2 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

Also found the original approved proposal for the 3rd street garage and I'm salty.  I'd literally prefer it to be an exposed parking deck than that terrible curtain. 

 

I will never understand why they didn't just replicate the Goodale garage. Is it a masterpiece? No, but it matches the CC so much better and is a lot more polished/interesting than the disaster the 3rd St garage turned out to be.

 

Anyway, there is so much long term potential with the 3rd St lots and the Drury Inn. I personally feel the Hilton has shown that with a little work we can find ways to complement the CC pretty beautifully with new structures. 

The surface lot on Goodale is good for a one off. No matter what, that section of Goodale is a feeder. At best, it gets guests closer to the Short North. I'm less concerned about what or when it gets developed since it's pretty much a plug and play plot that they can fill eventually  It neither makes or breaks urbanism or the convention center.  Since they completed the Northern expansion and garage, they've pretty much boxed themselves into a corner unless they're going to tear down parts of the Northern expansion. Granted, that could very well be the next focus since it's such a no brainer. 

 

For me, I'm thinking about what transforms the convention center to be able to attract new and different conventions and/or events or the ability to host multiple events beyond hotel rooms so that East Lot is more important to see movement on sooner rather than later IMO.  It also provides access to the same rail lines the Amtrak proposal entails and therefore could be used as an alternative Amtrak site with more room for Amtrak centered amenities. (Not that I think it will ever actually happen as desired) 

 

It would be interesting to see the county/convention center take a page from the North Market or future COTA transportation center and use public land to add in residential and better mixed use. 

 

As a reminder of what could have been 😪

 

 

5 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

The surface lot on Goodale is good for a one off. No matter what, that section of Goodale is a feeder. At best, it gets guests closer to the Short North. I'm less concerned about what or when it gets developed since it's pretty much a plug and play plot that they can fill eventually  It neither makes or breaks urbanism or the convention center.  Since they completed the Northern expansion and garage, they've pretty much boxed themselves into a corner unless they're going to tear down parts of the Northern expansion. Granted, that could very well be the next focus since it's such a no brainer. 

 

For me, I'm thinking about what transforms the convention center to be able to attract new and different conventions and/or events or the ability to host multiple events beyond hotel rooms so that East Lot is more important to see movement on sooner rather than later IMO.  It also provides access to the same rail lines the Amtrak proposal entails and therefore could be used as an alternative Amtrak site with more room for Amtrak centered amenities. (Not that I think it will ever actually happen as desired) 

 

It would be interesting to see the county/convention center take a page from the North Market or future COTA transportation center and use public land to add in residential and better mixed use. 

 

As a reminder of what could have been 😪

 

 

If we are talking about the same lot, I'm pretty sure that lot on Goodale is used for parking for the people who work in the Smith Hardware building and is also where they park all the cars being valet parked at those first few restaurants in the Short North. You can see the valets running up and down Goodale when it's busy.

Alright now, let's not let the underachieving parking garage dilute the victory that is the new Hilton Tower.

3 minutes ago, TIm said:

If we are talking about the same lot, I'm pretty sure that lot on Goodale is used for parking for the people who work in the Smith Hardware building and is also where they park all the cars being valet parked at those first few restaurants in the Short North. You can see the valets running up and down Goodale when it's busy.

 

So thats part of the long term acquisition that I think the convention center would be wise to acquire and tuck a garage in there (that could also still be used by Smith Brothers guests). There's a little sidewalk that goes under the viaduct to connect the Triangle lot to Smith Brothers. 

 

The Goodale lot often discussed for quick development is to the west of the Goodale Garage, behind the Cap. 

 

Of course, Smith Brothers could probably benefit from digging a 2 level garage with more green space at entry level if money was no object as well. Lol

4 minutes ago, PrestoKinetic said:

Alright now, let's not let the underachieving parking garage dilute the victory that is the new Hilton Tower.

But.... but..... WE NEED TO COMPLAIN!

Let's think of it as 'Constructive Criticism' 

Your friend here in Cleveland likes it a lot.  How many feet is it topped out at?  Also, when will the first guests arrive?

34 minutes ago, Sapper Daddy said:

Your friend here in Cleveland likes it a lot.  How many feet is it topped out at?  Also, when will the first guests arrive?

Top of the crown is about 325' above the main entrance, but closer to 336' if you count the grade change as you go north along High Street. 

Scheduled to open at the end of August.

17 hours ago, DTCL11 said:

The surface lot on Goodale is good for a one off. No matter what, that section of Goodale is a feeder. At best, it gets guests closer to the Short North. I'm less concerned about what or when it gets developed since it's pretty much a plug and play plot that they can fill eventually  It neither makes or breaks urbanism or the convention center.  Since they completed the Northern expansion and garage, they've pretty much boxed themselves into a corner unless they're going to tear down parts of the Northern expansion. Granted, that could very well be the next focus since it's such a no brainer. 

