August 5, 20231 yr 6 hours ago, Htsguy said: Developing these suburban offices into residences is like apple and oranges when compared to dense urban areas. I am in the camp that believe it will be harder and perhaps even more expensive, especially those surrounded by tons of unappealing surface parking that are not close to other amenities that you can walk to or easily drive to. The reason I think it will be more expensive is that in order to make these very bland environments more attractive, new and interesting development will have to happen in the current parking lots, and if you don't do this, rents are going to have to be much lower due to the unattractiveness of the living environment. If I am a suburban multi-family developer, unless I can get these buildings for almost nothing, I am just going to find a greenfield and build new. All this is especially true in a slow to no growth area like Greater Cleveland. There are tons of suburban apartment complexes and buildings with large surface lot parking that is free. Being surrounded by tons of surface parking is not as unappealing to people as you think it is.
August 5, 20231 yr 10 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: There are tons of suburban apartment complexes and buildings with large surface lot parking that is free. Being surrounded by tons of surface parking is not as unappealing to people as you think it is. That’s a desired amenity among suburbanites.
August 5, 20231 yr Maybe Cleveland Clinic might be interested. They seem to always been in need of more space.
September 20, 20231 yr On 4/7/2023 at 5:10 PM, KJP said: Haslams envision glitzy new Berea future By Ken Prendergast / April 7, 2023 The owners of the Cleveland Browns are trying to keep up with the Jones’. And the Kroenkes, Spanos’ and Wilfs, too. To do that means upgrading the Browns’ football facilities. But that isn’t limited to their downtown Cleveland stadium where the team plays games each Sunday in the Fall. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/04/07/haslams-envision-glitzy-new-berea-future/ On the Berea Planning Commission Agenda for 9/21, the Browns have applied to raze 8 more houses in the area of their training camp, circled here: That would leave just two houses on the northern block along Front St., one house on the Serpentini block, and no houses fronting the Browns' facility on Pearl St.
September 23, 20231 yr Maybe I’ve missed it, but what’s the large land clearing / site prep for at the NE quadrant of the 480 / 77 interchange?
September 25, 20231 yr On 9/23/2023 at 9:44 AM, Taller_is_better said: Maybe I’ve missed it, but what’s the large land clearing / site prep for at the NE quadrant of the 480 / 77 interchange? Not quite sure. They may be just clearing the land and readying it for potential development.
September 27, 20231 yr https://forum.urbanohio.com/topic/14486-cleveland-downtown-justice-center-complex-replacement/?do=findComment&comment=1123129 Posted to the Justice Center discussion
October 1, 20231 yr Legacy Village is for sale https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/legacy-village-in-lyndhurst-for-sale/article_603a4ac2-5eff-11ee-9a01-2ba6f2ef6984.amp.html
October 1, 20231 yr 6 minutes ago, coneflower said: Legacy Village is for sale https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/legacy-village-in-lyndhurst-for-sale/article_603a4ac2-5eff-11ee-9a01-2ba6f2ef6984.amp.html Carpenters pension fund needs $$$
October 11, 20231 yr Browns add more land to Berea development site By Ken Prendergast / October 11, 2023 As the Cleveland Browns and their owners continue to acquire more property this month in suburban Berea, its mayor recently teased news of their potential, still-secret development to occupy that land as an “exciting opportunity” for the community. Meanwhile the city approved the demolition of eight more houses just west of the Browns’ existing headquarters and practice facility. That’s in addition to 24 homes and a church leveled so far for what sources said would be a mixed-use development featuring a hotel, Browns- and football-themed restaurants and shops, plus sports and recreation facilities open to the public year-round. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/10/11/browns-add-more-land-to-berea-development-site/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 11, 20231 yr “Hotel, restaurants, shops, recreation facilities” …..kinda sounds like some nice stuff for an undeveloped lakefront doesn’t it? Edited October 11, 20231 yr by CleveFan
October 11, 20231 yr 37 minutes ago, CleveFan said: “Hotel, restaurants, shops, recreation facilities” …..kinda sounds like some nice stuff for an undeveloped lakefront doesn’t it? Sounds like nice stuff for an city center in general, massive L for not having this in/around the city center and for plowing down homes for it
October 12, 20231 yr 18 hours ago, CleveFan said: “Hotel, restaurants, shops, recreation facilities” …..kinda sounds like some nice stuff for an undeveloped lakefront doesn’t it? Lakefront? Lame! Berea? That's where it's at!
