Just now, mack34 said:

Little more then a year ago, they poured the concrete mat...... what a year!

 

 

 

I thought the Lumen was built atop caissons? Can you confirm/refute this @Jenny? 

Sounds like caissons according to this article: 

 

https://www.freshwatercleveland.com/breaking-ground/TheLumen082918.aspx

There are caissons.....I was just going thru old pics and the mat was poured a year ago.  Mat over caissons

On 11/25/2019 at 1:35 AM, marty15 said:

And how handsome of a building is the Crowne Plaza (formerly Wyndham) 25 years later? I never noticed the lighted ring on top til now. PSF been killing it for years.

And it occupies the nicest intersection in Cleveland looking west down Euclid and Huron. I like the  triangular intersections that Huron creates here and also Prospect.

1 hour ago, mack34 said:

Little more then a year ago, they poured the concrete mat...... what a year!

I'm amazed how quickly this thing went up. What a way to close out the decade that began with the E@Y building.

20 minutes ago, shack said:

And it occupies the nicest intersection in Cleveland looking west down Euclid and Huron. I like the  triangular intersections that Huron creates here and also Prospect.

I'm even starting to like the chandelier. ?

1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

I thought the Lumen was built atop caissons? Can you confirm/refute this @Jenny? 

The matt was poured on top of 9 Caissons.  The Caissons were roughly 185' deep.  None of the steel ties into those caissons however.  The caissons were for a counterweight effect of the matt.  Think more stability for the matt.  The matt is actually the support for the building.  

11 hours ago, shack said:

I'm amazed how quickly this thing went up. What a way to close out the decade that began with the E@Y building.

And barring some unforeseen  national/international catastrophe, there’s every reason to believe it will be the Roaring 20’s in development in Cleveland this next decade. 

12 hours ago, CleveFan said:

And barring some unforeseen  national/international catastrophe, there’s every reason to believe it will be the Roaring 20’s in development in Cleveland this next decade. 

A return back to the Gilded Age is not necessarily a good thing for most people. 

30 minutes ago, shack said:

A return back to the Gilded Age is not necessarily a good thing for most people. 

A fair point but the Gilded Age is generally considered the era from the 1870s to 1900, not  the 1920s.

58 minutes ago, PittsburgoDelendaEst said:

A fair point but the Gilded Age is generally considered the era from the 1870s to 1900, not  the 1920s.

Who says we can’t do it better this time? 

1 hour ago, shack said:

A return back to the Gilded Age is not necessarily a good thing for most people. 

From a construction/development  perspective, I think most of us would be ok with the kind of decade that produced the world’s 2nd tallest building at the time, not to mention the Ohio Bell Building, Public Hall and one of the main buildings of the Cleveland Public Library. 

14 minutes ago, CleveFan said:

From a construction/development  perspective, I think most of us would be ok with the kind of decade that produced the world’s 2nd tallest building at the time, not to mention the Ohio Bell Building, Public Hall and one of the main buildings of the Cleveland Public Library. 

 

34 minutes ago, LlamaLawyer said:

Who says we can’t do it better this time? 

California isn't doing a very good job this time around with their tent cities. This could happen here and elsewhere as a common occurrence  if this trend continues … but I'm veering off topic.  

I had the opportunity to see The Lumen at full height this afternoon as I merged with I-90 East off 77 North... Impressive! It really does pull the skyline eastward and connects well with Rhodes Tower at CSU. I love the contextual fit and anticipate it getting even better when completed and the surrounding buildings and sky are reflected in the glass curtain wall

Edited November 27, 20195 yr by ArtMasterCLE

31 minutes ago, ArtMasterCLE said:

I had the opportunity to see The Lumen at full height this afternoon as I merged with I-90 East off 77 North... Impressive! It really does pull the skyline eastward and connects well with Rhodes Tower at CSU. I love the contextual fit and anticipate it getting even better when completed and the surrounding buildings and sky are reflected in the glass curtain wall

We really have to give PHSF their props. They've magnificently restored the theatres, some of which were borderline non-restorable, created a new neighborhood in the CBD and developed this iconic high-rise that will set a new standard for high-rise living in Cleveland. They've demonstrated it can be done and done better. Kudos PHSF!

Edited November 27, 20195 yr by Frmr CLEder

1 hour ago, Frmr CLEder said:

We really have to give PHSF their props. They've magnificently restored the theatres, some of which were borderline non-restorable, created a new neighborhood in the CBD and developed this iconic high-rise that will set a new standard for high-rise living in Cleveland. They've demonstrated it can be done and done better. Kudos PHSF!

 

And they may write a screenplay for Lumen Act II if the leasing goes well for Lumen I.

Got an email today saying leasing office opening and pricing announced in January. 

22 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

And they may write a screenplay for Lumen Act II if the leasing goes well for Lumen I.

How many units will the Lumen have? And how fast do they have to

absorb these units before they consider Lumen II

6 minutes ago, simplythis said:

How many units will the Lumen have? And how fast do they have to

absorb these units before they consider Lumen II

 

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=lumen+cleveland+number+of+units

If there is a Lumen II, where would it be built?

15 minutes ago, skiwest said:

If there is a Lumen II, where would it be built?

 

Second article at:

http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/05/seeds-sprouts-early-intel-on-real.html

1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

Second article at:

http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/05/seeds-sprouts-early-intel-on-real.html

Thanks Ken. That East 13th and Chester corner has an ocean of surface parking. The Lot next to the Greyhound bus station ( a beautiful building for rehabilitation) has so much potential.

