22 minutes ago, smjjms said:

All around I agree with the rest of you all about liking the new version compared to the old, but I really liked the bottom glass market area on the old version… feel like it would have offered great weather coverage  for markets that happen there. Wonder why they did away with that 

Agreed that atrium feature on the bottom of the old version was super cool and should have stayed in the plans in my opinion

2 hours ago, smjjms said:

All around I agree with the rest of you all about liking the new version compared to the old, but I really liked the bottom glass market area on the old version… feel like it would have offered great weather coverage  for markets that happen there. Wonder why they did away with that 

It's still partly there, it just shrunk. There's also a random fireplace in the plaza now... So that's likely still a bit in flux

4 hours ago, jebleprls22 said:

It's still partly there, it just shrunk. There's also a random fireplace in the plaza now... So that's likely still a bit in flux

The fireplace would be sweet though. It would be very useful (at least in the evenings) for 8-9 months out of the year. 

The final site compliance plan has been filed. This is the first time a final plan has been filed. To this point, only preliminary plans had been filed. We are one step closer to this project becoming a reality.

 

https://portal.columbus.gov/Permits/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Engineering&TabName=Engineering&capID1=21LAC&capID2=00000&capID3=00832&agencyCode=COLUMBUS&IsToShowInspection=

It’s in this months downtown commission meeting, which is the 28th. Couple more renderings also appeared and the garage doesn’t look as bad now. 

Looks like the tower will top out at 352'. That would make it the 13th tallest building in the city currently, but by the time it gets built it will be the 15th tallest because of the Hilton and OSU towers.

 

 

It's so exciting that these tall buildings are finally moving forward. I have a feeling the 2020s in Columbus are going to be like the 2010s in Austin and Nashville in regards to a lot of tall buildings being built. Both of those cities really shot up in height this past decade, it's honestly really impressive.

Their application says they plan to remove the overhead power lines. Best news I've heard all day. 

Here's the submission for anyone who wants to browse through it: https://columbusohdev.app.box.com/s/mun4w417zxrys1ukrxnauo9nk7014qdm

Here's the view from High Street, which I don't think we've seen before:

 

 

And here is the height by floor:

 

8 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

Here's the view from High Street, which I don't think we've seen before:

 

 

And here is the height by floor:

 

Would be cool for the corner restaurant on high to eventually be replaced by a 5-6 story. That probably won’t happen though. 

23 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Would be cool for the corner restaurant on high to eventually be replaced by a 5-6 story. That probably won’t happen though. 

 

Agreed. That would be a great spot for a boutique hotel. 

I still think the commission needs to push back on that garage facade.  There's no reason for exposed garages in the core to begin with let alone in this location. 

 

I'd be ok if they even did something as simple as the Goodale Garage fins. Certainly not the greatest but it's something. 

 

Keeping with a market theme, Let's just borrow from the Corn Palace and make it rotating mural made of corn cobs. Surely thats better than nothing. /s

 

Also. It is a southern facing facade so there may be potential for a green wall. 

 

Doesn't make sense to let the developers get 90% there and just ignore other issues with such an iconic project in a significant location. 

 

Edit. I also see an arch. Have we heard any official updates about the plans to turn Spruce (and maybe others) into pedestrian only during certain times? 

Edited September 23, 20213 yr by DTCL11

Apparently they had planned to have aluminum cladding over the entire garage at somepoint...it appears the red and white rectangles on that side were drawn in the PDF directly, not in the CAD program:

 

 

They might be trying to see if they can get away with having no cladding on that part of the garage face.

 

Not really any news on this project per se, but things are obviously still happening behind the scenes as a Final Site Compliance Plan was submitted to the city two days: https://portal.columbus.gov/Permits/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Engineering&TabName=Engineering&capID1=21LAC&capID2=00000&capID3=01081&agencyCode=COLUMBUS&IsToShowInspection=

 

This is the second Final Site Compliance Plan to be submitted, the first being submitted on 9/12. 