October 13, 20231 yr It seems like this type of stuff is planned for the lakefront. The North Coast Master Plan just did a presentation last week for the Planning Commission. The Haslams aren't putting it together, but the city and the Haslams are at least on the same page about development being needed there. The Browns have been amassing properties in Berea for 5+ years. In 2019, they increased their lease for 10 years, which keeps them there until 2038. That's where they want their headquarters to be, and any of their moves there started well before the recent batch of negotiations with Cleveland on a new stadium. As far as I can tell, they want to invest in Berea and the lakefront, which seems like a good thing.
November 1, 20231 yr Cleveland, Maple Hts projects add hundreds of jobs By Ken Prendergast / November 1, 2023 Tennessee-based laboratory services company LabConnect and local fermented foods producer Cleveland Kitchen Co. were approved this week for a combined $1.1 million in state job creation tax credits for up to 250 new jobs at facilities in Cleveland. Meanwhile, a growing Vendors Exchange International, LLC plans to move its offices and manufacturing facilities from a western suburb to Maple Heights where it will expand to more than 70 jobs, thanks to financial support from Maple Heights. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/01/cleveland-maple-hts-projects-add-hundreds-of-jobs/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 11, 20231 yr On 10/11/2023 at 1:47 PM, KJP said: Browns add more land to Berea development site By Ken Prendergast / October 11, 2023 As the Cleveland Browns and their owners continue to acquire more property this month in suburban Berea, its mayor recently teased news of their potential, still-secret development to occupy that land as an “exciting opportunity” for the community. Meanwhile the city approved the demolition of eight more houses just west of the Browns’ existing headquarters and practice facility. That’s in addition to 24 homes and a church leveled so far for what sources said would be a mixed-use development featuring a hotel, Browns- and football-themed restaurants and shops, plus sports and recreation facilities open to the public year-round. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/10/11/browns-add-more-land-to-berea-development-site/ I drove by this site today and there was a lot of heavy machinery on the lot and most of the trees were down:
November 26, 20231 yr Rocky River ain’t cheap … near Bradstreet’s Landing … new construction: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/22700-Lake-Rd-503-Rocky-River-OH-44116/2082289126_zpid/
November 26, 20231 yr 3 hours ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: Rocky River ain’t cheap … near Bradstreet’s Landing … new construction: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/22700-Lake-Rd-503-Rocky-River-OH-44116/2082289126_zpid/ What's with the black & white interior walls and cabinets? It looks too sterile for a 2+M home.
November 26, 20231 yr If I am spending more than $2.5 million for a new construction condo I want to be able to pick out my own finishes and fixtures.
November 30, 20231 yr Holy cow! Here comes another one!! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 30, 20231 yr On 11/1/2023 at 5:40 PM, KJP said: Cleveland, Maple Hts projects add hundreds of jobs By Ken Prendergast / November 1, 2023 Tennessee-based laboratory services company LabConnect and local fermented foods producer Cleveland Kitchen Co. were approved this week for a combined $1.1 million in state job creation tax credits for up to 250 new jobs at facilities in Cleveland. Meanwhile, a growing Vendors Exchange International, LLC plans to move its offices and manufacturing facilities from a western suburb to Maple Heights where it will expand to more than 70 jobs, thanks to financial support from Maple Heights. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/01/cleveland-maple-hts-projects-add-hundreds-of-jobs/ What's up with Brooklyn that they are getting "poached" within the county? Ken, any significance to LabConnect moving into Comella's building? Cadillac Music being, well.....
November 30, 20231 yr ^ That's the old Cook United building. I worked there from the mid 70s until 1987 when they shut down.
November 30, 20231 yr Park Place Tech to buy Progressive’s Alpha campus By Ken Prendergast / November 30, 2023 Fast-growing Park Place Technologies, with nearly 500 employees in Greater Cleveland, has found a new, larger home after an extensive search that included expanding into a neighboring building or moving to downtown Cleveland. In fact, the property ultimately favored by the global data center and networking optimization firm matched the company’s requirements almost exactly. However, a title has yet to transfer to Park Place Technologies or any affiliates. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/30/park-place-tech-to-buy-progressives-alpha-campus/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 30, 20231 yr 21 minutes ago, KJP said: Park Place Tech to buy Progressive’s Alpha campus By Ken Prendergast / November 30, 2023 Fast-growing Park Place Technologies, with nearly 500 employees in Greater Cleveland, has found a new, larger home after an extensive search that included expanding into a neighboring building or moving to downtown Cleveland. In fact, the property ultimately favored by the global data center and networking optimization firm matched the company’s requirements almost exactly. However, a title has yet to transfer to Park Place Technologies or any affiliates. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2023/11/30/park-place-tech-to-buy-progressives-alpha-campus/ Cool, good to see these being put to productive use!
