September 22, 20222 yr 24 minutes ago, jmicha said: Hopefully sooner than later. Sucks to have lost this building, but what's done is done. A large scale development of that whole block with a higher portion fronting Central Parkway and a 5 story portion fronting the 12th/Main corner would be a great addition to the neighborhood. It would also serve as a nice entrance to OTR while on the streetcar to have a substantial new development right next to the first stop in the neighborhood. After some thought, I think that you could pull off something larger than a plain five over one since the streetcar is adjacent. Something comparable to the blonde or seven at broadway.
September 22, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Dev said: I don't think they can. They are applying before the IDC takes effect so I don't see how the city has the right to deny this permit.
September 22, 20222 yr 49 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Does the HCB have no say over parking lots in OTR? Looks like they are part of the chain
September 22, 20222 yr Common Pleas Judge Lisa Allen ruled Wednesday against OTR Adopt in the lawsuit over Freeport Row. I haven't been able to confirm the status of the development itself (does KEAN Ventures even still exist?) or whether OTR Adopt can/will appeal, but interesting nonetheless.
September 23, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, 1400 Sycamore said: They have gone this far. I'd be shocked if he doesn't appeal. How many times can one appeal?
September 23, 20222 yr 39 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: How many times can one appeal? All that previous stuff was just objections to the Magistrate's decisions. Judge Allen has given the first appealable judgment. He gets one appeal as a matter of right. This next one. Very cheap. No hearing, just oral argument for an hour and a couple of briefs they have already written once, more or less. And, it takes about 6 months.
September 23, 20222 yr 30 minutes ago, taestell said: 16 Bit was also free (except for pinball). This is why I loved going there. I don't drink, but I'd get the root beer they had on tap and play games. My go tos were the Terminator game and Rampage. That and Donkey Kong Country if the SNES was available. I do wish pinball was free though. Pinball is my favorite arcade game. I always tell my husband that if we had more space and it wouldn't be incredibly audible through walls/ceilings and disturb our neighbors that I'd get a pinball machine. Edited September 23, 20222 yr by jmicha
September 23, 20222 yr On 9/22/2022 at 11:28 AM, jmicha said: Hopefully sooner than later. Sucks to have lost this building, but what's done is done. A large scale development of that whole block with a higher portion fronting Central Parkway and a 5 story portion fronting the 12th/Main corner would be a great addition to the neighborhood. It would also serve as a nice entrance to OTR while on the streetcar to have a substantial new development right next to the first stop in the neighborhood. It would be unfortunate to have a building with a large parking garage at that location. C'mon, developers, let's build apartments over ground floor retail with no parking and a streetcar stop right in front!
September 23, 20222 yr ^Just an FYI, you can always turn down (or off) the volume on any pinball machine when you open the coin door. "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
September 23, 20222 yr 5 minutes ago, ColDayMan said: ^Just an FYI, you can always turn down (or off) the volume on any pinball machine when you open the coin door. But where's the fun in that?!
September 26, 20222 yr On 9/23/2022 at 11:30 AM, jmicha said: This is why I loved going there. I don't drink, but I'd get the root beer they had on tap and play games. My go tos were the Terminator game and Rampage. That and Donkey Kong Country if the SNES was available. I do wish pinball was free though. Pinball is my favorite arcade game. I always tell my husband that if we had more space and it wouldn't be incredibly audible through walls/ceilings and disturb our neighbors that I'd get a pinball machine. The reason they (16-Bit/Pins) charge for pinball is because those machines are much more expensive to maintain.
September 30, 20222 yr On 9/22/2022 at 10:07 PM, 1400 Sycamore said: All that previous stuff was just objections to the Magistrate's decisions. Judge Allen has given the first appealable judgment. He gets one appeal as a matter of right. This next one. Very cheap. No hearing, just oral argument for an hour and a couple of briefs they have already written once, more or less. And, it takes about 6 months. Ouch! Judge Allen's decision is about as weak as one comes. Get this: this Court has determined that the Magistrate has "properly determined the factual issues and appropriately applied the law." Appellant OTR A.D.O.P.T.'s Objections to the Magistrate's Decision are OVERRULED and the Magistrate's Decision filed on April 28, 2022 is ADOPTED by this Court. After reviewing the transcript of the hearing before the Historic Conservation Board', the Court further finds that there was no indication that Danny Klingler was appearing on behalf of OTR A.D.O.P.T. Therefore, OTR A.D.O.P.T. lacks standing in the instant appeal. She was supposed to review the decision de novo. Instead she yada yada's the decision and then actually rules as the only articulated basis for the decision being Klingler not identifying himself at the hearing as acting on behalf of OTR ADOPT? She should have made specific findings from the record. I thought his appeal wouldn't stand a chance. Now I'm not so sure.
