December 21, 20204 yr 14 minutes ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: Knez is becoming the king of the SE section of Wade Park area of Glenville. Dozens of “Knez homes” signs on open lots and new construction when you drive around E. 122nd, Lakeview Rd, etc... including several “SOLD” signs. Houses in the area used to sell for under $10K as recent as ten years ago. I've just got to add that these pictures really don't do justice to what Knez is doing. You have to drive around some of the streets, and it's pretty shocking when you do. It's like finding yourself in the middle of a brand new subdivision . . . but it's in Glenville. Glad to hear there are some SOLD, since there were none last time I drove around, a few months ago. What I really hope is that the new developments don't drive existing residents out, either because residents are actually priced out or because they feel like the neighborhood is too "gentrified" and not like it used to be. Moreso than any other places on the east side that are just starting to turn the corner, Glenville actually has a dense population and a strong community feel. From all I've heard, some of the smart community minded folks like Famicos are trying to leverage the new development and existing community to benefit each other as opposed to becoming a source of conflict. Hopefully that works out. If 70 years of violence and decay didn't manage to eradicate the neighborhood, it ought to be able to withstand some thoughtful infill.
December 21, 20204 yr Author 32 minutes ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: Knez is becoming the king of the SE section of Wade Park area of Glenville. Dozens of “Knez homes” signs on open lots and new construction when you drive around E. 122nd, Lakeview Rd, etc... including several “SOLD” signs. Houses in the area used to sell for under $10K as recent as ten years ago... the Knez homes are selling for $299K. I asked Bo Knez a couple weeks ago if he was planning on using any of the TMUD tax credit for the Hough Bakery site. He said no even though it might be eligible when all phases are counted. He said they're going after other incentives to support the project. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
December 21, 20204 yr Granted there is the premium for new construction, but 299k! Those are some hot prices there. For comparison, here is what 299k buys in the suburbs: https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/1910-S-Belvoir-Blvd_Cleveland_OH_44121_M34167-76896 . I think this definitely speaks to the demand and desire that people want to live in the city and will pay a premium to live close to the action.
December 22, 20204 yr Yah but taxes.. we're definitely not comparing apples here after the 15 year abatement is factored in. Edit: 5,500 in annual taxes comes out 400/mo on a mortgage which makes the payment on these comparable to that of roughly a 200k house in suburban cuyahoga county. Edited December 22, 20204 yr by West153
December 22, 20204 yr Plus if you factor in the fact that you could have lower transportation costs by using public transportation to work, rather than driving from wherever in the burbs and then paying for parking, the location cost is even lower.
December 22, 20204 yr 16 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said: I've just got to add that these pictures really don't do justice to what Knez is doing. You have to drive around some of the streets, and it's pretty shocking when you do. It's like finding yourself in the middle of a brand new subdivision . . . but it's in Glenville. Glad to hear there are some SOLD, since there were none last time I drove around, a few months ago. What I really hope is that the new developments don't drive existing residents out, either because residents are actually priced out or because they feel like the neighborhood is too "gentrified" and not like it used to be. Moreso than any other places on the east side that are just starting to turn the corner, Glenville actually has a dense population and a strong community feel. From all I've heard, some of the smart community minded folks like Famicos are trying to leverage the new development and existing community to benefit each other as opposed to becoming a source of conflict. Hopefully that works out. If 70 years of violence and decay didn't manage to eradicate the neighborhood, it ought to be able to withstand some thoughtful infill. There are none really for sale most homes sell when they go right up. The new homes around the corner from this picture I believe still have signs out but I'm not sure if those are even finished yet.
December 22, 20204 yr I've said it before and I'll say it again: Once again, many kudos to Knez Homes! They are almost single-handedly, dramatically changing the urban Cleveland landscape!
December 29, 20204 yr Cleveland officials hope container homes offer new housing choices on East Side With the introduction of the container homes, "the goal is to create some new energy and some new excitement" in the neighborhood, said Freddy Collier, Cleveland planning director. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cleveland/news/2020/12/29/container-homes-could-offer-new-housing-choices.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
December 30, 20204 yr This article is incorrect. This project is in St. Clair-Superior, not Glenville.
December 30, 20204 yr I was driving down Wade Park the other day to get to EC and since I haven't really been following Cleveland developments closely, I was absolutely shocked to see all those Knez homes squeezed in over there. It's still a little weird seeing so much infill popping up into one of the most awkward and forgotten corners of the city, but I'm happy to see that someone is trying to do something with the area. “To an Ohio resident - wherever he lives - some other part of his state seems unreal.”
