Posted November 9, 200420 yr From the 11/9/04 Enquirer: Building stores atop garbage dump proves tricky The Associated Press GARFIELD HEIGHTS - Getting Ohio's first major retail development on a landfill started takes time because developers must make sure the buildings don't sink or explode from combustible gas. The slow process of complying with government regulations - each step must be approved by the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency - has caused work delays that increase costs and frustrate project managers. "They're what-if-ing it to death," said Ed McCabe, an engineering contractor. more @ http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/09/loc_ohlandfillmall.html
November 9, 200420 yr A landfill outside Fort Wayne has sunk wells to capture the methane, which is piped to a nearby industry and used as fuel. There are other places where the same thing is being done. Some municipal sewage plants capture the methane from their process and use it to run engines that power generators to meet their electrical needs. I'd think they could do something similar with that landfill, capturing the methane and using it for heat and maybe even power generation.
November 15, 200420 yr dude the garfield hts landfills smell something fierce........ In the summer it's horrendous. It boggles my mind that someone is going to build something on a pile of crap.
November 15, 200420 yr yeah, i get on and off the Transportation Blvd Exit every day for work, and I can always tell which way the wind is blowing.....
April 4, 200520 yr Author Hey, hey...look what I found: City View Center Take a look at the site plan on the above link if you get a chance. It's a looooooooooooooooooooong strip mall with acres of parking.
April 5, 200520 yr Yes, and the loading docks have one of the nicest views in Northeast Ohio. yeah, seriously......
October 29, 200519 yr Author From the 10/27/05 Garfield-Maple Sun: CityView taking shape Thursday, October 27, 2005 By JOHN KAMETZ Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS - Despite the recent frustration brought on by rainy, muddy weather, work on the 650,00-square-foot City View Center project seems to be moving along well. In fact, developer John McGill said his company is still holding to its original prediction of a pre-Easter opening. It's going well. We're dodging the raindrops but a lot of the buildings are already enclosed, McGill said. The multi-tenant big box retail development is being built on the former R & B Landfill, a multi-county regional trash collection site on the city's western border, at Transportation Boulevard, but even the almost daily rains of the past week haven't appreciably stirred up mud or slowed the schedule. This was confirmed by the city's building commissioner, Bill Wervey. From everything we can see, progress is good, Wervey said... more@ http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1130431760297720.xml&coll=3
March 9, 200619 yr Square in the town to make suburb hip Thursday, March 09, 2006 V. David Sartin Plain Dealer Reporter Some folks in North Royalton, including the mayor, think they can create a vibrant downtown on about 60 acres filled with grass, weeds and six giant radio transmission towers.
March 10, 200619 yr Author From the 3/9/06 Garfield-Maple Sun: First store open at new City View Thursday, March 09, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS - If you build it, they will come - especially in such a good location, with easy access to Interstates 77 and 480. That's been the premise all along, as big-box stores began placing their footprints along the way at the giant City View retail development at the end of Transportation Boulevard. Now, following the Feb. 20 opening of the first of several stores - Bed, Bath & Beyond - the previously intangible hope of success has started to become a solid, lucrative reality for both the merchants and the city... more@ http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1141926539134200.xml&coll=3
April 21, 200619 yr Author From the 4/20/06 Garfield-Maple Sun: More stores opening at City View center Thursday, April 20, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS - Rapid progress is being reported on the multi-million dollar City View retail development at the south end of Transportation Boulevard. The new Circuit City store - set to open on Friday - is the latest of a number of big-box national or regional stores now completed. Among businesses already open are A.J. Wright, Office Max, Dick's Sporting Goods, Sally Beauty Supply, Mattress Matters and Bed, Bath & Beyond. Joining them soon will be PetSmart on Monday, Giant Eagle on May 1, Jo-Ann Etc. May 5, and Cleveland Jewelry May 1-15. Also well under way is the long-anticipated Wal-Mart store, set for a June 15 grand opening... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1145551085171460.xml&coll=3
April 22, 200619 yr So what stores are closing in the region because these are opening? When your metro area isn't growing, something's going to give somewhere. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
May 6, 200619 yr Author From the 5/4/06 Garfield-Maple Sun: Giant Eagle set to open at City View Thursday, May 04, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS - Residents and commuters can get their first look at the now-finished, fully stocked new Giant Eagle superstore. Today marks the official grand opening for the spacious, multi-department facility at 5744 Transportation Blvd. in the new City View retail development. Beginning at 9 a.m., the opening will include a ribbon cutting with city and company officials, a charitable check presentation and a giveaway of $20 Giant Eagle gift cards to the first 50 customers... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1146761372116210.xml&coll=3
May 6, 200619 yr I was there the other night. It is the largest grocery store I've ever been in. i was trying to avoid going there, now i gotta check it out cuz u said that! ;)
May 8, 200619 yr As mentioned earlier. I wonder what kind of impact this will have on Steelyard Commons? With what seems to be a better location for visibility and traffic, paired with more residents and futher development downtown, it seems like Steelyard Commons could be in trouble before it even starts. I would hate to see that land be wasted on a project that could very well be destined to become a Steelyard Ghetto. I hope I am wrong....
