Posted September 17, 200420 yr Group plans Main St. condos -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nonprofit to renovate Over-the-Rhine storefronts as well By Ken Alltucker Enquirer staff writer Denver-based Mercy Housing plans to renovate a half-dozen storefronts and build 25 condos on or near Main Street as part of its purchase of 200 low-income Over-the-Rhine apartments from Mercy Health Partners. Mercy Health Partners will transfer ownership of the Over-the-Rhine units and give $3.6 million to Mercy Housing. Mercy Housing also wants the city to kick in nearly $550,000 through a loan and a lead-abatement grant. Cincinnati's community development department has given tentative approval to a $290,990 loan and a $259,000 lead-abatement grant.
February 13, 200520 yr Here are a few projects that are in the near-term completion stages for 2005. These were picked from Downtown Cincinnati Inc.'s 4th Quarter State of the Downtown. Other info came from the Cincinnati MLS, the Hamilton County Auditor and other various websites. If any of these create a discussion, I'll split them off if necessary. Excelsior Row/Sycamore Terrace (Mt. Auburn) Address: 1780-1810 Sycamore St. Description: New construction Developer: Vineyard Homes Inc. Units: 10 single-family homes Unit size: 2 BR Status: 3 or 4 completed, $229,000-$325,000 http://www.sweeneysells.com/excelsior/excelsiorindex.html http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=866100&prop=1003043 Mercy Housing Address: Various, mostly along Main St. Description: Non-profit renovation/management of existing units as well as 6 storefronts Developer: Mercy Housing, Inc. Units: 160, low-income (25 condo/135 apartments) Unit size: n/a Status: ongoing NO IMAGE 31 W. Thirteenth St. Address: 31 W. Thirteenth St. Description: Renovation of former efficiency apt. complex...Built in 1905 Developer: Model Management/3CDC/Washington Park Housing Ltd. Partnership Units: 37 Unit size: unknown Status: now accepting applications, I believe The Lackman Address: 1237 Vine St. Description: Building from 1900 Developer: City Center Properties Units: 8 rental apartments, plus ground floor commercial Unit size: unknown Status: work begins Spring 2005 http://www.cincinnatilofts.com/vine1237_index.htm 1220 Vine St. Address: 1220 Vine St. Description: Building from 1901 Developer: City Center Properties Units: 15 rental apartments, plus ground floor commercial Unit size: unknown Status: work begins Spring 2005 http://www.cincinnatilofts.com/vine1220_index.htm 1311-1313 Spring St. Address: 1311-1313 Spring St. Description: Buildings from 1865/1885 Developer: Urban Sites/Sam Crew Construction LLC Units: 2 townhomes Unit size: 1600-2000 SF Status: under construction, $189,000-$229,000 http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=862493&prop=997704 New City Lofts Address: 110-112 E. Thirteenth St. Description: Buildings from 1860/1882 Developer: B2B Equities LLC Units: 6 loft condos Unit size: 1290-2355 SF Status: for sale, $149,900-$224,900 http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=911389&prop=1058863 http://www.b2bequities.com/forsale.html Mulberry Views Address: 126-134 Mulberry St. Description: New construction Developer: Vineyard Homes Units: 5 single-family homes Unit size: unknown, but up to 2100 SF Status: almost completed, $209,900-$275,500 (SOLD OUT) http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=924884&prop=1076426 Before and after: 1314 Spring St. Address: 1314 Spring St. Description: Building from 1885 Developer: Studio 1405 LLC Units: 4 condos Unit size: Status: almost completed and for sale, $125,000-$140,000 http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=887893&prop=1029514 216 Orchard St. Address: 216 Orchard St. Description: Renovation of an old church from 1859 Developer: Bill Slone Units: 1, possibly 2 townhomes Unit size: 1800-3000 SF Status: under construction
February 13, 200520 yr Beautiful. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
February 13, 200520 yr Cincy is just really running w. this urban living concept......color me "impressed"! I am so glad to see this happening!
February 13, 200520 yr Nobody is going to buy that spring st house. it is right next to a very noisy daycare business. Nice unit though.
February 13, 200520 yr Nice unit though. Is this the appropriate time for a Beavis and Butthead line? Very nice...I'm curious about how this level of development and re-development compares with other times - is OTR on a small upswing, a major upswing, or is this just the regular background level of development we'd see at any time?
