Posted February 12, 20187 yr Five townhomes planned on a largely vacant lot in the 11800-12000 block of Wade Park Avenue by B.R. Knez. Streetviews shows that a dilapidated quadplex stood here and nothing else in 2014. It's possible that quadplex has been demolished since... http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2018/crr02-20-2018.pdf Edited February 19, 20205 yr by KJP "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
February 13, 20187 yr If those sell, there are quite a few other vacant lots over there that they could use to follow these 5 up. It's a neat area, with an irregular street layout making it feel denser and tightly knit, even with the blank spots.
February 21, 20187 yr If those sell, there are quite a few other vacant lots over there that they could use to follow these 5 up. It's a neat area, with an irregular street layout making it feel denser and tightly knit, even with the blank spots. Yeah, that Wade Park-Ashbury area is a nice neighborhood, but the current housing stock lacks the sort of diversity that might inspire rapid growth. We'll see what effect these townhomes have.
February 22, 20187 yr Buildings at Cleveland VA sell for $160M to $170M, cutting ties tainted by corruption scandal By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer Email the author | Follow on Twitter on February 22, 2018 at 1:30 PM, updated February 22, 2018 at 2:46 PM CLEVELAND, Ohio - An out-of-state investment firm has purchased three buildings and land at the Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center, in a $160 million to $170 million deal that cuts lingering ties between the VA and the family of a contractor jailed as part of a major corruption scandal. Real estate records filed Wednesday show that affiliates of CGA Capital, based in Maryland, recently bought the VA's administration building, a 2,000-space parking garage and a 122-bed housing complex that serves homeless veterans. The purchase also included land along Wade Park Avenue, just north of the buildings, between East Boulevard and East 105th Street. The sellers were companies tied to Patricia Lawley, the ex-wife of former contractor and developer Michael Forlani, according to public records. Forlani is serving an eight-year sentence in federal prison in Pennsylvania for racketeering, bribery and other crimes that surfaced during a wide-ranging corruption investigation in Cuyahoga County. He's set for release in May 2019. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/02/buildings_at_cleveland_va_sell.html#incart_m-rpt-1
March 7, 20187 yr Author I just noticed that the above sale included a separate but related transaction involving a vacant parcel at 1519 East Blvd. (at Wade Park Ave.). This quarter-acre parcel was valued at $162,300 for taxes and sold for $3.55 million! The buyer isn't just CGA. There is a partner included the purchase named Woodbranch but I don't who that is and a brief Google search and SOS Business search didn't reveal anything. Officially, the buyers are listed as CGA WADE PARK LAND LLC & WOODBRANCH. What's interesting about this is that the VA couldn't partner, develop or otherwise improve this site as long as its ownership remained affiliated with Michael Forliani. The sale will now allow the VA to work with the new buyer. This is the site.... 1500 East Blvd at Wade Park 2014 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 24, 20187 yr Corner of E. 105th and Orville Ave...Wade Park area Groundbreaking caps seven years of work to build Fisher Houses here for families of ailing veterans By Brian Albrecht, The Plain Dealer, [email protected] Updated 6:19 PM; Posted 6:19 PM CLEVELAND, Ohio - After nearly seven years of grassroots fundraising, the first shovels of dirt were turned Friday for construction of two Greater Cleveland Fisher Houses. The $12 million project is being constructed on a site on East 105th Street, two blocks north of the Louis Stokes Cleveland Veterans Affairs Medical Center. It will provide 32 suites for out-of-town families to stay here at no cost while a veteran/family member is being treated by the VA. About 30-40 such families are currently staying in local hotels each week, supporting an estimated 500 veterans referred here each year from outside the area for treatment in open heart surgery, spinal cord injuries, traumatic brain injury and long-term care. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/03/groundbreaking_caps_seven_year.html
March 24, 20187 yr That rendering is ugh. Is that built up to the street? That looks like it has some sort of cul de sac.
March 24, 20187 yr That rendering is ugh. Is that built up to the street? That looks like it has some sort of cul de sac. I know Mike Brady is a fictional architect from a 1970s sitcom, but is there some new software that mimics what he would design if he were alive? Because this building makes me think that is possible.
