With an irregular, concave pentagonal shaped lot, this could be an interesting high rise...?

Some views of the site

 

 

 

 

Edited January 15, 20205 yr by KJP

Thanks all! It would be nice if PHS constructed liner units along the existing garage fronting Chester. It is set far enough back from the street that you could hide it with 5-6 stories of residential.

The lumen looked absolutely striking in this morning sunlight, hope to snag a picture before it clouds up

Best I could do at 50mph this morning (as a passenger!) - still can't convince the husband to come to a dead stop on the Innerbelt during rush hour ?

 

 

1 minute ago, MayDay said:

Best I could do at 50mph this morning (as a passenger!) - still can't convince the husband to come to a dead stop on the Innerbelt during rush hour ?

 

 

Sometimes rush hour traffic will do that for you. ?

 

BTW, you can see some of the cleaning they're doing on the RKO Radio's B.F. Keith Building.

Edited January 15, 20205 yr by KJP

Usually about the time a semi-trailer blocks the view. ?

22 minutes ago, MayDay said:

Best I could do at 50mph this morning (as a passenger!) - still can't convince the husband to come to a dead stop on the Innerbelt during rush hour ?

 

 

 Can't say I blame him. Great pic tho.

Edited January 15, 20205 yr by Frmr CLEder

I was really hoping they'd put an opaque covering for the top layer so they could illuminate the top of the building.

1 hour ago, ASPhotoman said:

I was really hoping they'd put an opaque covering for the top layer so they could illuminate the top of the building.

 

Is the top floor a penthouse or an amenity deck? I seem to recall their amenity deck being at the level of the roof of the adjoining garage. Either way, it could be internally illuminated although probably illuminated more often as an amenity deck.

On this mid-January day

 

11 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

Is the top floor a penthouse or an amenity deck? I seem to recall their amenity deck being at the level of the roof of the adjoining garage. Either way, it could be internally illuminated although probably illuminated more often as an amenity deck.

I thought the top floor was supposed to be a mechanical floor. You're correct that the amenity desk is on the lower level next to the garage. I just couldn't see them covering the top floor with something transparent if it was mechanical. 

Never mind! I just glanced at the renderings and forgot there was supposed to be rooms at the very top. 

The site of The Lumen Act II looks much larger than the current construction site. My guess is that if a second tower is made, it will be much shorter due to the large sq ft area. Does anyone know how many acres this site is?

Just measured them on Google Earth:

Lumen site = approx 1 acre

potential Lumen 2 site = approx .75 acres

1 minute ago, X said:

Just measured them on Google Earth:

Lumen site = approx 1 acre

potential Lumen 2 site = approx .75 acres

Wow I guess I was wrong. That's a small site. Looks like the opposite is true then. Lumen Act II has the potential to be even taller.

20 minutes ago, X said:

Just measured them on Google Earth:

Lumen site = approx 1 acre

potential Lumen 2 site = approx .75 acres

 

Does the measurement for site 1 include the garage or is it just for the building?

Just now, Potamus said:

 

Does the measurement for site 1 include the garage or is it just for the building?

 

It would have to include the garage because an acre is over 43k sqft.  Just 25 floors would be over a million sqft.

They include the site, which both the garage and building are being built upon.

24 minutes ago, CLE_Millennial said:

Wow I guess I was wrong. That's a small site. Looks like the opposite is true then. Lumen Act II has the potential to be even taller.

 

I remember an article from Ken a while back saying that with the zoning and height district(6) that it was in, they could build a 600' mixed use building without even needing a variance. 

 

A 600' or greater would be amazing, plus it would add so much to the feel of the PHS, and even more to the upper east side of CLE.

7 minutes ago, NR said:

 

I remember an article from Ken a while back saying that with the zoning and height district(6) that it was in, they could build a 600' mixed use building without even needing a variance. 

 

A 600' or greater would be amazing, plus it would add so much to the feel of the PHS, and even more to the upper east side of CLE.

A 600' tower would be unbelievable. We'll see what happens.

 

If they make it a mixed-use building, I always thought it would be awesome if they built a modern theater. All their current theaters are very historic and old (which is great). But a modern one would add some diversity to the district. Building a theater on the lower floors would be interesting.