1 hour ago, Growth Mindset said:

Thanks Ken. That East 13th and Chester corner has an ocean of surface parking. The Lot next to the Greyhound bus station ( a beautiful building for rehabilitation) has so much potential.

The parking lot next to the Greyhound Station at East 13 & Chester Avenue is REQUIRED BY THE CITY to be developed by the Shaia family's Victory Properties, Inc.

 

They leased the parking lot from the CITY back in 2016.

They agreed to upgrade the lot by repaving, restripe, new lights, and new landscaping too.

 

And they also will be required to build a NEW residential building there in 2020-21 because of the five year time limit the City gave them to develop the former CITY parking lot. 

 

They also own several more parcels of property next to that lot and so that it maybe a sizable project.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/04/parking-lot_deal_near_playhous.html

Edited November 28, 20195 yr by Larry1962
Added CLEVELAND.com link and added more details

1 minute ago, Larry1962 said:

The parking lot next to the Greyhound Station at East 13 & Chester Avenue is REQUIRED BY THE CITY to be developed by the Shaia family's Victory Properties, Inc.

They leased the parking lot next to Greyhound Station from the CITY back in 2016.  And they will be required to build a new residential building there in 2020-21 because of the 5 year time limit the City gave them.

 

http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/04/parking-lot_deal_near_playhous.html

Thanks for setting me straight. I just hope that they do justice to the site.

But the Shaia has no experience in building a property, just in parking lots.

I think they would have to partner up with someone.

9 hours ago, ArtMasterCLE said:

I had the opportunity to see The Lumen at full height this afternoon as I merged with I-90 East off 77 North... Impressive! It really does pull the skyline eastward and connects well with Rhodes Tower at CSU. I love the contextual fit and anticipate it getting even better when completed and the surrounding buildings and sky are reflected in the glass curtain wall

And I had the opportunity to see it in person tonight being in town for Thanksgiving and catching a Cavs game at the Fieldhouse ( which looks awesome, by the way).  I was impressed with what a very big difference the Lumen makes on the skyline as you come up I-77 and then make your way into downtown approaching the RMFH. With its grid of construction lights  it had a very cool ”big- city” vibe in the rainy night skyline. As Artmaster said, it does s good job of extending the downtown sight line eastward and kind of bringing  the Rhodes Tower into one’s perspective of downtown. Thankful for PHS’s great contributions to the city!  

Edited November 28, 20195 yr by CleveFan

We have railings

Cool! The bottom one is my favorite. ?

 

3 minutes ago, KJP said:

Cool! The bottom one is my favorite. ?

Very rustic!

35 minutes ago, cfdwarrior said:

 

Very rustic!

Farmhouse chic... ?

Best I could do, can you believe my husband wouldn’t stop to let me get a photo from the Innerbelt? ?

^ You gotta tuck and roll...

 

On 11/27/2019 at 3:48 PM, roman totale XVII said:

Got an email today saying leasing office opening and pricing announced in January. 

I am very curious to see what the units will go for.  I’d expect similar to the Beacon?

12 hours ago, ASPhotoman said:

Farmhouse chic... ?

perfect for hanging linen

They’re taking down the concrete pumping station off the top

10 hours ago, Ruken said:

I am very curious to see what the units will go for.  I’d expect similar to the Beacon?

 

Are they all for-rent units or are some for-sale?

5 hours ago, Pugu said:

 

Are they all for-rent units or are some for-sale?

No idea I think rent?

All for-rent

Tenants will be moving in this spring even though completion of the building is not expected until the summer.  How common is this?

14 minutes ago, plinth857 said:

Tenants will be moving in this spring even though completion of the building is not expected until the summer.  How common is this?

Pretty normal, I'd presume - staggering the suite availability by floors makes the moving process a bit smoother. I moved into the leader building in April while the rest of the building wasn't complete until several months later.

Edited December 4, 20195 yr by Garfield12323

1 hour ago, Garfield12323 said:

Pretty normal, I'd presume - staggering the suite availability by floors makes the moving process a bit smoother. I moved into the leader building in April while the rest of the building wasn't complete until several months later.

Makes sense to get that revenue stream flowing as early as possible.

Looks like they’re getting ready to repair the damaged decking

Some of the lower floors look complete already.

5 hours ago, Garfield12323 said:

Pretty normal, I'd presume - staggering the suite availability by floors makes the moving process a bit smoother. I moved into the leader building in April while the rest of the building wasn't complete until several months later.

Makes complete sense - imagine having a significant percentage of residents trying to move in within the same week or so ..they also did this at The Beacon. 

Edited December 4, 20195 yr by CleveFan

9 minutes ago, CleveFan said:

Makes complete sense - imagine having a significant percentage of residents trying to move in within the same week or so ..they also did this at The Beacon. 

 

Also, it seems people are chomping at the bit to live there; someone has told me that the building is already 90% "spoken for."

And you don't want a significant percentage of residents whose leases are all up at the same time

2 hours ago, plinth857 said:

 

Also, it seems people are chomping at the bit to live there; someone has told me that the building is already 90% "spoken for."

Pre-leasing hasn't even started yet, so there's no way the building is 90% spoken for. Also, they can't move more than 3-4 people in per day. Management discussed this last month at the Colliers event at Music Box. 

2 hours ago, plinth857 said:

 

Also, it seems people are chomping at the bit to live there; someone has told me that the building is already 90% "spoken for."

Makes a future Lumen Phase II a very real possibility in the not too distant future. I would be surprised if phase 2 is not already in the planning process. PHSF is very deliberate and quality oriented.

Figured some black and whites went well with the weather today....

5 hours ago, ASPhotoman said:

Figured some black and whites went well with the weather today....

color or black and white are pretty much the same this time of year