February 27, 20187 yr For a name, i'd prefer no name. Just 13xx Euclid Ave. or xxxx E 14 St. If it were a 100-story tower, fine, name it. But this is just a regular building. Its like giving medals to children just for playing in a game regardless of winning. We gotta stop making a big deal of every little thing.
February 27, 20187 yr Most apartment buildings, even small ones, get names. This has been the case for a very long time. Drive down the streets around Coventry or Edgewater and Lake Blvds and look above the doors on all those 1920's buildings.
February 27, 20187 yr I think something theather related would be cool. Like "Stage Left" or something engineered by someone far more creative than I
February 27, 20187 yr For a name, i'd prefer no name. Just 13xx Euclid Ave. or xxxx E 14 St. If it were a 100-story tower, fine, name it. But this is just a regular building. Its like giving medals to children just for playing in a game regardless of winning. We gotta stop making a big deal of every little thing. This is far from a regular building, or a little thing. This building will be the tallest residential building in the Greater Cleveland area and possibly in Ohio. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 20187 yr If this, JHB and Huntington come to fruition, then Euclid Avenue from Public Square to the inner belt will have very few gaps. Which is incredible when thinking about how Euclid looked just a decade ago.
February 27, 20187 yr But today those names are meaningless. I know, I live in one near Coventry and have written a book about named buildings in Cleveland Heights.
February 27, 20187 yr How about these? Ovation Mezzanine The Tony Upstage Luminarie Spotlight "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 27, 20187 yr Shapardson Place The winner! Shepardson, BTW. We can save the names I posted for the coming attractions in high rises around Playhouse Square. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 28, 20187 yr Stan must get his scoops at UO... Originally Published: February 28, 2018 2:42 PM Updated: 11 minutes ago Playhouse Square tower looks to get spring start By Stan Bullard Look for show time on Playhouse Square's planned apartment high-rise to start by mid-April. That is, if you consider show time construction workers starting to push a 34-story building skyward at East 18th Street and Euclid Avenue. Art Falco, president of Playhouse Square Foundation, mentioned at the Tuesday, Feb. 27, announcement of the lineup of shows for the 2018-2019 KeyBank Broadway Series that he hopes to see ground broken for the apartment tower in 30 to 45 days. MORE: http://www.crainscleveland.com/article/20180228/news/153416/playhouse-square-tower-looks-get-spring-start "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20187 yr Friends of mine toured the Residences at Hanna last week. They tell me the leasing officer they met with felt the need to be candid with them about "construction beginning within the next month" :) :)
March 19, 20187 yr ^^^Thats fantastic!! I notice they haven't fixed any of the black railing around the parking lot destroyed by the snow piles. Hopefully next saturdays show of Rent is the last time I park on that surface lot!!
March 19, 20187 yr ^^^Thats fantastic!! I notice they haven't fixed any of the black railing around the parking lot destroyed by the snow piles. Hopefully next saturdays show of Rent is the last time I park on that surface lot!! Hopefully, that’s the last time you have to suffer through Rent!;)
March 19, 20187 yr Playhouse Square to lift curtain on 34-story apartment tower; parking lot closing next week By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer on March 19, 2018 at 11:07 AM CLEVELAND, Ohio - Playhouse Square Foundation is ready to raise the curtain on a 34-story apartment tower in downtown Cleveland's theater district, where site preparations will start next week and a formal groundbreaking could take place in early April. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/03/playhouse_square_to_lift_curta.html
March 19, 20187 yr I'm not sure if this question belongs on this thread but since downtown population is mentioned I'm wondering... Is CLE population decline slowing down at all with all of the downtown residential growth, or are downtown resident just moving from other CLE neighborhoods and thus a zero-sum game?
March 19, 20187 yr Happy they added retail under the parking garage portion that fronts Euclid Ave. It seems like it’s always easier to complain and criticize, but the city deserves a lot of credit for incentivizing the retail.
March 19, 20187 yr ^Sorry, just looked on my own... It will be #11.. Taller than the 9!! WOW. Even more importantly, it will dominate the eastern end of the skyline. Everything else at that end of downtown is a couple of stories either side of 20. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20187 yr ^Sorry, just looked on my own... It will be #11.. Taller than the 9!! WOW. Even more importantly, it will dominate the eastern end of the skyline. Everything else at that end of downtown is a couple of stories either side of 20. Agreed! I initially thought it would be the size of the Keith Building. What a nice surprise
March 19, 20187 yr Good link to a site showing Cleveland Skyscraper heights. http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/city/cleveland
March 19, 20187 yr also a good list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Cleveland
March 19, 20187 yr I'm not sure if this question belongs on this thread but since downtown population is mentioned I'm wondering... Is CLE population decline slowing down at all with all of the downtown residential growth, or are downtown resident just moving from other CLE neighborhoods and thus a zero-sum game? Downtown residents are likely moving from Cleveland and elsewhere in the region followed by new residents to the region. As far as population goes, this is connected to overall economic growth in the region. More jobs = more people.