May 8, 200619 yr As mentioned earlier. I wonder what kind of impact this will have on Steelyard Commons? With what seems to be a better location for visibility and traffic, paired with more residents and futher development downtown, it seems like Steelyard Commons could be in trouble before it even starts. I would hate to see that land be wasted on a project that could very well be destined to become a Steelyard Ghetto. I hope I am wrong.... Actually, Steelyard has begun. Contractors has started driving the H-Pile for the Target Store foundations. It shoud be coming out of the ground in a couple weeks. There are two cranes on-site presently.
May 8, 200619 yr Steelyard has target, jcpennys, bestbuy, and others tenents that City View Center does not. It will be find.
May 8, 200619 yr Steelyard has target, jcpennys, bestbuy, and others tenents that City View Center does not. It will be find. There will be a Target at Bridgeview crossings on the northwest corner of Transportation Blvd and the 480 bridge. That project will begin this summer once those hopuses are demoed. Steelyard has a fighting chance, but it will take alot. People need to feal safe there, and not only that, they need to know how to get there via a direct route. Not many Clevelanders are familiar with that area unless they worked in the mills at one point.
May 8, 200619 yr What's going to happen to the existing Garfield Mall, huh? Yay for progress! No wonder Cleveland isn't going anywhere. Someone please put a bullet in my head.
May 8, 200619 yr ^ LMAO! I was thinking the same thing! And I think that answers part of KJP's question!
May 8, 200619 yr "What's going to happen to the existing Garfield Mall, huh? Yay for progress! No wonder Cleveland isn't going anywhere. Someone please put a bullet in my head." Yes Chicken Little - retail oversaturation is only a Cleveland phenomenon. And of course the city of Cleveland has complete jurisdiction over what happens in Garfield Heights. Retailers are the ones signing the leases, not any municipality. Want to b!tch? Send your complaints to the retailers and the developers. You sound like my ex who b!tched about the interstates in Cleveland as though the city had any control over them. Please, either get back on your meds or get a little more fiber in your diet. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
May 8, 200619 yr Chicken Little? Hardly. Take a look around--GREATER Cleveland is falling off the map faster than you can say "naivete". Anyone with a step back from the carnage can see why. The frivolous worship of new plastic subdivisions (in the cornfields and the city), the parasitic, neighborhood-killing big boxes, and the multi-million dollar publicly funded Project Plans in a region with zero population growth (and very little income growth) are all completely absurd. All these things accomplish is displace investments and spread them over a larger geographic area, leaving carcasses of perfectly fine buildings in their wake. What's going to be done with Garfield Mall once it dies? It's not the developer's fault--it's the fault of narrow-minded Garfield Heights for approving this disaster. If idiots didn't approve plastic crap construction like this, developers would be forced into rehabbing existing neighborhoods to make a living. Instead, people keep demanding junk, and the developer is more than happy to oblige. I assume you're an adult, MayDay, which also means you know how to refrain from personal attacks.