March 24, 20187 yr Author WTF is that? ? ? That design is so out of place. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 24, 20187 yr Looks like they build a standard design, either red brick or stucco. To me it looks like 1970's funeral home architecture :( Pittsburgh's is identical: https://www.fisherhouse.org/programs/houses/house-locations/pennsylvania-va-pittsburgh-healthcare-system/ Tennessee has a ranch version: https://www.fisherhouse.org/programs/houses/house-locations/tennessee-valley-healthcare-system/ North Texas gets a balcony and columns: https://www.fisherhouse.org/programs/houses/house-locations/texas-va-north-texas-health-care-system/ San Diego gets the stucco treatment: https://www.fisherhouse.org/programs/houses/house-locations/california-naval-medical-center-san-diego/
March 25, 20187 yr I just wanna know is it going to be built up to the street. That rendering worries me.
March 25, 20187 yr I think the location of the Fisher Houses is on the east side of E 105th between Lee and Orrville Avenues... would be surprised if they were build up to the sidewalk. The newer townhomes on the west side of the street one block south (Heritage Lane?) were not. Strangely, the corner store at E105 and Lee doesn't appear to have been acquired by the VA for the project. https://goo.gl/maps/iUgoRGUZFe32
March 25, 20187 yr I think the location of the Fisher Houses is on the east side of E 105th between Lee and Orrville Avenues... would be surprised if they were build up to the sidewalk. The newer townhomes on the west side of the street one block south (Heritage Lane?) were not. Strangely, the corner store at E105 and Lee doesn't appear to have been acquired by the VA for the project. https://goo.gl/maps/iUgoRGUZFe32 I have no problem with a setback that the townhomes have if it's like that then fine, it is a house at the end of the day but the rendering looks like they have a built in drop off area like a hospital. YUCK
March 25, 20187 yr Ok it took a ton of searching but i found a site plan on a government RFP for site prep: https://www.vendorportal.ecms.va.gov/FBODocumentServer/DocumentServer.aspx?DocumentId=4104405&FileName=36C25018B0295-002.pdf Looks like two buildings facing each other, small setback from E 105. Parking access off Lee Avenue, no driveway off E 105, no portico or drop-off.
March 28, 20187 yr Looks like a new development in the works from Finch (with lots of city involvement) immediately across 105th from the Fisher Houses: Mayor Frank Jackson unveils $15 million development as first project in his plan for revitalizing struggling neighborhoods http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/03/mayor_frank_jackson_unveils_15.html#incart_m-rpt-1
March 28, 20187 yr Glenville is it's own neighborhood. It deserves its own thread, especially with how much is supposed to be coming down the pipeline. With that being said I'm cross posting to start it off. BTW this area of Glenville is being branded as "Circle North" clearly a play off of the adjacent University Circle, but as I said it is it's own neighborhood still. The reveal of the project clearly stated it will have 13,500 Sq. feet of commercial space not 30,000 as Cleveland.com stated. IMG_20180328_115939 by dwainross34, on Flickr IMG_20180328_111807 by dwainross34, on Flickr IMG_20180328_120057 by dwainross34, on Flickr DSC_0674 by dwainross34, on Flickr DSC_0683 by dwainross34, on Flickr Mayor Frank Jackson unveils $15 million development as first project in his plan for revitalizing struggling neighborhoods http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/03/mayor_frank_jackson_unveils_15.html#incart_m-rpt-1
March 28, 20187 yr Great project. Kudos to Mayor Jackson and the City of Cleveland. They got this one right.
March 28, 20187 yr Glad to see this vacant lot redone- I pass by this lot often and wondered if/when there would be enough of a market to build on it. I would give E. 105th another 5 years- as long as University Circle continues to grow in employment, E. 105th has a good chance at becoming more attractive to potential buyers and tenants with jobs nearby.
March 28, 20187 yr Great project. Kudos to Mayor Jackson and the City of Cleveland. They got this one right. I agree, as far as the apartment project, I do wish the brown areas of the building were brick instead of what appears to be wood, it would be a much better fit with the surrounding (what's left over) apartments. I like the over layout of the building though, a real presence on 105 and it sits right by the #10 bus stop.
