September 22, 20213 yr i am in Nashville today for work and lost count of the cranes. I would guess between Downtown and West End there are no less that 14. Someday Cleveland! 😜
October 14, 20213 yr Headed to Nashville for the first time in my life this weekend for a bachelor / bachelorette event. I anticipate parking lots, empty glass condo buildings, streets without sidewalks, and a general utter lack of character, and I'm excited to post snarky comments about it upon my return. I'll also ride their transit system so I can see where India Birdsong came from. Edited October 14, 20213 yr by mu2010
October 14, 20213 yr ^… but, but, they have bars where people are playing live music!! My hovercraft is full of eels
October 14, 20213 yr 8 hours ago, mu2010 said: Headed to Nashville for the first time in my life this weekend for a bachelor / bachelorette event. I anticipate parking lots, empty glass condo buildings, streets without sidewalks, and a general utter lack of character, and I'm excited to post snarky comments about it upon my return. I'll also ride their transit system so I can see where India Birdsong came from. Nashville bachelorette parties are often crazier than LA or Vegas LOL. There's a reason people arrive from out of town. Though "my divorce is final" weekends may top them.
October 14, 20213 yr 2 hours ago, E Rocc said: Nashville bachelorette parties are often crazier than LA or Vegas LOL. There's a reason people arrive from out of town. Though "my divorce is final" weekends may top them. I'm like 7-10 years older than most of the gang so hopefully I survive!
October 14, 20213 yr 58 minutes ago, mu2010 said: I'm like 7-10 years older than most of the gang so hopefully I survive! I was just there 2 weeks ago and actually walked around on Broadway and went to a few bars. If you're worried about covid, this is not the place for you. No masks, no distancing, no Effs given. Also pro tip: If you're going to Tootsies, enter through the alley behind it by the Ryman. Never a line.
November 30, 20231 yr pics, renders and video of what this developer has built and has planned: https://www.giarratana.com/
November 30, 20231 yr 1010 church underway — 1010 Church | 750 FT | 60 FLOORS via urbanplanner render —
December 1, 20231 yr Nashville studies transit/traffic improvements for two years, comes up with no plan: https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/local/davidson/2023/12/01/nashville-department-of-transportation-mayor-freddie-oconnell-tackling-transit-transportation/71743062007/ There is no hope for this place without going underground. The article hints that a transit tax might be on the November 2024 ballot. With the east bank soon to be torn up for a new stadium and new development, the time to do something big is now.
December 2, 20231 yr If ever there was a city that needs a train from the airport to downtown it's Nashville. Would alleviate so much congestion getting in and out of BNA.
December 24, 20231 yr new stadium news -- https://mtsunews.com/mtsu-alumni-help-build-titans-stadium/ https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2023/11/17/tennessee-titans-nissan-stadium-naming-rights-agreement.aspx
March 12, 20241 yr Principal of Moeller High School parties too hard in Nashville: https://www.wlwt.com/article/archbishop-moeller-high-school-president-arrested-hyzdu/60165472
March 12, 20241 yr All that hair metal you hear down there nowadays instead of country probably made him want to harass thise women
April 29, 20241 yr Nashville Is Booming. Locals Fret About Their Future in Music City. Story by Cameron McWhirter, Mariah Timms ASHVILLE, Tennessee—Remacia Smith watches her children play in a grassy park by the Cumberland River, not far from where software giant Oracle said last week it would base its new headquarters. It is bittersweet—her hometown is thriving, but it has reached a point where it no longer works for her. With skyrocketing housing prices in the city, Smith recently fled to the suburbs. It is where she could find a home she could afford for her and five children. “It almost doesn’t look like Nashville anymore,” she said, as she watched her children frolic in the same park where she played as a child. “Whew Lord, I wish people would stop moving here.” https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nashville-is-booming-locals-fret-about-their-future-in-music-city/ar-AA1nNL2Z
April 29, 20241 yr On 3/12/2024 at 1:47 PM, GCrites said: All that hair metal you hear down there nowadays instead of country probably made him want to harass thise women Buckcherry Rock Hall after-party.
