December 14, 20222 yr https://www.cincinnati.com/restricted/?return=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cincinnati.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F2022%2F12%2F14%2Ffuture-of-historic-otr-building-uncertain-after-partial-demo%2F69706588007%2F Demo started for the new hotel but has stopped.
December 14, 20222 yr Shocking who is behind the appeal to stop it! /s Also in the article the quote about Waller saying "They didn't personally call me to let me know they were going to start"... yeah I don't think that is how the world operates. Edited December 14, 20222 yr by wjh2
December 16, 20222 yr Author 3CDC to redevelop historic OTR buildings into $7 million mixed-use apartment project By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Dec 16, 2022 Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. is planning a $7 million, 29-unit apartment project half a block away from Washington Park. But the project will barely make any money on its investment, according to the city’s financial analysis. One reason is because nine of the apartments at “The Annie” will be affordable housing, six for those making 80% of the area median income and the other three for those making 60%. The project will include 15 one-bedroom units, eight two-bedroom units and six studios, as well as 2,600 square feet of first-floor commercial space. “The Annie is a continuation of our long-standing commitment to bringing more mixed-income housing to Over-the-Rhine, and we’re glad we were able to adjust our financing to add three 60% AMI units to the project based on feedback from the community and our partners at the city,” said Lann Field, 3CDC’s vice president of development. “We’re thrilled to be reactivating these vacant buildings that are surrounded by incredible amenities like The Transept, Queen City Radio, Cincinnati Shakespeare Company and Washington Park.” MORE
December 17, 20222 yr Author Ziegler Park expansion gets final approval despite turbulence By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Dec 16, 2022 A plan by the city and Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. to close streets and expand Ziegler Park in an attempt to address public safety concerns got approval by the city planning commission, despite division and opposition from neighbors in Over-the-Rhine. The vote was 4-1, with member Olivia Smitherman dissenting. The dispute, as it often is, concerned whether the city and 3CDC had sufficiently talked with nearby neighbors and the broader neighborhood about its plans and won the support of enough of them. MORE
December 17, 20222 yr On 12/16/2022 at 8:35 AM, The_Cincinnati_Kid said: 3CDC to redevelop historic OTR buildings into $7 million mixed-use apartment project By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Dec 16, 2022 Cincinnati Center City Development Corp. is planning a $7 million, 29-unit apartment project half a block away from Washington Park. But the project will barely make any money on its investment, according to the city’s financial analysis. One reason is because nine of the apartments at “The Annie” will be affordable housing, six for those making 80% of the area median income and the other three for those making 60%. The project will include 15 one-bedroom units, eight two-bedroom units and six studios, as well as 2,600 square feet of first-floor commercial space. “The Annie is a continuation of our long-standing commitment to bringing more mixed-income housing to Over-the-Rhine, and we’re glad we were able to adjust our financing to add three 60% AMI units to the project based on feedback from the community and our partners at the city,” said Lann Field, 3CDC’s vice president of development. “We’re thrilled to be reactivating these vacant buildings that are surrounded by incredible amenities like The Transept, Queen City Radio, Cincinnati Shakespeare Company and Washington Park.” MORE It’s always good to see more and more of these buildings renovated. Not a huge project in terms of some of the other things going on but a large collection of buildings being brought back to life.
December 17, 20222 yr 29 minutes ago, IAGuy39 said: It’s always good to see more and more of these buildings renovated. Not a huge project in terms of some of the other things going on but a large collection of buildings being brought back to life. And the quality of these buildings! Its what we don't get with the new builds. They tend to be either too large scale while not being tall enough, or have terrible false breaks in their facade to mimic a multiple parcel collection of structures.