February 13, 200520 yr It is on a major swing in some areas..other areas it will take many many years for anything good to happen.
February 13, 200520 yr It is great to see some development working up Vine. I hope it is sustainable development. That street could be great!
February 13, 200520 yr Are those rental properties on Vine going to be market-rate? It would seem they would be in a good locatation to rent to Art Academy students or even young professionals, although that area still has a ways to go. I hope at least it's not being developed for more section 8 housing because the area could really benefit from the synergystic effect of the Kroger condos, Art Academy, and some market-rate rental units, in addition to many other projects planned in the vicinity. I'm excited to see how that area's doing a year from now.
February 13, 200520 yr 31 west thirteenth is going to be section 8 voucher. :x Why waste money rehabbing when it is going to be trashed as soon as they are occupied.
February 13, 200520 yr Developers and landlords "waste money" on section 8 housing because they get a guaranteed return on their investment, assuming they attract tenants. Therefore, it's more appealing to a low-income rental provider to serve section 8 renters rather than low-income renters who might not pay their rent every month. My understanding of section 8 doesn't go beyond this basic premise. But, I hope to goodness the government would come up with a system that requires some accountability and prevents both parties from abusing the system. Also, it was my understanding 31 W. 13th was not section 8 housing. It is geared more towards working families who must show proof of employment and income to live there. I doubt 3CDC or Washington Park Housing would be involved in bringing more section 8 housing into that neigborhood. Although, I've been wrong before.
February 14, 200520 yr As I understood it, 31 W. Thirteenth was going to be sold as "low-income", but whether or not that would involve section 8, I do not know. Various searches for section 8 apartments for rent did not turn up this property. X--In all honesty, there are buildings missing here and there but OTR is pretty well intact for an area that was built mostly 100-150 years ago. Of course, some streets are more together than others...some have multiple empty blocks. Check the pic at the end of this response--it's only part of OTR, but it gives you the idea. RIVERVIEWER--I'd say this is a major upswing. Comparing it to the 1995-2003 projects listed on DCI's State of the Downtown, last year's activity just blows that away. 2005, well, hopefully it will be even better. HAYNESm007--I believe 1220 Vine and the Lackman will be geared to Art Academy students. I think they're going to be market-rate, which is what City Center Properties usually does.
February 14, 200520 yr Liberty St. was widened and mowed down all buildings on its south side. A Kentucky Fried Chicken, gas station, and some kind of health clinic built in the 80's are there as well as a half dozen empty lots. Along with Washington Park school, Kroger, and that weird barn next to Kroger these are the only newer buildings in the neighborhood. But there are at least 100 empty lots and probably another 100 buildings that appear to be falling down.
February 14, 200520 yr Author Here is an article from this week's Business Couriere. OTR park area set to bloom Owner gets lots of interest in 40 parcels Dan Monk and Lucy May Courier Senior Staff Reporters Tom Denhart, one of Over-the-Rhine's largest low-income landlords, is looking to sell dozens of properties near Music Hall, a move that could hasten the redevelopment of the blocks surrounding Washington Park. Denhart said there is "a lot of interest" in the roughly 40 parcels he owns in a six-block area north of the troubled park, where civic and business leaders are charting major new investments aimed at sparking a wave of revitalization in the southwestern corner of Over-the-Rhine.
February 14, 200520 yr :clap:Oh this is great news! I thought Hart had liquidated all of his properties a few years ago and didnt realize he had 40 more??? ReSTOC wants to partner with other major property owners to ensure that a critical mass of buildings in that area gets redeveloped, Hutzel said. "It doesn't do us any good to target one or two properties and put $100,000 or $200,000 into them," he said. "We need a critical mass." I don't want RESTOC redeveloping properties in critical mass proportions. I would rather them go one or two properties at a time and do a good rehab! Smith is working on a $5 million renovation of a low-income apartment building at 13th and Race, converting 79 one-bedroom units into 37 larger apartments geared to the working poor. Model Group would like to buy more property in the area, but "prices are going up. well thats good!
February 14, 200520 yr ^ Cincinnati_Kid, I went ahead and posted that article in the Washington Park thread too.