March 19, 20187 yr ...where site preparations will start next week and a formal groundbreaking could take place in early April. ... Falco expects Playhouse Square to close on all of the tower financing by June. At what point do we exhale and call this full-steam ahead?
March 19, 20187 yr ^Falco is starting construction before financing closes. In other news, Falco has a giant set of balls
March 19, 20187 yr ^Falco is starting construction before financing closes. In other news, Falco has a giant set of balls They are much bigger than his brain. LOL
March 19, 20187 yr Michelle responded to someone who questioned the height of the building...Her response: Okay, here's an answer on the height question. The architect says that the top of the mechanical penthouse's parapet is at 389 feet and 2 inches, on the current plans. The project team revised the zoning approval late last year to allow for a maximum building height of 396 feet and 6 inches, giving plenty of wiggle room for mechanicals. The Board of Zoning Appeals approved the modification in November.
March 19, 20187 yr ^Falco is starting construction before financing closes. In other news, Falco has a giant set of balls If this building leases out pretty quickly, watch for Playhouse Square to take on another development project that may be of lesser scale but still exciting. In late 2016, PHS Foundation bought the parking lot across Chester from the Greyhound station, which will likely become a development site someday. And I've often heard that the Cowell & Hubbard building and/or the Sterling Building were built so it could be topped by a taller building. The C&H building is owned by PHS Foundation while the Sterling and the big parking lot behind it was bought two years ago by Sterling Linder Holdings LLC, which is affiliated with a tenant, BlueBridge Networks. There's going to be a "next expansion" of PHS. Question is, where and what will it be? "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20187 yr ^Falco is starting construction before financing closes. In other news, Falco has a giant set of balls If this building leases out pretty quickly, watch for Playhouse Square to take on another development project that may be of lesser scale but still exciting. In late 2016, PHS Foundation bought the parking lot across Chester from the Greyhound station, which will likely become a development site someday. And I've often heard that the Cowell & Hubbard building and/or the Sterling Building were built so it could be topped by a taller building. The C&H building is owned by PHS Foundation while the Sterling and the big parking lot behind it was bought two years ago by Sterling Linder Holdings LLC, which is affiliated with a tenant, BlueBridge Networks. There's going to be a "next expansion" of PHS. Question is, where and what will it be? Lot's of city owned land by Greyhound too. There were some rumors of the Greyhound station relocating at one point.
March 19, 20187 yr ^Falco is starting construction before financing closes. In other news, Falco has a giant set of balls If this building leases out pretty quickly, watch for Playhouse Square to take on another development project that may be of lesser scale but still exciting. In late 2016, PHS Foundation bought the parking lot across Chester from the Greyhound station, which will likely become a development site someday. And I've often heard that the Cowell & Hubbard building and/or the Sterling Building were built so it could be topped by a taller building. The C&H building is owned by PHS Foundation while the Sterling and the big parking lot behind it was bought two years ago by Sterling Linder Holdings LLC, which is affiliated with a tenant, BlueBridge Networks. There's going to be a "next expansion" of PHS. Question is, where and what will it be? Lot's of city owned land by Greyhound too. There were some rumors of the Greyhound station relocating at one point. This is from a Apr 15, 2016 Michelle Jarboe story in The Plain Dealer: Parking-lot deal near Playhouse Square sets stage for mixed-use development A lease deal approved this week at the edge of Cleveland's theater district sets the stage for mixed-use development to supplant another downtown parking lot. Cleveland City Council signed off Monday on an agreement to lease and eventually sell a publicly-owned parking lot to the Shaia family's Victory Properties, Inc. The surface lot, at 1325 Chester Ave., sits north of the Playhouse Square theaters, between the Greyhound bus station and the Reserve Square apartment complex. Paul Shaia, vice president at Shaia's Parking and Victory Properties, said his family will resurface and spruce up the 140-space lot, adding lighting and landscaping. He expects that work to be finished before mid-July, when crowds are scheduled to converge downtown for the Republican National Convention. But Shaia has bigger ambitions for the site, a 1.2-acre piece of pavement flanked by other real estate that could be bundled together and built on. "I hope we have something exciting to talk about in a couple of years - or sooner," said Shaia, whose family operates downtown parking lots and has owned nearby properties for decades. Cleveland flagged the Chester Avenue lot as a development site in 2014, when the city solicited proposals from potential buyers. Victory Properties was the only bidder, but it still took almost two years to hash out a deal that involves a five-year lease and a purchase option. From the start, the city asked for long-term plans involving at least 250 parking spaces, street-level activity instead of blank garage walls and either retail, offices, residences or service businesses - or a mix of those uses. Victory will study those development possibilities, but the company doesn't have a firm plan yet. http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2016/04/parking-lot_deal_near_playhous.html
March 19, 20187 yr ^That's a different site than the one I was talking about. The Shaia site is north of Chester at 13th. I'm talking about the parking lot on the south side of Chester at 13th. But, yes, that whole area is ripe for investment. If only the city was serious about moving the Greyhound station. They talked a good game but, like anything else, show me your budget. That will show where your priorities are, and the city hasn't budgeted anything more than study money into Greyound's relocation. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 19, 20187 yr Hearing that Hanna may begin a conversion to condominiums on the heels of this announcement, similar to the phasing route that Prospect Place took. Can anyone speak to that's validity / possibility?