October 3, 20222 yr On 9/21/2022 at 12:25 PM, jwulsin said: I just noticed this at the former 16-Bit space at the corner of Walnut/Mercer... looks like Columbus-based Level One Bar + Arcade will be opening in that space: Some more details, including a targeted opening in December: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/10/03/level-one-otr.html
October 7, 20222 yr Interesting announcement from Mayor Pureval. $3.5 of the Carryover Budget will be spent on Main Street improvements and expanding Ziegler Park, as part of a "violence reduction strategy". Where could Ziegler be expanded to? The parking lots next to the basketball court? The Peaslee parking lot?
October 7, 20222 yr 4 minutes ago, carnevalem said: Interesting announcement from Mayor Pureval. $3.5 of the Carryover Budget will be spent on Main Street improvements and expanding Ziegler Park, as part of a "violence reduction strategy". Where could Ziegler be expanded to? The parking lots next to the basketball court? The Peaslee parking lot? I think the plan is to close Woodward and Yukon Streets to expand the park. “All truly great thoughts are conceived while walking.” -Friedrich Nietzsche
October 7, 20222 yr The HCB Packet has a lot of good looking projects in it, most I've seen in awhile, good to see. Not sure if this was already posted. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/planning/historic-conservation/historic-conservation-board/october-10-2022-case-materials-and-staff-reports/
October 9, 20222 yr OTR Adopt has appealed .. https://www.courtclerk.org/data/image_view_stream.php Edit: Yeah, apologies, Liberty and Elm/Freeport Row Edited October 10, 20222 yr by Pdrome513
October 10, 20222 yr 1 hour ago, Dcs3939 said: Appealed what? The link is broken. I’m assuming the Liberty and Elm project.
October 11, 20222 yr First Lutheran church has scaffolding going up. Looks like the bell tower might be coming down soon unless there was an update I never heard about to actually just fix the problem without making it ready for earthquakes.
October 13, 20222 yr On 10/11/2022 at 1:19 PM, ucgrady said: First Lutheran church has scaffolding going up. Looks like the bell tower might be coming down soon unless there was an update I never heard about to actually just fix the problem without making it ready for earthquakes. In July the first Lutheran church and Otr A.D.O.P.T. came to an agreement to stabilize the bell tower. So I’m assuming the scaffolding is for stabilization purposes. I hate the needless crap that Otr A.D.O.P.T. is doing with the elm and Liberty appeals, but this is one that they genuinely got right.
October 13, 20222 yr If only they would spend all their time working to preserve & restore historic structures instead of blocking new construction on vacant lots!
October 13, 20222 yr Looks like the repair permit was issued on October 10th: https://cagismaps.hamilton-co.org/PropertyActivity/cagisreport?APD=2022P07466
October 21, 20222 yr 3CDC plans to expand Ziegler Park Cincinnati Center City Development Corp., which manages Ziegler Park for the city, plans to vacate all or parts of two streets in Over-the-Rhine and fold them into the park to address public safety and gun violence issues in the neighborhood. Earlier this week, Cincinnati City Council approved $3.5 million for the effort, which could start construction as soon as November. 3CDC CEO Steve Leeper told council earlier this week the Ziegler Park extension would “create a lot of different opportunities for recreation, art and passive leisure.” The park is home to a pool and play area. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/10/21/3cdc-ziegler-park-expansion.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
October 21, 20222 yr 2 hours ago, ColDayMan said: 3CDC plans to expand Ziegler Park Cincinnati Center City Development Corp., which manages Ziegler Park for the city, plans to vacate all or parts of two streets in Over-the-Rhine and fold them into the park to address public safety and gun violence issues in the neighborhood. Earlier this week, Cincinnati City Council approved $3.5 million for the effort, which could start construction as soon as November. 3CDC CEO Steve Leeper told council earlier this week the Ziegler Park extension would “create a lot of different opportunities for recreation, art and passive leisure.” The park is home to a pool and play area. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/10/21/3cdc-ziegler-park-expansion.html I hope that the empty storefront will still be able to get filled.
October 22, 20222 yr If you mean the new building, Leeper told Council a new restaurant was going in there by early next year from a proprietor who already has a Main Street restaurant. If you mean the former Takeaway, Leeper sounded optimistic about a tenant but didn't seem to have specifics.
October 24, 20222 yr Will they actually bury the overhead utilities on those streets, as shown in the rendering? I hope so, but am not optimistic.