November 30, 20231 yr 1 hour ago, LibertyBlvd said: ^ That's the old Cook United building. I worked there from the mid 70s until 1987 when they shut down. Biggest employer in Maple Heights at one time, we were second. Were you there when the tanks blew up and one went through the steel warehouse door across the street? I saw one of them go straight up, I lived about a mile south.
November 30, 20231 yr 24 minutes ago, E Rocc said: Were you there when the tanks blew up and one went through the steel warehouse door across the street? I saw one of them go straight up, I lived about a mile south. I don't remember that. It must have happened before I was there.
November 30, 20231 yr 4 minutes ago, WindyBuckeye said: That is the most boring suburban office campus. unfortunately that's the type of environment and campus the company and more importantly the employees want. Can't imagine the protest and backlash Parker would have gotten from their employees if they announced a move to downtown, especially in the former Plain Dealer building.
November 30, 20231 yr 22 minutes ago, AsDustinFoxWouldSay said: unfortunately that's the type of environment and campus the company and more importantly the employees want. Can't imagine the protest and backlash Parker would have gotten from their employees if they announced a move to downtown, especially in the former Plain Dealer building. If it was, why do fewer than 9 percent (850 of 9,500) of Progressive's employees want to be in the offices that Progressive provides? I spoke to one of their HR-recruiting guys and the only way they can get people to work for Progressive is if they work from home 100 percent of the time. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 1, 20231 yr 19 hours ago, KJP said: If it was, why do fewer than 9 percent (850 of 9,500) of Progressive's employees want to be in the offices that Progressive provides? I spoke to one of their HR-recruiting guys and the only way they can get people to work for Progressive is if they work from home 100 percent of the time. The percentage would be the same working downtown, I suspect. Especially since so many of them work odd hours.
December 1, 20231 yr 14 minutes ago, E Rocc said: The percentage would be the same working downtown, I suspect. Especially since so many of them work odd hours. Correct. In fact it is about the same proportion at their downtown office in the Warehouse district. At this point it's really a negotiating tactic for employees/employers, at least the ones that are not SW. Although the younger employees do tend to want to be in an office downtown more than the older ones. Edited December 1, 20231 yr by willyboy
December 1, 20231 yr 17 minutes ago, willyboy said: Correct. In fact it is about the same proportion at their downtown office in the Warehouse district. At this point it's really a negotiating tactic for employees/employers, at least the ones that are not SW. Although the younger employees do tend to want to be in an office downtown more than the older ones. In the warehouse district? Of course they do.
December 1, 20231 yr 57 minutes ago, E Rocc said: The percentage would be the same working downtown, I suspect. If they ever go hybrid I could see more working downtown someday. Edited December 1, 20231 yr by Clefan98
December 1, 20231 yr Berea making a fair amount of news today; conducting a transportation study covering downtown and considering a TIF district in the industrial corridor to fund infrastructure improvements. (Links to full stories in headlines). Transportation study targets downtown Berea: Community Voices Published: Dec. 01, 2023 By Linda G. Kramer, City of Berea BEREA, Ohio -- A five-month study of transportation issues will focus on downtown Berea. The study area is bounded by Bagley Road on the north, Monroe Street to the south, Prospect Street to the west and part of Eastland Road on the west. The study is fully funded by the Northeast Ohio Areawide Coordinating Agency (NOACA) through its Transportation for Livable Cities Initiative. Berea considers TIF district in industrial corridor Published: Dec. 01, 2023 By Beth Mlady, Special to cleveland.com BEREA, Ohio -- City Council is considering legislation to institute a TIF (tax-increment financing) district to assist with public infrastructure improvements on six parcels along the Berea industrial corridor and on a portion of Bagley Road. It is not tax abatement, municipal finance adviser Matt Stuczynski stressed at council’s Nov. 20 meeting, where the proposed ordinance received its first of three public readings. ... According to the legislation, the public infrastructure improvements must “be declared to be a public purpose and … directly benefit the parcels,” such as roadways, utilities, stormwater systems, etc.