December 21, 20222 yr A few projects throughout OTR/Pendleton were recently awarded Historic Tax Credits. Here's the press release: https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/OHIOGOVERNOR/2022/12/20/file_attachments/2359968/OHPTCP SW Region.pdf 56 E. McMicken – Front (Cincinnati) Total Project Cost: $1,506,593 Total Tax Credit: $247,000 Address: 56 E. McMicken Ave. This four-story, brick Italianate building was constructed in 1879 in Cincinnati’s Over-the-Rhine neighborhood. Originally utilized as a tailor shop, with residential units on the upper floors, the upper floors have fallen into disrepair in recent years. Historic preservation efforts will maintain the building’s Italianate features and add a bar on the first floor with and eight residential units on the upper floors. 56 E. McMicken – Rear (Cincinnati) Total Project Cost: $1,152,238 Total Tax Credit: $226,000 Address: 56 E. McMicken Ave. Originally constructed around 1865, this building is tucked away behind other neighboring buildings. Historically a multi-family residential building, the building will be rehabilitated to again house residents in Cincinnati’s Over-the-Rhine neighborhood. The property has been vacant and neglected for decades, destroying much of the historic fabric. The project will preserve what remains and create five one- and two- bedroom residential units in the historic structure. 521 Dandridge Street (Cincinnati) Total Project Cost: $950,606 Total Tax Credit: $186,500 Address: 521 Dandridge St. Located in the Pendletone/Over-the-Rhine neighborhood in Cincinnati, this building currently houses four residentials units and will be preserved as its historic use. Historic rehabilitation will preserve and maintain quality, affordable housing in the area and make critical repairs and updates to the building. Remaining historical features will be preserved on the interior and exterior of the building. 1609 Pleasant Street (Cincinnati) Total Project Cost: $712,955 Total Tax Credit: $139,700 Address: 1609 Pleasant St. 1609 Pleasant St., a staple of the Over-the-Rhine Historic District within Cincinnati, is a brick building built in the 1800's. Originally a residential building, the recent resurgence of the neighborhood has created significant demand for housing. The rehabilitation process is part of an 18-building project to create apartment complexes and will maintain existing stairways, brick masonry, and tile. 2155 Loth Street (Cincinnati) Total Project Cost: $1,188,258 Total Tax Credit: $233,000 Address: 2155 Loth St. Built in the late 1800s, 2155 Loth St. originally provided the Cincinnati’s historic Over-theRhine neighborhood with affordable multi-tenant housing. Working to provide safe, affordable housing to the area as demand rises, the historic brick building will once again honor the neighborhood's unique character while providing five housing units.
December 22, 20222 yr Interesting about 2155 Loth. I didn't realize it was in a historic district. The building is also currently occupied, so I imagine this will involve at least temporary displacement for the current residents
December 28, 20222 yr Judge dismissed the Liberty/Elm OTR Adopt appeal because, as I mentioned previously, cases in Ohio become moot one construction begins.
December 29, 20222 yr This thing at the Robert A's curve has been renovated into a single one-bedroom apartment...it's listed for $1,600: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2013-Vine-St-Cincinnati-OH-45202/2060315047_zpid/?utm_source=MarketUpdate&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=emo_a-zrm_marketupdate&utm_content=Comps
December 31, 20222 yr Very glad to see this finally break ground... At this point I'm honestly surprised that this project managed to survive the years of frivolous litigation against it; I guess I just don't understand why some people were mounting a ridiculous crusade against the construction of this substantial housing development (when housing is so desperately needed) on what is otherwise an empty lot. Props to the developer that purchased and seemingly saved it.
January 3, 20232 yr Two historic OTR buildings on McMicken Avenue land state tax credits Two buildings located on Over-the-Rhine’s McMicken Avenue have received Ohio Historic Preservation Tax Credits, which will usher in rehabilitated residential units and a new bar to the northeast edge of the neighborhood. The buildings are both located at 56 E. McMicken Ave., with one facing the street and the other tucked behind nearby buildings. Both were designed at least in part for housing and will be redeveloped following the securing of tax credits. The front-facing building at 56 E. McMicken Ave. landed $247,000 in state historic tax credits, the amount requested. The building at the rear of 56 E. McMicken Ave. received $226,000 in tax credits, which also was the requested amount. The combined project is expected to be an investment of more than $2.6 million. More below: https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2023/01/03/mcmicken-avenue-historic-tax-credit-bar-apartments.html "You don't just walk into a bar and mix it up by calling a girl fat" - buildingcincinnati speaking about new forumers
January 9, 20232 yr Thanks for posting! I wonder how quickly Liberty and Elm will be up? Looks like 305 units, 210 garage units on Liberty and Elm.