1 hour ago, cbussoccer said:

Not really any news on this project per se, but things are obviously still happening behind the scenes as a Final Site Compliance Plan was submitted to the city two days: https://portal.columbus.gov/Permits/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Engineering&TabName=Engineering&capID1=21LAC&capID2=00000&capID3=01081&agencyCode=COLUMBUS&IsToShowInspection=

 

This is the second Final Site Compliance Plan to be submitted, the first being submitted on 9/12. 

That's some news if I've ever heard any! Hopefully they can get all the way through the approval process this winter for a Spring 2022 ground breaking.

CU article discussing the project getting through the first step. 
 

North Market Tower Proposal Clears First Hurdle

 

I think these are a few new renderings that haven’t been in any articles yet. 

Edited November 19, 20213 yr by VintageLife

Excellent news! It's nice to hear the adjacent property owners are largely in support of this development as well.

Still no pushback on that exposed parking deck?  

 

I also want to see more plans on the streets. The renderings show turning Wall St and Spruce St back to two way traffic. Adding additional direction of traffic mean less spaces for pedestrian focused revamps. 

 

At the very least, Spruce between Wall and Front should be pedestrian only 100% of the time. 

20 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

At the very least, Spruce between Wall and Front should be pedestrian only 100% of the time. 

IMO that’s fantasy… you want to add say 1,000 avg more people to an already congested area and cut off a main traffic artery… that would be a logistical disaster 

Edited November 20, 20213 yr by wpcc88

Spruce is not an artery.

I wouldn't call shutting down one half of one block of Spruce for pedestrian only access a logistical nightmare. Instead of turning west to get to Park St*, you're funneled to High where you're inconvenienced by going a block or two out of the way. It still allows access to the Hampton garage and the entrance of the new hotel etc. But that's kind if the issue though with Columbus in general. It's so afraid to go that extra step. We are going to value the passage of cars for ease over a welcoming plaza in a half stretch of a block. I'm generally going to fall into the ban cars side of things.  (I should also correct myself and say park instead of front. I forgot it changes names at vine) 

 

Arguably one of the biggest attractions in columbus is also woefully undeserved for bike infrastructure. 3 bike loops and an old standalone bike rack that blocks the sidewalk isn't enough. So a plaza will add space to enhance bike ability as well. 

 

You'll never convince me that the logistics of being able to drive on that stretch of Spruce should be valued over a pedestrian only plaza. Not to mention expanded access and space for markets etc. Especially when places in New York, LA, Detroit, etc have done the same to much more high traffic locations. 

The main issue is the direct access from 670 is via Spruce and I believe that’s where the log jam would occur.  That is why it 100% is a main artery for that neighborhood.

 

To be fair I don’t hate your idea I just don’t think in this situation 30 yards of a plaza is really going to move the needle.

 

You're not talking about the part of Spruce where the closure idea is being floated. Between Front/Park and Wall is currently one-way in the opposite direction from the flow off of 670. Closing the section on the north side of the North Market would not affect the rest of Spruce Street. It is essentially the driveway into the North Market parking lot and is in no way an arterial.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Spruce+St,+Columbus,+OH+43215/@39.9724575,-83.0040973,156m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88388f2651a257d9:0xe554911e52f24ae2!8m2!3d39.972512!4d-83.0059936

Edited November 20, 20213 yr by GCrites80s

4 minutes ago, GCrites80s said:

You're not talking about the part of Spruce where the closure idea is being floated. Between Front/Park and Wall is currently one-way in the opposite direction from the flow off of 670. Closing the section on the north side of the North Market would not affect the rest of Spruce Street. It is essentially the driveway into the North Market parking lot and is in no way an arterial.

 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Spruce+St,+Columbus,+OH+43215/@39.9724575,-83.0040973,156m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x88388f2651a257d9:0xe554911e52f24ae2!8m2!3d39.972512!4d-83.0059936

Am I incorrect in saying that they’re trying to make it a two way? If that’s the case a light will be put at Park & Spruce making in arterial. I know exactly where it is and know exactly what a log jam that intersection is pre-Covid and even currently. It flows from 670, so again how is it not?

Everything coming off of 670 has to turn left or right at the intersection since it is one-way currently. Closing it would make no difference to traffic coming off 670. In fact it would make it easier since the cycle of cars going one-way west on Spruce would be eliminated.