May 12, 20241 yr i just don't get what the attraction is for this godawful place, but anyway -- a new one in the works -- New details, renderings revealed for downtown St. Regis hotel By Sophia Young – Reporter, Nashville Business Journal May 10, 2024 New details and renderings have emerged surrounding plans for a St. Regis Hotel in downtown Nashville. If the project comes to fruition, the hotel and condominium tower would rank among Nashville's tallest. Here's how high it will rise and why it's set to be an "iconic presence in the Nashville skyline." more: https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/news/2024/05/10/st-regis-hotel-nashville-renderings-turnberry.html
May 28, 20241 yr this ymca tower is now u/c — 750’/60fl — https://www.nashvillepost.com/business/development/notes-progress-made-related-to-planned-y-tower/article_d80c7958-d558-11ec-abba-539e1254078f.html 1000 Church St. Courtesy of Giarratana, Goettsch
June 5, 20241 yr again, i sure as hell don’t get it, but its real — Boomtown in red state explodes by nearly 100 people PER DAY - with locals warning 'it's just not the same' By Isabelle Stanley For Dailymail.Com 04 Jun 2024 A red state city's population boomed by nearly 100 people a day last year as locals warn 'it's just not the same'. In 2023, Nashville's population swelled by 86 people a day on average according to the Nashville Area Chamber of Commerce. It's part of a wider trend across Tennessee, which saw a 1.1 percent increase in population from 2022 to 2023, with people drawn by affordable housing and low taxes. But locals have warned the ballooning number of residents has had negative knock-on effects for the city, saying 'it's just not the same'. more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13494213/Boomtown-red-state-explodes-nearly-100-people-DAY-locals-warning-just-not-same.html
June 6, 20241 yr 15 hours ago, mrnyc said: A red state city's population boomed by nearly 100 people a day last year as locals warn 'it's just not the same'. In 2023, Nashville's population swelled by 86 people a day on average according to the Nashville Area Chamber of Commerce. 86 isn't "nearly" 100, and it's not as impressive as it sounds. 31,000 per year, or 310,000 per decade, is a count that I think a lot of people can grasp. However, if 5,000 per year are super-rich, meaning 50,000 super-rich people show up over the course of ten years, then that changes things much more than a similar count of people with a wealth profile similar to what is already there.
June 6, 20241 yr ^ obviously its just a rounded number — there isnt much difference between 310k and 365k. either way is impressive — especially for a place like this.
June 26, 2024Jun 26 A veteran Nashville musician predicts the demise of Nashville's music scene because the entire metro has become too expensive for working musicians: Except he doesn't recognize that the young bands are often comprised of rich kids who will never have to work. So it's bands of trust funders playing for crowds of trust funders.
June 26, 2024Jun 26 A friend of mine has worked a lot of Warped Tours when they came to Cincinnati. The bands that were getting paid to be on the tour from working acted totally different than the ones that paid to be there.
August 16, 2024Aug 16 the alcove aka 900 church is complete -- and the 'vuhl has fairly quickly got some actual architecture (take notes toronto and austin lol) -- 418'/34fl via haif
August 16, 2024Aug 16 but wait, there's more that looks about done ... albion in the gulch 272'/20fl via clarkconstruction
August 16, 2024Aug 16 Say what you want about Nash, but I'd love to see some of this action in Cincinnati. Our skyline looks like a relic next to Nash...OUR beloved relic, but a relic. /rant
August 16, 2024Aug 16 6 minutes ago, Rabbit Hash said: Say what you want about Nash, but I'd love to see some of this action in Cincinnati. Our skyline looks like a relic next to Nash...OUR beloved relic, but a relic. /rant Nashville has almost zero old buildings to renovate because...it has almost zero old buildings. No old factories, no old office buildings, no big old hotels. Cincinnati has had 20+ large old buildings renovated into apartments and hotels over the past 10 years.
August 16, 2024Aug 16 Just now, Lazarus said: Nashville has almost zero old buildings to renovate because...it has almost zero old buildings. No old factories, no old office buildings, no big old hotels. Cincinnati has had 20+ large old buildings renovated into apartments and hotels over the past 10 years. I'm aware. Y'all have made me just so. The signs of growth just aren't as evident.
