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How much do you estimate it cost to buy all of those parcels?

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Organizers: Petition to put FC Cincinnati money on ballot has failed

 

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2018/06/27/organizers-petition-put-fc-cincinnati-money-ballot-has-failed/737010002/

 

"We have examined and analyzed all of our petitions with a fine tooth comb ... we do not have the 6,400 valid signatures," petition organizer and former City Council candidate Brian Garry told The Enquirer on Tuesday. "We have decided not to submit our petitions to the city."

https://www.fccincinnati.com/news_article/show/930724

 

Stadium will break ground this year and be topped out by the end of 2020. Stargell stadium demolition and construction will start in the next month or so.

 

The stadium will be completely redesigned to fit the context of the neighborhood.

 

Goal is potentially 25k, maybe 27k...all depending on costs.

 

Also, I noticed in the image banner where it outlines the site of construction that the tall historic red warehouse structure on central parkway was not part of the present outline. I’m curious if this means the building will be preserved? Perhaps the orientation of the fcc stadium will be positioned in such a way that the red building will not be affected. Fingers crossed!

Jostin Concrete?  Well that explains why Smitherman was silent on the issue. 

Isn't Jostin involved in almost every local project that Turner does?

Isn't Jostin involved in almost every local project that Turner does?

 

Jostin is owned by Albert Smitherman, brother of councilman Chris Smitherman. 

Isn't Jostin involved in almost every local project that Turner does?

 

Jostin is owned by Albert Smitherman, brother of councilman Chris Smitherman. 

 

I know.  But you can almost assume that any project Turner does locally is going to partner with Jostin.

Meis quote on the design of the fcc stadium.

 

As for the design elements, Meis said he was excited by the challenge of the West End site, adding that he's already walked the site multiple times and has picked out some existing architecture he'd like to pull from to inform his FC Cincinnati design.

 

"For me, it's often harder if we're working on a big, flat site with no context because then it's really just sort of an object," Meis said. "The great thing about (the West End) site is the physical constraints inform the design, so the idea of being able to connect through the neighborhood, understanding the scale of the neighboring buildings, making that part of the design and letting that inform the design – that's what's going to make this a really interesting project.

I'm thinking the stadium is going to be positioned diagonally. This would put the main entrance at Central Parkway and Wade Street. Probably structured parking underneath with most of it on the west side of the street.

 

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I'm excited to see the eventual renders for this stadium. While I absolutely hate the way FCC went about this whole stadium ordeal, now that it's going forward, and the team will be in the MLS, I think it's a very positive thing for the city and the West End.

I'm thinking the stadium is going to be positioned diagonally. This would put the main entrance at Central Parkway and Wade Street. Probably structured parking underneath with most of it on the west side of the street.

I sure hope it's not positioned diagonally. That would be bad for sun angles, especially in the late afternoon and evening. Also, positioning it diagonally would create a bunch of awkward triangles that would be hard to use for other purposes. I doubt there will be underground parking beneath the field.

 

I think this rendering (from early May) will be pretty close to the site plan, with the stadium built parallel to Central Parkway. I suspect they're still trying to buy 1415-1417 Central Parkway.

 

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I'm thinking the stadium is going to be positioned diagonally. This would put the main entrance at Central Parkway and Wade Street. Probably structured parking underneath with most of it on the west side of the street.

I sure hope it's not positioned diagonally. That would be bad for sun angles, especially in the late afternoon and evening. Also, positioning it diagonally would create a bunch of awkward triangles that would be hard to use for other purposes. I doubt there will be underground parking beneath the field.

 

I think this rendering (from early May) will be pretty close to the site plan, with the stadium built parallel to Central Parkway. I suspect they're still trying to buy 1415-1417 Central Parkway.

 

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That diagram makes much more sense and it has the same footprint of property ownership as the picture. Phew!

“All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.”
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That would be bad for sun angles, especially in the late afternoon and evening.

 

You know what's good at keeping the sun out of almost everyone's eyes?  A round multi-purpose stadium like the one we blew up in 2002. 

 

 

What becomes of the ballet building? Will they stay or move someplace else?

I heard a rumor about Promo West about potentially moving into that site and building there concert venue once the cincy ballet finds a new venue.

 

Not sure how true it is, but that’s what I heard.

That would be bad for sun angles, especially in the late afternoon and evening.

