May 8, 20214 yr ^I don't think Quibi's in the picture anymore, are they? Considering they sold all the assets to Roku and don't exist anymore... Edited May 8, 20214 yr by GCrites80s
May 8, 20214 yr No clue.This is Meg's development company and one reason she ponied up 100 million for FC. https://www.associatecapital.com/about
May 8, 20214 yr Yeah Whitman was brought in to help with the development around the stadium. Quibi doesn’t exist anymore as they tanked, but Whitman and the other owners still have tons of money to build this.
May 8, 20214 yr 11 hours ago, ucnum1 said: It will be much nicer than the banks and probably take just long to build. I really disagree with the very last part of your statement, I think Whitman and crew are going to move FAST especially on the first/north phase. Once the Ballet moves to its new building I expect details and a ground breaking within a year or 2. Remember this is all FCC they own and control the land and development. The Banks is/was a hot mess because there are a ton of cooks in that kitchen including the city, the county, the reds, the bengals, the developers, and the park board. The most recent example of this was the absolute circus it was to bulid The ICON music venue. Also the fact The Banks required 10s of millions of dollars alot of which was federal and state funding to build those giant garages slowed the timeline tremendously. So this FCC project should be nothing at all like The Banks.
May 8, 20214 yr 7 minutes ago, 646empire said: I really disagree with the very last part of your statement, I think Whitman and crew are going to move FAST especially on the first/north phase. Once the Ballet moves to its new building I expect details and a ground breaking within a year or 2. Remember this is all FCC they own and control the land and development. The Banks is/was a hot mess because there are a ton of cooks in that kitchen including the city, the county, the reds, the bengals, the developers, and the park board. The most recent example of this was the absolute circus it was to bulid The ICON music venue. Also the fact The Banks required 10s of millions of dollars alot of which was federal and state funding to build those giant garages slowed the timeline tremendously. So this FCC project should be nothing at all like The Banks. This is a good point. Obviously FCC can only make so much money on ticket sales/concession sales due its limitations of games/attendance. The ownership group is obviously intelligent enough to know that it would be smart to diversify their revenue stream with developing the adjacent land with mixed use development. Especially if the goal is to use the stadium for more than just fcc game day matches (which ownership has already stated that this will be the case) than it’s a no brained to quickly jump on redevelopment of the land.
May 8, 20214 yr 20 minutes ago, Troeros2 said: This is a good point. Obviously FCC can only make so much money on ticket sales/concession sales due its limitations of games/attendance. The ownership group is obviously intelligent enough to know that it would be smart to diversify their revenue stream with developing the adjacent land with mixed use development. Especially if the goal is to use the stadium for more than just fcc game day matches (which ownership has already stated that this will be the case) than it’s a no brained to quickly jump on redevelopment of the land. I’ve also heard they are in the midst of trying to book some BIG events, some of which may surprise.
May 8, 20214 yr Ownership wants a NWSL team that one will happen.The Bowl game im not seeing but who knows. https://mobile.twitter.com/WilliamsBob75/status/1390683948385280003
May 8, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, ucnum1 said: Ownership wants a NWSL team that one will happen.The Bowl game im not seeing but who knows. https://mobile.twitter.com/WilliamsBob75/status/1390683948385280003 Interesting. Im sure US National team games of some sort as well. MLS All Star game is a lock too. College football bowl games is very interesting, I can actually see it being very nice in that venue. Most bowl games are not at all like the big New Years 6 games or lords knows the CFP. Many are smaller games attracting lesser known college teams and crowds of 15/20k which TQL could host easily. It would look great on TV too. A lot of these smaller teams end up playing these games in huge stadiums and the turn out looks pathetic on tv because the venues are too big.
May 8, 20214 yr looks like a wonderful facility. Looks like all the nay-sayers are eating crow. looks like the neighborhood is investing heavily; sam adams, the newport alley or whatever is expanding and may even be built. lots of work going on along Liberty. and I bet it will continue including the FCC owned property around the stadium. Seems those foreigners do know how to build a stadium after all. The stadium may even put Cincy on the map in Europe and bring in a $f***tonne of tourists and international investment.