January 10, 20232 yr Author Liberty & Elm development proceeds as court case tossed By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Jan 10, 2023 Updated Jan 10, 2023, 3:05pm EST Dirt is flying at the long-awaited mixed-use development at Liberty and Elm streets near Findlay Market in Over-the-Rhine, after a court case attempting to block the $80 million project was tossed at the end of 2022. The Hamilton County Appellate Court dismissed the case Dec. 21 in an order signed by Judge Marilyn Zayas. The project in the northwest corner of Liberty and Elm streets, which also includes the demolished former Boys and Girls Club site, had been ensnared in a court battle over approvals given to it by city regulators for more than a year. MORE
January 10, 20232 yr Just now, The_Cincinnati_Kid said: Liberty & Elm development proceeds as court case tossed By Chris Wetterich – Staff reporter and columnist, Cincinnati Business Courier Jan 10, 2023 Updated Jan 10, 2023, 3:05pm EST Dirt is flying at the long-awaited mixed-use development at Liberty and Elm streets near Findlay Market in Over-the-Rhine, after a court case attempting to block the $80 million project was tossed at the end of 2022. The Hamilton County Appellate Court dismissed the case Dec. 21 in an order signed by Judge Marilyn Zayas. The project in the northwest corner of Liberty and Elm streets, which also includes the demolished former Boys and Girls Club site, had been ensnared in a court battle over approvals given to it by city regulators for more than a year. MORE good to see this. I thought last year the project was going to get cancelled.
January 11, 20232 yr What was the biggest issue that the people who wanted to stop this project did not like about it? What is their goal? Do they not like infill or want to preserve the old buildings? It seems like there are a few obnoxious parties in the area that want to sue over every potential development in OTR even if it is on an empty parking lot.
January 11, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Brutus_buckeye said: What was the biggest issue that the people who wanted to stop this project did not like about it? What is their goal? Do they not like infill or want to preserve the old buildings? It seems like there are a few obnoxious parties in the area that want to sue over every potential development in OTR even if it is on an empty parking lot. The biggest things were height (the current rendering is actually shorter than the original proposal), that it didn’t fit in with the surrounding buildings and the lack of affordable housing.
January 11, 20232 yr Anyone know of what’s going on with the Foto Focus development at the northwest corner of Liberty and Sycamore? Nothing has started yet and is supposed to be opening in 2024.
January 11, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Anyone know of what’s going on with the Foto Focus development at the northwest corner of Liberty and Sycamore? Nothing has started yet and is supposed to be opening in 2024. This article from Dec 2022 mentioned that "Goeke plans to remain involved as an adviser on the new building, set to be completed by spring 2025." https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/12/12/fotofocus-executive-director-change.html
January 11, 20232 yr 48 minutes ago, Ucgrad2015 said: The biggest things were height (the current rendering is actually shorter than the original proposal), that it didn’t fit in with the surrounding buildings and the lack of affordable housing. Yes, but those issues were resolved to the city's satisfaction yet there were continued complaints by local citizens. What was the issue keeping it in court (since the city did not have an issue at that point)
January 11, 20232 yr On 1/9/2023 at 12:35 PM, IAGuy39 said: Thanks for posting! I wonder how quickly Liberty and Elm will be up? Looks like 305 units, 210 garage units on Liberty and Elm. Probably 22 months.
January 11, 20232 yr 47 minutes ago, Brutus_buckeye said: Yes, but those issues were resolved to the city's satisfaction yet there were continued complaints by local citizens. What was the issue keeping it in court (since the city did not have an issue at that point) The citizens were arguing that the city didn't follow the correct procedures regarding the historic conservation board and the planning commission.