August 25, 2024Aug 25 On 8/16/2024 at 12:52 PM, Rabbit Hash said: I'm aware. Y'all have made me just so. The signs of growth just aren't as evident. As much as I want Cincy to explode like Nashville/Austin has. I could not even imagine the disaster with traffic that would ensue. We also don’t have nearly as much empty space downtown as Nashville and Austin have so getting taller buildings would have to sacrifice some smaller/maybe historic buildings. Our best bet for new high rises are convention hotel (already planned). Parking lots south of the casino. Parking lots south of Kroger store. Joseph auto group parking lots (f*ck you Joseph). FC Cincy development (fingers crossed that 19 story tower actually happens). We know for a fact we’ll never see anything of height in OTR/West End.
August 26, 2024Aug 26 5 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: As much as I want Cincy to explode like Nashville/Austin has. I could not even imagine the disaster with traffic that would ensue. We also don’t have nearly as much empty space downtown as Nashville and Austin have so getting taller buildings would have to sacrifice some smaller/maybe historic buildings. Our best bet for new high rises are convention hotel (already planned). Parking lots south of the casino. Parking lots south of Kroger store. Joseph auto group parking lots (f*ck you Joseph). FC Cincy development (fingers crossed that 19 story tower actually happens). We know for a fact we’ll never see anything of height in OTR/West End. The Gulch/Pie Town was basically Queensgate before it blew up. Queensgate is your answer, if you want Cincinnati to NashVegas itself. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
August 29, 2024Aug 29 On 8/25/2024 at 3:39 PM, Ucgrad2015 said: As much as I want Cincy to explode like Nashville/Austin has. I could not even imagine the disaster with traffic that would ensue. We also don’t have nearly as much empty space downtown as Nashville and Austin have so getting taller buildings would have to sacrifice some smaller/maybe historic buildings. No, I think that Nashville is doomed to having significantly worse traffic. They will be forever be hamstrung by all sorts of weird pinch points, odd intersections, and very narrow streets, but without all of the alternative routes that Cincinnati has. What's really weird is how Broadway doesn't cross the river. Their one wide street just...dead-ends kind of like Eggleston Ave. I've never read an explanation for why no bridge was built there, but I believe it's because that was the downtown's old public landing and a bridge approach would block it. Now a bridge approach would physically block all of the pedestrian activity + the wide street's duel role as a "square" when shut down for large events.
September 4, 2024Sep 4 more on the new tallest — Goettsch Partners designs Nashville's tallest skyscraper with "subtle" facets Ben Dreith | 2 September 2024 Architecture studio Goettsch Partners has unveiled the design of the Paramount skyscraper , which is set to be the tallest skyscraper in Nashville, Tennessee. Construction recently began on the Paramount skyscraper, which is planned to reach 60 storeys and stand 750 feet tall (229 metres) upon completion, unseating the 617-foot-tall (188 metres) AT&T Building. The skyscraper will be constructed on an L-shaped plot on Church Street in Downtown Nashville, on the site of a YMCA, aspects of which will be kept in the renovation. https://www.dezeen.com/2024/09/02/nashville-tallest-skyscraper-goettsch-partners/ Goettsch Partners has designed Nashville's tallest skyscraper It has a faceted facade that taper to create a "crown" at the top Edited September 4, 2024Sep 4 by mrnyc
September 4, 2024Sep 4 Very 1980's. Looks like PPG in Pitt meets a take on incorporating a subtle nod to the twin towers trident at the top.
September 4, 2024Sep 4 On 8/29/2024 at 12:38 AM, Lazarus said: No, I think that Nashville is doomed to having significantly worse traffic. They will be forever be hamstrung by all sorts of weird pinch points, odd intersections, and very narrow streets, but without all of the alternative routes that Cincinnati has. In a meeting last night Columbus leadership were using Nashville as an example that went too far with minimal transit and car culture-oriented growth therefore being unable to recover.