 

You know what's good at keeping the sun out of almost everyone's eyes?  A round multi-purpose stadium like the one we blew up in 2002. 

 

 

 

It had a big chunk missing

That would be bad for sun angles, especially in the late afternoon and evening.

 

You know what's good at keeping the sun out of almost everyone's eyes?  A round multi-purpose stadium like the one we blew up in 2002. 

 

 

Riverfront was a dump.  Don't be like the idiot Todd Portune and act like we should have kept that pathetic excuse for a stadium. 

Riverfront was a dump.  Don't be like the idiot Todd Portune and act like we should have kept that pathetic excuse for a stadium. 

 

Nobody thought Riverfront was a dump until the big money told everyone it was one so they could trick them into paying for new stadiums. 

 

FC's UDF Field will open with flying colors, but in 25 years Carl Lindner IV will convince the population that it's a dump and was always a dump so that we'll build him a new one. 

 

 

The idea of selling naming rights for this new stadium actually didn't even cross my mind until just now. Any bets on what it'll end up being called?

Riverfront was passable only. It wasn't a very good venue for either baseball or football. Riverfront, Veterans Stadium, Three Rivers, all of the cookie-cutter stadiums weren't very good, especially when compared to venues like Dodger Stadium and Kaufman which were built around the same time.

 

Now, we can argue that Crosley Field should have been renovated and the Bengals should have had their own stand-alone stadium, or we can argue that the stadium deal for PBS and GABP was bad (it was) but that's on the voters. Interestingly enough, several of the most recent generation of MLB parks are hitting the 20+ year mark in age, and with only a few exceptions, there's really not a big movement to replace any of them.

If anything, we are seeing the days of taxpayer funded stadiums fast coming to a close. Only the most desperate of cities would approve a tax increase to build a new stadium for a team these days. Maybe cities would contribute toward infrastructure costs ala the FCC deal, but the situation that allowed for new publicly funded stadiums for the Bengals and Reds appears to be over.

The idea of selling naming rights for this new stadium actually didn't even cross my mind until just now. Any bets on what it'll end up being called?

 

Rhinegeist Experimental J-Hole Stadium

The idea of selling naming rights for this new stadium actually didn't even cross my mind until just now. Any bets on what it'll end up being called?

 

The following are most likely aren't interested:

Cintas, US Bank, Fifth Third, Great American, Western & Southern (tennis), BB&T (NKU) already sponsor local sporting centers.

Kroger just paid for the naming right to UK's football stadium (formerly Commonwealth Stadium).

Toyota (current jersey sponsor) already has naming rights to two soccer stadiums, the Chicago Fire's (MLS) Toyota Park and San Antonio FC's (USL) Toyota Field.

Mercy Health will be the jersey sponsor starting next year.

 

The only companies represented in the ownership group (https://www.fccincinnati.com/ownership) not mentioned above are Hightower Petroleum and the Joseph Autogroup, Hightower isn't customer facing. The Joseph's could probably get one of the car brands they sell to sponsor.

 

Of the current sponsors (https://www.fccincinnati.com/sponsors) that aren't mentioned above the only that make sense to me is Delta. UDF doesn't seem big enough, Pepsi doesn't have a connection to the area, and UC Health and Medical Mutual won't work with Mercy becoming the jersey sponsor. Cincinnati Bell would be cool especially since, like GABP, it doesn't actually sound like a sponsor.

 

Looking at the Fortune 500 companies, AK Steel isn't customer facing, Cincinnati Financial seems unlikely, and I don't know about Macy's. P&G's brands seem like a good fit, but I'm not aware of any of them sponsoring a stadium, except for the Patriot's Gillette Field, which was named before P&G bought it. So a P&G sponsorship would require a change in thinking, but what better place to experiment than Cincinnati?

 

The only other company I can think to add it is Huntington Bank. The Business Courier has been reporting they are trying expand their presence in Cincinnati, so a sponsorship could be a good way to quickly improve their name recognition.

 

So I think the most likely are:

1. Huntington

2. Joseph car brand

2. P&G brand

Rhinegeist Medical Marijuana Stadium. 

2. P&G brand

 

Tampax Stadium

FC Cincinnati names construction, design team for stadium

 

FC Cincinnati has selected the construction and design team that will build its $200 million soccer-specific stadium in the West End.