January 11, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Anyone know of what’s going on with the Foto Focus development at the northwest corner of Liberty and Sycamore? Nothing has started yet and is supposed to be opening in 2024. I spoke to Tom Schiff a while ago and asked him when things would start. He basically said "when we get the money." Of course, it will end up coming from him I suspect, but they are probably fund raising within the photo community.
January 11, 20232 yr 33 minutes ago, DEPACincy said: The citizens were arguing that the city didn't follow the correct procedures regarding the historic conservation board and the planning commission. We shouldnt say citizens, should just be "Danny Klinger and Margy Waller" no two people make a bigger fuss in this town then these two. Danny is getting sloppy too, hes going to get caught with his brazen tactics soon enough...
January 11, 20232 yr 30 minutes ago, 1400 Sycamore said: I spoke to Tom Schiff a while ago and asked him when things would start. He basically said "when we get the money." Of course, it will end up coming from him I suspect, but they are probably fund raising within the photo community. Funny coincidence. Work started today for the first time since the demolition occurred.
January 12, 20232 yr 22 hours ago, savadams13 said: We shouldnt say citizens, should just be "Danny Klinger and Margy Waller" no two people make a bigger fuss in this town then these two. Danny is getting sloppy too, hes going to get caught with his brazen tactics soon enough... Get caught? Is he doing illegal stuff?!
January 13, 20232 yr Any updates on this project? https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/news/2022/03/24/central-and-vine-project.html
January 13, 20232 yr I'm just getting around to listening to the interview with Steve Leeper on the Business Courier's podcast from November. It's really worth a listen for anyone who isn't familiar with the origins of 3CDC, and there is a lot of great information about their future plans along Vine Street to better connect the CBD with OTR.
January 17, 20232 yr https://youtu.be/WZwpX7RdVh8 Its on!! Edited January 17, 20232 yr by 1400 Sycamore
January 17, 20232 yr Fotofocus that is. Edited January 17, 20232 yr by 1400 Sycamore premature posting
February 4, 20232 yr Did some walking around Northern OTR today and took a couple photos. 1st: Part of Wilkommen 2. 4 story infill just North of the new parking garage. 2nd: Liberty and Elm. Anyone know why they are digging down that deep? 3rd: also part of Wilkommen 2. 3 story infill just north of Alabama Que. In other developments the FC garage is on the third floor. Assuming it’s taking forever since it’s winter. Cohatch at Findlay market doesn’t really seem to be making any progress. The infill just south of the FC garage (4 floor senior housing) has not started yet nor has the infill across from the Dunlop street cafe (4 floor housing for homeless I believe). The vacant building between Rhinegeist and the Dunlop cafe has started redevelopment. Edited February 4, 20232 yr by Ucgrad2015
February 4, 20232 yr 3 hours ago, Ucgrad2015 said: Did some walking around Northern OTR today and took a couple photos. 1st: Part of Wilkommen 2. 4 story infill just North of the new parking garage. 2nd: Liberty and Elm. Anyone know why they are digging down that deep? 3rd: also part of Wilkommen 2. 3 story infill just north of Alabama Que. In other developments the FC garage is on the third floor. Assuming it’s taking forever since it’s winter. Cohatch at Findlay market doesn’t really seem to be making any progress. The infill just south of the FC garage (4 floor senior housing) has not started yet nor has the infill across from the Dunlop street cafe (4 floor housing for homeless I believe). The vacant building between Rhinegeist and the Dunlop cafe has started redevelopment. Everything is made out of plain cheap wood. I wonder how long these will stay nice. I ran by those today as well. Glad to see progress.