May 9, 200619 yr None of which happens in DC, huh? Only us backwards idiots in Cleveland are stupid enough to continue building sprawl. Suburbs in the rest of America are like fuckin' Paris.
May 9, 200619 yr I think Northern Virginia is one of the most inhumane places on earth, X. Suburban Maryland--let's not even go there. There are two major differences: 1. the population in the DC area is growing. Cleveland's population has been static for 30+ years with no signs of that changing 2. the inner core of the DC area is focusing growth around rail transit stations. typically, the closer-in you are, the higher the land value (which is quite the inverse of Cleveland, isn't it?) Because of these two factors, new development inside the Beltway isn't cannibalizing existing development, as is the rule in Greater Cleveland. Every new thing that gets built in Greater Cleveland is exclusively at the expense of something else.
June 10, 200619 yr Author From the 6/8/06 Garfield-Maple Sun: RTA looks at CityView for new circulator Thursday, June 08, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS - An important piece in the overall plan for the new CityView retail development has been providing reliable, affordable public transportation for shoppers and minimum-wage store employees. The solution to this problem soon may be in the works. Mayor Thomas Longo recently toured the shopping center on Transportation Boulevard with Regional Transit Authority officials, making the case for the bus system's running circulator buses in and out of the parking lot... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1149785303287690.xml&coll=3
July 22, 200618 yr Author From the 7/20/06 Garfield-Maple Sun: Wal-Mart will open soon Thursday, July 20, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS - The long-awaited opening of CityView Center's anchor business is drawing closer. City officials say the 147,000-square-foot Wal-Mart store is expected to open Aug. 21. Store employees are now putting up shelving, installing check-out lanes and preparing to put stock on the shelves. Building Commissioner Bill Wervey said there have been all kinds of rumors about why the Wal-Mart hasn't opened yet. These include that the floor is sinking and the building collapsing, but that is unfounded, Wervey said. The real reason, he said, has to do with the company's own construction schedule - and the sheer size of the building.... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1153414335110040.xml&coll=3
August 12, 200618 yr Author Also posted in the Bridgeview Commons thread. From the 8/10/06 Garfield-Maple Sun: Traffic concerns are part of plans Thursday, August 10, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS - Much attention and press has been given to the economic windfalls to the city from the recent opening of the CityView retail development and, coming soon, the $100 million Bridgeview retail project - both on Transportation Boulevard near Interstate 480. But another important consideration, too, is the anticipated increase in traffic around that already bustling juncture, and the need to avoid future gridlock. According to Mayor Thomas Longo, there are both short- and long-term solutions for that. This is a long-range thing. You don't just snap your fingers and it's done. This thing's been going on for years, Longo said. One of the things you have to understand is that gridlock kills economic expansion. When we redid the intersection at Antenucci Boulevard, we had to do that to ensure there would be a smooth flow in and out of CityView... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1155228800101070.xml&coll=3
August 14, 200618 yr The interchange at I-480 and Transportation has to be redesigned. If you're going northbound out of CityView and you want to go east (right now), you have to make a left turn. If you're going southbound and you want to go west, you (also) have to make a left turn, he said. This will require extensive negotiations and planning with the Ohio Department of Transportation, and convincing the state to come up with at least part of the money, Longo said. Another need, he said, is for the bridge over I-480 also to be widened. This, too, will require significant - as-yet unfound - state or federal funding. And therein lies a major problem: short-sighted localities expecting the state to pick up their tab for their crappy planning decisions. Maybe Garfield Heights can use their "windfall" for the necessary road improvements that their vision has mandated. I'm so tired of crap like this.