March 28, 20187 yr Glad to see this vacant lot redone- I pass by this lot often and wondered if/when there would be enough of a market to build on it. I would give E. 105th another 5 years- as long as University Circle continues to grow in employment, E. 105th has a good chance at becoming more attractive to potential buyers and tenants with jobs nearby. The best thing I've heard from the project is mixed income and mixed use. Glad to see the city planning projects with the current residents as well as other residents who aren't as well off to afford the new apartments getting built. Inclusion all around.
March 28, 20187 yr Great project. Kudos to Mayor Jackson and the City of Cleveland. They got this one right. I agree, as far as the apartment project, I do wish the brown areas of the building were brick instead of what appears to be wood, it would be a much better fit with the surrounding (what's left over) apartments. I like the over layout of the building though, a real presence on 105 and it sits right by the #10 bus stop. I thought the brown areas were brick or some sort of stone veneer. But I haven't seen any up close renderings.
March 28, 20187 yr Author I didn't realize the Glenville planning boundary with UC was along Wade Park Ave. In fact I figured another neighborhood was between UC and Glenville. Smart move to call this area Circle North. And if it doesn't work out, call it CircleBack. ;) "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 28, 20187 yr I've always known the Stokes VA Hospital to be University Circle, not Glenville. Both properties mentioned here on the on the south side of Wade Park. Anyone else can agree/confirm? EDIT: This map shows University Circle as extending west all the way to Ansel Rd, with Wade Park Ave as the northern border: http://neocando.case.edu/new_cando/maps_2010/Cuyahoga/Cleveland%20City%20SPAs%20(with%20census%20tracts%20and%20roads).pdf If that's the case, these two posts should go back to the University Circle thread: Buildings at Cleveland VA sell for $160M to $170M, cutting ties tainted by corruption scandal By Michelle Jarboe, The Plain Dealer Email the author | Follow on Twitter on February 22, 2018 at 1:30 PM, updated February 22, 2018 at 2:46 PM CLEVELAND, Ohio - An out-of-state investment firm has purchased three buildings and land at the Louis Stokes Cleveland VA Medical Center, in a $160 million to $170 million deal that cuts lingering ties between the VA and the family of a contractor jailed as part of a major corruption scandal. Real estate records filed Wednesday show that affiliates of CGA Capital, based in Maryland, recently bought the VA's administration building, a 2,000-space parking garage and a 122-bed housing complex that serves homeless veterans. The purchase also included land along Wade Park Avenue, just north of the buildings, between East Boulevard and East 105th Street. The sellers were companies tied to Patricia Lawley, the ex-wife of former contractor and developer Michael Forlani, according to public records. Forlani is serving an eight-year sentence in federal prison in Pennsylvania for racketeering, bribery and other crimes that surfaced during a wide-ranging corruption investigation in Cuyahoga County. He's set for release in May 2019. http://realestate.cleveland.com/realestate-news/2018/02/buildings_at_cleveland_va_sell.html#incart_m-rpt-1 I just noticed that the above sale included a separate but related transaction involving a vacant parcel at 1519 East Blvd. (at Wade Park Ave.). This quarter-acre parcel was valued at $162,300 for taxes and sold for $3.55 million! The buyer isn't just CGA. There is a partner included the purchase named Woodbranch but I don't who that is and a brief Google search and SOS Business search didn't reveal anything. Officially, the buyers are listed as CGA WADE PARK LAND LLC & WOODBRANCH. What's interesting about this is that the VA couldn't partner, develop or otherwise improve this site as long as its ownership remained affiliated with Michael Forliani. The sale will now allow the VA to work with the new buyer. This is the site.... 1500 East Blvd at Wade Park 2014 by Ken Prendergast, on Flickr
March 28, 20187 yr ^^ I put them in this thread because I saw the VA news and possible future development of those lots as being more related to the emerging East 105th corridor redevelopment spreading into Glenville than to other things happening in the rest of University Circle. Due to street layouts and elevation changes, it's always felt separate from UC to me and more integrated with Glenville to the north. I could move it back if there are objections to it's inclusion here, though.