The tower is on the Downtown commission agenda for this month. They are in the request for action phase, not 100% sure what that means, but seems like it is the last approval needed before starting? 

1 hour ago, VintageLife said:

The tower is on the Downtown commission agenda for this month. They are in the request for action phase, not 100% sure what that means, but seems like it is the last approval needed before starting? 

 

I believe you are correct! It will be interesting if they are asked about the TMUD credits and what impact that might have on them getting started.

Very exciting! Would be cool if there are always at least 2 300ft+ buildings being constructed at any given time this decade.

Edited December 9, 20213 yr by TIm

So even though it’s 31 stories, it’s not going to be much taller than the Hilton. I believe it tops out at 352’. Kind of disappointing. 

Edited December 9, 20213 yr by WagChase

7 minutes ago, TIm said:

Very exciting! Would be cool if there are always at least 2 300ft+ buildings being constructed at any given time this decade.

 

I think this is very possible. We have this, WMC Tower, and the tower on the peninsula that we already know about. Harmony tower is also a potential one to add to the mix, although I'm not overly confident on that one. But that's just what we know about now.

 

I think we'll see at least one more tower on the peninsula that, at the very least, comes close to 300 feet. We have the Greyhound station that could potentially result in a sizeable tower. We also know that the convention center will still need another large hotel, even after the Hilton Tower opens. I think there's a very good chance that hotel will end up being in the 300'+ range. On top of all of that, there will most likely be other projects being announced that aren't even on our radar. So it's not crazy to think that we could have seven to eight 300'+ towers pop up in the next decade.

 

 

1 minute ago, WagChase said:

So even though it’s 31 stories, it’s not going to be much taller than the Hilton. I believe it tops out at 352’. The roof line is 332’. Kind of disappointing. 

 

You are disappointed that we have a 352' tower about to start construction across the street from a 362' tower that is nearly topped out? I'm not sure why.

 

I was just hoping it would be a little taller. Don’t get me wrong, I’m super excited and happy for the new towers. 

12 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

I think this is very possible. We have this, WMC Tower, and the tower on the peninsula that we already know about. Harmony tower is also a potential one to add to the mix, although I'm not overly confident on that one. But that's just what we know about now.

 

I think we'll see at least one more tower on the peninsula that, at the very least, comes close to 300 feet. We have the Greyhound station that could potentially result in a sizeable tower. We also know that the convention center will still need another large hotel, even after the Hilton Tower opens. I think there's a very good chance that hotel will end up being in the 300'+ range. On top of all of that, there will most likely be other projects being announced that aren't even on our radar. So it's not crazy to think that we could have seven to eight 300'+ towers pop up in the next decade.

 

 

I'm thinking the same thing! I know I've said it on here before, but I really do think we are about to see a height boom this decade similar to what Nashville and Austin saw in the past 10 or so years. If you go check out both of those cities "tallest building" wikis it seems half of the tallest buildings in both cities were built in the 2010s and more are currently under construction. I'm very optimistic about us joining that trend!

4 minutes ago, WagChase said:

I was just hoping it would be a little taller. Don’t get me wrong, I’m super excited and happy for the new towers. 

I'm pretty happy for anything over 300ft but it would be absolutely amazing to see a tower proposed at 600+ft. 

3 minutes ago, TIm said:

I'm pretty happy for anything over 300ft but it would be absolutely amazing to see a tower proposed at 600+ft. 

That’s what I’m wishing for. I wonder how many feet the 34 story peninsula tower will be. I’m guessing 360’ to 370’ range. 

9 minutes ago, WagChase said:

That’s what I’m wishing for. I wonder how many feet the 34 story peninsula tower will be. I’m guessing 360’ to 370’ range. 

I would imagine around that. Not sure if the 4 floors of parking garage was included in that 34 stories.

3 minutes ago, TIm said:

I would imagine around that. Not sure if the 4 floors of parking garage was included in that 34 stories.

It is as far as I understand. I believe it’s 30 stories of apartments on top of the 4 story garage. 