February 7, 20232 yr Author Cohatch releases altered designs for flagship OTR coworking space By Abby Miller – Reporter, Cincinnati Business Courier Feb 7, 2023 A coworking company is moving ahead with plans to open its flagship location in Over-the-Rhine later this year, but with a key difference from its original plans for the space. Cohatch will take over the entire 20,000-square-foot space in the Leader Building at 130 W. Elder St. after signing a long-term lease, and the location will be anchored by 1,200 square feet of event space. A private bar will be attached. Flip through the renderings above for a sneak preview. “This is what we’re most excited about,” Megan Dotzauer, Cohatch Cincinnati market leader, told the Business Courier. MORE
February 8, 20232 yr 20 hours ago, The_Cincinnati_Kid said: coworking It's good work if you can get it.
February 8, 20232 yr yes that is gross... a subtle ACCENT of their green would have gone a long way. also... i was walking with my 6 year old son through downtown pre-covid and we passed the coworking place down on fourth. he asked me "what is COW ORKING?" i have never looked at that word the same. Edited February 8, 20232 yr by jack.c.amos misspelled
February 13, 20232 yr I guess I missed that the Clyffside / Felsenbrau would be housing Moerlein, Hudy and Little Kings but it's up on the signage out front and it looks like they already have the brewing equipment installed. Makes me wonder what they are going to do with the Jackson brewery building if they are putting the 'big' brands in this location.
February 13, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, ucgrady said: I guess I missed that the Clyffside / Felsenbrau would be housing Moerlein, Hudy and Little Kings but it's up on the signage out front and it looks like they already have the brewing equipment installed. Makes me wonder what they are going to do with the Jackson brewery building if they are putting the 'big' brands in this location. Currently bottling Little Kings brewed offsite. Brewery is hoping to be in production in the next couple months. Taproom/restaurant/event space in Sohn brewhouse side hoping to open Spring 2024. Shameless plug, Brewery District is doing a tour of the Sohn/Clyffside brewhouse (1887 portion) for Bockfest, last chance to see it before it gets rehabbed and split up again. All the old rooms/hallways/partitions have been cleared out so you can see the space as it was when it was built. http://www.bockfest.com/historic-tours.html
February 14, 20232 yr https://www.fox19.com/2023/02/13/cincy-shirts-outgrows-closes-otr-location-with-plans-expand/ Cincy shirts closing OTR location. Hopefully they will find another space in OTR (been to the one in Hyde Park and the OTR location was always busier). Wondering why they would close this one without getting another space first but am assuming their lease is getting ready to expire and they don’t want to renew.
February 14, 20232 yr There’s lot of retail square footage available in the ground floor of Industry…
February 14, 20232 yr 5 hours ago, taestell said: There’s lot of retail square footage available in the ground floor of Industry… I wonder if this will be the location of OTR's first Starbucks...or Skyline?
February 14, 20232 yr There are plenty of larger retail spaces available in OTR at the moment, both above and below Liberty. I wouldn't be surprised if Cincy Shirts relocates to Vine Street (where there is more retail) or somewhere near Findlay Market.
February 14, 20232 yr I couldn't find the original post with the hilariously bad project render, but i take back my laughing at it. This place is amazing. and on a lot that would have otherwise been left empty. At Main & Peete. Most people would never second guess that it wasn't a rehab of an original building.
February 14, 20232 yr Well they didn't put any windows in the west-facing wall. Maybe they plan to hang a few AC units off it to make it look like the authentic rehab to the south:
February 14, 20232 yr 31 minutes ago, SleepyLeroy said: I couldn't find the original post with the hilariously bad project render, but i take back my laughing at it. This place is amazing. and on a lot that would have otherwise been left empty. At Main & Peete. Most people would never second guess that it wasn't a rehab of an original building. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/buildings/historic-conservation-board-archived-cases/november-9-2020-staff-report-and-attachments/ Renders on page 95
February 14, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Well they didn't put any windows in the west-facing wall. Maybe they plan to hang a few AC units off it to make it look like the authentic rehab to the south: Yea, that's weird. But at least it is all real brick for once and blends into the surrounding background. It could have been, and i was expecting, much much worse.
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