September 5, 2024Sep 5 12 hours ago, GCrites said: In a meeting last night Columbus leadership were using Nashville as an example that went too far with minimal transit and car culture-oriented growth therefore being unable to recover. I agree, but Columbus is laid out in a much more logical manner than Nashville. It has radial avenues that converge in a pretty orderly way in the downtown, a loop highway that is a sensible distance from downtown, plus a lot of alternative routes between points A and B and C. Nashville definitely doesn't have any of that. Everything within a 2-mile radius of downtown is disjointed and underwhelming. There is no loop highway and the suburban lateral roads, with the exception of Old Hickory, don't serve any larger regional strategy. That means that many lateral moves around the metro require coming into downtown and then back out.
September 5, 2024Sep 5 Nashville did an excellent job of leveraging its mild climate & music/arts scene into a booming economy. While it the city's infrastructure is terrible, its narrow streets & even the inner loop's highway barrier have - thus far - been working in favor of Nashville. Narrow streets slow traffic, making things feel pleasant for pedestrians & adding to the quality of the urban environment. The inner loop works with those narrow streets to create a development boundary. Property values are very high in Downtown Nashville for at least three reasons that I see: The arts scene & all of the economic activity that brings. The narrow streets inadvertently provide a decent experience for pedestrians, which turns out to be an inadvertent value add for residents. The infrastructure makes getting between Downtown & the rest of Nashville so difficult that a lot of high income folks with business to conduct Downtown will just live Downtown (or adjacent to Downtown) I don't think that Nashville's poor infrastructure will slow down migration from wealthy coastal city folks. Property values in Nashville's urban core & in Williamson county will continue to climb for the foreseeable future. But that's not to say that Nashville won't have problems. By not acting on infrastructure issues, I think Nashville has been setting itself up to have massive wealth inequality issues, similar to that of the Bay Area. Home prices in nice places will keep climbing while non-desirable places to live will collect all of the people who can't afford $1M homes: from service workers to folks who struggle with mental illness or addiction. Many will be priced out of Nashville altogether, which has already started happening. Before long, I think Nashville's only middle class will be people who work(ed) normal jobs & were lucky enough to buy property in a nice area early on. Even if Nashville's existing infrastructure were good, it wouldn't be able to build out forever. The City is in a pretty geologically significant river valley, where developable land is surrounded by steep hills and peppered with floodplains. Then there's the huge chunk of this river valley that would be a great candidate for development, but it's full of Williamson County's estate & ranch style homes. Good luck making room for the middle class there. Nashville and Tennessee should've invested in infrastructure early in the way that Salt Lake City did, but that obviously didn't happen. I don't know if there's a way to prevent the aforementioned wealth disparity issues without re-dedicating a significant amount of ROW in the metro area to transit. The residents of Nashville consistently vote against any infrastructure that isn't for cars, whether it's transit or "just" infrastructure to prevent homes from flooding. I think the upcoming transit referendum has a good chance of passing, but it doesn't go nearly far enough. ____ Now let's contrast Nashville to the two cities in the Midwest that have been growing very quickly in recent years: C-bus & Indy. These cities have much better infrastructure than Nashville AND they don't have significant physical barriers preventing sprawl. The effect is that property values in C-bus & Indy don't reach the same extremes as in Nashville. Simple supply & demand. The upside is that there is no real threat to the middle class in C-bus or Nashville, and there probably never will be. The other side of the coin is that C-bus & Indy are destined to be insanely sprawling cities; it will be a while before it makes more sense to build 30 towers in Downtown Indy or Cbus than it does to just build another ring of suburbs. It's... not great.
September 5, 2024Sep 5 3 minutes ago, Cornstalk5139 said: Property values in Nashville's urban core & in Williamson county will continue to climb for the foreseeable future. But that's not to say that Nashville won't have problems. By not acting on infrastructure issues, I think Nashville has been setting itself up to have massive wealth inequality issues, There is an interesting contrast between Davidson County rezoning itself for density and Williamson County rezoning itself for low-density. In Davidson, 1950s homes are torn down and replaced by 4-6 infill shoe box homes. Meanwhile, you now need 5 acres to build a house in any unincorporated area of Williamson County. Nobody cares about wealth inequality or any of that in Tennessee. Tons of people from modest backgrounds have enjoyed huge unexpected payouts on their crap 1940s homes. Everybody's making money and nobody cares about the future. Nashville is already a bizarre place and it's going to be even weirder in another 10 years.