 

For me, I'm thinking about what transforms the convention center to be able to attract new and different conventions and/or events or the ability to host multiple events beyond hotel rooms so that East Lot is more important to see movement on sooner rather than later IMO.  It also provides access to the same rail lines the Amtrak proposal entails and therefore could be used as an alternative Amtrak site with more room for Amtrak centered amenities. (Not that I think it will ever actually happen as desired) 

 

It would be interesting to see the county/convention center take a page from the North Market or future COTA transportation center and use public land to add in residential and better mixed use. 

 

As a reminder of what could have been 😪

 

 

I love the second one! What were they thinking????

On 6/29/2022 at 3:24 PM, DTCL11 said:

 

So thats part of the long term acquisition that I think the convention center would be wise to acquire and tuck a garage in there (that could also still be used by Smith Brothers guests). There's a little sidewalk that goes under the viaduct to connect the Triangle lot to Smith Brothers. 

 

The Goodale lot often discussed for quick development is to the west of the Goodale Garage, behind the Cap. 

 

Of course, Smith Brothers could probably benefit from digging a 2 level garage with more green space at entry level if money was no object as well. Lol

Personally I think a tower there would do well - maybe 15-20 stories. It'd look great off 670 as well

I think a tower would do and look good there as well. I think a tower would look great in alot of places. Ideally, I'd rather not have to have the convention center spend so much money and space on parking to begin with.  But the convention center and associated hotels require more parking (allegedly). So from a practical standpoint, I'm more inclined to prefer to tuck the parking in obscure places like that triangle than take up that adjacent property for parking because the convention center has to choose either or. The Goodale and 3rd street garages both being examples of parking structures I'd rather have situated in a no man's land between viaducts leaving space for more hotel or convention space directly adjacent to the convention facility.  

The crane has been fully removed and traffic is flowing along High again.

View of Tower from Vine Street coming into the Arena District:

On 7/3/2022 at 1:05 PM, Ginger Planner said:

 

 

I think one of the things that sticks out to me now that the barriers are down is how wide High street is here. 7ish lanes?  And NW BLVD between High and Front is even wider. Let's hope there's some plan to help that. At least an extension of the NW Boulevard medians would help. I won't hold my breath though. 

 

And I don't recall the exact details, but in the Ohio Center Way revamp, was there a plan or concept to cap one of the openings for Greenspace in the turn around?  Or is that just a hope of mine?

21 minutes ago, DTCL11 said:

 

I think one of the things that sticks out to me now that the barriers are down is how wide High street is here. 7ish lanes?  And NW BLVD between High and Front is even wider. Let's hope there's some plan to help that. At least an extension of the NW Boulevard medians would help. I won't hold my breath though. 

 

And I don't recall the exact details, but in the Ohio Center Way revamp, was there a plan or concept to cap one of the openings for Greenspace in the turn around?  Or is that just a hope of mine?

Agree 100% with this. The short north is a nice walkable area, but i just wish the road was a lot more narrow. 

View of the Hilton from inside Warby Parker in the Short North. 
 

Does anyone know if the crown will have some sort of lighting? I drove by and it’s nearly invisible in the nighttime skyline. 

6 minutes ago, Kriegs said:

Does anyone know if the crown will have some sort of lighting? I drove by and it’s nearly invisible in the nighttime skyline. 

 

Yes, there will be lighting. It looks like the fins that go up at the very top will be lit, along with the signage.

 

 

 

 

 

Here's what it looked like Sunday night (I almost forgot I had taken this photo)...

 

 

On 2/7/2022 at 10:02 AM, PizzaScissors said:

Yes. Per the approved Downtown Commission application, the top of the tower will have lighting on the tops of the vertical mullions as well as some illuminated Hilton signage. There will be more street-level lighting elements as well, at the entrance canopy and along High Street.

This is from a couple pages back...

Signage going up! 

Nice view from the front of the North Market until Market Tower blocks it (not that I’m complaining about that). 

Got these a couple hours ago

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, CbusOrBust said:

Got these a couple hours ago

 

 

 

Now image looking down over those railings to see a bustling passenger train platform.

 

5 minutes ago, Airsup said:

Now image looking down over those railings to see a bustling passenger train platform.

 

Don’t do that to us, give us all these dreams, only for them to never happen

(7-17,23-22)

 

 

 

Lamps

 

Various views from around town

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure if this has been talked about before but this needs some lighting features at night it’s almost invisible.

^It’s still under construction, patience grasshopper.

 

I noticed signage at the top of the north face of the tower this morning. 
 

15 hours ago, 614love said:

Not sure if this has been talked about before but this needs some lighting features at night it’s almost invisible.

