Jump to content

2018 U.S. Senate Race

Guest sabotage619
Guest sabotage619
in Ohio Politics

Featured Replies

 

Sherrod Brown talking up an idea that could gain ground with D's: Legislation requiring companies whose workers make enough to qualify for food stamps to pay a "corprorate freeloader fee" to taxpayers

 

I'm skeptical. This could easily lead to companies simply laying off workers.

 

Such a policy would certainly have unintended consequences of laying off workers and automating more jobs. Turn it around, is it better to have low wage jobs subsidizing the benefits of those in unskilled labor jobs or is it better to have a lot more unemployed people altogether who need a larger benefit because they don't have a job who can offset the government subsidy required.

  • 2 weeks later...

 

Sherrod Brown talking up an idea that could gain ground with D's: Legislation requiring companies whose workers make enough to qualify for food stamps to pay a "corprorate freeloader fee" to taxpayers

 

I'm skeptical. This could easily lead to companies simply laying off workers.

 

It's not likely a good policy that could actually be implemented but I think it is a good message for electoral purposes.

 

Hah!  Spoken like Trump's most cynical supporters with respect to his campaign promises. :P

You can't be all policy, you have to mix in some aspiration.  Maybe we can't get a 100% freeloader fee right now but at least we're talking about it.  And maybe we can meet somewhere in the middle.  Like when your job says "we know you can't live off this but we're getting there, aren't we?"

My first problem with the notion of a freeloader fee is the particularly high disincentive it places on hiring people with families.  If the threshold for having to pay the freeloader fee is food stamp eligibility, well, food stamp eligibility is a moving target.  You would always want to hire the single, childless individual rather than the man with a wife and three kids, because you'd minimize your freeloader fee exposure.

 

I'd also raise the usual concerns about incentivizing automation and elimination of jobs, but I'll admit I'm at least somewhat sympathetic to the argument that those incentives now exist no matter what, given the advances of the last few years in automation technology, which either eliminates or marginalizes the role they should play in policy decisions.

  • 3 weeks later...

^Both of our Senators are fairly popular at home, this shouldn't be too much of a surprise.

Brown technically falls on that list of Republican "targets" in the sense of being a Democrat representing a state that Trump won.  But in practical terms, he's not really that vulnerable.  It would take an actual red wave to take him down.  That's obviously not happening.

^Both of our Senators are fairly popular at home, this shouldn't be too much of a surprise.

 

The last Republican in a statewide election won by 8 points.  16 points in the Dem favor is a 24-point swing.

Very Stable Genius

^ you can't look at it like that when you have a popular incumbent. Plus, I expect the actual vote to be a bit closer than the current polling.

^ you can't look at it like that when you have a popular incumbent. Plus, I expect the actual vote to be a bit closer than the current polling.

 

True.  I'm just surprised at the 53 figure.  Brown "only" won in 2012 51-45 and he won over DeWine in 2006 56-44.  At a time when the state went Republican the most it has since 1988 it's still a bit surprising if Brown wins in the 15-16 point range, which would be his career high for a statewide election, save for the 1986 Ohio Secretary of State election he won by 20%.

Very Stable Genius

^ you can't look at it like that when you have a popular incumbent. Plus, I expect the actual vote to be a bit closer than the current polling.

 

True.  I'm just surprised at the 53 figure.  Brown "only" won in 2012 51-45 and he won over DeWine in 2006 56-44.  At a time when the state went Republican the most it has since 1988 it's still a bit surprising if Brown wins in the 15-16 point range, which would be his career high for a statewide election, save for the 1986 Ohio Secretary of State election he won by 20%.

 

The fact that there are people out there that consistently vote for Portman and Brown is insane to me. What are they basing their vote on? It tells me they know zero about public policy.

  • 3 weeks later...

Brown's latest ad (on Ohio jobs) sounds...well, very Trumpian ("I voted against trade agreements....").

Very Stable Genius

Brown's latest ad (on Ohio jobs) sounds...well, very Trumpian ("I voted against trade agreements....").

 

Well, he's always been against trade agreements and even wrote a book decrying them, so actually I'd say it's the other way around.

  • 1 month later...
  • 2 weeks later...

^^ The Dispatch's paraphrased headline is interesting. The full commentary by Renacci is much more poignant.

  • 3 weeks later...

Here in Cincinnati I have seen countless ads supporting Dewine, Cordray, Chabot, Pureval and Brown; but I have literally not seen one single add supporting Renacci (or attacking Brown). Did the Republican's give up on this one or is different elsewhere in the state?

I think Renacci has no chance

Here in Cincinnati I have seen countless ads supporting Dewine, Cordray, Chabot, Pureval and Brown; but I have literally not seen one single add supporting Renacci (or attacking Brown). Did the Republican's give up on this one or is different elsewhere in the state?