March 20, 20187 yr Absolutely. The C&H building has footings that can support about a twenty floor building. A developer named Wygamore proposed, in 1958 or so, such an addition. Obviously, it was never built, the victim of another building/bust from that time. It is still waiting for someone!
March 20, 20187 yr I'm incredibly shocked by the positivity in the comments!! I, too, figured people would be angry about an announced groundbreaking...
March 20, 20187 yr Absolutely. The C&H building has footings that can support about a twenty floor building. A developer named Wygamore proposed, in 1958 or so, such an addition. Obviously, it was never built, the victim of another building/bust from that time. It is still waiting for someone! Thanks. And that's the one owned by the Playhouse Square Foundation. I'm curious as to why they would want to build a completely new tower, including the expense of digging the foundation, as their first high rise. It would seem the C&H building would be a more cost effective first market test of a high-rise residential building in this part of downtown. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 20, 20187 yr ^^^Ken, I suspect that they want a garage on the Euclid Ave side. Hopefully they have discovered that putting the garage behind the theaters took people off the street and put them thru a walkway. Maybe this is their way off correcting that, and we get a beautiful tower as an added bonus!
March 20, 20187 yr ^^^Ken, I suspect that they want a garage on the Euclid Ave side. Hopefully they have discovered that putting the garage behind the theaters took people off the street and put them thru a walkway. Maybe this is their way off correcting that, and we get a beautiful tower as an added bonus! Okay, allow me to post the first negative comment here... Access to the parking garage off of Euclid is going to be nightmarish at times. One lane can be difficult enough... but one lane and a popular parking garage will be an issue - especially considering a left hand turn will not available into the garage, eastbound traffic will be a sh**show
March 20, 20187 yr ^^^Ken, I suspect that they want a garage on the Euclid Ave side. Hopefully they have discovered that putting the garage behind the theaters took people off the street and put them thru a walkway. Maybe this is their way off correcting that, and we get a beautiful tower as an added bonus! Oh I agree. And what's also interesting is that, with this new parking facility (and a residential tower) putting more walking wallets on Euclid Avenue, that frees up parking in the decks behind the theaters to support a development on the land (called the Middough Lot) that PHS bought on Chester at 13th. Or that freed-up parking could support a tower atop the C&H building. There is also the surface lot behind the Sterling Building, off 13th (which could also support a multi-level parking and be right across the street from a C&H tower). So I hope a C&H tower is the next project by PHS. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 20, 20187 yr ^^^Ken, I suspect that they want a garage on the Euclid Ave side. Hopefully they have discovered that putting the garage behind the theaters took people off the street and put them thru a walkway. Maybe this is their way off correcting that, and we get a beautiful tower as an added bonus! Oh I agree. And what's also interesting is that, with this new parking facility (and a residential tower) putting more walking wallets on Euclid Avenue, that frees up parking in the decks behind the theaters to support a development on the land (called the Middough Lot) that PHS bought on Chester at 13th. Or that freed-up parking could support a tower atop the C&H building. There is also the surface lot behind the Sterling Building, off 13th (which could also support a multi-level parking and be right across the street from a C&H tower). So I hope a C&H tower is the next project by PHS. I'd love to see some of the same boutique shops that thrive in Tremont, OC, and D-S, do well in PHS. That would be terrific.
March 22, 20187 yr From mjarboe[/member] .@CityofCleveland just sent out traffic advisory re: Playhouse Square apartment tower project. East 17th between Euclid and Brownell Court to close Monday, through June 2020. One eastbound lane of Euclid also closing. Our story from earlier this week: https://t.co/1aYrQO7VmD "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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