October 24, 20222 yr 5 minutes ago, taestell said: Will they actually bury the overhead utilities on those streets, as shown in the rendering? I hope so, but am not optimistic. That would explain the extremely high cost though
October 24, 20222 yr On 10/21/2022 at 8:49 PM, Pdrome513 said: If you mean the new building, Leeper told Council a new restaurant was going in there by early next year from a proprietor who already has a Main Street restaurant. I think it'll be the Liberty's/The Pony guys. On 10/21/2022 at 8:49 PM, Pdrome513 said: If you mean the former Takeaway, Leeper sounded optimistic about a tenant but didn't seem to have specifics. 3CDC isn't the Takeaway's landlord; Urban Sites is. 3CDC should provide commercial leasing/TI support to landlords on Main who aren't filling their spaces. Maybe a master lease agreement or something. Edited October 24, 20222 yr by Miami-Erie added context
October 24, 20222 yr That type of arrangement is already in place for some storefronts on Main Street, but I'm not sure if the former Takeaway space is one of those.
October 25, 20222 yr 17 hours ago, taestell said: Will they actually bury the overhead utilities on those streets, as shown in the rendering? I hope so, but am not optimistic. Yes. That work for underground utilities will be starting in early November.
October 25, 20222 yr 15 hours ago, taestell said: That type of arrangement is already in place for some storefronts on Main Street, but I'm not sure if the former Takeaway space is one of those. Which storefronts?
October 25, 20222 yr Author Moerlein owner's $30 million restoration of OTR brewery buildings moves forward By Andy Brownfield – Senior staff reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Oct 25, 2022 A planned $30 million renovation of historic Over-the-Rhine brewery buildings by the new owner of the Cincinnati Beverage Co. has received a key approval it needs to move forward. Cincinnati's Historic Conservation Board on Monday approved three measures to allow the restoration of the former Felsenbrau brewing building at 242 W. McMicken Ave. back into a production brewery. It is part of a $30 million plan by John Richardson, chairman of the board of SugarCreek, to renovate three historic brewing buildings, including Clyffside Brewery and the Jackson brewery. SugarCreek is one of Cincinnati's largest private companies, and in May Richardson acquired Cincinnati Beverage Co., the owner of historic beer brands like Christian Moerlein, Hudepohl and Little Kings. The company owns 30 other historic beer names, and Richardson told me previously some could be revived under his ownership. MORE
October 25, 20222 yr The one I'm thinking of is the storefront where the Play Library is located. That's part of Good Fellows Hall which was an UrbanSites project but with retail spaces leased and master planned by 3CDC.
October 25, 20222 yr 3 hours ago, taestell said: The one I'm thinking of is the storefront where the Play Library is located. That's part of Good Fellows Hall which was an UrbanSites project but with retail spaces leased and master planned by 3CDC. 3CDC owns that condo just like they own the retail condos at Duveneck, Lackman, and Trideca that Urban Sites also developed. To the best of my knowledge, 3CDC does not have a master lease anywhere on Main.
October 27, 20222 yr Author Marilyn Scripps, Urban Sites set to redevelop five Over-the-Rhine properties By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Oct 27, 2022 Five vacant Over-the-Rhine buildings owned by the heir to the Scripps fortune will be redeveloped by longtime neighborhood developer Urban Sites and will receive property tax incentives from the city of Cincinnati. WDC LLC, which is owned by Marilyn Scripps, plans to build a $4.2 million project across five addresses – 1400 and 1408 Walnut St., 106 and 110 E. 14th St. and 1400 Clay St. Urban Sites will develop the buildings on behalf of WDC LLC. The project includes 24 market-rate residential units and 2,466 square feet of commercial space. There will be three storefronts in that space. MORE
October 27, 20222 yr 36 minutes ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said: Marilyn Scripps, Urban Sites set to redevelop five Over-the-Rhine properties By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Oct 27, 2022 Five vacant Over-the-Rhine buildings owned by the heir to the Scripps fortune will be redeveloped by longtime neighborhood developer Urban Sites and will receive property tax incentives from the city of Cincinnati. WDC LLC, which is owned by Marilyn Scripps, plans to build a $4.2 million project across five addresses – 1400 and 1408 Walnut St., 106 and 110 E. 14th St. and 1400 Clay St. Urban Sites will develop the buildings on behalf of WDC LLC. The project includes 24 market-rate residential units and 2,466 square feet of commercial space. There will be three storefronts in that space. MORE FINALLY
October 27, 20222 yr Those Scripps properties have already had some demo work being done in the past few weeks. 1400 Walnut in particular has had the upper floor boarded windows opened up and I've noticed trash being hauled out. This block of Walnut/Clay is really one of the last major sections of OTR south of Liberty left to be redeveloped in terms of abandoned buildings. Next step is infill on some of these parking lots!