Scroll up maybe 6 or 7 post

Here’s how the hiring push at the new downtown Hilton is going as opening date nears

 

Hilton Downtown Columbus is embarking on a hiring push as it prepares to open its brand new tower.

 

The new tower – dubbed "Hilton 2.0" – will create the state's only 1,000-room hotel. It is planned to be substantially completed by Aug. 26. A soft opening is planned for Aug. 29.

 

That means hotel general manager Christian Coffin has just a few weeks to fill 214 new positions, which effectively doubles the staff size.

 

More below:

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2022/07/27/hilton-downtown-hiring-push-new-tower.html

 

https://columbusunderground.com/hilton-names-executive-chef-for-tower-expansion-restaurants-sp1/

 

"At the helm of the Hilton’s new dining experiences is Executive Chef Sebastian La Rocca. The Argentinian-born chef, who has worked in some notable and honored kitchens across the world, brings a list of accolades to Columbus including nabbing a spot on San Pellegrino’s World’s 50 Best Discoveries list in 2021. Most recently working in Puerto Rico, La Rocca will trade the tropics for all four seasons as he brings his family to Central Ohio. He’s attracted to the region for the same reasons many are – he sees it as a great place to raise his daughter. He also sees an opportunity to put Columbus on the culinary map."

They did a helicopter lift this morning (presumably hvac), did anyone get any photos? Kicking myself for not having my camera on me!

1 minute ago, FudgeRounds said:

They did a helicopter lift this morning (presumably hvac), did anyone get any photos? Kicking myself for not having my camera on me!

Saw people posting this on Reddit, sadly no pictures yet. 

2 minutes ago, FudgeRounds said:

They did a helicopter lift this morning (presumably hvac), did anyone get any photos? Kicking myself for not having my camera on me!

I saw it too! Wasn’t able to get any pics either 😞 hopefully there’s some video of it. 

This is the only photo I managed to take, it’s frankly atrocious. Someone please redeem it. 

Friend of mine got this photo:

What’s the advantage of using a helicopter lift vs using a crane? 

6 minutes ago, Kriegs said:

What’s the advantage of using a helicopter lift vs using a crane? 

 

My guess is renting a helicopter for a couple hours is cheaper than continuing to rent the tower crane for X number of weeks for it to sit mostly unused.

8 minutes ago, Kriegs said:

What’s the advantage of using a helicopter lift vs using a crane? 

 

Whether a lift crane is present. ;-) 

 

Jk. I believe it was just timing. 

1 hour ago, DTCL11 said:

 

Whether a lift crane is present. ;-) 

 

Jk. I believe it was just timing. 

Yeah I think I remember an article saying it would have been installed with the crane, but it was delayed. My guess is the helicopter was cheaper than renting the crane for an additional couple of weeks.

19 minutes ago, VintageLife said:

Yeah I think I remember an article saying it would have been installed with the crane, but it was delayed. My guess is the helicopter was cheaper than renting the crane for an additional couple of weeks.

This plus they were waiting on the crane removal to finish out the exterior of the building on High Street, along with the areas where it had bracing members inside the building. They needed the crane gone to keep those other pieces moving to meet the schedule.

1 hour ago, cbussoccer said:

 

My guess is renting a helicopter for a couple hours is cheaper than continuing to rent the tower crane for X number of weeks for it to sit mostly unused.

Tower crane was $50,000/month for a 6 story building I was involved in - I image this was much more. 

6 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Tower crane was $50,000/month for a 6 story building I was involved in - I image this was much more. 

 

Wow, LC must have blown some serious cash by having the tower crane for their 8-story Riversouth building sit there for about four years.

20 minutes ago, cbussoccer said:

 

Wow, LC must have blown some serious cash by having the tower crane for their 8-story Riversouth building sit there for about four years.

Maybe you can get a deal for renting it by the year haha

50 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Tower crane was $50,000/month for a 6 story building I was involved in - I image this was much more. 

That "All Crane" business right off 71 South must just be raking in cash. Just need somewhere to store all these cranes and be able to set them up and just watch the money flow in. Anyone want to start another crane rental business and undercut them?

If anyone has instagram @hiltoncolumbus and @cbusconventions both have great video of the delivery. 

3 hours ago, TIm said:

That "All Crane" business right off 71 South must just be raking in cash. Just need somewhere to store all these cranes and be able to set them up and just watch the money flow in. Anyone want to start another crane rental business and undercut them?

ALL Crane is doing just fine, they’re one of if not the largest crane rental business in the country(based in Cleveland), so good luck! 🤣🤣🤣

8 minutes ago, wpcc88 said:

ALL Crane is doing just fine, they’re one of if not the largest crane rental business in the country(based in Cleveland), so good luck! 🤣🤣🤣

According to their site they're used on the OSU tower project as well

If only I had this view earlier today.