March 28, 20187 yr I can't help wondering if slapping the University Circle brand on everything nearby might help. Glenville is North UC, Fairfax is South UC, etc. That's the direction this project name seems to be taking, and while I kinda hate it, I can't quite convince myself it's a bad idea.
March 28, 20187 yr It's pretty common that neighborhoods with marketable names "expand", at least in real estate listings, as much as they can. I'd hate to see Glenville's "brand" pushed aside, but I'd hate even more to see this part of the city continue to miss out on the redevelopment that makes so much sense there.
March 28, 20187 yr I can't help wondering if slapping the University Circle brand on everything nearby might help. Glenville is North UC, Fairfax is South UC, etc. That's the direction this project name seems to be taking, and while I kinda hate it, I can't quite convince myself it's a bad idea. You may need to know Washington's suburbs to appreciate the quote from a local realtor: "Chevy Chase is the only thing that keeps Annapolis from abutting Potomac." If the UC brand sells, the UC district will expand. Remember: It's the Year of the Snake
March 28, 20187 yr Author And East Cleveland is Never Never Land. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 29, 20187 yr I personally feel as though Glenville is historic enough to stand on it's own. Tremont kept its name, Ohio City kept its name, Glenville should be just Glenville. They talk about not gentrifying the neighborhood but calling this area circle north to change the perception of it screams gentrification. Do I understand why they are doing it? Yes. Do I agree or thinks they need to/should? No
March 29, 20187 yr I personally feel as though Glenville is historic enough to stand on it's own. Tremont kept its name, Ohio City kept its name, Glenville should be just Glenville. They talk about not gentrifying the neighborhood but calling this area circle north to change the perception of it screams gentrification. Do I understand why they are doing it? Yes. Do I agree or thinks they need to/should? No There’s no such thing in the history books as “the Tremont Shootout” or Ohio City Shootout or Ohio City Riots either. The fact of the matter is, fair or not, Glenville’s brand still suffers from its history. I’m much more interested in attracting things to help actual people in that neighborhood than I am about what developers choose to call it
March 29, 20187 yr I think there's a possibility for a middle ground where they brand the southern part of the neighborhood for its proximity to UC while still acknowledging that it's Glenville. Developers and Realtors can refer to it as Circle North while banners and signage in the actual neighborhood say "Circle North: A Glenville Neighborhood" or something like that. "Welcome to Glenville" when you cross Wade Park Ave.
March 29, 20187 yr Author BTW, the last, sickening episode of the Glenville Shootout occurred at East 105th and Euclid in the old Hotel Haddam. Yet few people ever associate this location with the Glenville Shootout. "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 29, 20187 yr Circle North: A Glenville Neighborhood Shall we make this a rule, then? Duck Island: A Tremont Neighborhood Waterloo Arts District: A Collinwood Neighborhood Gordon Square: A Detroit-Shoreway Neighborhood Or can we just Learn to Stop Worrying and Love the Investment?
March 29, 20187 yr Waterloo and Gordon Square definitely also use the Collinwood and Detroit-Shoreway brands. That's my point. I'm not worried, and I love the investment, but I would understand if some might be upset that the minute a part of Glenville improves, it all of a sudden ceases to be Glenville. I think that's a perfectly legitimate concern, especially considering it's a neighborhood with a rich history and proud residents.
March 29, 20187 yr I made a thread for this long ago. Cleveland has some awkward nomenclatures that could bear some cleaning up. Glenville is one of the few neighborhoods here with a unique name and successful branding, so I would hesitate to lump it in with anything else, even for short term gain. And "University Circle" is on my nomenclature hit list already. I'd rather call that Glenville than vice versa.
March 29, 20187 yr Despite not being a circle, University Circle has been called that for a long time, and houses a university. I don't really know where you're coming from on that one.
March 29, 20187 yr Somewhat similarly, the Innova project's website describes its geography as being the "Upper Chester district of the historic Hough neighborhood:" http://www.thefinchgroup.com/case-studies/innova/ Just throw "Historic" in front of Glenville and boom!
March 29, 20187 yr Author Despite not being a circle, University Circle has been called that for a long time, and houses a university. I don't really know where you're coming from on that one. Except it had a circle.... "In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck
March 29, 20187 yr Despite not being a circle, University Circle has been called that for a long time, and houses a university. I don't really know where you're coming from on that one. Well, there's the circle problem. And it's a little long and cumbersome. It's not terrible, it's halfway down the hit list. I do somewhat prefer Doan's Corners.