4 hours ago, TIm said:

I'm thinking the same thing! I know I've said it on here before, but I really do think we are about to see a height boom this decade similar to what Nashville and Austin saw in the past 10 or so years. If you go check out both of those cities "tallest building" wikis it seems half of the tallest buildings in both cities were built in the 2010s and more are currently under construction. I'm very optimistic about us joining that trend!

Only thing that I think will ultimately hinder that is the pandemic.

Not surprising, but still great news to see we’re one step closer to the NM tower becoming a reality!

 

North Market Tower Approved

 

“Also heard at the meeting was the latest proposal to build a 31-story tower on the North Market parking lot. The design of the project has not changed since it was approved by the Historic Resources Commission last month – it will incorporate an 11,000-square-foot North Market expansion, 170 residential units, 60,000 square feet of office space, a 212-room hotel and a 350-space parking garage, as well as additional bar, restaurant, and retail space.

 

Representatives of the project’s developer, Rockbridge, answered questions and provided examples of the different materials chosen for the exterior of the building. The commission voted unanimously to approve the project.

 

A mural shown on some of the renderings of the tower that would fill a portion of the building’s western-facing wall was not a part of the approval – the developer will need return to the commission in the future with more detailed information about the proposed artwork.”

 

https://www.columbusunderground.com/downtown-commission-affordable-housing-proposed-north-market-tower-approved-bw1/?fbclid=IwAR1cwUeFtTIAlpcukY0Dhv0DJqCHI2flzQnm5m-wJr3WIqSx1NsQur4VOAA

Bring it on! Can't wait for this next tower to start rising. Also psyched for the expanded North Market!

At the very least we are going to see both North Market Tower as well as the proposed tower on the Scioto Peninsula go up at the same time.  Based on the demand and Columbus' continued steady growth and low inventory I can only imagine more are to come in the future pipeline...

I think we knew this was inevitable, but it sure is good to have it be official! Excited to watch this one go up and it's cool this will expand on the North Market so it actually benefits residents and visitors to the city.

 

Have there been any renderings out there of what this would look like in the skyline?

Edited December 16, 20213 yr by TIm

After securing this type of approval, how long does it usually take before shovels are in the ground?

45 minutes ago, Mogilny89 said:

After securing this type of approval, how long does it usually take before shovels are in the ground?

I think that varies wildly from project to project, but I do remember hearing earlier this year they were targeting Spring 2022 for groundbreaking. I'm not sure if this getting approved yesterday keeps the project on track for that timetable though.

On 12/9/2021 at 12:39 PM, cbussoccer said:

 

I think this is very possible. We have this, WMC Tower, and the tower on the peninsula that we already know about. Harmony tower is also a potential one to add to the mix, although I'm not overly confident on that one. But that's just what we know about now.

 

I think we'll see at least one more tower on the peninsula that, at the very least, comes close to 300 feet. We have the Greyhound station that could potentially result in a sizeable tower. We also know that the convention center will still need another large hotel, even after the Hilton Tower opens. I think there's a very good chance that hotel will end up being in the 300'+ range. On top of all of that, there will most likely be other projects being announced that aren't even on our radar. So it's not crazy to think that we could have seven to eight 300'+ towers pop up in the next decade.

 

According to this article, the Harmony Tower has been abandoned. http://blog.constructionjournal.com/plans-for-harmony-tower-in-central-ohio-abandoned

That sucks, but I wouldn’t be shocked for another decent proposal for that location at some point. It’s a great spot, and if the condo units in the PNC building sell quickly, someone will want to capitalize on it. 

🚨🚨 NEW TOWER ALERT 🚨🚨

 

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=516628722&row=134

 

5 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

🚨🚨 NEW TOWER ALERT 🚨🚨

 

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/searchAction.jsp?action=displayOECase&oeCaseID=516628722&row=134

 

What does this particular application mean in terms of progress/timeline?

1 minute ago, TH3BUDDHA said:

What does this particular application mean in terms of progress/timeline?

 

Based solely on what I've seen with other projects, you don't see these applications pop up until the developer is fully prepared to start construction. Applications were filed for the Hilton 2.0 tower about 2 months before the crane went up. Crane applications were filed for the WMC tower about 2 months before the cranes went up. I think we could expect to, at the very least, see a ground breaking for this tower sometime around Memorial Day.