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1 minute ago, freefourur said:

Couldn't they incorporate VoA into a mixed-use development?

 

Apparently, they aren't interested and that's one of the reasons they want to move them away from that major intersection and onto Lee Avenue, a street that honestly has no identity anymore and I guess they are giving it one now. I'm going to reach out again today and hopefully can get something extra if I do I'll report back.

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This appears to be a situation where I agree with councilman.  Is this Kevin Conwell's ward?

1 minute ago, freefourur said:

This appears to be a situation where I agree with councilman.  Is this Kevin Conwell's ward?

Yes it is

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Good for Kevin. And good for Glenville!

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

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http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3105&CASE=NE 2019-008

 

Northeast Design Review Case Report

ASHBURY AVENUE TOWNHOMES

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Project Information

Northeast Case #  NE 2019-008

Address:E. 120th St and Ashbury Ave

Company:B.R. Knez Construction, Inc

Architect:B. R. Knez Construction, Inc

Description:

Seeking conceptual approval for a 19-unit townhouse development.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

24 minutes ago, KJP said:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3105&CASE=NE 2019-008

 

Northeast Design Review Case Report

ASHBURY AVENUE TOWNHOMES

 Return to Case List | Start Over | Print Report (PDF format)

Project Information

Northeast Case #  NE 2019-008

Address:E. 120th St and Ashbury Ave

Company:B.R. Knez Construction, Inc

Architect:B. R. Knez Construction, Inc

Description:

Seeking conceptual approval for a 19-unit townhouse development.

Hmm.  That is an interesting site for a whole host of reasons.  I definitely would like to know more details with price point being first on the list.

Upthread there was news of Knez doing 5 townhouses a block south of here, too.

Development creeping closer and closer to EC. Lets get the merger done with so we can start seeing that area turn around.

Also in Glenville nearby to Wade Park:

 

Cleveland's Long-Awaited Eastside Market Now Open in Glenville

Posted By Sam Allard on Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 2:32 pm

 

After years of planning and fundraising, the Eastside Market officially opened Wednesday morning at E. 105th Street and St. Clair. The multi-million restoration of the facility that served Glenville from 1988-2007 will once again provide fresh food and wellness services on Cleveland's east side. 

The 14,000 square foot facility, owned in part by Northeast Ohio Neighborhood Health Services (NEON) and Mazzulo Enterprises II, has billed itself as a full "healthy living urban center." In addition to the grocery store, it will offer a dine-in cafe, carryout foods, cooking demonstration stations for cooking classes and a summer camp. 

“Transforming a food desert into an oasis with an adjacent health center, now that’s a recipe for healthy living," said NEON's President and CEO Willie F. Austing. "Healthy happy people make healthy communities.” 

 

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2019/02/21/clevelands-long-awaited-eastside-market-now-open-in-glenville

The councilman also has secured $500,000 for a park renovation on Parkwood Avenue. 

On 2/12/2018 at 5:50 PM, KJP said:

Five townhomes planned on a largely vacant lot in the 11800-12000 block of Wade Park Avenue by B.R. Knez. Streetviews shows that a dilapidated quadplex stood here and nothing else in 2014. It's possible that quadplex has been demolished since...

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/bza/agenda/2018/crr02-20-2018.pdf

This project just expands the grouping of new construction all the way down East 128th Street.  Itgets further into the old neighborhood, ehich I think is good.  I'm tired of people saying andd writing about how bad the neighborhoods are around Univ. Circle....

1 minute ago, lafont said:

This project just expands the grouping of new construction all the way down East 128th Street.  Itgets further into the old neighborhood, ehich I think is good.  I'm tired of people saying andd writing about how bad the neighborhoods are around Univ. Circle....

 

 

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52 minutes ago, lafont said:

This project just expands the grouping of new construction all the way down East 128th Street.  Itgets further into the old neighborhood, ehich I think is good.  I'm tired of people saying andd writing about how bad the neighborhoods are around Univ. Circle....