March 29, 20187 yr It is a bit cumbersome, but I think that bus rapid transit vehicle has long since left the station. ;D
March 30, 20187 yr Can you elaborate on why you believe Glenville has good branding and University Circle does not? Just curious! I made a thread for this long ago. Cleveland has some awkward nomenclatures that could bear some cleaning up. Glenville is one of the few neighborhoods here with a unique name and successful branding, so I would hesitate to lump it in with anything else, even for short term gain. And "University Circle" is on my nomenclature hit list already. I'd rather call that Glenville than vice versa. ✌︎??✚?☭????
March 30, 20187 yr Can you elaborate on why you believe Glenville has good branding and University Circle does not? Just curious! Until recently, UC contained very little residential. Most residential in its area is assigned to Glenville, Hough, Fairfax, Little Italy or a suburb. Compare to Oakland in Pittsburgh or Clifton in Cincinnati, both of which include their own neighborhood areas with generations of former residents. As a destination, UC has solid branding. As a neighborhood, it's had almost nothing to call its own until the boom of the last decade. There used to be a lot of mixed use there, before the hospitals tore everything down, but several place-names were in use back then even if UC was one of them. And that was all bulldozed. Glenville's branding is limited to Superman and a bunch of NFL prospects, but that's more than most comparable neighborhoods can claim. Anyone who follows football or comic books has heard of Glenville.
April 3, 20187 yr Tons of renders of the new mixed-use building at 1400 East 105th Street. http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2018/04062018/index.php
April 3, 20187 yr Glenville is still a treasure in many ways... https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5194676,-81.6200958,3a,75y,200.89h,83.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sqJXBYMZ8uiG7A9h1raJRrQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5202845,-81.6214683,3a,75y,36.91h,115.45t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sihbEZdqSj0A0BipdzPoCwQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5222188,-81.6247393,3a,75y,41.07h,85.3t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sH0U3RxlQLG_ts--ZVROxjQ!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DH0U3RxlQLG_ts--ZVROxjQ%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D69.849754%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656 https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5213186,-81.6231953,3a,75y,27.46h,96.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sKivThkBr7GQFhrb2jU2sFQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
April 3, 20187 yr ^ there is some great homes in the area around East Blvd and Parkgate. There are a few nice intact streets there.
April 3, 20187 yr I have to mention again how great this project looks. It seems to be designed well and fits the urban form well. Mayor Jackson deserves credit for deploying these neighborhood funds properly. Aim at communities in need that are bordering stronger areas and build form there. Maybe they can deploy the next round of funding to Buckeye Road near Shaker Square.
April 3, 20187 yr ^^^I'm gonna be that guy for the second time in a week: none of those locations is in Glenville...which, as the city defines it, is only the stuff east of Rockefeller Park. I love this new project, but kind of bummed to see the old gas station at the NW corner of 105th and Ashbury get knocked down for a park. It's got nifty art deco or midcentry lines (a bit unclear) and I'd imagine would be fairly easy to convert to a bare bones incubator retail space, which sounds like part of this development's mission.
April 3, 20187 yr ^Are you a hoarder, @straphanger? https://www.google.com/maps/@41.5182831,-81.6154879,3a,31.3y,314.67h,89.51t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sypuG9SJIv5PIoRK3F64P3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
April 4, 20187 yr ^^^I'm gonna be that guy for the second time in a week: none of those locations is in Glenville...which, as the city defines it, is only the stuff east of Rockefeller Park. I love this new project, but kind of bummed to see the old gas station at the NW corner of 105th and Ashbury get knocked down for a park. It's got nifty art deco or midcentry lines (a bit unclear) and I'd imagine would be fairly easy to convert to a bare bones incubator retail space, which sounds like part of this development's mission. Even if it's not when you cross 105th and Superior going towards St.Clair you can go down streets like North and South Blvd, and see the huge homes that still exist. Glenville also still has a decent amount of brick Row houses, walkups, Tri/Quadplex homes.
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