Edited January 15, 20205 yr by CLE_Millennial
Grammar mistake

Lumen 1 site is a full acre includes the garage.

 

Lumen 2 site is 0.9 acres (per MyPlace) and doesn't need a garage.

 

I first wrote it about it in a Seeds & Sprouts piece last May (second item):

https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2019/05/seeds-sprouts-early-intel-on-real.html

Hearing that 1 University Circle is 95% leased gives me hope that Act 2 will happen rather quickly. 1UC probably has the highest rents in the city.

17 minutes ago, marty15 said:

Hearing that 1 University Circle is 95% leased gives me hope that Act 2 will happen rather quickly. 1UC probably has the highest rents in the city.

FWIW for many buildings including the 1UC you can double check by going to their website (most companies websites are pretty on top of available units).  It shows 14 available of the 276 which means that it is indeed 95% leased!

Edited January 15, 20205 yr by cle_guy90

Does anyone know if DCA does any kind of survey showing/identifying where all these new renters/residents are coming from? Out of town, suburbs, etc.

Edited January 15, 20205 yr by marty15

1 hour ago, marty15 said:

Does anyone know if DCA does any kind of survey showing/identifying where all these new renters/residents are coming from? Out of town, suburbs, etc.

 

This is probably the closest thing to what you're looking for, but it is not as specific as you'd like in terms of inflow migration patterns. Their focus is more on personas and demographics of residential growth in downtown and comparisons against population trends in the area, peer cities, and other large cities.

 

https://www.downtowncleveland.com/DCA/media/DCA_Media/2018-Housing-Demand-Analysis.pdf

 

Some of their sources give more context:

 

The Fifth Migration: A Study of Cleveland Millennials: https://engagedscholarship.csuohio.edu/urban_facpub/1338/

 

This source is particularly insightful for what you're looking for:

 

Mapping Adult Migration in Cleveland, Ohio: https://engagedscholarship.csuohio.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2302&context=urban_facpub

 

Might be best to keep any spinoff conversation here:

 

Edited January 16, 20205 yr by infrafreak
extra sources, thread suggestion

On 1/15/2020 at 5:48 PM, cle_guy90 said:

FWIW for many buildings including the 1UC you can double check by going to their website (most companies websites are pretty on top of available units).  It shows 14 available of the 276 which means that it is indeed 95% leased!

Major thing to note, that's a dangerous way to base it off of. Occupied units that haven't been renewed also show up. Considering the majority of renters don't renew after a year in most markets, you will see a lot more listings than there are truly vacant units.

29 minutes ago, jmicha said:

Major thing to note, that's a dangerous way to base it off of. Occupied units that haven't been renewed also show up. Considering the majority of renters don't renew after a year in most markets, you will see a lot more listings than there are truly vacant units.

It depends some sites will say when a unit is becoming available versus actually saying that it's available now (garfield, standard, flats, etc.) but that is a fair point.

OSHA cites Cleveland construction company after crane dropped steel beams on Playhouse Square garage

Posted Jan 16, 3:52 PM

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Occupational Safety and Health Administration determined a construction company overloaded a crane last year in Cleveland’s Playhouse Square before steel beams fell onto the top of a parking garage.

The federal agency cited Donley’s Inc. for three “serious” violations related to the Oct. 10 accident at the construction site for The Lumen, a 34-story residential tower on East 14th Street near Euclid Avenue, according to a letter dated Jan. 9.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/01/osha-cites-cleveland-construction-company-after-crane-dropped-steel-beams-on-playhouse-square-garage.html

 

The article notes that Gilbane itself was not found to have committed any violations.

The E55th St. marina offers some beautiful views of the lake and downtown, plus really shows off how the Lumen extends the skyline! Already just having this one additional building bulks up the skyline’s density and makes the CSU tower feel like a true part of downtown, rather than sticking out like an ugly thumb. 

Looking good!

 

 

 

 

I haven't been able to get a good shot of it with an Iphone, but I love the way she looks at night now with all the fluorescent construction lights on every floor, and the crane with flashing airplane beacons on top.   Looks amazing from a distance!

 

Maybe someone with a pro setup can get a good shot of this?  