December 4, 20231 yr ^ it was the dumbest thing for them not to take that rta rapid extension when it was offered. maybe it can be revived.
December 6, 20231 yr On 12/4/2023 at 2:26 PM, mrnyc said: ^ it was the dumbest thing for them not to take that rta rapid extension when it was offered. maybe it can be revived. The county should make the RTA extension a provision of any public money kicked in towards a Browns practice villiage (which should just be built downtown IMO)
December 8, 20231 yr Excavation work on the Hilliard Road site in Rocky River that burned down 2 years ago
January 16, 20241 yr https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/bay-village-explores-potential-lakefront-plan-designs-at-popular-park?fbclid=IwAR09bDHeaNVEQ7GOiQyeFBEES6kPjS4y0nJeSon6_H0AsG-X85VloAXqEmk_aem_AcpB3oxZwr-CzLsyKuHmpMmFDAhS3tBF7qFiPYa0c8P40zfSDQhhSctDlYECBWljAqw Bay looking to redo another park on the lake
February 2, 20241 yr https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/01/tired-of-house-on-top-of-house-developments-olmsted-falls-city-council-examining-housing-density.html?outputType=amp Lol , you've gotta be kidding me. Olmsted Falls city council is concerned the city is becoming overdeveloped and too dense. They're proposing reducing the maximum units per acre from 7 down to 5 🙄
February 2, 20241 yr 21 minutes ago, dastler said: https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/01/tired-of-house-on-top-of-house-developments-olmsted-falls-city-council-examining-housing-density.html?outputType=amp Lol , you've gotta be kidding me. Olmsted Falls city council is concerned the city is becoming overdeveloped and too dense. They're proposing reducing the maximum units per acre from 7 down to 5 🙄 What is so crazy about this?
February 2, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Ineffable_Matt said: What is so crazy about this? I agree I don’t think this is crazy what’s crazy is the price they’ll charge you to have your home in suburbs right up against someone else’s, for me personally I don’t see the point to live in a suburb if I’m living in a urban like density environment with none of the benefits Edited February 2, 20241 yr by BoomerangCleRes
February 2, 20241 yr 44 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: I agree I don’t think this is crazy what’s crazy is the price they’ll charge you to have your home in suburbs right up against someone else’s, for me personally I don’t see the point to live in a suburb if I’m living is urban like density environment with none of the benefits Yeah, this has always confused me. It's the worst of both worlds.
February 2, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, dastler said: https://www.cleveland.com/community/2024/01/tired-of-house-on-top-of-house-developments-olmsted-falls-city-council-examining-housing-density.html?outputType=amp Lol , you've gotta be kidding me. Olmsted Falls city council is concerned the city is becoming overdeveloped and too dense. They're proposing reducing the maximum units per acre from 7 down to 5 🙄 If I can offer a different perspective: I grew up in Olmsted Township/Falls. When I was small, there were still open fields across MacKenzie Road. By the time I was in middle school, the Villages of Lakeside was a massive development which we moved into. We went from having a tiny house on nearly an acre of land to having a big house built on a postage stamp. The experience sucked (for a lot of reasons). I feel like one of the only benefits to suburbs is their openness. As an adult, I prefer urban density, but those big developments destroy the distinct culture that small communities like Olmsted Falls once had. Sorry to editorialize, but I feel like these places should be allowed to stay quiet little burbs, and cities should add housing at multiple income levels so people can afford to live in the city proper. This gives people a choice of what kind of lifestyle to embrace. However, it feels like every West Side suburb looks enviously at Crocker Park and prioritizes development over the community they already serve. Stretching our region to past the borders of Cuyahoga County is counter-productive to regional stability, and it homogenizes the individual communities rather than helping them really grow. Edited February 2, 20241 yr by Chris314
February 2, 20241 yr 51 minutes ago, BoomerangCleRes said: I agree I don’t think this is crazy what’s crazy is the price they’ll charge you to have your home in suburbs right up against someone else’s, for me personally I don’t see the point to live in a suburb if I’m living in urban like density environment with none of the benefits *Edit my mistake didn’t mean to quote and post Edited February 2, 20241 yr by BoomerangCleRes
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