 

We have some of the worst poverty surrounding one of the fastest-growing employment districts in Ohio. Stark contrasts are going to get noticed and commented on. I was one of them....

http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2018/08/leveraging-boomtown.html?m=1

East105th-Arthur-2014s.jpg

 

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On 2/21/2019 at 11:54 AM, Htsguy said:

Hmm.  That is an interesting site for a whole host of reasons.  I definitely would like to know more details with price point being first on the list.

Care to share those reasons? lol

15 hours ago, KJP said:

 

We have some of the worst poverty surrounding one of the fastest-growing employment districts in Ohio. Stark contrasts are going to get noticed and commented on. I was one of them....

http://neo-trans.blogspot.com/2018/08/leveraging-boomtown.html?m=1

East105th-Arthur-2014s.jpg

 

 

"Circle North" is in full swing of being SoDoSoPa'ed. 

 

Edit - Also very small side note. I love you website, but the text can be difficult read. Although my vision may not be as good as it used to be. The grey text seems to get lost in the header image, and the bright blue link text is hard to see among the darker blue background. Very minor, but the content is 10/10.

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http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/03012019/index.php#myGallery

 

NORTHEAST DESIGN REVIEW

 

NE2018-038 - Glenville CircleNorth Plaza - Exterior Modification: Seeking Final Approval
Project Address: 1400 East 105th Street
Project Representative: Alex Pesta, City Architecture

 

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"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 2/21/2019 at 11:54 AM, Htsguy said:

Hmm.  That is an interesting site for a whole host of reasons.  I definitely would like to know more details with price point being first on the list.

Care to share those reasons? lol

5 hours ago, KJP said:

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/drcagenda/2019/03012019/index.php#myGallery

 

NORTHEAST DESIGN REVIEW

 

NE2018-038 - Glenville CircleNorth Plaza - Exterior Modification: Seeking Final Approval
Project Address: 1400 East 105th Street
Project Representative: Alex Pesta, City Architecture

 

Circle_North_Plaza_IMG_01.jpg

 

Circle_North_Plaza_IMG_02.jpg

Circle_North_Plaza_IMG_03.jpg

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That looks great imo. Nice space, looks inviting and a nice sit down area for the cafe, and a good mix of greenery along with sculpting areas. Pretty nice.

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Sad to see this nice, brick multi-family home at East 105th and Wade Park is slated to be demolished.....

 

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Recent listing:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1500-E-105th-St-Cleveland-OH-44106/2097611681_zpid/

 

It's one of many east-side demolitions pending at Design Review......

 

DEMO AT 316 E 156TH ST

DEMO AT 856 E 105TH ST

DEMO AT 14500-14522 ST. CLAIR AVE

DEMO AT 888 E 105TH ST

DEMO AT 14830 ST. CLAIR AVE

DEMO AT 12409 SUPERIOR AVE

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/listDR.php?D=NE

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50 minutes ago, KJP said:

Sad to see this nice, brick multi-family home at East 105th and Wade Park is slated to be demolished.....

 

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Recent listing:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1500-E-105th-St-Cleveland-OH-44106/2097611681_zpid/

 

It's one of many east-side demolitions pending at Design Review......

 

DEMO AT 316 E 156TH ST

DEMO AT 856 E 105TH ST

DEMO AT 14500-14522 ST. CLAIR AVE

DEMO AT 888 E 105TH ST

DEMO AT 14830 ST. CLAIR AVE

DEMO AT 12409 SUPERIOR AVE

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/listDR.php?D=NE

I just don't understand how the city just throws away their unique architectural history. This building is in better shape than a lot of buildings that are getting renovation around the city. I wish they could've renovated it as apart of heritage lane or something.

Wow, the city is really going to town on the eastside's remaining stock of mixed use main street structures.  The ones along St. Clair are a real loss.

The city never got out the demo first mentality. 

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2 hours ago, MyPhoneDead said:

I just don't understand how the city just throws away their unique architectural history. This building is in better shape than a lot of buildings that are getting renovation around the city. I wish they could've renovated it as apart of heritage lane or something.