September 5, 2024Sep 5 25 minutes ago, Lazarus said: There is an interesting contrast between Davidson County rezoning itself for density and Williamson County rezoning itself for low-density. In Davidson, 1950s homes are torn down and replaced by 4-6 infill shoe box homes. Meanwhile, you now need 5 acres to build a house in any unincorporated area of Williamson County. Nobody cares about wealth inequality or any of that in Tennessee. Tons of people from modest backgrounds have enjoyed huge unexpected payouts on their crap 1940s homes. Everybody's making money and nobody cares about the future. Nashville is already a bizarre place and it's going to be even weirder in another 10 years. I think that both Columbus & Indianapolis have started to see a lot of migration from Nashville. Out of state migration numbers are up for both cities. There stand to be a decent chunk of long time middle-class renters & recent college grads who can't afford to live in their hometown anymore & who look to nearby cities. I have noticed a lot of Tennessee plates outside BMVs in Indy. The same is probably true in Columbus, and probably in Cincinnati too. That said, I'm not sure that the state governments of Ohio or Indiana care about wealth inequality either. Local officials in cities & college towns probably do, but all that they can do about it is upzone. Which is great, but it also won't prevent low-density sprawl elsewhere. It's a huge balancing act. Edited September 5, 2024Sep 5 by Cornstalk5139 adding more to this post without risking running into my weird double post error again.
September 9, 2024Sep 9 On 9/5/2024 at 1:25 AM, Cornstalk5139 said: Nashville did an excellent job of leveraging its mild climate Nashville is barely south of the Kentucky border and its winter climate is pretty much the exact same as Louisville or Cincinnati or Indianapolis. It is not like Atlanta. Nashville is very grey, drizzly, and unpleasant in the winter. Sunny winter days can have a ton of glare. Plus, since it's on the eastern edge of the Central Time Zone, it gets completely dark by the afternoon rush hour. Knoxville, TN is at the same latitude as Nashville but in a completely different weather zone thanks to the Cumberland Plateau. It does have vividly blue skies throughout the winter like Northern Alabama and Atlanta - almost zero drizzly grayness. It's what people think Nashville is like.
September 9, 2024Sep 9 The perception that Nashville is warm is probably mostly in the beholders mind but... Nashville and Louisville winters are about one month apart climate-wise. Meaning if January is the baseline/coldest month, Louisville's February compares to Nashville's January or one would expect the same average weather in January in Nashville as one would have in February in Louisville. Nashville's January is Cincinnati's March. Nashville and Atlanta are actually very comparable. USDA Zones....ATL sits on the cusp of 7b and 8a and NASH/KNOX is strongly 7a. LOU and CIN is 6b/6a. The southern magnolia/Natchez crepe myrtle prevalence seems to be a good anecdotal measure.
October 4, 2024Oct 4 On 9/8/2024 at 11:34 PM, Lazarus said: Nashville is barely south of the Kentucky border and its winter climate is pretty much the exact same as Louisville or Cincinnati or Indianapolis. It is not like Atlanta. Nashville is very grey, drizzly, and unpleasant in the winter. Sunny winter days can have a ton of glare. Plus, since it's on the eastern edge of the Central Time Zone, it gets completely dark by the afternoon rush hour. Knoxville, TN is at the same latitude as Nashville but in a completely different weather zone thanks to the Cumberland Plateau. It does have vividly blue skies throughout the winter like Northern Alabama and Atlanta - almost zero drizzly grayness. It's what people think Nashville is like. I live in Indianapolis & head south on I65 often. Do not underestimate how quickly the climate gets warmer as you head down I65. Columbus, Indiana gets 10 fewer inches of snow per year - on average - than Indianapolis. It's a 45 minute drive south. By the time you get to Nashville, you're talking about a pretty radical difference in overall climate. Nashville isn't Miami, but it's certainly not the Midwest. The State of Tennessee my refuge for when perpetual grey skies or polar vortexes become too much for me. Sometimes Nashville, sometimes Knoxville, and sometimes Chattanooga. It just depends on whether roads are open in the Smoky Mountains and what my friends in various parts of Tennessee are up to. But they're all considerably milder in the winter than Indy.
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