April 16, 200520 yr Some cat named Wade Dent is rehabbing 6 units at 1923/1925/1929 Elm (corner of Elm and Henry). These apartments were built in 1880. Yes, I know this project is pretty small but I have to give the guy props for investing some money in OTR and redoing the building.
April 17, 200520 yr That's an amazingly plain bldg. for 1880. Maybe it has had previous alterations or somthing.
April 26, 200520 yr Work will soon begin on 132 Mulberry (Mulberry Views/Vineyard Homes). Also, 79 Peete St. is about to undergo $100,000 worth of repairs.
April 28, 200520 yr The following information culled from DCI's 2005 Center City Residential Report (PDF). Photos are from the website of the Hamilton County Auditor (property search). CONDOS/TOWNHOMES 1720 Pleasant St. City of Cincinnati Planned renovation of 1875 building 5 condo units...approx. 600 SF 72 E. Clifton Ave./79 Peete St. Shabob LLC Under renovation 6 condos, 1024-2580 SF $157,000-$182,000 Dandridge Townhomes 508-518 Dandridge St. City of Cincinnati Planned development on vacant lots, first proposed in 2003 6 townhomes, 1750 SF $185,000 Goodfellows Lofts 1306 Main St. Urban Legacy LLC 1820 building under renovation 5 units KD Lamp 1900 block Elm St. Open Door Development Planned renovation of old manufacturing building 80 units Sohn Brewery 242 W. McMicken Ave. KDW Properties LLC Planned renovation of 1930s warehouse 20 condo/townhouse units, 800-2000 SF $75,000-$150,000...renovation begins early 2006 St. Charles 1206 Main St. Bray Development Planned renovation of 1866 building 3 condos, 1300-3200 SF, 2-3 BR/1-2.5 BA $149,900-$274,900 SINGLE FAMILY (DISCLAIMER: I've listed "demolition" in many of these where the square footage of the new residences doesn't square up with the buildings' footprints. I have listed "renovation" where they are similar. These are just guesses by me and have not been verified.) 1805 Frintz St. (unsure where this house will end up, as the lot for this address doesn't show) Pre-development $250,000 29 E. Clifton Ave. Sondra Walls Pre-development, involves renovation of 1880 structure 1850 SF, $185,000 49 E. Clifton Ave. Sondra Walls Pre-development, involves renovation of two-family 1880 building 1640 SF, $164,000 55 E. Clifton Ave. Chancie Walls/Sondra Walls Pre-development, involves renovation of 1870 apartment building 3182 SF, $298,200 57 E. Clifton Ave. Chancie Walls/Sondra Walls Pre-development, involves renovation of 1882 apartment building 3086 SF, $292,600 1918 Vine St. Sondra Walls Pre-development, involves demolition of 1876 two-family dwelling 3096 SF, $294,000 47 E. Clifton Ave. Vernon W. Menifee III Pre-development, involves demolition of an 1865 two-family dwelling 31 E. Clifton Ave. Roy and Ruth Orling Pre-development, renovation of an 1880 single-family dwelling 2 Hust Alley Roy and Ruth Orling Pre-development, renovation of an 1870 single-family dwelling 2361 SF, $236,100 39 E. Clifton Ave. Paul and Carol Ann Koeninger Pre-development, renovation of an 1870 two-family dwelling (gray one in middle) 1240 SF, $124,000 75 Peete St. Paul and Carol Ann Koeninger Predevelopment, renovation of 1870 single-family dwelling 38 E. Clifton Ave. David and Carolynn Durrett Predevelopment, renovation of 1869 single-family dwelling 1342 SF, $234,200 Light House/Manor House (Lofts on Broadway) 1111-1113 Broadway Urban Sites Predevelopment, on market soon and can be seen on the OTR Tour of Living (June 5th) 2500 SF (Light)-3400 SF (Manor) (what the buildings formerly looked like): Pendleton Mews Spring, Pendleton and Dandridge Streets Project kicked off in 2002 by Over-the-Rhine Foundation and Verdin Co. Now they're saying fall 2005--we shall see.... 17 units, $250,000+
April 29, 200520 yr This is great news for OTR. Some of those buildings are in very high-crime sections of the neighborhood and (if sold/rented at market rate) would be the only true market rate housing literally within 2 blocks. True urban pioneers! My too-good-to-be-true list: 2 Hust Alley 1720 Pleasant St. 1918 Vine St. and all the double-digit E. Clifton St. addresses.