December 30, 20204 yr Author It's not just Knez, @BigDipper 80. It's multiple developers. Lots happenin'! https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2020/09/glenville-massive-rebuilding-reaches.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
January 6, 20214 yr I didn't realize that some of the new Knez homes going in are 5 bedroom rentals. Great for groups of students since there aren't enough 5 bed options near campus. 
January 15, 20214 yr Sorry for the low quality picture, was just riding past. Here is the update on the Ashbury townhomes though. Packed pretty tight to the neighboring house. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
January 15, 20214 yr Also these two homes. The last two that they were building have sold already, pretty quickly after construction was over. Good to see. Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
January 15, 20214 yr Love the design. This is the kind of product I would like to see on those 100 infill lots in Hough we were discussing a few days ago (where the Westlake home builder is going in).
January 16, 20214 yr 16 hours ago, Htsguy said: Love the design. This is the kind of product I would like to see on those 100 infill lots in Hough we were discussing a few days ago (where the Westlake home builder is going in). I love the density on this street so much. Honestly even the surrounding streets have the same density with the new housing.
January 28, 20214 yr Author NRP Group is going out to bid for subcontractors in February for Churchill Gateway Apartments, according to Dodge. The project has a tentative June 1 groundbreaking date. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 18, 20214 yr Ashbury Pointe Townhomes (3-17-21) 11915 Ashbury Avenue apartment renovation Knez infill housing along and just south of Ashbury (The car parked at this sold one had New York plates) Future site of the Wade Park Townhomes Hough Bakery complex 11427 Ashbury Avenue apartments
March 18, 20214 yr Maybe I have no taste but I can't help it when I see those apartments in the last picture and realize that they in fact look nice and turned out much better than anticipated
March 19, 20214 yr Love seeing what's happening in Glenville. Talk about a neighborhood with great bones and limitless potential!
March 29, 20214 yr Briefly mentioned in a cleveland.com article about the zoning code, Knez wants to start construction on their Wade Park Townhomes in the Fall.
March 29, 20214 yr 12 minutes ago, tykaps said: Briefly mentioned in a cleveland.com article about the zoning code, Knez wants to start construction on their Wade Park Townhomes in the Fall. Would this be the intersection of Lakeview Rd and Wade Park Ave? https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5177709,-81.5983605,3a,75y,112.08h,105.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPvLwUYbRuw3wp82l277Wzw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DPvLwUYbRuw3wp82l277Wzw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.32228%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 Edited March 29, 20214 yr by MuRrAy HiLL
March 29, 20214 yr 32 minutes ago, MuRrAy HiLL said: Would this be the intersection of Lakeview Rd and Wade Park Ave? https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5177709,-81.5983605,3a,75y,112.08h,105.4t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sPvLwUYbRuw3wp82l277Wzw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DPvLwUYbRuw3wp82l277Wzw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D95.32228%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192 Yep! 36 townhouses between Wade Park Ave and the train tracks.
May 5, 20214 yr Proposed zoning changes makes it look like we can anticipate a lot more development in southern Glenville. A lot more multifamily and retail zoning plus a lot more urban form overlay. I wonder what Knez is planning and who else may be involved with unannounced plans here.
May 6, 20214 yr Author Bo knows building! I keep asking him what's planned there but he keeps tell me "wait and see." "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 7, 20213 yr Cleveland pays back debt to female veterans with new Sara J. Harper Village Ronald Kisner - TheLand - July 5, 2021 "On a recent sunlit summer afternoon, a groundbreaking ceremony in Cleveland’s Glenville neighborhood marked the place where new affordable housing for traumatized female veterans is slated to be completed in Spring 2022. The complex at Lee Ave. and E. 105th St. will accommodate everyone from individuals to women with up to two children. Rent will be subsidized and all will have ready access to parking, laundry, multipurpose space, and transportation to the nearby Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center."
July 29, 20213 yr Author Thanks again to @tykaps!! THURSDAY, JULY 29, 2021 Hough Bakeries redevelopment plan revealed Few businesses are as symbolic of the rise and fall of Greater Cleveland's fortunes as homegrown confectioner Hough Bakeries. Its former headquarters and plant at 1519 Lakeview Road on the border of Cleveland and East Cleveland has sat vacant since the bakery, once the nation's 10th largest, went bankrupt and closed in 1992. But its redevelopment may be equally symbolic of Cleveland's reversal of fortunes. MORE: https://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2021/07/hough-bakeries-redevelopment-plan.html "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
July 29, 20213 yr I feel like I'm forgetting something, but has Knez done historical rehab on this level before? This project is very exciting though, not only for what it is in and off itself, but for the future too - a clear bridge from UC into one of (if not THE) most distressed areas of the county.