May 8, 20214 yr 35 minutes ago, RJohnson said: looks like a wonderful facility. Looks like all the nay-sayers are eating crow. looks like the neighborhood is investing heavily; sam adams, the newport alley or whatever is expanding and may even be built. lots of work going on along Liberty. and I bet it will continue including the FCC owned property around the stadium. Seems those foreigners do know how to build a stadium after all. The stadium may even put Cincy on the map in Europe and bring in a $f***tonne of tourists and international investment. What is this rant about? What “foreigners” built the stadium? I’m married to an immigrant and don’t take kindly to casual disparaging of “foreigners”.
May 8, 20214 yr 3 minutes ago, jwulsin said: What is this rant about? What “foreigners” built the stadium? I’m married to an immigrant and don’t take kindly to casual disparaging of “foreigners”. we're all immigrants get over it. and please enjoy your disparaging. and i see your name regularly and you seem to have a lot to say so i hope you grew an inch taller today.
May 9, 20214 yr Wow! All I can hope is that the fcc haters on this sub can finally realize how much of a blessing that this occurred for otr and the west end. so much new development and new businesses are on the horizon thanks to fcc!
May 9, 20214 yr Paywall. All I see is the word ‘nixes’ https://www.cincinnati.com/get-access/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cincinnati.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2021%2F05%2F08%2Fnew-brewery-restaurants-and-apartments-planned-near-tql-stadium%2F5007639001%2F
May 9, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, atlas said: Paywall. All I see is the word ‘nixes’ https://www.cincinnati.com/get-access/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cincinnati.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2021%2F05%2F08%2Fnew-brewery-restaurants-and-apartments-planned-near-tql-stadium%2F5007639001%2F Reading the article it states that Elevar design group put out renderings on a plan for around the stadium but FC rejected those specific plans. Not saying that any and all plans are being nixed, just the ones that were proposed by Elevar.
May 9, 20214 yr Berding is meeting with developers this week and into next.Deciding on propsals it seems.
May 9, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, ucnum1 said: Berding is meeting with developers this week and into next.Deciding on propsals it seems. Makes sense...I hope whatever the plan is there is some nice density and maybe height. does west end have any time of height restrictions with new builds?
May 9, 20214 yr There is no question that soccer is a fascinating sport. It is literally played worldwide, but for the uninitiated, it can seem like somewhat of a confusing sport. For example, what do the terms “Red”, “Real”, and “United” mean? Of course, if you are going to get into soccer, it is important to know these abbreviations. While it can be said that the national pastime in the United States would be baseball, it also can just as easily be said that the world pastime would be soccer. However, knowing these terms is just the tip of the iceberg. There are also many abbreviations that can be just as daunting and confusing. For example, what about CF? What does THAT mean? Well, it actually stands for “Club de Futbol” and it is popular terminology in many Spanish countries. Of course, this leads us to our next point: what of the meaning of FC? We even see the FC term with the soccer clubs in the United States. What does FC mean in soccer? History of the FC Terminology In the United States, the “FC” term first took off with the establishment of the Major League Soccer (MLS) league in 1996. There are now 24 MLS teams in the United States and Canada, and they have plans to expand to 27 teams by 2022 and then later on to 30 teams. Presently, the teams based in Atlanta, Cincinnati, Columbus, New York City, Orlando City, Toronto, Dallas, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Seattle and Vancouver all use the “FC” terminology in their name. Moreover, a proposed future team based in Austin, Texas will be using the terminology as well. However, this isn’t just an American soccer phenomenon. Throughout the world, this term is readily used. Examples would include FC Liverpool, FC Andorra, Arsenal FC, and FC Barcelona among many others. The importance FC Terminology? Of course, this all begs the question, just why do some teams think using FC in their name is important? It’s possibly because they want to establish themselves within the proud tradition that is soccer, or “football” if you will. Naturally, the FC term is also heavily utilized in order to identify a team, and this seems to be especially true within the culture of Europe and the English Premier League. However, in America, the term “FC” has not been without its share of controversy. This is possibly because the MLS is a newer league in the United States and one that for some reason doesn’t seem to get much respect. Needless to say, it is definitely time for Americans to give the MLS some credit, especially considering the fact they now have more attendance than many National Hockey League games. Of course, here is one of the main reasons why the term “FC” could be called controversial in the United States: The Meaning of the Term “FC” in Soccer So, just what does FC mean in soccer? You see, the reason why the term “FC” is somewhat controversial in the United States is that “FC” actually stands for “Football Club.” Some individuals have a little bit of difficulty wrapping their mind around the fact that “soccer” is actually called “football” in other countries. This is primarily because of the popularity of the American football league the NFL, which has been around since the early part of the 20th Century. Regardless of whether Americans might get offended or not, the most important thing to remember is that the MLS is a very young league. Thus, if we simply give it time, many sports fan will warm up to the fact that soccer teams are liable to have “FC” in their name look what i learned tonghit. and i always thought it meant Futbol Club.