 

The team that will build FC Cincinnati’s Major League Soccer stadium includes Turner Construction Co. as the construction manager, Meis Architects as the architect of record, Elevar Design Group as the local architecture firm helping Meis Architects, Jostin Construction as Turner's construction management partner and Machete Group as the owner's representative. U.S. Bank will provide financing.

 

FCC majority owner Carl Lindner III said the stadium will be an integral part of the community.

 

“It’s been a winding road to reach this point,” Lindner said during a news conference at Great American Tower. “We’re excited for what’s going to be our new home in 2021.”

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/06/29/fc-cincinnati-names-construction-design-team-for.html

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I really have high hopes this stadium project will transform the surrounding area at some point.

 

I’m most excited about the prospects that this might be some fans first exposure to over the rhine. It’s not a mystery that a lot of the fcc fan base are from the suburbs in mason/west Chester/Fairfield etc.

 

The sad truth is that many still have skewed perceptions of otr and still think it’s a shooting range drug den. At some point I’m sure they will go to a game and maybe they will see the changes that have occurred and the vibrancy of the new shops and restaurants and finally see that otr HAS indeed changed.

 

I’m not expecting them to all of a sudden drop there soccer mommy vans and sell there mason suburban  house and trade it for an urban loft...but my biggest hope is that there young kids will be exposed to otr and perhaps fall in love with the area (as much as we have on urban Ohio) and when they grow up will want to live in otr because of there early exposure to otr and the rest of the urban core.

 

These mason moms and west Chester dads are unfortunately a lost cause to an extent. There memories of otr are of the 2001 bloody violent riots and the decline of the neighborhood to becoming the most crime ridden neighborhood in all of America. There perception of otr is of drugs and prostitution and murders. It’s all very sad and grim.....but I still have hopes they will give otr a chance and maybe go to Taft’s or the eagle or graters and still see the improvements...

 

But the KIDS is what will be the difference maker. There memories will be of vibrant shops and restaurants and crowds of people on a busy game day. They will associate otr with fcc, there favorite sports team...This is what I’m looking forward to. The young generation that will be exposed to otr, for potentially the first time and will associate otr with happy/positive things rather than negative things.

 

This is key to the future of otr. This is what I believe will truly be the 2nd wave that will truly repopulate otr and the urban core in droves. Not now, but I believe we will begin to witness this is 15-20 years time.

 

Even in otr current state, it’s seen as the “go to” place in all of Cincy. And to think that this probably what? 20-30% of otr?

 

Think of connecting the sycamore lots to pendenlton and otr...think of narrowing liberty st and reactivating liberty st as a retail/resturaunt corridor again, and destroying the gap between north and south of liberty. Think of all the gaps that are ripe for infill left in otr. Think of a fully developed north of liberty...a fully developed Mohawk district that connects to otr...it blows my mind how much potential otr has left. If we can replicate this success to all of otr...my god. It just gives me chills thinking about it...

 

And there will be droves of fans from all over the country and Canada traveling down to otr for the first time as well and perhaps a ripple effect can be created there as well.

 

 

Sorry for the free flow text rant. I know there is some controversy to an extent about this stadium, but I can envision something massive on the cusp for our most beloved neighborhood.

 

A stadium is a bad neighbor. Not as bad a sewage plant or a junk yard, more along the lines of a large electrical substation or a municipal parking garage.

 

It will be closed almost all the time, guarded by active and passive security . Every now and then 20000 visitors who don't give a fig about where it is located will come down for a few hours and leave without the trash they brought. Some of them will melt into neighborhood bars.

 

The blackmail money FCC will spend down there is the only upside and I have my doubts about anything Berding on the one hand, and the West End politicos on the other would approve. But, we will see.

A stadium is a bad neighbor. Not as bad a sewage plant or a junk yard, more along the lines of a large electrical substation or a municipal parking garage.

 

It will be closed almost all the time, guarded by active and passive security . Every now and then 20000 visitors who don't give a fig about where it is located will come down for a few hours and leave without the trash they brought. Some of them will melt into neighborhood bars.

 

The blackmail money FCC will spend down there is the only upside and I have my doubts about anything Berding on the one hand, and the West End politicos on the other would approve. But, we will see.