2 hours ago, Cleburger said:

I haven't been able to get a good shot of it with an Iphone, but I love the way she looks at night now with all the fluorescent construction lights on every floor, and the crane with flashing airplane beacons on top.   Looks amazing from a distance!

 

Maybe someone with a pro setup can get a good shot of this?  

I might be up there tomorrow and was planning on having my equipment with me. I'll try and get some good shots if I have time. ?

 

Don't forget to check out the WKYC webcam from time to time, too.

 

Upthread it was a nice resource when the construction cam stopped being repositioned.

 

https://www.wkyc.com/article/weather/weather-blog/live-channel-3-csu-cam/95-ef5b3538-3801-41eb-a178-a9cd793a7bc1

 

Right now it is dark outside and hard to see the area of the Keith building and the lumen in the cam- looks like it is not well-lit up right now. Earlier in its construction you could see it pretty well in the WKYC cam at night with the flashing glow of Ichabod the crane.

 

edit: today during the day I looked and the webcam was zoomed out with the Lumen plainly visible. this evening (with enough light to see well), it is zoomed in and has the same view as last night. so it seems like the Lumen's visibility is variable for that reason.

Edited January 30, 20205 yr by infrafreak

And the last row of glass has begun

^They got it done before winter hit.  If it does hit...

Unless one is on that "open" floor....

They've done a great job hiding the mechanicals.

Love it.. not sure if I’m alone here but The Lumen reminds me a lot of 505 Condominiums, Nashville.

 

Here’s hoping Cleveland has a construction boom this decade similar to Nashville has the last.

 

 

Standing tall and mighty in the setting sun.

14 hours ago, Sapper Daddy said:

Love it.. not sure if I’m alone here but The Lumen reminds me a lot of 505 Condominiums, Nashville.

 

Here’s hoping Cleveland has a construction boom this decade similar to Nashville has the last.

 

 

This is exactly what Cleveland needs! 

A 500’ condominium tower. 

1 hour ago, Watertiger1962 said:

This is exactly what Cleveland needs! 

A 500’ condominium tower. 

 

Sell out the one that's under construction now. Then you'll see one that's in the 250- to 300-foot range. And if that one sells out reasonably quickly, then you might see a 500-footer.

My contribution to the Lumen Love fest.

Thanks. I prefer the west and north sides. They don't have those verticle stripes on those sides.

Edited February 1, 20205 yr by Frmr CLEder

I was just at breakfast at Yours Truly in the Halle building, and some of the construction guys told me that the crane should be coming down in the next 2 weeks

1 hour ago, mack34 said:

I was just at breakfast at Yours Truly in the Halle building, and some of the construction guys told me that the crane should be coming down in the next 2 weeks

 

So we'll be crane-less (downtown only) for nearly a year.... ?

27 minutes ago, KJP said:

 

So we'll be crane-less (downtown only) for nearly a year.... ?

Maybe a three quarters of a year if City Club starts construction in the summer, but they would not

need a crane right away.

1 hour ago, KJP said:

 

So we'll be crane-less (downtown only) for nearly a year.... ?

 

Yes but at least there's still the Metrohealth and Hingetown ones (not sure when they are due to wrap up however...)

14 hours ago, urbanetics_ said:

Standing tall and mighty in the setting sun.

Love the Panamara too!

Edited February 1, 20205 yr by Frmr CLEder

Looks like Ichabod is coming down.

 

Quote

 

ROAD CLOSURE:

 

WHEN: Beginning Friday, February 7th through Sunday, February 16th.

Expect traffic congestions, bus line changes, traffic pattern changes Euclid Avenue and Limited use of E17th Street:

The Lumen construction project will begin the removal of the construction tower cranes.

Playhouse Square has notified K&D that beginning this Friday at 12:01 a.m. Euclid Avenue will be closed from E18th Street to E14th Street, except for the valet lane in front of the theaters for westbound traffic on the north side of the street. 

Euclid Avenue will be completely closed from E18th Street to E17th Street in both directions.

This closure may be in effect for the full week of February 10th-14th.

Updates will be provided when received from Playhouse Square management.

·       E17th Street: No parking during this time.