 

I've seen a few Renacci ads here in Cincinnati, but not nearly as many as the others you mentioned. I've mostly seen them on FOX19 in the morning between 6:30 and 7:30 am.

Here in Cincinnati I have seen countless ads supporting Dewine, Cordray, Chabot, Pureval and Brown; but I have literally not seen one single add supporting Renacci (or attacking Brown). Did the Republican's give up on this one or is different elsewhere in the state?

 

I rarely watch TV, but I did catch Jeopardy! the other day and every single commercial break flip flopped between all D adds and all R ads, with a few medication ads in between (with one notable D ad sort of being both - something about Rs wanting to take your medicine away?). I saw one Brown ad and one Renacci ad over the course of about 20 minutes.

 

Notably, I haven't seen a single yard sign for anyone other than Purvel and Chabot.

From the "things that make go hmmm" dept:

 

http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180926/senate-candidate-jim-renacci-uses-strip-club-owners-private-plane-to-campaign-in-ohio

 

A man who owns strip clubs in Cleveland has flown Republican Senate nominee Jim Renacci to more than a dozen campaign events since July, including one Tuesday after the congressman from the Akron area skipped two roll-call votes to campaign in Ohio.

 

Renacci said he paid a total of about $2,500 between January and June for the trips provided by Don Ksiezyk, who owns the Peek-A-Boos and the Bug-A-Boos clubs in Cleveland, according to campaign-finance reports filed with the Federal Election Commission.  Renacci, a four-term congressman from Wadsworth, is challenging U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, in November.

 

Ksiezyk, a licensed pilot who lives not far from the Weltzien Skypark in Renacci’s hometown, appears to have flown him to destinations across the state since at least February in a plane registered to his now-defunct company American Nightlife Magazine.

"There's nothing wrong with associating with a strip club owner or sex workers in general, but according to On The Issues, a website dedicated to documenting candidates' publicly declared stances, Renacci has consistently voted as a evangelical and a man of faith. "

 

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2018/09/27/former-cleveland-strip-club-owner-has-been-flying-jim-renacci-to-campaign-around-ohio

 

Just image how much Ohio could grow and progress if people like Renacci weren't voted into office.  By running for US Senate, does he lose his current House seat? I hope so.

  • 1 month later...

Browns remains the only Democrat to win statewide office in the last 10 years, no?  Unless you count Obama's wins.  That's the entire list if I'm not mistaken.

Very Stable Genius

  • 11 months later...
On ‎1‎/‎12‎/‎2018 at 7:38 PM, YABO713 said:

I can confirm that Josh's wife does have some health issues.

 

I can ALSO confirm that his wife's health was NOT the reason Josh Mandel dropped out of the Senate race. I anticipate the story will be out within a week or so.

 

Not related to the thread directly, but...https://www.dispatch.com/news/20191105/legal-opinion-ex-treasurer-josh-mandel-violated-ohio-law-by-accepting-bitcoin

 

Quote

Former Ohio Treasurer Josh Mandel violated state law by accepting Bitcoin from business taxpayers to settle state obligations, according to a legal opinion released Tuesday by Attorney General Dave Yost.

 

Very Stable Genius

  • 9 months later...

Former Treasurer Josh Mandel and wife, Ilana, divorce, records kept sealed

 

https://www.cleveland.com/open/2020/09/former-treasurer-josh-mandel-and-wife-ilana-divorce-records-kept-sealed.html

 

CLEVELAND, Ohio – Two years after shocking fellow Republicans by dropping out of the U.S. Senate race for family reasons, former Ohio Treasurer Josh Mandel has gone to another county to get a divorce and have the records sealed.

 

When he left the race, Mandel said his wife had “a health issue that will require my time, attention and presence.” The move caught Ohio Republicans completely off guard, scrambling to field an opponent against Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown. Then-U.S. Rep. Jim Renacci, a Wadsworth Republican, eventually won the nomination before losing handily to Brown.

 

Mandel and Ilana Shafran Mandel, a member of one of Cleveland’s wealthiest families, who married in 2008, filed for divorce in April in Ashland County – where neither lives. A judge allowed the records to be filed under seal, with the divorce finalized in June.

When is the last time I-71 turned a profit?

  • 2 weeks later...

Obviously Ohio doesn't have a Senate race on the ballot this year, but 538 has posted their 2020 Senate Election Forecast and according to that, Democrats have about a 58% chance of regaining the majority.

^Good to hear--and I hope that that percentage increases!

On 9/18/2020 at 5:09 PM, taestell said:

Obviously Ohio doesn't have a Senate race on the ballot this year, but 538 has posted their 2020 Senate Election Forecast and according to that, Democrats have about a 58% chance of regaining the majority.

 

 

Go to topic listing

Recently Browsing 0

  • No registered users viewing this page.