October 28, 20222 yr 6 hours ago, taestell said: Let's hope that the Grammer's site can be redeveloped in the coming years! My first thought as well, lots of potential with all the Wade / Scripps sites that have been hanging around for the last few years.
October 28, 20222 yr On 10/25/2022 at 12:31 PM, Miami-Erie said: 3CDC owns that condo just like they own the retail condos at Duveneck, Lackman, and Trideca that Urban Sites also developed. To the best of my knowledge, 3CDC does not have a master lease anywhere on Main. Pretty sure you are correct, the only other master lease I can recall are the storefronts at 1321-1325 Vine. It's not a bad idea for 3CDC to master lease some of the first floor spaces on Main that aren't controlled by Urban Sites. Sign a 40 yr master lease with 3CDC so they can finance the improvements to attract new tenants. It's great that Main has a different feel to it than Vine but businesses still need to make money and until there is more money being spent on Main the businesses are going to continue to turnover there. Obviously, there are businesses that have had success on Main but I know for a fact that a couple of businesses that have relocated to Vine Street from Main have had dramatic increases in sales.
November 2, 20222 yr Case dismissed? Per Suder, " the dismissal was initiated by the First District Court of Appeals, Hamilton County, because the Hamilton County Court of Common Pleas did not include final appealable order language in its ruling to uphold the magistrate's decision. This is a technical issue that will be resolved when the Common Pleas judge re-issues the decision with the correct language." Edited November 3, 20222 yr by Pdrome513
November 3, 20222 yr 13 hours ago, Pdrome513 said: Case dismissed? Help @1400 Sycamore Is this for Liberty and Elm? I know someone had stated awhile back that they believed that the owners were killing the project and putting up the land for sale? If that’s so would that dismiss this case? Just wondering if it is dismissed if it’s because the projects not going forward or if we will actually get to see this built.
November 4, 20222 yr Demo work has finally started on the Co-Hatch project at the Leader furniture building. I'm excited for this one and to get more weekday activity around the market. Also took a photo of the county garage a block away which has gone vertical.
November 5, 20222 yr On 9/29/2022 at 11:06 PM, 1400 Sycamore said: Ouch! Judge Allen's decision is about as weak as one comes. Get this: this Court has determined that the Magistrate has "properly determined the factual issues and appropriately applied the law." Appellant OTR A.D.O.P.T.'s Objections to the Magistrate's Decision are OVERRULED and the Magistrate's Decision filed on April 28, 2022 is ADOPTED by this Court. After reviewing the transcript of the hearing before the Historic Conservation Board', the Court further finds that there was no indication that Danny Klingler was appearing on behalf of OTR A.D.O.P.T. Therefore, OTR A.D.O.P.T. lacks standing in the instant appeal. She was supposed to review the decision de novo. Instead she yada yada's the decision and then actually rules as the only articulated basis for the decision being Klingler not identifying himself at the hearing as acting on behalf of OTR ADOPT? She should have made specific findings from the record. I thought his appeal wouldn't stand a chance. Now I'm not so sure. You folks won't believe the latest on Liberty and Elm. Did OTR ADOPT do this intentionally or was its just sloppiness? You be the judge. When J. Allen ruled against OTR ADOPT she approved the Magistrate's finding that the case should be dismissed but she did not put on a separate entry dismissing the case. So, her ruling was not a "final appealable order." Nonetheless, OTR ADOPT filed a notice of appeal divesting J.. Allen of jurisdiction and the case went up on appeal. The Court of Appeals was not fooled and cut through the legal wrangling and sent it back to J. Allen to dismiss the case - costing the developer yet a few more months. Really.
November 5, 20222 yr 11 hours ago, 1400 Sycamore said: You folks won't believe the latest on Liberty and Elm. Did OTR ADOPT do this intentionally or was its just sloppiness? You be the judge. When J. Allen ruled against OTR ADOPT she approved the Magistrate's finding that the case should be dismissed but she did not put on a separate entry dismissing the case. So, her ruling was not a "final appealable order." Nonetheless, OTR ADOPT filed a notice of appeal divesting J.. Allen of jurisdiction and the case went up on appeal. The Court of Appeals was not fooled and cut through the legal wrangling and sent it back to J. Allen to dismiss the case - costing the developer yet a few more months. Really. So are you saying it’s finally over and they can start construction?….unless they’ve decided to pull the plug on it.
November 5, 20222 yr 5 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: So are you saying it’s finally over and they can start construction?….unless they’ve decided to pull the plug on it. No, sorry. OTR Adopt just got another few months of delay. They will refile the appeal when Judge Allen gets around to a dismissal entry.
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