May 9, 20214 yr 7 stories i believe is the maximum that can be built.I get snippets on what FC wants to build.A upscale banks and $500 initial development investment gas made the rounds.I believe they want more resturants in the intial development.A larger hotel than 85 rooms about double that.250-400 housing units.
May 9, 20214 yr 22 minutes ago, ucnum1 said: 7 stories i believe is the maximum that can be built.I get snippets on what FC wants to build.A upscale banks and $500 initial development investment gas made the rounds.I believe they want more resturants in the intial development.A larger hotel than 85 rooms about double that.250-400 housing units. Wow hope that pans through!
May 9, 20214 yr 3 hours ago, RJohnson said: The stadium may even put Cincy on the map in Europe and bring in a $f***tonne of tourists and international investment. I've visited a handful of european football stadiums, and I'd have to say that TQL stadium, as a stadium, isn't likely to have that effect. Also, Columbus doesn't use FC. They use SC.
May 9, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, zsnyder said: I've visited a handful of european football stadiums, and I'd have to say that TQL stadium, as a stadium, isn't likely to have that effect. Also, Columbus doesn't use FC. They use SC. OTR looks like Europe though. West end stadium benefits from the beautiful architecture that surrounds it. definitely one of the most unique mls stadiums around and will be unique for most traveling fans that are visiting for the first time.
May 9, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Troeros2 said: OTR looks like Europe though. West end stadium benefits from the beautiful architecture that surrounds it. definitely one of the most unique mls stadiums around and will be unique for most traveling fans that are visiting for the first time. OTR (even though the comment was about the stadium) doesn't look like europe. It looks like 19th century big city america. If it did look like europe, I don't think that would be an argument for europeans traveling across the pond just to see it.
May 9, 20214 yr 10 hours ago, zsnyder said: OTR (even though the comment was about the stadium) doesn't look like europe. It looks like 19th century big city america. If it did look like europe, I don't think that would be an argument for europeans traveling across the pond just to see it. I’m not gonna argue with you, but anyone has been to otr plenty of times can notice the striking similarities to Europe. It’s a unique destination regardless. Not many cities have something like otr in the heart of their urban core due to urban renewal and I think most visitors will notice this uniqueness (hopefully). I think if anything it’s Cincinnati version of a European city “old town” which again, if you go to Miami, or Salt Lake, , or LA that simply doesn’t exist anymore.