July 30, 20213 yr Author 2 hours ago, PoshSteve said: I feel like I'm forgetting something, but has Knez done historical rehab on this level before? This project is very exciting though, not only for what it is in and off itself, but for the future too - a clear bridge from UC into one of (if not THE) most distressed areas of the county. I don't think they've done any historic rehabs, at last none that I can think of. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 11, 20213 yr Author Construction permit applications were submitted today for Knez's Lakeview Commons (previously called Wade Park Townhomes) on Wade Park Avenue at Lakeview Avenue. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
August 11, 20213 yr Kudos to Knez. Even though it's not far at all, this feels like a big step outside of the UC periphery and into Glenville. I hope the development does well and investments keep expanding.
September 9, 20213 yr I thought they were supposed to be tearing down Harry Davis Middle School to build apartments, it looks like they are just converting the school to apartments instead. Was this always apart of the plan or did I miss something? Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
October 7, 20213 yr Author Investors putting big money into Glenville By Ken Prendergast / October 7, 2021 Denver and Cleveland investors acquired 20 Glenville apartment buildings with the intent of renovating them with affordable housing. The investors, Cardinal Housing Group and Salus Development, are committing $16.6 million to property acquisitions and rehabilitations, according to city of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County records. MORE: https://neo-trans.blog/2021/10/07/investor-putting-big-money-into-glenville/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 7, 20213 yr ^Outstanding-It's great to see investment happening north of Superior and into St. Clair. I've said for a long time that when investment begins to hit this area, that the neighborhood would be truly turning a corner. Some may not know the dynamics of Glenville but the neighborhood is like many other parts of the city where you'll have a street that looks awful next to a street where homeowners take care of their properties. I'm familiar with these apartments- here's hoping for more outside investment believing in Glenville.
October 7, 20213 yr So glad to see a developer interested in renovating and preserving our city's stock of small brick apartment buildings.
October 7, 20213 yr Interesting! I had noticed tooling around on streetview that several of these buildings appeared to have been under common management. After a little more digging, looks like this is two older scatter-site Section 8 projects coming in for recapitalization with LIHTC equity and tax exempt bonds from OHFA. KJP, pretty sure AJM First Capital LLC is just the loan originator or equity syndicator, not the owner or investor. And for a LIHTC project, the "investor" is generally in it for the tax credits and depreciation, so it's not what most people have in mind as an investor. Not sure how exactly they all fit in, but looks like Cardinal Housing Group, Inc. may be the ones pushing this, with help on the ground from these people: https://salusdev.com/team-members/
October 7, 20213 yr 3 hours ago, Oldmanladyluck said: ^Outstanding-It's great to see investment happening north of Superior and into St. Clair. I've said for a long time that when investment begins to hit this area, that the neighborhood would be truly turning a corner. Some may not know the dynamics of Glenville but the neighborhood is like many other parts of the city where you'll have a street that looks awful next to a street where homeowners take care of their properties. I'm familiar with these apartments- here's hoping for more outside investment believing in Glenville. Fully agree - New construction is great, but perhaps more important is investing in what we already have, and building on the strengths we already have in these neighborhoods. How long before we can start referring to this area as NoSu??
October 8, 20213 yr Author 4 hours ago, StapHanger said: KJP, pretty sure AJM First Capital LLC is just the loan originator or equity syndicator, not the owner or investor. And for a LIHTC project, the "investor" is generally in it for the tax credits and depreciation, so it's not what most people have in mind as an investor. Not sure how exactly they all fit in, but looks like Cardinal Housing Group, Inc. may be the ones pushing this, with help on the ground from these people: https://salusdev.com/team-members/ You're right. Fixed it. Thanks! "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 9, 20213 yr Author Updated the article again with more information... https://neo-trans.blog/2021/10/07/investor-putting-big-money-into-glenville/ "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
October 10, 20213 yr On 10/7/2021 at 2:06 PM, Oldmanladyluck said: ^Outstanding-It's great to see investment happening north of Superior and into St. Clair. I've said for a long time that when investment begins to hit this area, that the neighborhood would be truly turning a corner. Some may not know the dynamics of Glenville but the neighborhood is like many other parts of the city where you'll have a street that looks awful next to a street where homeowners take care of their properties. I'm familiar with these apartments- here's hoping for more outside investment believing in Glenville. Glenville probably has the best housing stock of any east side neighborhood. It's also still very dense unlike Hough and the forgotten triangle, which often feel like ghost towns. I'm not an expert in economics, but I would think Glenville presents a prime opportunity for well-done infill development to actually benefit many people who live there as opposed to creating a neighborhood where there basically hasn't been one for thirty years.
