stops along Euclid can provide some epic views.

From yesterday ...

 

 

Who shrank The Keith?  ?

Are those the last beams being put into place on the top 2-story mechanicals area? Looks like it’s just about topped out. 

Early morning walk.... the Lumen has changed this view so dramatically, it’s fantastic!

Ichabod will step down from the podium in January. 

This guy has the coolest job in town right now.

And how handsome of a building is the Crowne Plaza (formerly Wyndham) 25 years later? I never noticed the lighted ring on top til now. PSF been killing it for years.

I was thinking the same thing. The new Hilton also looks good in there.   I nominate this shot for one of the pics of the year on UO Northeast Ohio - and there have been a lot of great ones! Thanks to the forum members in town who take or share these great perspectives for all us Clevelanders -near and far. 

Edited November 25, 20195 yr by CleveFan

Looming Lumen?

 

Little more then a year ago, they poured the concrete mat...... what a year!