May 9, 20214 yr 13 hours ago, atlas said: Paywall. All I see is the word ‘nixes’ https://www.cincinnati.com/get-access/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cincinnati.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2021%2F05%2F08%2Fnew-brewery-restaurants-and-apartments-planned-near-tql-stadium%2F5007639001%2F What on earth. Lol. Just read the article and it seems it must be more to this story. Why did FCC send a cease and desist letter to Elevar? It seems like a over reaction. Elevar responded by basically saying it meant no harm and architectural firms put out conceptual/ imaginary designs all the time and I agree. If they don’t want to use Elevar or that’s not the plan they are going with why get so upset by the firm throwing out an idea where is the harm in that? Also Jeff Berding responded to the Elevar plan by simply saying “it’s not happening” yikes Edited May 9, 20214 yr by 646empire
May 9, 20214 yr 10 minutes ago, 646empire said: What on earth. Lol. Just read the article and it seems it must be more to this story. Why did FCC send a cease and desist letter to Elevar? It seems like a over reaction. Elevar responded by basically saying it meant no harm and architectural firms put out conceptual/ imaginary designs all the time and I agree. If they don’t want to use Elevar or that’s not the plan they are going with why get so upset by the firm throwing out an idea where is the harm in that? Also Jeff Berding responded to the Elevar plan by simply saying “it’s not happening” yikes it just sounds like info that was released to soon..especially if their are other investors involved then they probably don’t want info like this circulating, especially if this isn’t going to be the design group they go with. it could be also possible that fcc isn’t done purchasing surrounding land and don’t want the land value to artificially rise because of this spec news.
May 9, 20214 yr 6 minutes ago, Troeros2 said: it just sounds like info that was released to soon..especially if their are other investors involved then they probably don’t want info like this circulating, especially if this isn’t going to be the design group they go with. it could be also possible that fcc isn’t done purchasing surrounding land and don’t want the land value to artificially rise because of this spec news. True
May 10, 20214 yr On 5/7/2021 at 2:26 PM, 10albersa said: As one of those haters... I'll believe it when I see it. I also was pleasantly surprised by the Elevar renderings but was still skeptical, and 24 hours later Berding is out here saying "it's not happening" and being his usual A-hole self. So who knows, but I really hope something of this caliber and character gets built around the stadium and some of the few remaining pieces of historic context like the Berger beer cellars and tristate building facade can actually be used. As much as I think FCC's stadium is great in a bubble, that doesn't mean I can't also wish they gave more of a sh*t about historic preservation and their neighborhood context and didn't knock down every building within a one block radius especially the Revelation Baptist Church/synagogue.
May 10, 20214 yr Something will be built there. It’s clear fcc wants to create a bubble of some sort by the stadium so they can control the revenue stream. I’ve always been pro preservation but at the same a lot of the west end was demoed a long time ago. There were a few clusters remaining but the overall damage was done a long time ago. I know everyone was stating that progress was coming to the west end but before fcc it was still largely ignored even with the progress otr was making. I think fcc has made west end relevant to some extent and I think the hope is that it will be a catalyst for development. We are already starting to see that to some extent...and my personal optimistic outlook is that the further we become clear of this pandemic the more info we will hear trickle out on new businesses and mixed use developments pop up around the stadium.
May 10, 20214 yr On 5/8/2021 at 9:27 AM, 646empire said: I really disagree with the very last part of your statement, I think Whitman and crew are going to move FAST especially on the first/north phase. Once the Ballet moves to its new building I expect details and a ground breaking within a year or 2. Remember this is all FCC they own and control the land and development. The Banks is/was a hot mess because there are a ton of cooks in that kitchen including the city, the county, the reds, the bengals, the developers, and the park board. The most recent example of this was the absolute circus it was to bulid The ICON music venue. Also the fact The Banks required 10s of millions of dollars alot of which was federal and state funding to build those giant garages slowed the timeline tremendously. So this FCC project should be nothing at all like The Banks. When does the Ballet move? Their building looks pretty close to being completed.
May 10, 20214 yr 50 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: When does the Ballet move? Their building looks pretty close to being completed. I think sometime this summer
May 11, 20214 yr On 5/8/2021 at 10:49 PM, zsnyder said: OTR (even though the comment was about the stadium) doesn't look like europe. It looks like 19th century big city america. If it did look like europe, I don't think that would be an argument for europeans traveling across the pond just to see it. It looks more like a UK city than most of America does, but even then all the gaps in the urban fabric due to demos makes it NOT look like Europe with maybe the exception of some East German cities.
May 11, 20214 yr 46 minutes ago, neilworms said: It looks more like a UK city than most of America does, but even then all the gaps in the urban fabric due to demos makes it NOT look like Europe with maybe the exception of some East German cities. I mean the goal is to get this gaps filled. That’s why following otr development is exciting because you get to witness the teeth being put back together with every new development!