August 15, 200618 yr You guys missed this article in Properties Magazine: In the Center of it All: City View Center brings big-box retailers together at edge of Cleveland By Nancy Loyan Schuemann | Photos by Ken Krych An old saying states, “One man's trash is another man's treasure.” This rings true for City View Center in Garfield Heights, where a landfill has been transformed into a $90 million strip shopping center. Located at I-480 and Transportation Boulevard, the project is visible from the highway and accessible to residents of bordering communities, offering a variety of major retailers in one convenient location. Ten “big box” tenants like Wal Mart, Office Max, Bed, Bath and Beyond, Circuit City, JoAnn Fabrics and Crafts, Home Depot, Circuit City, PetsMart and Giant Eagle anchor the center, which includes a number of other retailers and restaurants. (The first tenant, Bed, Bath and Beyond exceeded sales expectations during its first week of operation, having recorded the most sales volume of any store in Northeast Ohio.) Over 700,000 square-feet of retail space is offered on part of the 95 acres. An office building with over a million square feet of office space is planned for the site...
September 23, 200618 yr Author From the 9/23/06 PD: Garfield retail complex for sale EPA continues to scrutinize landfill Saturday, September 23, 2006 Henry J. Gomez Plain Dealer Reporter McGill Property Group is dumping City View Center, a recently opened Garfield Heights retail complex that sits atop an abandoned landfill and has drawn repeated scrutiny from the state's environmental inspectors. Developer John McGill said his Solon firm put the 491,000-square-foot shopping strip, on Transportation Boulevard near Interstate 480, up for sale last week. "I think the center is turning out fine," said McGill, who has been working on the project since 2002. "But the process to get it developed hasn't been the smoothest in the world." McGill alluded to continued battles with the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency, which has been monitoring City View's development. The state's persistence has been a headache and could be a hindrance in marketing the property... Plain Dealer reporter Leila Atassi contributed to this story. To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: [email protected], 216-999-5405 http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/business/115900065037770.xml&coll=2
September 24, 200618 yr Sounds like they hired the finest geotechnical engineers money could buy. Not.
September 25, 200618 yr ""I think the center is turning out fine," said McGill, who has been working on the project since 2002. "But the process to get it developed hasn't been the smoothest in the world." Oh gee, sorry that the EPA had the nerve to try and uphold some standards on an ill-sited strip plaza. Not that one is better than the other, but it wouldn't surprise me to see this center lose a lot of business to Steelyard Commons. clevelandskyscrapers.com Cleveland Skyscrapers on Instagram
September 25, 200618 yr they also need to landscape around the "seepage control" clear plastic boxes that fill up with the brown liquid refuse perculating out of the big mound on the east side, across the street from the main development (next to the new giant eagle get go). they looked terrible over the weekend.
September 25, 200618 yr A mall on a landfill? As above, so below. they also need to landscape around the "seepage control" clear plastic boxes that fill up with the brown liquid refuse perculating out of the big mound on the east side, across the street from the main development (next to the new giant eagle get go). Yum.
October 1, 200618 yr Author From the 9/28/06 Garfield-Maple Sun: Retail plaza is for sale Thursday, September 28, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS - There may be a depressed residential housing market right now, but the developers of the recently opened CityView retail/office complex on Transportation Boulevard may have lined up a potential buyer for the 490,000-square-foot shopping center. Depending on who you ask, McGill Property Group's desire to sell so soon may or may not have to do with the developer being dogged by the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency for problems related to the center's being built on top of a former landfill. The Chicago-based Sekulovski & Luttner Group of the Marcus & Millichap real estate brokerage firm reportedly has offered developer John McGill $100.5 million for the property.... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1159462532246930.xml&coll=3
December 7, 200618 yr Yikes! Odors force Wal-Mart on landfill to close Garfield Heights store evacuated after methane leak; company seeking source Thursday, December 07, 2006 Henry J. Gomez Plain Dealer Reporter Garfield Heights -- In the midst of the crucial holiday shopping season, a Wal-Mart has closed its doors at City View Center. Not because of bad sales, but because of bad smells. On Tuesday evening, store officials evacuated customers after detecting the presence of methane gas. The store remained closed Wednesday as crews worked to identify the problem. It is unknown when the store will reopen, but the Wal-Mart incident is the latest in a string of environmental concerns to beset City View, which sits atop an old landfill.... To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: [email protected], 216-999-5405 www.cleveland.com
December 7, 200618 yr Rebecca Coffee, a senior at Bedford High School, had wanted to get a video and cat food there. She said she planned to drive to the Wal-Mart in Macedonia instead. In the words of my significant other, "What is WRONG with people?!" You can get a video and cat food at stores that clock in at under 140,000 square feet! And probably do it a lot more conveniently... I'll bet Rebecca pushes around one of those big ass shopping carts too, just because she likes the feel of it.