 

Question, have you ever been to a fcc game? I’m confused about the comments about trash, I rarely see the level of trash (compared to reds or bengals game at Nippert) your referring to...also, I ask, because much of what makes fcc Ames exciting is coming early before the game and marching with the supporter groups and then afterwards celebrating the game. It’s not really a 3 hour event for most people but rather a whole day event.  That’s why I’m curious if you have even been to any of the matches? It’s almost as if your comparing a soccer match to a reds game or bengals game which is just truly not the case.

 

Berding/Linder already said that they will have concerts being hosted throughout the summer (I believe in association with promo west) similar to Mapfre stadium in Columbus and other shows that can utilize the 25-27k seat..on top of that Berding said they will have community events like movie night that will be hosted at the stadium.

 

Berding also said that they will build mixed use development around the stadium that would include bars/restaurants/potentially residential units.

 

Along with landscaping improvements to central parkway itself (let’s be honest it looks ugly af at the moment visually)...

 

So with all due respect, 1400 Sycamore, I’m sincerely lost what would you have rather seen instead. Considering no one cares about the west end regardless for any type of true sizable investment.

Thanks for the questions. I have a family member who is friends with Nick Hagglund and so I have been to several Toronto FC matches. In fact several are in Canada today for the match with NY I think. That will make me the person posting here who has likely been to the most MLS events.

 

But, I never said that soccer fans were the equivalent of the NFL and baseball slobs. They aren't. But, they are not neighborhood resources either. They are one day visitors, like I said. And, they aren't walking dogs and buying groceries and getting their latte and scone.

 

And, if the improvements were under the control of the Lindner org I would not be skeptical. But putting big $$ in front of the Mallory clan and their cronies will be a really ugly mess.  Net result, not great.

 

What I would always rather see is private, deliberate development. It was coming to the West End, albeit slowly, but consistently BEFORE FCC jumped in. I was privy to several transaction in the West End that were just like the stuff we did in the decade before Main St. popped. Admittedly, McMicken has the lead, but then West End was on deck. It will still happen, but everything is now boogered up with politicians and activists.

be happy, a major league team is coming to Cincy. That means more entertainment possibilities, more jobs, more excitement and more jobs for people to keep it clean. The corner of Liberty and Central Parkway is possibly the ugliest corner in the entire city. The ballet company is housed in possibly the ugliest building in the entire city. Remember OTR before the connector. What happened? OTR was cleaned up. OTR has been given a renaissance. WCET may get a new building. There could be new homes, apartments, condos, shops, and dreams. Local kids could/will see the changes and the positives it brings. That gives them hope. A little less negative Nelly, please.

This board (at least the Southwest section of Cincy) has a tendency to be extremely negative and depressing that it is sometimes hard to be here at times. I’m only 22, so maybe it’s more of a millennial, hope is eternal type of mentality, but it’s almost as if everything is a conspiracy around here...

It's mainly just a few frequent posters. You figure out who they are pretty quickly.

It's mainly just a few frequent posters. You figure out who they are pretty quickly.

 

And ignore...

 

Really. Who in their right mind thinks FCC in the West End is such a bad idea?

My guess would be people who hardly go to OTR and the West End. Wish it could be built before Blink next year. I bet they could have done some awesome interactive thing at the stadium.

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^ I was having a few beers at Queen City Radio with friends from out of town and was explaining how that patio will have an epic view of the stadium.  It's very exciting. They'll always been NIMBYs and negative nancies but at the end of the day this just another brick in the renaissance of the urban core.

It will and I do not think that the stadium will have to have something going on all year around for there to be a lot of traffic. As long as some new bars pop up around the stadium people will bar hop from those to Queen City or vice versa.

Jose Garcia had a proposed project in conjunction with 3cdc for a hotel at race and liberty. I'm sure at some point we will see a hotel in otr, if not a few hotels. Traveling fans from portland/seattle/atlanta/toronto will stay in otr, arrive on thursday or a friday, go on the game on saturday, and stay for the weekend till sunday night. Your exposing more tourists from across the nation to otr, they will not be staying just a few hours, but rather 2-3 days. They will be spending there money towards OTR bars, cafes, restaurants, ride the street car, and support the local economy.

 

Many of the newly built MLS stadiums have also hosted MLS All Star games. There is no doubt Cincinnati will be on the short list once the stadium is completed. That means we will have potentially upwards of 20,000 tourists from across the US and Canada, staying in OTR, spending money in OTR and potentially being exposed to OTR for the very first time.