May 11, 20214 yr Cincy is full of northern european heritage. Street names were once german, i hear. in Habigs you could hear german conversations and many other restaurants served german dishes. Cincy is supposed to be a beer city. and many beers seem to have german names made right here in the city. There are many northern europoean names on trucks, schools, businesses. i attended school with lots of german sounding names. Now we even have soccer/futbol. With a little clever marketing, I bet we could attract at least one northern european to visit our fair city. we even have maybe three octoberfests. in other words there is a tradition of german/north.european settlement here. OTR was probably built by many german bricklayers. If advertised with a little flare all the new hotels could be full of Edelweiss. Danke Shane
May 12, 20214 yr Some pics from the enquirer before this weekends opener. Edited May 12, 20214 yr by 646empire
May 12, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, 646empire said: Some pics from the enquirer before this weekends opener. Could you just link to the article instead? these pics were all blurry, and we really shouldn't be posting other people's photos without proper attribution.
May 13, 20214 yr Fcc officials confirmed they will have full capacity for their stadium following the expiration of the June 2nd health mandate...I imagine most dance clubs will allow full capacity without masks like 2019. Regardless, otr is about to be packed to the brim like never before. This is very exciting for people like who me who suffered a lot of depression and anxiety during the pandemic...being able to go out with my significant other on a Saturday night was a huge way to let loose for us so it will be exciting to have that back in full force again following June 2nd!
May 13, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Troeros2 said: Fcc officials confirmed they will have full capacity for their stadium following the expiration of the June 2nd health mandate... This is inaccurate.
May 13, 20214 yr 13 minutes ago, Pdrome513 said: This is inaccurate. I guess wlwt news anchors inaccurately reporting this tonight on air..odd.
May 13, 20214 yr 4 minutes ago, Troeros2 said: I guess wlwt news anchors inaccurately reporting this tonight on air..odd. Yeah the rest of us in the news media think it’s odd as well, especially since we’ve gotten explicit denials and all Dardis had is misheard hearsay from another broadcast
May 13, 20214 yr I see on Cincinnati.com their is a subscriber article about how fcc is planning to build a pocket neighborhood around the stadium. Does anyone have details on this?
May 13, 20214 yr 1 hour ago, Troeros2 said: I see on Cincinnati.com their is a subscriber article about how fcc is planning to build a pocket neighborhood around the stadium. Does anyone have details on this? Unfortunately it's the same group who did the Banks. So I'm afraid it may be corporatey and lame. I don't want the neighborhood to be a playground. We live here.
May 13, 20214 yr 11 minutes ago, Dcs3939 said: Unfortunately it's the same group who did the Banks. So I'm afraid it may be corporatey and lame. I don't want the neighborhood to be a playground. We live here. Does it mention the name of the developer who will be working on the mixed use stuff? I forget the name of the banks developer.
May 13, 20214 yr 31 minutes ago, Dcs3939 said: Unfortunately it's the same group who did the Banks. So I'm afraid it may be corporatey and lame. I don't want the neighborhood to be a playground. We live here. What do you mean by the same group? Carter Dawson out of Atlanta?
May 13, 20214 yr On 5/12/2021 at 2:56 PM, ryanlammi said: Could you just link to the article instead? these pics were all blurry, and we really shouldn't be posting other people's photos without proper attribution. True, here’s the link: https://www.cincinnati.com/get-access/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cincinnati.com%2Fpicture-gallery%2Fnews%2F2021%2F05%2F12%2Flook-inside-fc-cincinnatis-tql-stadium%2F5043843001%2F
May 14, 20214 yr Also full capacity for June 19 game https://www.wcpo.com/sports/fc-cincinnati/full-fan-capacity-coming-to-tql-stadium-june-19
May 15, 20214 yr On 5/13/2021 at 5:44 PM, Dcs3939 said: Unfortunately it's the same group who did the Banks. So I'm afraid it may be corporatey and lame. I don't want the neighborhood to be a playground. We live here. They haven't mentioned a developer so not sure why you think it's the same group who did the banks.
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