April 29, 200520 yr Why can't they use eminent domain on all of OTR and then refurbish every single building. That would clear up crime in downtown instantly.
April 29, 200520 yr Can you guys describe the geographic patterns of which areas are seeing most of these projects and which areas have thus far received little such attention? I'd have to look up every address to figure this out for myself, but I'm sure many of you can describe it off the top of your head.
April 29, 200520 yr ^unusualfire, The last thing OTR needs is a broad-based, city-coordinated redevelopment. If redevelopment is to occur, it has to happen organically, through the creativity of residents and dedicated developers. Nobody who lives in OTR today expects a sanitized environment. Which is why there are so many cool, interesting people down here.
April 29, 200520 yr ^PigBoy, Generally, the areas around Main St have seen the more redevelopment. On Main itself, on 13th between Clay and Main, on Clay, Orchard St., 14th east of Main, Broadway, Spring St, Sycamore, Mulberry. Sporadic redevelopment is happening all over OTR, though. A building here, a building there. Come to the OTR Tour of Homes on June 5th and see for yourself!
April 29, 200520 yr Many of you may know this, but the KD Lamp building above is inappropriately named, and "old manufacturing building" doesn't do justice to what was made there. KD Lamp was only the most recent tenant. More famously, that building was part of the Christian Moerlein Brewery complex. If I'm not mistaken, it was the barrel house and bottling plant. Fingers-crossed on that one. I don't think a final proposal has been submitted. And wasn't the Sohn Brewery also Clyffside?
April 29, 200520 yr ^ Yes, the Sohn Brewery was Clyffside. PigBoy...the single-family ones I posted yesterday are pretty much all at/near the corner of Vine and Clifton, and then going a block or so east from there. The last two are on the southeast side of OTR around the Pendleton sub-neighborhood.
May 20, 200520 yr I don't want to bring anybody down, but I also want to post on this thread some of the buildings OTR is going to lose. Demolition permits were applied for the following property: 23 E. Thirteenth It was actually being listed for $239,000: "Deutche Gegenfeitige Derlicherungs - Gefellechaft von Cincinnati & the Stafford in Historic Over-the-Rhine." I guess there were no takers. LISTING Goodbye:
May 22, 200520 yr Here are a few more: 1331 Spring St. single-family home, $199,000 http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=932894&prop=1086323 1124 Main St. former home of Bar Cincinnati being sold for $525K...sale pending http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=904146&prop=1049682 1400 block of Walnut St. 11 lots on upper Walnut near Liberty (around Grammer's) for sale as a package ($595K) Hopefully this gets developed! http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=936949&prop=1091271 1300 block of Spring St. 11 contiguous lots for sale for $250K This area is ripe for development! http://www.huff.com/web/search/SearchDetails.asp?mls=912534&prop=1060170 Magnolia St. I wish these babies could be cleaned up. They're right near Music Hall!
May 22, 200520 yr Let's hope the sale of the Bar Cincinnati building doesn't fall through. It'd be great to see another bar down there.
May 29, 200520 yr A couple of ceremonies for National Homeownership Month in OTR (outside of the Tour of Homes, of course): New City Lofts ribbon-cutting 110 E. Thirteenth June 3rd, 10 AM City Lofts on Dunlap ribbon-cutting 1908 Dunlap June 7th, 10 AM
June 3, 200520 yr From the 6/3/05 Enquirer: City Lofts on Dunlap project seen as urban breakthrough By Joe Wessels Enquirer contributor Those taking the Over-the-Rhine Tour of Homes on Sunday will get a new experience: Seeing the first completed condominium project north of Liberty Street in the historic neighborhood. The 15,000-square-foot City Lofts on Dunlap is inside the nearly 120-year-old Joseph Scheid & Sons Co. brick furniture factory, which most recently was home to the R.J. Patton awning company. It sits at 1908 Dunlap St., near Findlay Street, and marks the first major housing revitalization project completed in the area anchored by the market. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050603/BIZ01/506030362/-1/rss
June 3, 200520 yr I tip my hat to the builders and buyers. They should get an UrbanOhio award. For those going to Tour of Homes in OTR - take pictures! I got out voted and going to Summer Fair at Coney Island instead.