 

The key aspect in all of this, is that for many of these traveling fans, this will be there first exposure to Cincinnati, and OTR as well. This is a great opportunity for Cincinnati and OTR to have more exposure across the nation, and perhaps some of these fans will return to cincinnati because they have fell in love with our city. This is a great opportunity.

 

Yet, we are still continuing to argue that this stadium is a bad thing? WTF is wrong with this sub forum. Jesus.

 

 

In conjunction with the stadium a gateway should be built at the entrance to OTR from Central Parkway at 14th Street

Tell people paying $3,000 per month for an apartment near Providence Park in Portland or people paying $5,000 (!) per month for rent near Camden Yards that stadiums are bad neighbors.

For me it's more of a wait and see mode on this. I always thought the Liberty Street Road Diet was the most important infrastructure improvement needed in OTR (along with signal timing of the streetcar).

 

If they scrap the Liberty Street Road Diet to funnel more cars for the stadium, I won't be too happy. I'm guessing Cranley will try to do this but of course can always get fixed later down the road, but seriously irks me this hasn't been done yet and I thought I saw somewhere this was getting axed already on the latest budget.

 

Just another way for Cranley to screw over the pedestrians and people in OTR.

 

I think the way people are arguing the merits as well is that there is literally zero economic studies showing stadiums have a net positive impact. The amount of public money going into this is a lot that could have been used elsewhere in the basin. Is this the best use?  If it creates more auto oriented development it definitely isn't. That all said, as Troy pointed out, if it does create more tourists from out of town that will be helpful definitely.  Will it be enough to spur more development in OTR? That remains to be seen.

 

I would have rather had more public money from TIF put into developments like 4th and Race (not certain if that district would cover 4th and Race), but projects more of that side. Also, I was from the start more interested in revamping US Bank Arena and the Convention Center, but all these things are as well not net positive investments. It just irks me that the politicians who were against these other things were for this thing because it was the Lindners. If it was some out of town investors, I guarantee this never would have got through. End rant/

I'm a Cincinnati expat living in Salt Lake. For four of the past five years, I've had season tickets to our local MLS team (Real Salt Lake) and I've gone on a few road trips to check out RSL on the road. Previously, I went to as many Crew games as I could so I'll chime in.

 

The MLS season runs from March until November for most teams so there will be a home match basically every-other weekend. Now if FCC decides to sponsor a NWSL team (which they should), there will be another permanent resident in the stadium. During the season there's also, US Open Cup and CONCACAF Champions League. Every two years there will be the Gold Cup, which is played in MLS stadiums. Cincinnati will also be able to bid on US national team friendlies, NCAA College Cup, as well as other sports like lacrosse and rugby. I'd imagine that local high schools will also use the venue for soccer and football events.

 

As for the affect on the neighborhood. The FCC stadium will be one of the more urban stadiums in the league with bars, restaurants, etc all within an easy walk or streetcar ride from the stadium. Many of the early MLS stadiums including RSL's, are located out in the souless suburbs with nothing nearby. RSL, LA Galaxy, Colorado, Columbus, etc all have the problem of being far from any pre/post game activities. Basically, the only thing that RSL's stadium has going for it is its access to our light rail system but even then, you have to walk probably .25 miles across a six-lane highway to get to the stadium. FCC's stadium will be more like Portland's stadium, which is right in the middle of a neighborhood.

 

Depending on the team, Cincinnati will see some out of town visitors. I don't know if Portland and Seattle fans will travel like they do out west but Atlanta has a good following and hopefully other local teams will travel well like Chicago, Columbus and Indy (if they ever move up).

 

In general, I'm not a fan of public money going to build stadiums but 99% of the time, that's the voters' fault. The FCC deal is one of the better ones that I've seen. CPS gets a new football and track stadium, FCC builds a great downtown venue that will have one of the best locations in the league, and the city isn't on the hook for hundreds of millions of dollars.

 

A lot of the opposition I've seen has to do with either a complete lack of understanding of who MLS's core demographic is (it's not soccer moms, unless you count those of us millenials that have kids), a general dislike of soccer and/or the ownership, and anger that Cranley is backing the stadium. I can't stand the man and I think he's bad for the city, but I also think this is the best stadium deal Cincy is going to get. The stadium is also right next to a subway stop and so any future investment in rail transit could run right by the stadium.