October 10, 20213 yr 4 hours ago, LlamaLawyer said: Glenville probably has the best housing stock of any east side neighborhood. It's also still very dense unlike Hough and the forgotten triangle, which often feel like ghost towns. I'm not an expert in economics, but I would think Glenville presents a prime opportunity for well-done infill development to actually benefit many people who live there as opposed to creating a neighborhood where there basically hasn't been one for thirty years. The city needs to pass some kind of property tax increase protection for longtime residents because you could see property values increasing drastically there. You could see gentrification at an extent that hasn't really happened in Cleveland before. Edited October 10, 20213 yr by mu2010
October 11, 20213 yr It helps long time residents and lowers some of the temperature on the fight over gentrification at the same time. The Tremont discussion groups on FB are just overwhelmed with anti-gentrification rants right now, and I can't entirely blame people when they get mad about seeing someone else get a tax abatement while their bill goes up.
October 11, 20213 yr 20 minutes ago, X said: It helps long time residents and lowers some of the temperature on the fight over gentrification at the same time. The Tremont discussion groups on FB are just overwhelmed with anti-gentrification rants right now, and I can't entirely blame people when they get mad about seeing someone else get a tax abatement while their bill goes up. What you’re talking about is one of the reasons why I would support giving tax abatement to longtime residents who upgrade their housing stock too. I really don’t think it’s that complicated of a fix. We have people living in homes of deteriorating quality. Right now the city gives loans to some to fix their homes. Take a portion of our recovery act money, turn those loans into grants, give them to homeowners who have been in Cleveland for more than 15 years, and then give them a temporary tax abatement too. This way we don’t do anything stupid like removing the tax abatements for the new projects (as if we’ve arrived already. We haven’t) and the longtime residents who were the backbone of this city when no one else gave a damn aren’t left out or locked out. (While also doing things like real, robust job training so that our current residents get access to high paying, unfilled jobs in the city so that they’ll make more money and be able to afford to stay in these newly expensive neighborhoods.) Problem. Solved. But I digress. Lol
October 11, 20213 yr 2 minutes ago, inlovewithCLE said: What you’re talking about is one of the reasons why I would support giving tax abatement to longtime residents who upgrade their housing stock too. That is already available, although it would need to meet the relevant green standards for an abatement. The issue for many lower income residents is that they can't afford to improve their home up to those standards, so some sort of grants program combined with a tax reduction/freeze/etc. like you suggest is a good idea.
October 12, 20213 yr Cleveland council panel OKs selling city property for construction of affordable housing in Glenville Robert Higgs - Cleveland.com - Oct. 12, 2021 "A City Council panel gave its approval Tuesday for the city to sell land to a developer who wants to build more than 50 apartments with affordable rents and a center to promote better health in the Glenville neighborhood. The project, known as Churchill Gateway, would be constructed at the site of the idled Harry E. Davis School. The legislation approved by council’s Development, Planning and Sustainability Committee authorizes the city to sell more than 30 parcels around the school building to developer NRP Group. ... The project is expected to be completed in fall of 2022 and cost more than $13 million. Phase one will involve a four-story building with 52 apartments, Scott Skinner, NRP’s vice president for development, told the council’s Development, Planning and Sustainability Committee. Rents for the one-, two- and three-bedroom units will range from about $350 a month to $1,050 a month."
November 6, 20213 yr Author I don't know much about it except that it's going to be across from Al's Deli, 10604 Superior. I wish it could be right at the corner of East 105th and Superior. Perhaps we can hope for even larger buildings at the NE and the SE corners someday, with lots of ground-floor neighborhood retail, cafes, etc. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
November 7, 20213 yr 8 hours ago, KJP said: I don't know much about it except that it's going to be across from Al's Deli, 10604 Superior. I wish it could be right at the corner of East 105th and Superior. Perhaps we can hope for even larger buildings at the NE and the SE corners someday, with lots of ground-floor neighborhood retail, cafes, etc. WHat’s interesting is the rendering shows it as if it is sitting at the corner but the actual location isn’t near the closest intersection, I think that is what threw me off about the location. I wonder if the initial idea to have essentially a second phase of the Circle North Apartments on East 105th is dead. I know the councilman wanted to do residential with local retail there.
November 7, 20213 yr Author I'd like to go the meeting but I may have to leave early. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
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