June 19, 200519 yr A few more.... * 217-219 Orchard St. has been converted to condos going for $369K each. I believe this is an Urban Sites property. 217 Orchard listing 219 Orchard listing * 1319 Spring St. has been rehabbed as a single-family, selling for $269.9K. This was built in 1900. 1319 Spring listing Before and after: * The 11 lots I mentioned earlier on the 1300 block of Spring St. are in the process of being bought. * To add to the photo of the City Lofts on Dunlap that were posted from the OTR Tour of Homes (City Photos), here are a couple more from its listing showing a common courtyard:
June 20, 200519 yr Pigboy asked (about a month ago) about where the OTR development was. This bldg is directly across the street from the KD Lamp/Moerlein bldg and right around the corner from the Dunlap lofts bldg This area is just a few blocks NW of Findlay Market. There is a bar at Dunlap & Henry, Charlies Dunlap Cafe, that stands to make a fortune during development of these properties. :-) They have a cool beer can collection, too. Mark
June 24, 200519 yr * The Otis Brown guy I mentioned in the Mulberry Hill thread also has permits to destroy two structures in OTR. The owner/tax address is a woman who lives on Milton St. I hope it is investment (e.g. something gets built) in the neighborhood and not a way to avoid maintenance. The properties are 126 E. Liberty (1873) and an adjacent garage at 128 E. Liberty (no big loss):
June 28, 200519 yr I believe this property was just purchased by Vernon Raider who is also doing the top of Main St north of Liberty.
June 28, 200519 yr ^What exactly is happening on that NE corner of Main and Liberty? If it's gonna be condos that a huge piece of the puzzle for that area. Replace that Quick Mart at Liberty and Sycamore and the unsightly building behind with housing and you'll have one big fluid neighborhood.
June 28, 200519 yr Replace that Quick Mart at Liberty and Sycamore and the unsightly building behind with housing That quickmart is a nuisance for the mulberry hill area. The drug dealing and prostituion going on and around the parking lot and the trash and lighting are disgusting. Is the building behind the quicky the one that is owned by the OTR foundation? That would have a great view from a restored balcony.
June 29, 200519 yr * News on 1720-1722 Pleasant St. The city of Cincinnati has a preferred developer agreement with Jennifer LeMasters and Matthew Wirtz, who have expressed an interest in the redevelopment of the vacant property. They now have 12 months to come up with a plan and, if a workable plan comes about, to purchase from the city. http://city-egov.rcc.org/BASISCGI/BASIS/council/public/child/DDD/13333.pdf BACKGROUND The City owned property located at 1720-1722-Pleasant Street is one of over twenty City owned properties in the Findlay Market area of Over-the-Rhine that have been offered to the public through Request For Proposals (RFP’s) on several occasions. The developers Lemasters and Wirtz responded to one of the RFPs. Their proposal includes the development of three condominium units and off street parking. The proposed development is one half block from the newly renovated Findlay Market House. It is very important to move forward with the proposed development to create the energy necessary to revitalize the Findlay Market area of Over The Rhine. http://city-egov.rcc.org/BASISCGI/BASIS/council/public/child/DDD/13332.pdf Development Schedule (PDF), p. 9 EDIT (7/6/05): This passed council unanimously at the 6/29/05 meeting.
June 29, 200519 yr other than 101 and 105 Peete st, 100 E Clifton and one other on Race, I do not know of any other OTR Foundation properties. With the development on Peete, Frintz, and soon to be E Clifton on the West, and the Vernon Raider project on the East, a big squeeze will be placed on that quicky mart. Some other redevelopment is bieng done on the corner of Peete and Main. I do not have the details on who is doing this or what their plan is but I do also know that some big names are eyeing Rothenburg School for a Condo development. The tire shop mentioned above was purchased by Vernon Raider only a couple of months ago (serious tax problems is what I heard) so watch this area within the year and it should turn around. E Clifton will be the next big push and it will only be a matter of time before it is bought up after the Hohlbein project just north of it is completed. The goal is to take Liberty and north and it is only a matter of time. Another project I am sure you are all aware of it on Conroy, the Klotter Development, we have decided to include it in the October 9th tour of homes because these places are wonderful. 5 more will be built in addition to the 9 already standing. I lived on Klotter 12 years ago and let me tell you things have changed.
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