 

I remember Councilwoman Phyllis Cleveland saying, while serving on the LANDMARKS COMMISSION, that she didn't like old buildings. She said she only liked new buildings. I don't remember her explaining why, assuming that she could....

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

3 hours ago, KJP said:

Sad to see this nice, brick multi-family home at East 105th and Wade Park is slated to be demolished.....

 

ISqllclsilgs5t0000000000.jpg

 

Recent listing:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1500-E-105th-St-Cleveland-OH-44106/2097611681_zpid/

 

It's one of many east-side demolitions pending at Design Review......

 

DEMO AT 316 E 156TH ST

DEMO AT 856 E 105TH ST

DEMO AT 14500-14522 ST. CLAIR AVE

DEMO AT 888 E 105TH ST

DEMO AT 14830 ST. CLAIR AVE

DEMO AT 12409 SUPERIOR AVE

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/listDR.php?D=NE

 

What a bummer. Looks like Famicos Fdn. bought this for 55k in 2017, I wonder if they have any plans for the lot other than (as my friend puts it) storage container townhouses. As a YP (with student loan debt and all that jazz) who's looking to buy a double at some point in the future and has an eye for historic architecture I wish the city gave some incentives to keep beautiful (but renovation necessary) structures up and affordable.

 

Clicking around streetview on this, it looks like it began to slide around 2014 or so, 2009 shows it looking pretty solid.

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So I spoke to councilman Conwell on the phone and he rode by the home when I told him about it. He said it isn't supposed to be on the demolition list and wants me to send him the address so he can have it removed. Problem is I can't find it in that list either. 

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City Planning has already removed it from the list, thankfully. Apparently was on the list in error.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

26 minutes ago, MyPhoneDead said:

So I spoke to councilman Conwell on the phone and he rode by the home when I told him about it. He said it isn't supposed to be on the demolition list and wants me to send him the address so he can have it removed. Problem is I can't find it in that list either. 

 

That's good news for now.

 

This one kind of hurts. I love these small brick apartment buildings.

 

 

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Just now, Mendo said:

 

That's good news for now.

 

This one kind of hurts. I love these small brick apartment buildings.

 

 

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The St.Clair Demolition from 14500-14522 hurts the most that's an entire block.

1 minute ago, MyPhoneDead said:

The St.Clair Demolition from 14500-14522 hurts the most that's an entire block.

 

Wow you're right. I put in the wrong address when I was looking through the demo list and didn't see this. What a shame...

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Oh yeah, I found out that the final fisher house build wasn't what the residents agreed to. 

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On 3/9/2019 at 6:15 PM, MyPhoneDead said:

Oh yeah, I found out that the final fisher house build wasn't what the residents agreed to. 

Drove past the Fisher House today - how disappointing.  The architectural design is straight from the 1970's suburban catalog - looks like it could be a funeral home.

 Was the iron fencing supposed to be that foreboding?  I couldn't even find the driveway until I circled around the side streets and saw the gated driveway.  Looks like a horrific suburban fortress.

 

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Somewhat good news, demolition of the two buildings pictured above was denied by local design review. The rest were approved.

 

14500-14522 St. Clair Ave (2 story retail building spanning full block)

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3120&CASE=NE 2019-012

 

316 E 156th St

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3122&CASE=NE 2019-014

 

I say "somewhat" because (A) the city doesn't need local design review's approval to permit building demolition so the city could just approve it anyway, and (2) the Northeast Design Review group has proven toothless before. The beautiful building in Collinwood at 1018 E. 143rd was denied back in November, then approved the second go-round in February without any real explanation why. At best the denial just buys the buildings a couple months. There is practically no chance the owners will look for a developer to rehab them.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3022&CASE=NE 2018-036

Regarding demo, I'll take any good news I can get.

Just an update.

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On 3/19/2019 at 1:27 PM, MyPhoneDead said:

Just an update.

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Looking great, will look better after the street is resurfaced. 