For me it's more of a wait and see mode on this. I always thought the Liberty Street Road Diet was the most important infrastructure improvement needed in OTR (along with signal timing of the streetcar).

 

If they scrap the Liberty Street Road Diet to funnel more cars for the stadium, I won't be too happy. I'm guessing Cranley will try to do this but of course can always get fixed later down the road, but seriously irks me this hasn't been done yet and I thought I saw somewhere this was getting axed already on the latest budget.

 

Just another way for Cranley to screw over the pedestrians and people in OTR.

 

I think the way people are arguing the merits as well is that there is literally zero economic studies showing stadiums have a net positive impact. The amount of public money going into this is a lot that could have been used elsewhere in the basin. Is this the best use?  If it creates more auto oriented development it definitely isn't. That all said, as Troy pointed out, if it does create more tourists from out of town that will be helpful definitely.  Will it be enough to spur more development in OTR? That remains to be seen.

 

I would have rather had more public money from TIF put into developments like 4th and Race (not certain if that district would cover 4th and Race), but projects more of that side. Also, I was from the start more interested in revamping US Bank Arena and the Convention Center, but all these things are as well not net positive investments. It just irks me that the politicians who were against these other things were for this thing because it was the Lindners. If it was some out of town investors, I guarantee this never would have got through. End rant/

 

I think the city leaders will ultimately do whats in 3cdc best interest. It's in 3cdc best interst to narrow liberty st for various economic reasoning that will benefit 3cdc.

If they scrap the Liberty Street Road Diet to funnel more cars for the stadium, I won't be too happy. I'm guessing Cranley will try to do this but of course can always get fixed later down the road, but seriously irks me this hasn't been done yet and I thought I saw somewhere this was getting axed already on the latest budget.

 

Just another way for Cranley to screw over the pedestrians and people in OTR.

 

I think the way people are arguing the merits as well is that there is literally zero economic studies showing stadiums have a net positive impact. The amount of public money going into this is a lot that could have been used elsewhere in the basin. Is this the best use?  If it creates more auto oriented development it definitely isn't. That all said, as Troy pointed out, if it does create more tourists from out of town that will be helpful definitely.  Will it be enough to spur more development in OTR? That remains to be seen.

 

I think the city leaders will ultimately do whats in 3cdc best interest. It's in 3cdc best interst to narrow liberty st for various economic reasoning that will benefit 3cdc.

 

Before 3CDC existed, Cranley's vision for OTR was to make it a tourist destination, not an actual neighborhood with a mix of residents, office workers, and visitors. He famously met with a developer who wanted to fill OTR with Hard Rock Cafe and Dick's Last Resort style tourist trap establishments. Even with all of the residential growth in Downtown and OTR, Cranley still does not view the CBD and OTR as "neighborhoods" and still wants to prioritize making it a place where visitors can come down and have their fun, then drive home. For that reason I think he's going to try as hard as possible to not let the Liberty Street narrowing happen.

Even so, a tourist destination doesn’t have the monstrosity that is liberty street. It’s hard for pedestrians to cross from south of liberty to north of liberty. It’s not just appealing, and tourist destinations have “things” that are appealing.

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Plans for CPS stadium deal with FC Cincinnati change

 

The Cincinnati Planning Commission approved a land swap on Friday that paves the way for a potential change in FC Cincinnati’s deal with the Cincinnati Public Schools to build a new soccer-specific stadium in the city’s West End at the site of the district’s Stargel Stadium.

 

The Cincinnati Board of Education will consider a change that would allow FC Cincinnati to provide CPS with a $10 million payment with the school district building its own replacement for Stargel in the southwest corner of Ezzard Charles Drive and John Street, the former site of a planned Citirama. The original plan was for FC Cincinnati to build the stadium for CPS.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2018/07/20/plans-for-cps-stadium-deal-with-fc-cincinnati.html

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Latest Planning Commission Packet, starting on Page 16: https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/about-city-planning/city-planning-commission/aug-17-2018-packet/

 

The Commission recommends the sale of City-owned property in Lower Price Hill to Tri-State Wholesale Building Supplies, which implies (doesn't take a genius to figure it out) that FC Cincinnati is acquiring the current Tri-State building at the corner of Liberty and Central Parkway.

 

I'm not sure if/how this will change the stadium's site plan, or they'll use the Tri-State building/land for parking/development.

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