December 7, 200618 yr ^seriously. While I don't shop at walmart specifically, if I'm headed into a big-box retailer (grocery stores included), I make sure I have a list of at least 10 things I need. Yeah sure I need plastic solo cups for my keg party, but i'll gladly pay the 20 cents extra by purchasing it at the local CVS/Wallgreens instead of wasting time and opportunity costs at a big-boxer.
January 9, 200718 yr Author From the 12/14/06 Garfield-Maple Sun: Wal-Mart business brisk after a brief shutdown Thursday, December 14, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS The anchor Wal-Mart store at CityView on Transportation Boulevard was reopened and doing a brisk business this week, as store officials and consultants continue taking steps to find and eliminate a source of methane gas. Store officials detected an intermittent presence of methane last week, and this forced the temporary closing of the store on orders from the company headquarters, although no actual methane seepage from the former landfill below was detected later during a sweep of the building by fire department inspectors. "We have worked closely with the Garfield Heights Fire Department, the land developer and other expert consultants to determine that the air quality of our store meets the high standards that we closely follow," Wal-Mart spokeswoman Sharon Weber said in a statement to the Sun News before the store reopened last weekend.... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/116611835933820.xml&coll=3
January 9, 200718 yr Author From the 12/28/06 Garfield Maple-Sun: CityView not an added stress: police Thursday, December 28, 2006 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS The high visibility and proximity of CityView to Interstate 480 and Transportation Boulevard make it attractive to both shoppers and shoplifters. But both police and the mall management say they see no need, for now, to increase security beyond regular patrols. Several times recently including over the holiday period shoplifters have successfully or unsuccessfully attempted to shoplift items from stores. In one Dec. 15 incident, for example, two men loaded large plasma television sets from Wal-Mart into a car, then fled north onto Transportation Boulevard and, presumably, nearby I-480.... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1167327860270320.xml&coll=3
January 9, 200718 yr Author From the 12/29/06 PD: $100 million bid wins City View Grocer from N.Y. becomes new owner of Garfield Hts. center Friday, December 29, 2006 Henry J. Gomez Plain Dealer Reporter A New York grocer has submitted a winning $100 million bid to buy City View Center, a big-box shopping complex that opened atop an abandoned landfill in Garfield Heights this year. Original developer and owner John McGill, weary of repeated scrutiny from environmental regulators, put the property up for sale in September. He had sought $100.5 million. "He loves it and wishes he didn't have to sell it," said Mark Luttner of the Sekulovski & Luttner Group, a Chicago-based real estate brokerage firm that marketed City View on McGill's behalf... To reach this Plain Dealer reporter: [email protected], 216-999-5405 http://www.cleveland.com/business/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/business/1167385446132270.xml&coll=2
January 9, 200718 yr Author From the 1/4/07 Garfield-Maple Sun: Affects of the CityView sale are still unknown (GC: Umm...it's "effects") Thursday, January 04, 2007 By John Kametz Garfield-Maple Sun GARFIELD HEIGHTS For now, it is unclear how the sale of CityView Center to a New York grocer will affect the future of the big-box retail shopping development. However, it already is bringing some behind-the-scenes changes. CityView's original owner and developer, John McGill, acknowledged, last week, that New York grocer/apartment owner Thomas Klein won the $100 million bid to buy the problem plagued mall, off Transportation Boulevard. Built over a former landfill, CityView has come under repeated scrutiny from the Ohio Environmental Protection Agency for various problems, including methane gas..... http://www.cleveland.com/sun/garfieldmaplesun/index.ssf?/base/news-0/1167932269216770.xml&coll=3
January 10, 200718 yr Tomb With a View http://www.clevescene.com/Issues/2007-01-10/news/feature_1.html
January 10, 200718 yr I don't feel very well after reading that article. Makes me glad I don't work in valley view anymore!
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