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March 21, 2019 04:57 PM

Retailers chosen for East Side Cleveland incubator

JAY MILLER 

 

Six fledgling businesses have been chosen by the city of Cleveland to locate in Glenville Circle North, a new mixed-use development in the city's East Side Glenville neighborhood. The development is on East 105th Street near Superior Avenue and includes upper-floor apartments above the retail business incubator. It was developed by Boca Raton-based Finch Group and is set to open this summer.

 

MORE:

https://www.crainscleveland.com/government/retailers-chosen-east-side-cleveland-incubator

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

On 3/14/2019 at 1:03 PM, Mendo said:

I say "somewhat" because (A) the city doesn't need local design review's approval to permit building demolition so the city could just approve it anyway, and (2) the Northeast Design Review group has proven toothless before. The beautiful building in Collinwood at 1018 E. 143rd was denied back in November, then approved the second go-round in February without any real explanation why. At best the denial just buys the buildings a couple months. There is practically no chance the owners will look for a developer to rehab them.

 

http://planning.city.cleveland.oh.us/designreview/brd/detailDR.php?ID=3022&CASE=NE 2018-036

 

This is what happened, btw.

So they are going to demolish both the St Clair building and the E 156th St building? The people at City Hall are their own worst enemy

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"I don't like old buildings. I much prefer new buildings" -- onetime Cleveland Landmarks Commission member and Ward 5 City Councilwoman Phyllis Cleveland.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

5 minutes ago, YO to the CLE said:

So they are going to demolish both the St Clair building and the E 156th St building? The people at City Hall are their own worst enemy

 

Evidently yes. Those two were approved by the city planning commision after being denied by local design review. At least according to the CPC website.

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And the point of having a Design Review Commission is....what?

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

This entire thread is why I so passionately disagree with anyone in this city who uses the gentrification argument against new development. This is a problem on the coasts. I WANT gentrification here. We absolutely need it if we ever expect to have a chance at saving much of the East Side's built environment. Keep rents going up on the west side because we desperately need the spillover

8 minutes ago, YO to the CLE said:

This entire thread is why I so passionately disagree with anyone in this city who uses the gentrification argument against new development. This is a problem on the coasts. I WANT gentrification here. We absolutely need it if we ever expect to have a chance at saving much of the East Side's built environment. Keep rents going up on the west side because we desperately need the spillover

 

YESSSSSS X 10000000

22 minutes ago, KJP said:

And the point of having a Design Review Commission is....what?

As you posted:

 

"I don't like old buildings. I much prefer new buildings" -- onetime Cleveland Landmarks Commission member and Ward 5 City Councilwoman Phyllis Cleveland."

 

Apparently so people like this who don't like old buildings can set their stupid A**es on them. SMH!  That is insane!

12 minutes ago, YO to the CLE said:

This entire thread is why I so passionately disagree with anyone in this city who uses the gentrification argument against new development. This is a problem on the coasts. I WANT gentrification here. We absolutely need it if we ever expect to have a chance at saving much of the East Side's built environment. Keep rents going up on the west side because we desperately need the spillover

 

You WANT displacement of poor people. Ok.

4 minutes ago, imjustinjk said:

 

You WANT displacement of poor people. Ok.

 

If someone from Outhwaite Homes, for example, is displaced by development, there is a 99.9999% chance that they will be moved somewhere newer and safer. So it's not always terrible. 

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I think he's talking re-population, not displacement. You can't displace people who aren't there.

"In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage." -- John Steinbeck

I'm all for people who have lived for generations in a neighborhood to improve their lives and their homes collectively, but I have to agree to an extent on gentrification. I would invite anyone to take a drive down Union and E. 117th.  The street is abandoned except for maybe five families at the most.  Many of the standing structures are four-unit structures which look like regular houses from the street. You couldn't give a house away in this area of town- and I challenge anyone to find a single for-sale sign on ANY sidestreet off of Union, or Kinsman for that matter. 

 

 

Back on topic?

Cant this go into a gentrification thread for controversial sake?

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